HOW TO REMOVE A BROKEN TAP

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Tigermoth Racing

Tigermoth Racing

Күн бұрын

#brokentap#howto #repairs
What do you when working on a project for hours, or even days, and on your last part the tap breaks?
In this video, I show you a repair method that has saved my life (and my projects) for years now.
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@krisvind1715
@krisvind1715 2 жыл бұрын
Before going through all of this, just try and grab it with a set of pliers and see if you can twist it back out, i have done that a few times with succes
@bigmotter001
@bigmotter001 3 жыл бұрын
Great tip. I have somehow been extremely lucky in broken tap repairs but I will use this method if my luck runs out. Thanks and take care.
@matthewlawson884
@matthewlawson884 10 ай бұрын
Just broken a tap below the surface so will try this technique. Many thanks
@buzzhack4778
@buzzhack4778 2 жыл бұрын
Heh Thank you that was brilliant! I did not know how that was even possible. I had nearly finished my part… getting a bit chuffed it was nearly finished….then …. 😮 Thanks again 👍🏻👍🏻
@rhysparry5931
@rhysparry5931 8 ай бұрын
like your prototrak we have 12 of them in our college workshop. great machines
@37yearsofanythingisenough39
@37yearsofanythingisenough39 2 жыл бұрын
I noticed you were power tapping with a hand tap (4 flutes). These are designed to be powered by hand not machine because they require that you stop forward motion every so often and back up to break the chip that is forming on the cutting edge. If you do not do this they have a tendency to break due to chip packing. A far better choice for power tapping is what is commonly referred to as a “gun tap” which has an angled notch at the beginning of the tap which serves to push the swarf ahead of the tap thus dramatically reducing the tendency of the chips to pack. They are ideal for through holes such as your example, and can be used on blind holes if the design allows for the drilled hole to be deeper to allow for a chamber more or less, for the swarf to be pushed into. Small sizes such as you show being used are also 2 fluted, thus increasing the internal web thickness of the tap making them stronger to boot. Try them. You will soon stop using hand taps for power tapping I believe.
@StaticFlow_
@StaticFlow_ 3 жыл бұрын
Best one I’ve seen yet. I broke 2-1/4 x 20s today. I’m ashamed of myself. 1/8 carbide and pecking should do the trick. I won’t be able rest tonight. Lol
@TigermothRacingTV
@TigermothRacingTV 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah fix it before you end for the day if you can and you will feel better✔
@LetsRogerThat
@LetsRogerThat 2 жыл бұрын
Saved my butt. Tks
@TigermothRacingTV
@TigermothRacingTV 2 жыл бұрын
Glad it helped!
@vandalsgarage
@vandalsgarage 5 ай бұрын
Using a spade point, straight flute, solid carbide drill works a treat, and there's a much smaller chance of breaking it. I have a couple in my toolbox specifically for this application. Last time I had to drill out a broken tap, there was over an inch of the tap embedded in the part, and it took longer to position the quill in the x/y than it did to drill out the broken tap. If you use taps regularly, you WILL break one.
@sunilsingh-px5hh
@sunilsingh-px5hh 2 жыл бұрын
Great
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair 3 жыл бұрын
What a great video thank you very much I will store this the back my mind next time I have a broken tap. If only this technique could work if a tap brakes on a car..
@TigermothRacingTV
@TigermothRacingTV 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe a small magnetic base drill could work on a car?
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair 3 жыл бұрын
@@TigermothRacingTV true a mag drill could work provided the clearance is there
@de-bodgery
@de-bodgery 2 жыл бұрын
I would have used the length of the tap sticking out and vice grips to back it out before I tried what you did. IF that failed to remove the tap...then I'd do something like you did.
@TigermothRacingTV
@TigermothRacingTV 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely! This was to demo the worst case scenario.
@outlandish9233
@outlandish9233 Жыл бұрын
As others have said, you should be using a machine tap (spiral point), not a hand tap. Also, you should chamfer the holes before tapping. Nice shop you have there!
@TigermothRacingTV
@TigermothRacingTV Жыл бұрын
Lol the amount of comments on this video saying I am doing things wrong is amazing. The point is to show you how to remove a broken tap, not show the optimal way to use a tap. I wish I had been more clear about that. Thanks, the shop is in perpetual evolution, it looks much better now, we need to do another shop tour video..
@oscarpaz27
@oscarpaz27 Жыл бұрын
I felt trascendental spiritual release watching this. There in no bigger @#$%^&!! Moment than when that happens. Thanks for sharing.
@piccilos
@piccilos 3 жыл бұрын
Procunier tapping head changed my life. I can tap M1.6x0.35 holes like it's nothing now.
@TigermothRacingTV
@TigermothRacingTV 3 жыл бұрын
Those are great! Just be very diligent about drilling the right hole size and they make it fast work.
@victormavika9168
@victormavika9168 2 жыл бұрын
Can you do this with carbide tap ? Use carbide endmill small pecks
@TigermothRacingTV
@TigermothRacingTV 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think so. In that situation it would be time to take it to the EDM department.
@sosaltysereezy
@sosaltysereezy Жыл бұрын
Yes you can. You have to use very small.pecks...0005 pecks. Takes a long time but yes u can.
@Militarycollector
@Militarycollector 8 ай бұрын
i’ve encountered the nightmare many times and I’m going out into my garage right now to see if I can peck through an end mill.. Because I’ve tried to set it up and use a car by 10 mil to cut it out but no go,, i’m gonna try this pecking method…
@TigermothRacingTV
@TigermothRacingTV 8 ай бұрын
The pecking is required to prevent overloading and breaking the end mill. It works very well.
@donwest5387
@donwest5387 2 ай бұрын
what if you don't have a milling machine?
@TigermothRacingTV
@TigermothRacingTV 2 ай бұрын
That's a tough one. I would consider doing the same with a mag drill although the speed may be too slow and if you don't have a milling machine you are not likely to have a mag drill ether?
@dkhill27
@dkhill27 Жыл бұрын
I've broken a tap and swore so bad a preacher driving by asked me if I was ok
@AndiRahman81
@AndiRahman81 2 ай бұрын
Intinya end mill harus lebih keras dari pada material TAP itu sendiri ya bang?
@TigermothRacingTV
@TigermothRacingTV 2 ай бұрын
Yes exactly. Pretty much all steel taps can be cut with carbide. A Carbide tap is probably a different problem.. EDM maybe.
@AndiRahman81
@AndiRahman81 2 ай бұрын
@@TigermothRacingTV terimakasih atas saran nya bang, karena saya baru saja mematahkan TAP spiral berbahan HSS, mungkin akan saya coba menggunakan End Mill Carbide .
@kookyflukes9749
@kookyflukes9749 Жыл бұрын
When you have that much sticking out can't you just unthread the broken tap. Sorry if that seems simplistic but I've never done this before. So don't give me a row🙂
@leninraj1418
@leninraj1418 2 жыл бұрын
We can take a punch nd hit ,simple .. nd re-tap again ..
@TigermothRacingTV
@TigermothRacingTV 2 жыл бұрын
I have never seen that work without destroying the threads in the hole?
@leninraj1418
@leninraj1418 2 жыл бұрын
@@TigermothRacingTV Re-tap will clear d damaged thread
@SylasG
@SylasG 5 ай бұрын
@@leninraj1418you can’t tap threads where there’s no material to tap..
@Jeff.Hardy.
@Jeff.Hardy. 2 жыл бұрын
you can remove it easily by welding a bolt.
@TigermothRacingTV
@TigermothRacingTV 2 жыл бұрын
Glad that worked for you. I am not saying this is the only method for removing a broken tap. What I need everyone to understand is that this technique is a great solution for broken taps that are galled in place and no tool or toy or welding is gonna get it out. Try all your easy methods first and then come back to this. If you broke a tap because you were not paying attention or you didn't run it straight or you accidentally knocked the handle then yes the tap will usually come out easily by the methods everyone is mentioning. Im talking about taps that are galled in place and chemically bonded to the part. Most of us don't have edm so this is a tried and true method of removing it. Maybe I should have been more clear about that in the video. Tell me how you weld a bolt onto a 3mm tap broken 1/4 inch below the surface.
@Jeff.Hardy.
@Jeff.Hardy. 2 жыл бұрын
@@TigermothRacingTV it was 3 mm ? I didnt hear you completely. if we are talking about 3 mm, welding wouldn't be good idea. 🤣🤣thanks for comment
@Fliberialwomen69
@Fliberialwomen69 2 жыл бұрын
U are using to big is and em major diameter of a 10 tap is .190
@TigermothRacingTV
@TigermothRacingTV 2 жыл бұрын
Actually, 1/8 is .125 inch. More than enough clearance.
@loganathanrajaram8715
@loganathanrajaram8715 2 жыл бұрын
It will remove easy with tap wrench,, waste idea...
@TigermothRacingTV
@TigermothRacingTV 2 жыл бұрын
The point is so you have a strategy when a tap breaks off in a hole below the surface and there is nothing to grab on to and you don't have a fancy EDM machine. I should have explicitly explained this in the video.
@hellenicspirit9849
@hellenicspirit9849 15 күн бұрын
I guarantee you it would have come out with a pair of vice grips…what a waste of time.
@TigermothRacingTV
@TigermothRacingTV 15 күн бұрын
Sorry I wish we made it more clear but you missed the point. I was showing one way to get a tap out that you cannot grab with any tool.
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