In this video I'll show you a technique that I use to remove those pesky Coleman check valves. I'll also talk a little about repairing one that was in a tank for a stove. Enjoy!
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@calebwong9558Ай бұрын
Thanks for the video. Love your explanation, creating the tool tip and how to fix. Your video has helped me fix my Coleman stove twice now. Thanks again!
@pierregagnon38025 жыл бұрын
You should make a video of how to make a video. Your setup is a masterpiece in teaching and helping others. concise, precise and down to the point. Merci beaucoup.
@matriximaster8 ай бұрын
Great! The internet has showed me that there are was more OCD people than I wanted to admit. It is good to see old school work around people not overly complicating repairs.
@keithan20956 жыл бұрын
Just made a check valve removal tool using a 16mm spade bit , worked great, check valve cleaned and the stove is back to full working order... Thanks for the video
@wyattsdad85612 жыл бұрын
The paddle bit thing is frikken genius!
@tnickells3 жыл бұрын
Followed your directions regarding the cutting of the 1/2" spade drill bit......and it worked perfectly. The lantern had been sitting for 45 years, had to use some extra muscle to remove the check valve. Thank you for the excellent suggestion.
@artsmith1035 жыл бұрын
Got mine out using a cut down 1/2" spade bit as you mentioned. 3/4" will fit through the pump opening but not inside the collar of the check valve. I slowly worked my way up to 90% of full power with an 18V drill. Even started to twist the bit before it broke free. My check valve was good. Bigger problems in the combustor pipe so glad you worked on that.
@karlo80933 жыл бұрын
Man, that helps me a lot! I have a lantern that I have all but given up on getting that valve out of. Coleman suggested I send it to them and pay for the repair. So it has sat now in my shed a few years. You've given me hope on fixing it now. Thanks!
@jimgibson99473 жыл бұрын
Great tutorial, it's dangerous to have a leaky check valve! Great idea on spade bit. I use a hammer impact 3 eighth inch drive with extension and large straight screw driver socket. I hold tank between my knees,set driver in slot, and with one to two licks and it's loose. I put check back in same way! Works great! Just another way to do it. Thanks for the great video! Jim from Kansas!
@patrickclarke88935 жыл бұрын
Love Coleman lanterns and stoves and a collector. Always looking at new ways of doing things. From Sydney Australia.
@BigLewBBQ5 жыл бұрын
This is a great informative video. I also use the spade bit technique. I have several screw drivers with handles that look like yours. My screwdriver handles are damaged due to Labrador Retrievers. To put the check valve back in I attach it to the pump stem and pump then take it out and snug it with the spade bit. Glad you got it fixed man.
@jeffmatteson196411 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video. Yeah it’s hard to get out, but thanks to your advice. I gave up trying to take it out and used carburetor cleaner and that did the trick, I didn’t need to take it out.
@lstollin5 жыл бұрын
This worked for me with my biggest screwdriver, putting a wrench to the screwdriver's square shaft to break the initial resistance. Then once the check valve was completely loose in there, I screwed the square shafted needle valve back in to pull out the check valve from the cylinder without having to turn the tank over, since it still had fuel in it. Carb cleaner had it working in a jiffy! Thanks for the video!
@odysseusreturns91334 жыл бұрын
Thanks. This has been very useful. I have two Coleman lanterns with the same pump/ check valve arrangement and these have been left out in British rain for months. Pumps and check valves have to be removed , cleaned and re-installed.
@RBG-tr9ce4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your knowledge. I'm rebuilding a 1968 220f now. Good timing on finding your video.
@thepowerfullback4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Exactly what I needed to know to fix my stove.
@goodwater20209 ай бұрын
Hey Bud, haven't seen any new content in awhile. U taught me reloading. Elvis n Fortune cookie helps with extras. U doing Coleman while I'm rebuilding old one made my day. Preciate it alot!
@jiujitsu20009 ай бұрын
Thank you, I upload all the time and new videos drop on Wednesday's!
@johnvidal702 жыл бұрын
That spade bit is a great idea, it worked perfectly for me on 2 separate check valves. Thanks man!
@MrTmax745 жыл бұрын
Tx for the info! I couldn't get the check valve out but I was able to still get it cleaned out with some break cleaner. Problem solved!
@steverandall58144 жыл бұрын
I like the idea of using an old spade bit, but I'd grind the shaft square and put it in a large tap handle. Better control, better feel, you can easily push it down firmly into the check valve slot.
@donaldbollman1049 Жыл бұрын
I have a 413H Guide Series Power House stove I found in someone's garbage. I almost threw it out, again, but thought I would check the pump. It would not pump and create pressure. I took it apart and someone had tightened it sooooo tight that where the screw fit into the pump could not reach the screw. The pump would just spin and not tighten. Well, now it works perfectly and my wife prefers that stove. This was manufactured in 3/89 and has the better hinges on the lid (the lid will stay up without the windscreens being attached). This is good on non-windy days if you want bigger pans. I also have a Coleman 2 burner propane box stove similar to the one you fixed up in another video. Without the ignition system. It was manufactured in 3/93 and purchased from Big Lots for like 35$. Still works perfect. Could use a thorough cleaning (thanks for that video). Also has the better hinges on the lid that you don't have to put the wind screens in to keep the lid open. Thanks for your videos. I enjoy them and find them informative.
@cartyharley3 жыл бұрын
Big thanks i just cut down a spade bit, put it in my dewalt impact drive , held it in really tight and just flicked the trigger and came straight out. Unstuck and cleaned then put back and my lantern now works perfect - Thanks great practical advice
@awakened67554 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tip about the paddle bit 👍 I learned something new today so it hasn't been a wasted day. Keep on rolling brother
@KempOutside2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video. I just picked up a stove for $10 and think it has a bad check valve. Now I know how to get it out!
@muzbrake6 жыл бұрын
I love the coleman restoration vids that you do.
@PP-ob8zr8 ай бұрын
Thanks for your videox and all that you do! 😊👍🏻 Great work, great camera, and great sound.
@ypres19174 жыл бұрын
Brilliant idea. I'm going to fire up my grinder this afternoon! Thanks for the tip. But as Explorer Mike (below) suggests pumping through WD40, or (I use) brake cleaner will almost always free a seized-up check valve.
@wilstandridge73886 жыл бұрын
👍GREAT VIDEO👍 Please keep informative vids coming, camping, car camping, preparedness and related vids are a must for getting out and enjoying nature and the world.
@jiujitsu20006 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Will do!!
@lloydleppo1733 жыл бұрын
I had a stuck Check valve that would not allow air into the tank. After watching your video I pulled the Valve stem put a shot of penetration oil in the valve and let it sit a few minutes. Removed the gas cap, emptied the tank and put a shot of compressed air on the valve. it opened right up and works like it should now, Thanks for the Video.
@lisawhitaker8709 Жыл бұрын
Worked for us! TY, mate!
@FortWildernessRicky3 жыл бұрын
That was awesome. Dad and Ricky are going to rebuild ours after watching this. 👍💪😎
@jiujitsu20003 жыл бұрын
Excellent! Thank you for stopping by!
@optichargeproductions5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for helping me fix my dual fuel burner
@bobbyb93713 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much, I bought a 12mm (1/2 inch, roughly) spade bit and sawed the end off. I put it in the drill but it diddn't seem to work. I used a 1/4 inch socket and used that on the end of the bit. Damn it was hard work as you said, but, it eventually came out. It was stuck (the ball and full of sh*%). I cleaned it with carb cleaner. It works like new now, LIKE BRAND NEW. I had the burner shrouds glowing red hot and that was in daylight!!!!!!!! Thanks again Legend.Cheers BobbyB (from down under)
@pyromaniac14916 жыл бұрын
Good idea for making a tool! Most checkvalves can be salvaged. Great video!👍
@everettkitchen32452 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video now I know where the check valve is and where it is
@frankrieger77934 жыл бұрын
Great info been trying to fix mine for a long time you have solved my problems thanks
@jgunther33985 жыл бұрын
The spade bit is a great idea. The parallel faces it has will be a lot better than any screwdriver you'll find. I discovered my check valve was leaking when I removed my thumb and gas squirted 2 ft out of the hole!!! Luckily it wasn't lit or I'd be extra crispy. That was a 400b where the flame is close to the pump.
@pascalcarriere8704 жыл бұрын
Thank you , I got my stove working again !!! I got my Chek valve out with my biggest flat screwdriver without any problems.and then cleaned it with a toothbrush and some break cleaner
@jiujitsu20004 жыл бұрын
Excellent!
@CalvinsCorner726 жыл бұрын
This is awesome man I have several Coleman devices that have faulty check valves I even had one check valve that allowed Fuel ⛽️ to come back out on me. I will give this a try thank you so much for the information. I think I have an old 1/2” paddle bit somewhere
@oldchevy4x44 жыл бұрын
The spade bit trick is perfect!
@jimsmith57565 жыл бұрын
This is the information I was needing, thanks for the video!
@QuantumPyrite_88.95 жыл бұрын
Me too .
@fungdart2 жыл бұрын
Did exactly as in the video and it worked perfectly. Thanks for the tip.
@irvhawke1996 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tip. Very helpful video.
@adventuresofandy20955 жыл бұрын
I have the same problem on my Coleman stove dual fuel. It can't hold any compressed air so I'm gonna do this to make my stove work again. Thanks for the video!
@victorschechter70753 жыл бұрын
The most important thing that I got out of this came toward the end; that air should not be blowing out through the pump hole when I’m done pumping and before I lock down the pump. Now I know I have a check valve to fix.
@explorermike195 жыл бұрын
Nice informative video. There is no need to remove the valve from your stove. You can do more damage than good by taking the valve apart. Just spray some WD-40 lubricant into the pump "oil" orifice and then pump. The solvent in the WD-40 will clean out the gum and lubricate the valve. If you are in the field, you can just put a little Coleman fuel into the pump and do the same thing.
@ypres19174 жыл бұрын
I usually pump through brake cleaner, other's recommend acetone. Almost always that does the trick, BUT sometimes they don't work and you have to remove the valve. I've rebuilt dozens of stoves and lanterns and have only had to remove one.
@insightman053 жыл бұрын
Ross, should you remove the valve if you flush the tank to remove rust?
@edmondthegeek3 жыл бұрын
@@insightman05, I think definitely not. I used to rinse the fuel tank just through the filling hole. You are not able to pour out all of the fuel this way, though, in most cases it is OK. If you would like to drain the tank completely, I suggest to insert some thin, flexible hose and suck it with a big syringe.
@albertday69522 жыл бұрын
ATF .. vehicle automatic transmission fluid ...superb and very searching do a 50/50 mix with acetone one of the finest penetrating mixes to use .. not failed yet for me ... my check valve on the Colman lantern eased out ...with this ... acetone nail polish remover ...
@mawilkinson19576 ай бұрын
I recommend Lacquer thinner as a solvent.
@TinyIslandMaine6 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Great content.
@chuckuu92942 жыл бұрын
Always great tips brother
@MrRdmiller2 жыл бұрын
Good info about the spade bit👍🏻
@tomkilty31923 жыл бұрын
Great vid dude. Helped a lot. Thanks.
@daviddavidson23573 жыл бұрын
You're a fucking genius mate. Had this problem on a Coleman 533 stove. Was able to remove the check valve (they really tighten the fuck out of it) with a screwdriver which had a broken tip, so was quite a bit thicker and then vice grips on the screwdriver handle to loosen it. Heard a click (thought I'd broke the valve head off but it worked) and that was it loose. Took it out, gave it a clean (just clean petrol and a shake around) and it works fine now. For now anyway. As the check valve is buried so deep into the burner what I recommend is screwing on the brass pump rod that stays attached to the valve and using that to start screwing the check valve back in, then stop the check valve from turning with a small tipped screwdriver and loosen off the brass rod and tighten fully with a screwdriver, then reassemble as normal. Thanks a ton though, wouldn't have known where to start if it wasn't for this video.
@lonestar34345 жыл бұрын
Thanks for a great idea on the half-inch spade bit. I will grind one down to remove mine. I love these great old stoves. God Bless you and take care.
@texaslonestarrider6 жыл бұрын
Great Instructions!
@joeshepley1513 жыл бұрын
Good job, This was very helpful. Thanks
@orlandoherreraoutdoorstexa7353 Жыл бұрын
Dang Squid. I sure do appreciate this post. Definitely have a faulty check valve in mine. Thought I was gonna have to go to ebay and by the tool and a used check valve. I will report my findings to see how it worked. -Knee Deep Sailor-
@gerard50883 жыл бұрын
Thank u thank u!! BIG help! Greetings from the Netherlands !
@Thereal111t6 жыл бұрын
Very informative!
@davidstreetman2389 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic presentation thankyou going to try this rite away 😀
@TF8563 жыл бұрын
I like the design of the factory tool to get that check valve out. I can probably make one out of a piece of thick wall steel pipe and a piece of all thread that screws into the check valve and a washer and a nut and welding a big nut onto the pipe. Or just use channel locks, vise grips or a pipe wrench to turn the pipe. Just trim the end of the pipe to fit in that groove.
@ZPDSurvival10 ай бұрын
Very cool. I am working on some lanterns and stoves.
@elyisparow99845 жыл бұрын
Thank U. It was great to know how to does that’s
@_dave44605 жыл бұрын
good vid! i have some older coleman products and it’s time for some tlc and i’ve been scouring channels to get the scoop. thanks for a clear concise instructional video i may need parts and will take your other advice to find a local collector or repairman. how about a t-handle for your homemade extractor to do it by hand? maybe even a tap or die handle...
@RocklandRednecks6 жыл бұрын
You can usually fix a gummed up check valve with just spraying it with carb cleaner and compressed air. I have got a few of them out with a custom ground screwdriver. The same concept applies to your method. HOWEVER the best possible way to get them out is by purchasing a check valve tool from old coleman parts or someone else who makes them. The check valves are brass and are usually in there really tight its super easy to chip one out to the point where you render your stove tank useless or your lantern fount junk. Stripping a check valve equals destroying your stove/lantern. I am a coleman collector so I can justify buying the tool but if you have a really stuck valve don't risk breaking it find a collector in your area that has the tool or purchase the one online. I paid $25 for the tool. Keep the stove videos coming.
@jiujitsu20006 жыл бұрын
Excellent info, Thank you!
@neilyoungnut6 жыл бұрын
Great job on the video,,, keep in mind the small hole in the plunger assembly allows air in on the upstroke.. remove thumb on the upstroke..
@keithan20956 жыл бұрын
Tried spraying it over a couple of hours, had to make the spade bit tool in the end and remove it.
@QuantumPyrite_88.95 жыл бұрын
Use a screwdriver and Never a drill .
@patriciapeterson28204 жыл бұрын
Great video!
@thegodzone3 жыл бұрын
now that was a great idea using a spade bit ,going to the barn to make mine now,,,,,thank you sir
@johnathanalexander18011 ай бұрын
If you use the guide rod to reinstall the check valve it's easier to do without cross threading the valve just screw the guide rod into the check valve and you can get it started and then use the spade bit to tighten it if you so desire
@heathschwab6 жыл бұрын
Awesome I need to work on all of mine and lanterns but got good deals on them cost more to fix them but one day I'll fix and give some away. But when I get ready to work I no your videos will help. God bless
@angelsmaestas86576 жыл бұрын
Danny Schwab I have a Coleman stove says 426...three burners round copper tank any idea what year it may be?
@KEVINNOAD12 жыл бұрын
Thank you great informative vid I know how to fix my problem now
@TheReal19533 жыл бұрын
Spade bit...great hack! If you don't want to use a drill, use a spanner wrench or socket on the drill end of the spade bit. Use Permatex No1 for the threads. Supposedly, on a leaking check valve, the test is to pump up, open the pump and lightly put your finger on the hole....the pump will slowly rise up if the check valve leaks.
@PeacefulWarriorSpirit3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video!
@carlosvpallares14075 жыл бұрын
Exelent video.thks God Bless
@jasonwilliams96636 жыл бұрын
Great tutorial. Gotta love the pink nail polish.. it matches my saw. Lol
@gtgl2x5 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Got it going.
@waterguy59242 жыл бұрын
Nice job...Navy Seal !! Thank You for your service !!!
@jiujitsu20002 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Navy veteran, not a seal. Big supporter of therm. Have a few friends that are. Blessings from Arizona!
@danburch99895 жыл бұрын
I don't need a check valve removal tool, yet. But I'm going to make one for the time that I may eventually need one. I like your idea of using a modified 1/2" spade bit. But I'm going to add a dowel rod that is 1" long and 1" diameter (turned down to about 0.875 diameter or slightly less) with a center hold drilled to the diameter of the spade bit shaft. I'll epoxy the dowel to the spade bit shaft. That should help keep the spade bit centered in the pump cylinder and on the check valve. Maybe a 3/4" dowel rod will work just as well (I'll have to do a test fit).
Hmm Could come in handy with my 550b and powerhouse projects. :) Thanks
@many1072 Жыл бұрын
Nice video thank you
@mikehill53012 жыл бұрын
Valve stuck but after I watched the video I understood the ball wasnt moving at all .Just so happens the diameter of a sharp dowel say the diameter of a chop stick is very useful as it is dry bamboo and makes a good tool to thread in to the ball ..after I reassembled ...it unstuck...thanks .
@The123pcr Жыл бұрын
good job thank you!
@cyrex6863 жыл бұрын
I tried taking it out and it wouldn't budge. Thought maybe it wasn't supposed to screw out. After I watched your video, I could confirm it unscrews. Had to hit the screwdriver with a hammer a few times and use a lot of force, bit it came loose. Great tip with the spade drill, thankfully, I didn't need it. This video could be under 5min BTW if you cut it aggressively.
@jiujitsu20003 жыл бұрын
Thank you! This video was one before I edited videos
@goodwater20209 ай бұрын
Thanks Bud!
@googlesbitch4 жыл бұрын
It's the priming pump oil they use that hardens over time and makes the check valve stick. Mineral oil is a common oil used for priming pump oil because it resist hardening over time compared to other types of oil.
@stewartbruce24094 жыл бұрын
Brilliant video on check valve removal. I haven,t had to remove one yet, but your technique will really come in handy when needed. Great intro to the video, and I am sure you are a 2nd amendment supporter so I thank you for the tutorial, and your service to a free country!! Blessings from New Rochelle N.Y.
@darenlawrence5824 Жыл бұрын
This is what my lantern is doing! Thanks!
@explorermike196 жыл бұрын
Ha haaaa. My friend, I recognize the chewedcup handle on your screwdriver. You must have a dog that chewed u the handle. My dog did that to my screwdriver too. Great video. Very informative!
@erwinbarnedo2016 ай бұрын
Thank you sir.
@jiujitsu20006 ай бұрын
Most welcome! Thank you as well!
@mikesmith8187 Жыл бұрын
Great video fella, these are a devil to remove. It seems to be a weak point with these great stoves.
@nugulsuk86762 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@lorinn73143 жыл бұрын
You showed us how to change, and a problem that I believe is going on,but I wouldn't use a drill to tighten and now you have brass metal shavings inside the tank or check valve. Best to use a mild lock tight or nothing. The Polish will not work with the fuel most likely.
@robertbrew94965 жыл бұрын
I thought I'd try a short cut using a tip from your video. My check valve was leaking so having removed the pump, I just gave it a couple of squirts of WD40 using the long thin nozzle pressed to the valve. It worked!
@maynormoran64674 жыл бұрын
Gracias esto queria saber. Congratulatios good job
@Alienshark3 жыл бұрын
This is good stuff
@jeremynelson84964 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah brother. The dual fuel lives on. thanks!
@williamsteele88912 жыл бұрын
Nice Svea 123 back there!
@1990westfalia4 жыл бұрын
I have the opposite issue with my pump. When I try to pump, there is pressure and it feels as if the tank is fully pressured. This is with the cap off. I’ve turn the pump to the left several turns and thanks not the issue. I have sprayed some carb cleaner down the tube hole and left it for 10 minutes. After I dried everything off and put back together, I still can not pump any air in the tank. Thoughts? Thanks.
@nicholecrouch3114 жыл бұрын
Good advice on wearing glasses when spraying carb cleaner into small crevices I haven't did it in a while but when I was taking apart the carburetor on my Echo weed eater and getting the diaphragms out cuz you not supposed to put carb cleaner on them I got those now and start spraying through the carb Jets and body and shit and I sprayed it in one hole and it came out another hole directly in my damn eyes and holy shit does that shit burn LOL luckily after about five minutes of blindness I was able to see you then but yeah I would agree with that statement definitely also thank you for sharing that half inch paddle bit trick I have about 15 don't worn out or broken paddle bits and I'm totally going to find one down because I believe I'm having same problem just not on a dual fuel stove mine's of 425e which I have several of a couple I've gotten for free and one I paid 5 bucks for at a garage sale and the elderly man that I bought that one from said he couldn't get it to work and I took it home and had it working within 5 minutes the manifold was so full of cobwebs and dirt dauber Nest you wouldn't believe but I love the old stones I'm on the hunt now for a pump Lantern I have a propane Lantern made by Coleman it works pretty well but I'd rather have the old pump ones because unlike propane you don't lose light from the pump ones when it's freezing cold like you do with propane
@jmfa573 жыл бұрын
I'm becoming less and less fearful of trying this at home. Thanks for sharing this!
@TheChrisPineWorkshop6 жыл бұрын
Brilliant! I learned several things from this video! Thanks a lot! I have also seen the check valve remover tools. Is your drill a regular or is it an impact drill?