Here's a great example of what a false sole looks like in a horse's hoof. I talk about how to recognize it and how to solve it. If you want to know more about horse hooves and trimming I have an online course here: myhorsecoach.com/courses/horse-hoof-trimming-101/
@spit-n-shoot35112 жыл бұрын
I have a horse given to me and it hadn't had a trim in over two years . Lots of things are wrong as you would think . The biggest thing so far is the rear hoof soles are as hard as the walls . I can barely scratch them with a knife . Do you know what this is and how to fix it .
@micheletravers1723 Жыл бұрын
Definately founder i have the xrays almost lost him i work on his hooves every 2 weeks to try to keep him pain free but the sole builds like crazy judging from frog tip
@StableHorseTraining Жыл бұрын
Sorry Michele, you haven't defined what you think is founder (and commented on a completely different comment) and without pictures there is no concrete advice I can give. If you want help then you have to help the helper as much as you possibly can.
@Conny2262 жыл бұрын
Good morning to everyone. Thank you for being so committed with bringing out information every day 👍🏻 I am looking forward for your videos every day .Thank you.
@StableHorseTraining2 жыл бұрын
Good morning!
@julianpavlock69432 жыл бұрын
@@StableHorseTraining saying afternoon from Texas 😉
@StableHorseTraining2 жыл бұрын
afternoon!
@believeandseeranch23 күн бұрын
Just going through this now. This was so helpful thank you.
@StableHorseTraining23 күн бұрын
You’re welcome
@believeandseeranch23 күн бұрын
@@StableHorseTraining I just read the description on your video about the ride at Golden Ears. It looks like we’re practically neighbors.🙃.
@mingram0085 ай бұрын
Once again, excellent information! A depth I haven’t seen anywhere else! Bought into your trimming program and excited to be diving in N thanks!
@StableHorseTraining4 ай бұрын
Thank you, I'm glad this was useful to you, and thanks for picking up the course! I'm positive it will help a lot.
@AL-lz1hb2 жыл бұрын
Fascinating stuff. Looks so much better after.
@KK-hq8jd2 жыл бұрын
I watched a short if a ferryier just loping off a Huge chunk, off a miniature horse, it just did Not seem right. However i must admit, without this upload, I (can watch them walk & understand its off, but really) have no idea, how to help or anything really until today. Thanks Graeme.
@StableHorseTraining2 жыл бұрын
Plenty of times it's the wrong thing to do, the special cases we must examine and get just right because taking off any more sole than needed hurts a horse as much as it hurts us. Indiscriminate removal of sole is only too common and I expect your instinct of what you watched was correct.
@KK-hq8jd2 жыл бұрын
@@StableHorseTraining many thanks
@deanhoughton14912 жыл бұрын
This is a great video. i've just started trimming my horses feet and this is an issue i believe I'm dealing with. Part confidence issue, not wanting to create more damage to the foot. These videos are confidence builders.
@StableHorseTraining2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I have a whole course on the subject if you're interested where I trimmed three very different horses to show different problems and patterns, all starting from the basics. myhorsecoach.com/courses/horse-hoof-trimming-101/
@donnasimonds430011 ай бұрын
Thank you for the information!!
@StableHorseTraining10 ай бұрын
You're welcome!
@nikk-named2 жыл бұрын
Fascinating. I've been watching a bunch of videos about cow hoff-trimming a while ago. It's interesting how that differs from horses.
@jules82992 жыл бұрын
I found those videos too while searching for information on hoof care for horses. Very interesting topic. Who knew that cows had so many hoof issues.
@martineinfrance2 жыл бұрын
Although when cleaning hooves I sometimes noticed strange things, I didn't know what it was. Thank you Graeme 👍 very interesting..
@gailreske71112 жыл бұрын
This was something I had no idea of. I enjoyed being informed. Very important to know these things.
@marleneleroux Жыл бұрын
Great video my mare had squashed into her sole for years traditional farriers never address
@StableHorseTraining Жыл бұрын
Thanks! I hope it helped
@SFD-Horses2 жыл бұрын
I’m going to have to start doing my own feet, so I’m watching a lot more of your foot videos.
@StableHorseTraining2 жыл бұрын
Well, as a former member you still get 50% off my trimming course too :)
@SFD-Horses2 жыл бұрын
Oh? Really? I sent a message via the academy site.
@StableHorseTraining2 жыл бұрын
@@SFD-Horses absolutely, I responded. Please let me know if you have any questions along the way and I'll be happy to help :)
@Trapezius8oblique10 ай бұрын
Great video thanks. I appreciate the effort you put into your videos. Question: Do you think Separatation of the hoof wall is somewhat exasperated by the filing the hoof wall in the direction of, inside to the outside as is done by almost every one who trims hooves ? My explanation is, if we as humans were to file our nails frequently, as we do with hooves, our nails would weaken eventually and slowly separate from our nail bed too. So if we were to file the hoof wall from outside to the inside all the way around would it slow down the separation?
@StableHorseTraining10 ай бұрын
You make a good point, but not in my experience has that happened. Separation happens primarily from late trims and bad form for trimming and the hoof itself. It takes a LOT to make separation happen, so if it's happening, how you file is the least of your issues for sure. It's leverage that causes separation.
@GodisTruth9142 жыл бұрын
I just learned alot about a horses hoove. Very interesting. 😁
@amycaine3860 Жыл бұрын
Amazing video
@missys2 жыл бұрын
That was fascinating to watch. The first picture of the false sole I was, ok I think I see it. The side shot...ahhhh there it is, whoa that's mess! Literally said it out loud and the kids stopped and looked at me.... Lol 🤭 what a transformation though. My question though is, with regular trims and hoof care, will that prevent the return of the false sole or it's continued growth?
@StableHorseTraining2 жыл бұрын
Yes, with proper trimming those feet cleaned up just fine and prevented further problems.
@missys2 жыл бұрын
@@StableHorseTraining thank you! Good to know.
@danflemmer19992 жыл бұрын
Good sound advice and diagnosis from my experience. Draft teams can have trouble with this, but the cause is often different from this particular case. For them it’s most often caused by the stresses induced by competitive pulling and the prodigious loading that occurs when the horse hits the end of the chain/s on the sled. Main reason my old employer didn’t think much of owners who only had a team in order to try to drag the sled. My rant for the day; sorry.
@gabrielace40238 ай бұрын
That was a clear explanation and good to follow. What builds that false sole? Overgrown bar or pounded old sole and how long does it takes to build like over the whole sole?
@StableHorseTraining8 ай бұрын
It takes a long time to build up that much, 6 months for sure, in this case, probably more. It's a combination of lack of proper trimming to bars and walls so that the sole just builds up and up. This is especially common in horses that live in too soft of conditions and don't get much movement.
@gabrielace40238 ай бұрын
Thank you for respond. 6Month?! What people do with horses…or not in that case.😢
@lkious5 ай бұрын
When would you reevaluate this hoof knowing there's more sole to exfoliate and subsequentially more hoof wall to trim? Weekly or monthly? Also, if I'm not seeing a whole lot of sole depth at the Apex of the frog, but I am seeing chalky powder at the sole/wall junction, how much should I try to exfoliate that if it does not turn into a nice distinguishable layer with a hoof pick? I am literally seeing the same thing with my horse, just not the sole depth at the Apex of the frog. So I'm a bit nervous to explore his feet aggressively
@StableHorseTraining5 ай бұрын
Weekly for sure. I worry more about the bars and connection to the heels and the heel buttress. The build up or lack thereof is an indicator of health. Otherwise I will bring the walls back and just allow the horse to wear down the old stuff on their own. Chalky is good, it’s the super hard stuff that is left for too long the compresses down to not exfoliate.
@jonvladimirtsev3002 Жыл бұрын
Thank you, super helpful 👍🙏
@StableHorseTraining Жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@wojewodskik22 жыл бұрын
Love this video! Very informative and I’d love to see more like it! :)
@StableHorseTraining2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I have lots of hoof videos for free here if you check the playlist kzbin.info/www/bejne/gGrYqZp_ht-bqbs you may like this one too: kzbin.info/www/bejne/oXjXlJSknKiSbrM and then I have a whole course on hoof trimming here: myhorsecoach.com/courses/horse-hoof-trimming-101/
@wojewodskik22 жыл бұрын
@@StableHorseTraining Awesome, thank you!
@paddlefoot56922 жыл бұрын
TY! Video👍👍 The dark speckling near the end of the frog and slightly to the side of the now cleaned/finished sole...is that bruising? What is that? And should a healthy sole always look free of any speckling marks?
@StableHorseTraining2 жыл бұрын
Yes and yes.
@joniatoms97982 жыл бұрын
False sole is like a scab? Thank you for this! I have neuralgia in my feet and plantar fasciitis. So I can relate to sore 👣🦶🏻 feet hooves
@StableHorseTraining2 жыл бұрын
Not really. The false sole isn't covering up a wound like a scab does. This is just build up due to a lack of proper trimming. It's more like a callous that just doesn't stop getting thicker.
@gailann2262 жыл бұрын
🌟🐴🌟 Excellent information !
@nikkireigns Жыл бұрын
I was recently given a pony with awful feet. He was kept in a pasture with beef cows and not trimmed for probably a few years. Plus he’s got a club foot with a blown abscess. Obviously they just sawed off the long, twisted toes. His heels are so long and his feet are so hard I can barely use a hoof knife. I’ve finally got the frogs sloughing off so I can see in there. His walls are grown down in a way that he’s only walking on them, not the whole foot. My question is, should I trim him as flat as possible right away or do as I have been and taking a 1/4 inch off at a time?
@StableHorseTraining Жыл бұрын
I would never trim a horse flat. Changes are best made a bit at a time unless you can take it down the same amount all around. It's hard giving advice over the internet as I can't see what you're saying and I don't know if you have any education about what you think you're looking at. Asking for medical advice on the internet is sketchy at best...
@nikkireigns Жыл бұрын
@@StableHorseTraining haha that is very true! I’ve been doing my full size horses for 15 years, just trying to figure out this pony. Thanks for the reply. Do you have a link to purchase the small hoof nippers through? In another video you used them on Lena
@StableHorseTraining Жыл бұрын
@nikkireigns there are a ton of "farriers" that have been working on their horses for 15 years or more and know next to nothing about the biology of a hoof or how to trim.. So, I make no assumptions anymore. As for the nippers, they're on amazon as bonsai nippers. Get the Japanese brand, not the Chinese ones.
@micheletravers1723 Жыл бұрын
Should u leave false sole on horse with founder for more protection of coffin bone?
@StableHorseTraining Жыл бұрын
You would have to define founder in your case as the word "founder" or "laminitis" is used far too often for what is simply a poor trimming regime and schedule. If the coffin bone needs protection (not sure how you determined that but I'll take your word for it) then I would suggest a correct trim and then boots and maybe pads inside. Sometimes leaving false sole in place will force the foot at a worse angle and perpetuate a problem. Without clear pictures I just can't give solid advice.
@danflemmer19992 жыл бұрын
Ouch!! Someone stepped VERY hard on a rock; while running pretty hard?? Definitely needs some help; you’re right on about that.
@Conny2262 жыл бұрын
What a difference looks so much better 🤮the horse will thank you 🙏
@harlcc2612 жыл бұрын
That was very interesting. Did the hoof repair well over time ?
@StableHorseTraining2 жыл бұрын
Yes, she did very well in my care and recovered fully.
@harlcc2612 жыл бұрын
@@StableHorseTraining Great job !!
@SuZryN2 жыл бұрын
How does this affect the horse? Does it hurt?
@StableHorseTraining2 жыл бұрын
Yes, it hurts and generally causes them to step "short", so they don't get a full length of stride going and instead step quickly or short. Like if somebody filled your shoes with wet sand, it doesn't move, gets hard in certain spots and hits pressure points.
@michellestrickland7613 Жыл бұрын
So is that what a false soul is then, a callous that developed to protect the soul for a while?
@StableHorseTraining Жыл бұрын
Not always, she didn't need this protection and in fact it was detrimental to her. On horses that have very thin soles we would leave the false sole in place for a while for sure.
@michellestrickland7613 Жыл бұрын
@@StableHorseTraining I see. Thank You.
@amberblyledge7859 Жыл бұрын
I have two horses that have an issue with the front part of the sole growing past where the hoof wall would touch the ground. One has shoes because she has sensitivity issues, the other may need shoes. He has bad bruising and blew a MASSIVE abscess out the top of his hood. Crack is like 3 inches. What could I do about that? Not the abscess, the sole growing so fast and the faster it grows, the more it hurts and the more it hurts, the faster it grows. After further research it just looks like the toe callus is just growing like crazy and gets bruised. I rarely mess with it, but today I trimmed it down so it was closer to the height of the hoof wall and my boy was so much more comfortable. I've seen it and studied it over many weeks of horse trims and I don't know what is happening. Most of the time I don't touch it and he just gets worse and worse.
@StableHorseTraining Жыл бұрын
I highly recommend watching this video kzbin.info/www/bejne/oXjXlJSknKiSbrM I believe I know what it a going wrong with your horse's feet but without pictures I'll never know for sure. Check out that video and let me know how you get on with it and if you're able to diagnose your horse's feet any better afterwards. Is your horse's feet the red, blue or green one?
@amberblyledge7859 Жыл бұрын
@Stable Horse Training So, the mare that has shoes has always been shaped like the red. She used to be SO MUCH WORSE, and our farrier has gotten her to be mostly hoof shaped. The gelding with the bruising had very green hooves before his laminitis episode back in November I think, but now he is slightly more shaped like the red. He also hits the ground more Toe-heel now. Old video is on this channel, Pistol with the Bag and Pistol With the Mounting Block. I can probably get new video soon if you wanna take a small look so I can communicate better with my farrier.
@StableHorseTraining Жыл бұрын
Here is what I imagine has been happening for your horses. First, the trim cycle is likely very long, something like 6 to 8 weeks between trims (this would be farrier recommended for sure). This is 4 times the length that they need to recover and is the exact reason they have the feet that they have. You likely will never have them trimmed every 2 to 3 weeks due to cost and it's impossible to shoe a horse that often as their hooves would just crumble underneath them from the sheer amount of holes they'd have poked in them. Shoes are very bad for rehabbing horses for that reason alone. Second, I imagine somebody convinced you that "laminitis" caused their feet to go bad. It's never the farrier's fault of course, they're doing the best ever. As such, the above problems wouldn't occur to you as it's been preceded by the "medical issue" and "there's nothing anybody can do" kind of thing. I'd be here to tell you that laminitis is a thing that definitely happens to a few horses out there but it's 99% trim that causes feet like that. There is very solid scientific proof that even fat unhealthy horses can have healthy feet if cared for appropriately. I have no idea how to convince you of any of this though. I'm just some guy on the internet that makes videos and your farrier will never respect anything I have to say about, primarily because I'd fire the guy for utter incompetence.... The rule here is, trim small, trim with high quality and precision and trim often. Instead of taking inches off, you take millimetres. This is very very common in the rehab world and a shoe will never fix the problem as you're just masking the issue and making it worse while compromising the structural integrity of the hoof wall and raising the hoof off the ground that it needs to touch for strength growth. Frogs grow long, they pinch in along with the heel bulbs and cause intense pain to the horse so they walk "toe-heel" because stepping on the back of the foot just hurts too much. All caused by improper trimming. Not diet. I can spout all the science you need on why classical hoof care doesn't work, but I have no idea if it'll be effective for your situation and circumstance. I'd recommend learning to trim yourself if you can. Even if it's just very small maintenance trims. Here's a video where I talk about that a bit: kzbin.info/www/bejne/ipSahn-ve5JjZ6M In the end, all of these choices are yours to make for the health of your horse, knowledge is power for sure and is the one thing that will help you talk to your farrier, although I don't know a single farrier that takes advice from owners... so I wish you the best with that one.
@netty42 жыл бұрын
Wow I did not realize how much there0 is to the hoof
@amyschubach19972 жыл бұрын
My TB is noticed recently has a false sole which is now a hard flap that I can hook under with a pick. She also apprear to have a crack in the corner of heal area? The other feet look a lot like this video with no bars a sole higher than edges and yes she’s starting pig to flare. I always thought she had flat hooves…. Anyway , My farrier comes in 2 weeks… should I have her come sooner due to flap and crack?
@StableHorseTraining2 жыл бұрын
Based on your description I would say you're probably not bringing in the right person if your horse's feet look like that now. Yes, somebody should attend them.
@staceylandfield50022 жыл бұрын
do you know if a horse can get laminitis from false sole?
@StableHorseTraining2 жыл бұрын
Horses do not get laminitis from false sole. What horses can get is flare, cracking and chipping by allowing the walls to grow too long due to not taking care of the sole effectively and in a timely manner.
@helenelittmann88752 жыл бұрын
That first hoof to me looks like the sole is growing callous because the white line is so stretched. Either laminitis or whire line disease or mechanical stress. I would suggests getting the walls and white line fixed over the course of several trims and let the sole exfoliate naturally after the hoof is rebalanced.
@StableHorseTraining2 жыл бұрын
None of that is true for this horse nor was that method effective (as was sort of done by the previous person) and I wouldn't recommend it. Thanks for adding to the conversation though, there are cases where what you say would be effective and I tried to explain the difference in this video but I guess I failed at that part. Either way, I obviously wouldn't show a failed case study as a model of what to do, so I would say it's safe for you to assume that this was a very effective method of resolving this horse's issues :)
@helenelittmann88752 жыл бұрын
@@StableHorseTraining do you have an after photo? I'm really curious as have spent time fixing stretched waterlines. How do the white lines look now?
@StableHorseTraining2 жыл бұрын
Hi Helene, I do have a set of pictures for this horse, in fact you actually know who she is :) A very special older girl of the Appaloosa variety. The white lines were never much of a problem other than a bit of a stretch on one of the quarters of the hind. Other than that, what you're seeing isn't what you think it is. It's simply massive overgrowth leftover from the last person that trimmed her (which was years ago now where she resided before here). This overgrowth caused massive bruising and leftover bar which was paining her daily. This clean out was truly needed and she stayed clean until the day she left here (no bruising I mean and the soles maintained that white-ish look). The walls were never an issue outside of lack of proper trimming. There is a problem in the hoof world where a particular person ran around telling people to not touch sole or bars and it made horses worse in the long run despite being healthy and good advice in the beginning. The problem was that he didn't provide quite enough literature to allow horse owners (self trimmers or observers of the trimmer) to objectively know when leaving it was detrimental.