How to reference a Guide Track in Studio One

[@Jay836836]

Gregor... You and Joe are such an asset to Presonus. I've just moved over to Studio One after 10+ years of Logic. I bought a Presonus Audio interface (for the Latency) and never expected to be changing DAW's but because of all the cool stuff you showed me that Studio One can do in your videos i had to!! Much respect...

[@anotherchrisperry]

I love that you can solo a muted track in Studio One. So handy for things like this.

[@DDWyss]

Gregor has blown my mind again! 🤯 I never knew you could do this in Studio One! I've always routed everything to a "pre-mix" bus so that I can have reference or guide tracks going straight to the stereo out without going through all the processing of my mix bus. I'm going to update my templates right away to include tracks for guide tracks with their own outputs!

[@dogmaticvox]

I always get good info from Gregor's tutorials. Thanks Gregor!

[@nillermatic18]

You make the best tutorials. I have learned so much from them.

[@1on1z3d]

Very nice and handy tip. The only disadvantage I can see with this method compared to 3rd party A/B reference plugins is that your reference track will be playing from wherever your cursor sits on the timeline which might or might not be convenient at all. For example you might be looking to compare your levels on the busiest part of your track to a reference's busiest part, or the part where the kick+bass are introduced in your track against the reference's kick+bass, etc which is something you can easily target, select and focus on pretty much all the 3rd party A/B plugins but not in this case showed here. Other than that spot on tip!

[@bachbeats2217]

You didn't put your room correction plugin on the reference track also, so there's gonna be a major difference in the mix sounds. I would love for a option to bypass the master bus like you did, but then send it to the Listen Bus!

[@jhughs3]

Brilliant! Now where's the "Buy Gregor a beer" button?

[@petersvan7880]

Thank you Gregor for yet another very well presented video. Stay well!

[@presonus]

Thanks so much Peter! Hope you're well. -GBY

[@tesorosdelarmario6226]

Studio one is hands down the best DAW out there. Everything just flows.

[@t.henricus9971]

Great tutorial Gregor and Presonus! Is there a way to assign a keyboard shortcut to toggle the solo button on/off for the guide track output?

[@thesuncollective1475]

Wonderful..wish you had done it a year ago..could have saved me $50!!..It's such an important thing Studio One should have it set up by default..Thanks!

[@Alchemetica]

Thanks, Gregor - as usual, great info on the ideal way of accomplishing a common task.

[@thoveler]

Fantastic video! Thank you!

[@Kkidzz]

Gregor : Die Beste .... Audio Koenig!!

[@robertnicholas3608]

Awesome, Gregor you rock bro!!

[@a.m.4816]

Thx a lot dear Gregor! Can you also pls show how to upload the reference track during a mastering process in the project?

[@absaloj]

This is so powerful yet again!

[@garrystubbs4891]

Another superb tutorial. Thank you Gregor !

[@presonus]

Glad you liked it! Thanks Garry! -GBY

[@DanielRivera-od8ys]

Very nicely explained and thought out video thanks for this!

[@bovictorious2380]

This is just the droid I was looking for-thank you, Gregor!

[@ch-vs3fw]

Thanks Gregor!! As always, very useful!!

[@michaelfarrell9541]

Great video Gregor, thanks! Does anyone know how to do referencing in project page, so you can master against a reference track?

[@raymondspagnuolo8222]

Very helpful. Thanks!

[@muziksculp2r]

Thank You Gregor for another very handy tip. 👏

[@abcdubeatmaking]

Happy new year to presonus team !!!! Stay safe

[@popchode112]

A perfect solution. I really needed this xD

[@MrrealestateChris]

Can you do tutorial on adding Vocal Cue Track?

[@RodolfoCruzMusic]

Woah, very useful. I wanted to do this a few weeks ago. Thanks!

[@presonus]

Glad it was helpful! -GBY

[@VuTCNguyenArtist]

Hi Greg, how do you have the "Mix FX" and "Post" sections to the right of the Main (master) bus? instead of on top of it? I couldn't figure if there's a setting for that? What's the trick?

[@VuTCNguyenArtist]

Nvm, I figured it out :) Thanks! clicking around helped! lol

[@gfrizman]

@@VuTCNguyenArtist Hi, I ask me same question but what is the answer please ?

[@gfrizman]

lol ok i find it sorry ! ^^

[@VuTCNguyenArtist]

@@gfrizman When you have the Mixer panel as (Small), the top FX will disappear from the top but there would be a little square icon appears by the fader, click that, and the Mix FX will appear tot he right of the fader instead of the top.

[@gfrizman]

@@VuTCNguyenArtist yessss

[@TheTomallon]

please add "Mix(master) scenes" in project section and split stereo panner in mixer (toggle between LR pan and Stereopanner) Thanks

[@ryanboyce3365]

Hey Gregor. Appreciate you bud you’re really the best!

[@presonus]

Thanks so much Ryan! Appreciate you. -GBY

[@herb-music]

Hi, thanks Gregor, but if I see it correctly there's one big issue. The reference track cannot have the same sonarworks correction like the mix. That´s an absolute No-Go when you really want to AB your mix and the reference. That´s why I still do it the old way like in version 4 and not use the listen bus. See my reply to Jheronimus Duko below...

[@onairrecordings]

When is the M chip studio one version coming out... really want this!!!!

[@presonus]

While I cannot give you an estimate yet, please be aware that Studio One is already running great on Apple Silicon thanks to Rosetta: www.pro-tools-expert.com/production-expert-1/apple-macbook-pro-m1-audio-power-test-studio-one -GBY

[@oartenobeat]

Pre sonus está de parabéns! Studio One é simplesmente fantástico! Cada detalhe e praticidade que enchem os olhos!! Congratulations! rsrsrsrs

[@bcole23]

LOVE THIS

[@abcdubeatmaking]

Hello gregor happy new year man peace stay safe !!

[@presonus]

Same to you friend 🙏 Stay happy & healthy! -GBY

[@mrabihnaboulsi79]

can't wait to hear the final version. Please share a link :)

[@presonus]

Hi Rabih, thanks for asking! You can find the track here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/i3iahHdobsqIntk -GBY

[@mrabihnaboulsi79]

@@presonus amazing. I loved it.

[@horacestacey3549]

gregor, i really like you videos. i use Studio one 5 its my go to DAW. I would like to see you do a video with Reasons 11 pugin with studio one.

[@dkkrecords]

what about in Project view when you're working with Mastering ....it seems odd to have to go back to the track arrange window n' leave project to reference.

[@RahulSimaro]

Does this trick works with studio one artist 5?

[@louiewgroenewald]

is it possible that you can make one plugin that has all the metering plugins together as one?😊

[@rhythmelofreak]

Is there any way to add one or more guide or reference tracks in the project page for mastering?

[@Yahoomediaclub]

Like these parameters Gregor 100%

[@michaeltablet8577]

Thank you so very much!

[@Erix77]

Super helpfull tips👊👊👊

[@andreasfranzmann9634]

Hey Gregor, great stuff as always, thanks! The downside of this method probably is that you can no longer use "global" mute and solo, right? That's why I prefer a mixbus and exclude the reference tracks. How would this be used in the project page where referencing is needed even more? (I master in the Song Page because of this and the lack of automation in the project page) Thank you man, you're awesome! Cheers, Andy

[@j.osteen6526]

Gregor, you and Joe are undeniably Studio One bosses and I'm always thankful for all your offerings. That being said, just wondering why the need to call reference tracks by a different name ? Guide tracks ? There are persistent terms used to describe events in professional audio that we all use and understand on the daily. Why the need to reinvent the wheel ? Change is good and so is evolution but do we really need to change some of the terms just to differentiate one daw, manufacturer or product from another ? If there is a meaningful reason, by all means I'm all ears......

[@maxstigneev]

How to assign the hot key on solo guide track?

[@flowerchild3407]

He's so cuteeee, thank you man!!

[@presonus]

Hahahaha!!! Thank you. ♥️ -GBY

[@tomallonsmusicalcreation1111]

Please add Automation to project section . Please

[@ZaouPro]

thanks

[@Nik_Rubin]

Is there any way to route this GUIDE output to a listen bus? I’ve been using the configuration you showed for quite some time and the only downside is that I have to duplicate my Sonarworks plugin to that output too, which consumes extra CPU, not much, but still, would be a lot simpler to be able to route it to a listen bus so that it shares all the plugins there.

[@lucavarini]

I have the same question. Anyone? As far as I know it's not possible to route this extra output to the listen bus.

[@gagsmedia]

When is V6 coming? 👍

[@tomtomgrande8833]

Ciao Gregor. How do I place the level meter directly in the Master out at the right as shown in your video?

[@presonus]

Hi TomTom, simply drag the Level Meter Plugin from the "Effects" Browser onto the desired Master Output slot, and then click on it once to expand the preview. Hope this helps! -GBY

[@christopherkouri2317]

Could this be used as a "reference track" so that you can get your mix/master sounding commercial? Or is there a better way to do that?

[@alexeysmirnovguitar]

I think it Can! Be sure to do volume matching for fair listening experience. If you need more than one reference track, just use multiple layers. The only problem with this method is you have to do manual volume matching (using event gain, etc). Not a big deal for me, anyway!

[@hazzardsound1505]

NICE!

[@cheribarkman1784]

Hi Gregor. Does this work on Studio one 3 as well? I have gone through the process and I don't have the guide track output show up in the mix window. I noticed that in the audio set up version 5 has an extra column next to the cue mix called used that version 3 does not have. Maybe this is why? Thanks.

[@presonus]

Hi Cheri, this works the exact same way in Studio One 3 as well. Have you double checked that you clicked on the "Outputs" tab in the Mixer? A new tab window should open up in the channel list on the right. You can scroll through it to see all the available Outputs, or simply drag on the handle to expand view of all available Outputs. -GBY

[@Artek604]

Coll glasses!!! That feature's not half bad either ;)

[@presonus]

Thanks Artur!! Good to see you. -GBY

[@dibi8600]

Gregor I love this DAW. I just wanted to know does this DAW comes with free lifetime updates. For example if after few months new version comes up. Will I have to pay for it. If studio one 6 releases then will I have to pay for it again. Also is there anything to pay for this daw annually? Like it's done on Abelton.

[@RoyMaya]

Yes, you have to pay for major updates.

[@dibi8600]

@@RoyMaya but isn't necessary that we should update or it will stop working?

[@RoyMaya]

@@dibi8600 No you're not forced to update, it won't stop working.

[@dibi8600]

@@RoyMaya seems great it's time to switch from prime to artist

[@presonus]

Hi DiBi, our annual (or monthly) plan where you will always stay up to date is called PreSonus Sphere! It actually includes not just Studio One 5 Professional, but the entire PreSonus Software arsenal (including Notion, Console Shaper, Fat Channel XT, Ampire, Channel Strip Collections, Sample Libraries, Instrument Libraries, Deep Flight One, and many more. It also comes with exclusive video content not available on our PreSonus KZbin channel. Become a PreSonus Sphere Member today: www.presonus.com/products/PreSonus-Sphere/features -GBY

[@jheronimusduko7998]

Hi Gregor. Thank you for your tutorials! I have a question. I see that you are using Sonorworks reference 4. So am I. I've noted that you can not route a track directly to the listen bus. So you can hear it through the listen bus as well. Did I miss something? Or can't it be done? Is there a work around?

[@presonus]

Hi Jheronimus, I'm not quite sure what you're trying to do. The Listen Bus is mirroring the Main Out, so anything that you solo/mute will be solo/muted on the Listen Bus also - Unless you work with the option "Solo through Listen Bus", which you wouldn't want to engage when working with Sonarworks Reference. -GBY

[@jheronimusduko7998]

@@presonus Thank you for trying to answer my question. Although I don't think you understand me. As you sad. The listen bus is monitoring the main out. But I want to bypass the main out with my reference track but let the signal go through the listen bus. I want that because I don't want the main buss processing of my song olso on the reference track like in your video. But I want the room correction from the reference track to be just the same so I want to route the signal trough the listen bus. I use the listen bus for my reference 4 room correction plugin. Solo through listen buss does wat I want. But unfortunately that option is for ill the tracks or none. And that's not what I want. I only want my reference track to go through the listen bus with my room correction on it directly and all the other tracks have to go through the main bus and then trough the listen bus. I'm sorry I'm not a native speaker. I hope you understand me now. And thank you again for trying to answer my question. Greetings from the Netherlands.

[@presonus]

@@jheronimusduko7998 I see. No, that is not possible in this way as far as I am aware. Please consider adding this as a feature request: answers.presonus.com/categories/studio-one-feature-requests -GBY

[@jheronimusduko7998]

@@presonus I will. Thank you!

[@herb-music]

@@jheronimusduko7998 Hi, that´s why I don´t use the listen bus and still use the routing I did in version 4. The simplest way to solve your problem is to create a bus before the MAIN BUS, I call it SUB (the output goes to the MAIN BUS) On the SUB I do all the mix bus processing like bus compression, master eq and limiting etc. On the MAIN BUS itself there´s only Sonarworks (and maybe stuff like Analyzers inserted BEFORE Sonarworks, but only plugins that do not change or process the sound.) That way you can route all reference tracks directly to the MAIN and use Sonarworks and Analyzers for them without them being processed by the SUB inserts. Quick solo switching between reference tracks and mix will be just the same.

[@RoodyCall]

What is the Best way to legally get reference tracks ?

[@beatweezl]

Buy them LOL.

[@skilr]

Hi Gregor, thanks for this video but you can work even faster without clicking Apply before clicking OK, Apply validate your settings and KEEP the settings window opened, OK validate the settings and CLOSE the settings windows

[@beatweezl]

Perfect timing! I literally was looking for videos about Metric AB referencing which I recently scored for half price! My question is why are you routing the reference track to a separate output channel? Couldn't you just hide the track while the channel is showing in the mixer? Is this just to avoid scrolling in the mixer? Thanks Gregor!

[@Iulian.I]

Beacause with simple audio track will go through the master output processing. You won't hear it as it is. This way it won't have any processing.

[@beatweezl]

@@Iulian.I Ah! Duh! Makes sense now, thank you!

[@chaddonal4331]

I am also looking to incorporate Metric A|B. I use it with Sonarworks in Samplitude on their Monitoring Bus, which is Awesome. Trying to figure how to incorporate both here as well for my S1 projects. How are you using both?

[@MarcoGonzalez11]

So it's exactly like using the SOLO button but without all that work around!! 😆😆

[@federicobreno1839]

Thanks!!! No more scrolling through channels😅😅

[@vidoemakenoke2424]

ik ben gehackt door armin van buuren heb mijn software aan ander geven kan mij helpen ?

[@eriksonvaldes5670]

Still waiting for Studio One for M1 Apple. Come on, I know you can!

[@presonus]

Studio One runs very well on M1 already: www.pro-tools-expert.com/production-expert-1/apple-macbook-pro-m1-audio-power-test-studio-one -GBY

[@eriksonvaldes5670]

​@@presonus Thank you. I just installed Studio One on my Macbook Air with 8 gigs of RAM and it's amazing, with 65 tracks and 32 buffer sizes and Ampire and no cracks. Studio One is the best DAW today.

[@herealbutler]

Great tip & video but I cant lie, after 3:30 I got lost

[@jeremygrosbot9282]

Be careful with this method your reference track doesn't pass through your listen bus with maybe Sonarwork or other correction plug in...

[@adamaayan]

Too much screens ha? I need glasses too 😛

[@presonus]

...still on contact lenses mostly, but I felt like switching it up :D -GBY

[@adamaayan]

@@presonus it fits you very well ;)

[@kris_lx]

He seems like a cool guy, but it always creeps me out how he talks and smiles at the same time 😂

[@beatweezl]

That's funny but I think it's part of his charm. That sounds gay huh.