If you rebuild a battery pack, and the battery gauge does not work properly or at all, with no power output, then you can usually correct the problem by disconnecting the NEG and/or POS tabbing for at least 1 minute. That usually corrects the issue. Thanks for watching!
@ProjectFarm Жыл бұрын
Great how to video! I've got several battery packs that need repaired. Thanks again!
@electronicsNmore Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed the video! Looking forward to your next video
@PaulTheadra Жыл бұрын
I watched this all the way through because I've seen others fail horribly trying to do this. A calm hand and a plan gets the job done 👍
@shawnd567 Жыл бұрын
Id been repairing these for years. Usually 1 or 2 cells will go out. Ive had good luck with capacity testing the others and replacing the bad cell with a like capacity. Great video!
@andyroid5028 Жыл бұрын
*_Any recommendation(s) on a test tool for these 18650 (and other sizes) cells?_*
@kna60 Жыл бұрын
@@andyroid5028 Rolls Royce tester-charger : SkyRC MC3000 / better price lower perfs : Opus BT-C3100 Internal resistance (impedance) tester : YR1030, to compare with values on cells manufacturer's datasheets.
@JayWye523 ай бұрын
then you have a few cells with 100s of charge cycles,and fresh new cells with few charge cycles. better to just replace them all at the same time,save the old,good cells for other uses.
@mattdorsey224411 ай бұрын
I'll bet you developed your interests and began asking questions at a very young age. Thanks for sharing your various discoveries.
@Chaos_God_of_FateАй бұрын
Great Tutorial! One thing I would recommend before going and replacing the cells, and is a free fix if you have what you need: first, for context the charger won't charge a battery that is totally dead or below a certain Voltage (forgot exactly how low: 2-5v I think), so the battery will appear to be dead but the cells might be completely fine and just needs to be manually charged to get over that minimum hump for the regular charger to do its thing. There are videos showing you how you can take the battery apart in a similar way, minus the pulling the tabs/bottom off/replacing the batteries at all (you can leave the bottom on & no need for cutting/soldering/spot welding). With a volt-meter and an 18v wall charger you connect to the positive/negative correctly and use the volt-meter to charge for 10 seconds or so (adjust as needed)/disconnect/check voltage and repeat until you get to around 6v, then put it back together and the regular charger should handle the rest if the cells are still good. If you have everything you need this fix is free- try it before replacing the cells, they still might be just fine! I personally used an old 18v laptop charger, snipped the end that would normally plug into the laptop, checked which was positive/negative, labeled them and worked in silence, distraction free while being very careful, there are better ways to do it but I was working with what I had laying around. In this way I've saved 2 of our batteries once, but the second time I could only save one of them which has been good for 2-3 Years now- that's 3/4 times that this fix did the job. As I mentioned in the first sentence, there are many videos showing how to do this here on YT, a simple search should show you what I'm saying in more detail- check those before trying based on just this comment! To sum that all up simply: manually charge the batteries to get it past the minimum voltage cut-off for the charger (the charger will not charge batteries below a certain voltage or are completely dead). Once you get the batteries up to 6v or more you can put everything back together and the regular charger should pick back up and charge the batteries back to full capacity like they normally do. Hope this helps someone, but check those tutorials first! Don't just read this comment and try it!
@100vg10 ай бұрын
I just referred this video to a KZbinr in response to his comment. He left his electric mower battery in for 7 months and now it won't charge. The cells may have discharged so low that forcing a charge, like as done in the video he asked his question in, could make it explode. Maybe you'll get another subscriber.
@karljay74733 ай бұрын
If a battery goes too low, it can go into sleep mode. Some chargers will take a battery out of sleep mode. You can also charge the batteries one by one with a regular charger. I did this with a 25 battery pack that went low. I used tiny magnets from Harbor Freight to connect a 1a charger to each cell. As long as I didn't allow the batteries to get too low, it worked fine... Reduced overall amp hours, but still worked. It's worth looking into. This was a 25 battery pack and the cost of replacing the batteries would have been about $100.00. Also, some battery packs go out of balance, finding the low one and replacing it can save the pack.
@trusttech9942 Жыл бұрын
That little spot welder is very cool.
@jdoucetteguitar6 ай бұрын
so cool
@George-pg2ii3 ай бұрын
Great video! Very clear, complete, and easy to understand.
@thecalif291423 күн бұрын
Nice video, excellent explanation. Thank you for that. BTW I never opened a Ryobi battery pack and I'm stunned about how high the build and design quality of these are. There are some more fancy brands with higher reputation on the market not having this outstanding design and build quality, and are not even close service-friendly. I own a couple of Ryobi power tools and battery packs, some of which come to their natural end of life now. So I'll get my stuff together and refurbish these.
@brentjohnson66543 ай бұрын
I rebuild Ryobi, Dewalt, and Makita batteries for tools. Good video.
@AaronDwyer6 ай бұрын
Superb video. To the point and yet thorough.
@andyroid5028 Жыл бұрын
*_This is great information. Thanks brother!_*
@jdoucetteguitar6 ай бұрын
Thanks for this video. i feel confident that i can do this correctly now. and like others have said...that spot welder is super cool.
@konradmann5753 Жыл бұрын
Nicely presented. What necessitates shorting those those two points to reset the battery pack? Wouldn't replacing the original cells already do that? How did you discover the need to do that? I hope my questions are not too confusing. Regards and kudos to making the Earth a greener place by reducing throw away items and helping to save money.
@electronicsNmore Жыл бұрын
When the battery voltage drops, or if the cells are removed, you usually need to reset the circuit. Thanks for watching
@rickyemmirt4120 Жыл бұрын
Great video to start off with. I am doing a ryobi but not the hp model and it doesn't have the same reset. I have the flash and can't reaet
@pollywollydo Жыл бұрын
I’ve used old Dyson cells not large capacity but quality with a good draw capability . Ps Dyson boards give out long before their cells. 🏴🇺🇸🏴
@deslomeslager Жыл бұрын
I opened up a Dyson battery pack and tried to replace the cells, however the cells did not want to fit in the same space theirs were. Too tight. Should I try and remove the plastic jacket from the battery to get just that tiny bit more of space to wiggle in the batteries? (I expect the board is just fine, the motor runs a few seconds on the current batteries, and if I add an external power source I can let it run very long as the power is not drawn from the batteries anymore). I really like the Dyson cleaner and want to fox it, they are so robust!
@pollywollydo Жыл бұрын
@@deslomeslager some Dyson are 2170 some are 18650 . The from memory, second and third one in are “ glued “ in because of the temp sensor sitting in a v shaped recess ( below the board) potted in, some care and effort is needed to remove them , but can be done . In my opinion Dyson battery’s are only good for cells once they won’t work in Dyson 🥴
@deslomeslager Жыл бұрын
@@pollywollydo Thanks for telling me. As said, I managed to get them out just fine (18650), but the new ones I have got seem to be a very tiny bit thicker though they are original 18650 Samsungs. But I do can try and use a file to take away some of the plastic, and make the batteries fit.
@pollywollydo Жыл бұрын
@@deslomeslager removing the cells that are temp’ monitored will destroy the sensor which has 2 wires back into the board so if either of those are shot I wouldn’t bother otherwise give it a go 🌝🏴🇺🇸🏴
@dennisqwertyuiop Жыл бұрын
great video,,i have lots of ryobi tools
@electronicsNmore Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@murraymadness4674Ай бұрын
Good video as usual. What C rating or amp draw should the replacement cells have? Some 20a cells are like $3, so $15 for cells. Amazon sells 2ah knockoff batteries for the same cost, no tinkering. I have about 5 dead ryobi batteries, I hate to throw them out, but I bought the cheap knockoffs, and they have worked well now, much less than advertised capacity though.
@DeJaCoCom2 ай бұрын
interesting and informative video but I probably would just buy a new battery pack mainly because I wouldn't have the time to do this :)
@WideVisionMetalFab Жыл бұрын
Great video!
@electronicsNmore Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@audiophileman7047 Жыл бұрын
Interesting video, I always thought these batteries were sealed and not really serviceable. It just goes to show that if there's a will, there's a way. 👍👍👍 Someone would have to figure out how much work and investment they want to put into repairing these batteries if they're in good enough shape to repair. I like the spot welder. Do you use the spot welder for other things?
@electronicsNmore Жыл бұрын
Spot welder is only used for creating battery packs. Thanks for watching!
@audiophileman7047 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for answering my question, and I really enjoy your channel. @@electronicsNmore
@100vg Жыл бұрын
That *_is_* a very nice battery pack design. The individual cell holders makes replacing cells much easier. Your battery spot welder link has a few selections. Which one do you use and do you recommend that one or another one, please? I've wanted a battery spot welder for a while. And do you have a link for the metal tabbing? I don't see it listed in the Description area. I see 0.1mm x 8.0mm in the video, but no other info. I think I'd spot weld a T instead of folding over, but that's me. It will use less tabbing. Another great one, Scott. Thanks
@electronicsNmore Жыл бұрын
Look for the one that you saw in the video, it's in black on that page. I use the highest setting which is number four. You can also find the tabbing on that web page link.
@100vg Жыл бұрын
@@electronicsNmore Thanks, Scott. I noticed the metal tabbing on the page and that yours comes with some. That should be plenty for the little I'll need it.
@Alobster16 ай бұрын
Does the order of resoldering the balancing wires matter? The pack doesn't seem to be working after replacing the cells. I have replaced cells in other brands without having any issues. I wonder if ryobi has some kind of minimum voltage protection.
@DavidRexGlenn Жыл бұрын
Thanks
@adamfred22 күн бұрын
Is it worth it to balance the batteries before wiring up?
@BobSmith-w4m11 ай бұрын
I’m curious do you know how to produce terra hertz frequency’s ??
@gavin98735 ай бұрын
Can anyone tell me what nickel strip is suitable for a job like this need to replace the cells on the same battery thanks
@tarstarkusz Жыл бұрын
0:50 Before replacing the cells, especially if it's not old, you should charge and discharge them individually, then recharge them all back to full. Then put it in the tool and run it for a while, then put it back on the charger till full. Do this 3 times. Also, a lot of modern battery packs cannot be refurbished. They have custom chips on the board and will not function if the batteries are changed.
@electronicsNmore Жыл бұрын
There's a way around those battery packs. All you have to do is apply voltage using a power supply unit to the battery positive and negative terminals before removing the cells. Then charge the new cells to match closely to the voltage of the PSU and install them. Once the new cells are installed, you remove the power supply and there should not be any issue with the battery pack.
@ornvik481Ай бұрын
I did this on an 18V Ryobi battery that doesn't have any battery gauge. Everything seemed good and I charged it up to the same voltage as my original battery. But my machine doesn't start for some reason. The light goes slightly on but no rpm at all. Any suggestions?
@ornvik481Ай бұрын
I found what was wrong. The output voltage was 19.8V but when I checked the cells one by one, there was one (brand new) with 2.7V and all the others were correct and the same. Changed the faulty one and now it works good. 😊
@andyroid5028 Жыл бұрын
*_It's really annoying to know Ryobi (and other brands) could easily make these cells easier to access/swap but I understand the reason it's designed this way... but it doesnt mean I have to like the design. 😮😊👍🏼_*
@tarstarkusz Жыл бұрын
They don't want anyone doing this operation. There are incredibly stupid people who will do incredibly stupid things and then blame and sue the company.
@emmettturner9452 Жыл бұрын
I was hoping you’d measure the old cells so we could see if it’s only a portion of them that went bad.
@electronicsNmore Жыл бұрын
It's not worth changing only a couple of cells, so I didn't bother. Usually one or two are faulty.
@emmettturner9452 Жыл бұрын
@@electronicsNmore Yeah, but it’s good to know the usual failure mode and how many might be good cells to use in other things, like flashlights. Thanks!
@trench01 Жыл бұрын
That must have taken you at lest an hour for everything. Any thoughts on how to put a 18v ac adaptor instead of batteries? since I tried it on a dyson and didnt work. LOL
@electronicsNmore Жыл бұрын
Only about 45 minutes
@maxxmich10 ай бұрын
u need to showe the new battery packs..they r different they ur 5 to 10 yr old pack. also Ryobi uses high quality cells too
@electronicsNmore10 ай бұрын
My battery pack was only 3 years old.
@willthecat3861 Жыл бұрын
Ya... requiring a spot welder is where it fell apart for me. (Whose gonna buy all that stuff to rebuild one battery pack?) I don't have 10 cordless power tools that need the packs rebuilt.
@electronicsNmore Жыл бұрын
The spot welders aren't that much money if you plan on rebuilding your battery packs well into the future
@lexusgor3823 Жыл бұрын
@@electronicsNmorewhat brand is this spot welder?
@trusttech9942 Жыл бұрын
Tamper proof fasteners make me laugh. Tamper resistant would be a mildly better description or easy to remove if you have even the crap Iest of driver sets.
@shawnd567 Жыл бұрын
Tamper*
@trusttech9942 Жыл бұрын
@@shawnd567 that’s the problem with dictation on the phone. I certainly know it’s tamper, but didn’t realize the phone took it as temper. 🤷
@gregb1714 Жыл бұрын
I hope you realize that there are different types of 18650 batteries, you can not only go by the current capacity! Power tools use high discharge current type batteries. Standard discharge batteries are used for lower current devices like laptops and typically have larger capacities. Standard batteries should not be used in power tools because the higher currents will shorten their service life.
@electronicsNmore Жыл бұрын
Of course I realize
@user-wp6lh7rp2v3 ай бұрын
Drastically shorten.,may overheat causing a 'BAD' situation... Thank You
@michaelhuang24772 ай бұрын
Good point. I get my old battery packs from the home Depot recycling box, take it apart and look for good cells in the pack
@gregs3580Ай бұрын
Please, the tabbing you are using is woefully inadequate to carry the 30 A required. At the very least double them up if you cannot use a nickel copper sandwich. And it is best to leave the 0 and 20 volt terminals for last.
@terryl7874 Жыл бұрын
Really, most people don’t have time or tools to complete the battery pack. Just buy another OEM battery pack.
@Mesoindustrious10 ай бұрын
If you don’t have anything nice to say…
@michaelhuang24772 ай бұрын
I normally replace my car when it runs out of gas. Why bother