How To Repair A Thin Ring Shank

[@kellieross8139]

I was a sales associate for a large jewelry retailer and we dealt with sending out repairs on a regular basis. Your videos have really educated me on how involved and specialized your craft is! I have a whole new appreciation!

[@stormyeffects4795]

You know you’ve found a good partner when your relationship outlasts your ring

[@phatheadkyle8088]

A partner good at hiding things

[@Stettafire]

Such edge, such cringe 🙄

[@lauren8627]

Goldsmithing is so amazing. I love watching these videos. We use similar equipment in dentistry, I would love to do what you do!

[@lauradarnall227]

What a beautiful looking Ring I love old antique jewelry.....

[@sarahmorley1031]

I need to do this to my Grandmother's engagement ring that I like to wear every day but the band is so thin now it hurts my finger. Thx for the tip.

[@rachelg9873]

It'd be cool if you could hire him to repair it.

[@sarahmorley1031]

@@rachelg9873 it really would. I would love that soooooo much but I'm all the way in the UK 😖

[@UrBrother_711]

I don’t know how I never found and subscribed before, thanks Algorithm!!!

[@amysbees6686]

You make it look SO EASY!

[@stevejones6754]

a question if you don't mind answering, at what point do you remove the stone or stones when doing this type of repair does it come down to the type of stone or the type of heat your using eg, propane or oxy i understand that this would differ from gold and silver

[@Sandro093]

Yea it depends on the stone and the heat source. I personally would never solder anything other than diamonds like this, because most stones could break, change colours or even melt when theyre heated. If thats a sapphire, then I wonder how the stone looked at the end, because corundum will melt when heated with flux. The heat source determines if you can heat up a s all area really quickly or if you have to heat up a bigger area for a longer time, since most metals will distribute most the heat

[@dooleyfussle8634]

Yeah, the specific reason I watched this was to see how he handled heating up a ring with a stone. I am really dubious that you could get away with doing it this way without potentially damaging the stone and/or the mounting which is thin and likely to be soldered on.

[@what_kay_says]

Although it has nothing to do with the description of the video, I was really hoping to also see the top of the ring...

[@atb002]

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[@what_kay_says]

@@atb002 good catch!

[@danac848]

@@atb002 But once finished because the stone was not protected.

[@janinebean4276]

Looks fantastic! That shank was THIN!

[@stephluisa]

Is that platinum. I’ve had mine put away because it broke on the band and it was most painful injury getting stuck in my finger. I need to find a place that can fix it. Thanks for the video.

[@greentape7817]

With the whack of new followers you just got, and our million questions, you might want to do a Q&A video! Or, I guess more accurately what I`m saying is, I would like it if you did a Q&A video! ❔💍⛓💎❔

[@TheGhostQuarter]

I was very proud of myself that i was able to look at the thumbnail and figure out what you did. You did a good job I just happened to put together how you did it.

[@muffadalkothariful]

Wht you applied mam to protect stone from heating? Request to reply Thank you for so nice video

[@moderngoldsmith]

Muffadal Kothari hello! That was just a coating of boric acid and alcohol to prevent fire scale, it wasn’t used to protect the stone. The synthetic ruby holds up to heat pretty well, especially when it’s not a direct flame. Thank you

[@verycooljay]

@@coffeedinosaur most common stones can take heat are diamond, sapphire and ruby.

[@FishesAndLoaves997]

I’m having this done. Transferring from a thin band to a heavy gold band!

[@moderngoldsmith]

GracieGirl7 nice! It’s a cost upfront but it will last for years!

[@strawberryme08]

It’s wierd that the metal thins over time. Mine is a thick band but I need it replated

[@yamitsukikarasu8857]

@@strawberryme08 Everytime you polish or repair a ring, you take some of the metal off. Metal doesn't thins over time. It just had a lot of work done on it through the years.

[@cdawg9218]

@@strawberryme08 we wear away metal on our rings every day we wear them. The metal rubs on all kinds of surfaces and rings next to it and over the years its no surprise that things wear. Gold and silver aren't as hard as you think they are.

[@melissab3038]

This is the first video of yours I have seen, so I am wondering if that is 14K gold? Or is this a vintage costume jewelry? I any event, do you use rhodium plating for both gold and costume jewelry? Sorry if this is a dumb question.

[@Yeakerr]

I worked as a fabricator in a sheetmetal shop used lots of silver solder so my question is .are you using low temp silver solder or something else ?

[@jim7082]

What was the retail cost for this job?

[@stelladowney6891]

I need to repair a shank on a pearl ring (think it’s split where a resize had occurred in the past) . Can you advise if any special steps need to be taken to protect the pearls please?

[@tomspence5659]

If not too late, the pearl MUST be removed first!!

[@RissaFirecat]

Wonderful! I loved it!

[@elizabethjoseph2407]

Does this make the ring weak at the new join or would it be ok after the repair?

[@JMac-27]

What stats on a ring setting do you recommend, what metal is best, what size proportions are well built to last?

[@geniej2378]

Is the thinness of the band part of the design or is it simply a sign of wear? I have a few rings whose bands are thin at the bottom.

[@patpeters6331]

I think that the thinness comes from years of daily wear, at least that's been my experience.

[@vangu2918]

I have a ring that looked like the original ring when the store sent it out to be made larger.

[@ToddGodfrey]

How do you determine if that stone can take heat?

[@chrissidae374]

You normally know what stone type it is and due to this, if it can stand the heat or not. This might be a ruby so it can handle it. If you're not quite sure you can put a coat of cool paste around or solder it with the ring head in water or wet sand.

[@ToddGodfrey]

@@chrissidae374 Interesting. there is no way it’s a natural Ruby with a hole drilled through it like a black onyx. That’s why I was curious. I did buy some of the Good earth acid for rhodium plating. It really does a nice job.

[@GoinLite1]

A good rule of thumb is Red, White and Blue can take heat providing you can determine if the red and blue are corundum and the white is diamond

[@chrismurphy8383]

Not seeing many (any?) answers to questions, but I shall try anyway - how much would something like this cost, generally

[@nicoler3043]

Looks great! 💙

[@writerspen010]

Question -- How does the rhodium not impact the stone when replating rings? Why does it impact the metal only?

[@evelinanygren51]

It's probably because an electric current is involved.

[@tamsmith61]

Fantastic work!

[@Sidrafonas]

Hey! Love your videos and keep rewatching them! Could you tell me what kind of flux do you use ?

[@margaritaminjares532]

The stone won’t get damaged?

[@kennethwashington9002]

This is a very cool job to have!!❤

[@jesuschrist232]

Can you just add an extra strip of gold without having to cut the original shank?

[@verycooljay]

That usually requires more works and result usually will not turn out as good as taking the whole shank off and replace the new one. Cutting both ends and solder a new shank on just two small spots need to take care. Solder a thin strip metal along the old shank, the strip needs to follow the curve of the old shank which is very troublesome. After you curve the strip perfctly, you need to make sure the strip will stay on the old shank nicely. Through all this, you can start solder the strip on to the shank, but you need to make sure you apply even heat on the whole shank so the solder flow flawlessly. If the solder does not flow smoothly then you will see a lot of small holes where you soldered. Hope this explanation answers you question.

[@shinmatsunami]

How do you not damage the stones with the heat and rhodium?

[@suey1690]

The stones aren't electrically conductive so the rhodium doesn't plate onto them. The heat could have done some damage if the stones were hear sensitive, idk how you tell when that will or won't be a problem

[@KayGee4319]

This is soooooooo relaxing, and because you use the dremel and the files and have pink bubbling water for some reason that I don't even need to understand, I feel like I'm getting a free mani-pedi!!!!!!! And I don't even have to get COVID AND be talked about in another language to get it either, now THAT'S PRICELESS!!!! Now THIS is ASMR for 2021!!!! (NO offense intended towards anyone, but that is the risk we take going anywhere at this point in time, and the being talked about has happened to me for years and we all know it happens so don't make me a bad guy people).

[@ChilledfishStick]

Don't you lose a lot of gold from grinding, sawing, sanding, etc.?

[@Sandro093]

You do, but you will gather the fust and smaller pieces when it falls down to the leather. Then you can send it back to a refinery

[@Ameylynn]

Masterful work!!!

[@dianalara7440]

do you work with silver ? asking for a friend .

[@fmt_Guåhan]

You don't have to remove stone prior to soldering? I had taken my ring in to a goldsmith to fix shank that was bent after falling off my finger onto driveway. I drove over it and it was bent. The stone was a garnet (birthstone)I had for almost 30 years. . Apparently, he said while soldering, the stone cracked ☹. He had some old garnets laying around and replaced it.

[@jlo1423]

A diamond could take the heat

[@fmt_Guåhan]

@@jlo1423 Yes, I am aware that a a diamond can take heat, but this heat can also loosen precious metal holding it in place...however, this wasn't a diamond but a soft stone.

[@nostrobothnia]

@@fmt_Guåhan this was a synthetic ruby, which are pretty heat-resistant.

[@jazelkidstv]

good day mr. Modern Goldsmith may I know what is the name of the tool you use for fixing bend ring?

[@jlo1423]

They never reply! They want comments upon comments. Absolutely useless trying to get any prices or answer on here

[@RoMenendezT]

@@jlo1423 I'm sorry, but if you go back a few comments you'll see he answered some questions, problem is the videos continue getting views and he keeps posting more. How could he possibly reply to every single comment in every single vid he posted? Try it yourself and tell me how long it takes you.

[@zulfiadanyusuf2061]

Love your work 😊

[@traces2807]

Absolutely amazing, stellar work!

[@outlaw451]

I am convinced most people think jewel repair shops have a shrinking and enlarging ray.

[@junkabella6324]

Wonderful rebirth!

[@aarons.4652]

Is making jewelery a hobby or a profession? You skill says professional. If it's your profession, what would you recommend an experienced hobbiest silversmith to do to become a professional?

[@moderngoldsmith]

Aaron S. It is my profession! Honestly just learning more techniques and doing more work! Once you have all of the basics down you can start to make a living off of it.

[@aarons.4652]

@@moderngoldsmith great to know! Thank you!

[@chrissidae374]

Here in Germany it's an apprenticeship, so you study it for three-and-a-half years. Maybe at your place there's also an opportunity for this.

[@DustinMercer]

do you give back to the customer the gold that you removed from the original ring?

[@moderngoldsmith]

Dustin Mercer depends on what we decide! I can either return it, or recycle it (which gives a discount on the overall cost) or throw it into the melt when making a new shank.

[@DustinMercer]

@@moderngoldsmith Thank you, sir. My ring is be re-shanked as we speak. And we never discussed the gold that he is removing; what he will do with it. I wonder how to approach this when I pick up the ring (and ask for the gold back, etc.?) I'm assuming he thinks he will keep the gold . . . maybe this is standard? But at today's prices, he's hardly keeping worthless "scrap."

[@moderngoldsmith]

I would call now to discuss it before you pick up. Sometimes the gold scraps can be thrown in a pile making retrieving them later *annoying* to the jeweler. Some places will say that the old shank is included in the price and will want to charge you more. It’s all kind of silly. After doing hundreds of shanks over the years I’ve found the best practice is to just have that conversation at the start with the client, to avoid any awkwardness later! At the end of the day, you’re the customer and they should give it back to you if they care about good service. Good luck!

[@DustinMercer]

@@moderngoldsmith Thanks again! I called. Left a message. And I will use this information, when, I bet you anything, they say they were planning to keep the scrap, and this becomes an unnecessary issue. Really appreciate it.

[@DustinMercer]

The jeweler, William Penn Jewelers, just flat out lied to me. I offered them some gold to use to fix the ring. They said "No, we can't use any gold you might supply for the shank. We cut off the old gold and use a brand new shank! Sir, YOU JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW THIS IS DONE, DO YOU?" Then when I picked up the ring and asked, "OK, so where's the gold you cut off from my ring?" William Penn Jewelers said, "Oh, we used that old gold for the new shank! I'm sorry, did I forget to tell you we're bold-faced liars!?!? We are! Thank you!"

[@Bbgirlbajolaluna]

Amazing 😍😍😍

[@19gregske55]

I was surprised that the synthetic corundum could take the heat!

[@Sam-ni2yx]

Why would you have your torch bent back like that? Must make the gas and oxy knobs hot to touch

[@bdufka]

as a person who has nothing to do with making or repairing rings and am just watching for the end result, I would hope to see the ring from the top and perhaps how much this service costs :D

[@krasimircokov475]

there is still much to learn

[@ericeric6342]

I have a two band yellow and white gold ring, whose bands have separated slightly. Could they be glued back in place? If so, what glue would you recommend?

[@ConstantinSilver]

O operatie usoara bravo si succes

[@Zenkaz967]

Beautiful...

[@thomaswalsh4552]

How to repair a think shank: 1. Get rid of it

[@jy2102]

Hmmmm..... he is heating the “ruby”, is it a fake or real? Why not remove it and then work on it. The heat can change the color or damage the stone

[@nostrobothnia]

He mentioned in a comment that this was a synthetic ruby. They are very hest-resistant. I've made a pendant using silver clay with a synthetic ruby embedded into it before firing, and it turned out fine.

[@jy2102]

@@nostrobothnia got it. Synthetic stones are good like that.

[@lamargobrown5569]

Cost

[@vladimirkovacevic1656]

awesome

[@TheDougMan3]

I need my ring fixing and I was told it will cost 220£ for a 9carrot gold shank replacement

[@milesaway3422]

Do you accept projects that aren’t gold?

[@vorkev1]

PLATTUNG IS AWSOME but i my self hate when people do it. for the fact if you take it to a place that buys silver they will most of the time do a simple scratch test at first then tell you its to hard to test and tell the person we have to cut into it to make sure its silver and most times the person will not want that so the ring will get tosin a drower and no one gets to see it or the person will let them damage the ring making it not elagble for resale. and my business is in resale so when I have to cut a ring I have to look at is it worth repairing or tossing do to low value wear if uncoated its simply just clean it up no damage made. yes sometimes I can just get threw the planting if its thin with no damage that I cant buff out but sometimes things are heavy platted. either way looks great my friend.

[@missblee1]

Niiiiiiiice.

[@charmspeakjewelrydesignstu7224]

Does Rodium plating need to be done in a ventilated hood?

[@jthompson4111]

My dead moms ring is bent Me. Looks up ring repair First video 5 secs in CUT CUT CUT ME . ................no

[@jlammetje]

Repair for a bent ring is different though, look at some of his other videos! There is a video where a ring was completely flattened and he repaired it without cutting!

[@ScottSchell-f1l]

Why would you rhodium plate a gold or a silver ring I used to do thousands of ring sizes and soldering chains back in the 80s we always like the color of our metal that's why we chose it I understand rhodium is hard still wrong

[@Sheepdog1314]

that had to be a ruby...it didn't explode...

[@JadedGenXer]

You would think they could have just reshaped the ring on the ring sizer with a soft mallet . This is not accessable by just anyone and all your saying is " send it to a jeweller "

[@Болгарин-т5р]

Это как надо рукой по столу тереть, что бы кольцо протёрлось, постоянно крошки смахивала что ли?

[@stonejade8057]

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[@SmileyFace123Lolz]

This is prolly dumb, but I didn't know chlorine ruined silver, so I went swimming for hours but the place was noticeably too chlorinated. So, I noticed later that the ring I've been wearing for over five years from my big bro got thinner and panicked. I feel like an idiot, I really didn't know. Is it fixable? Is it possible to put coatings on it to thicken it? I have this paranoid belief that if I take it off, my older brother will die, but I'm more scared of it slowly dissolving away and dissappearing now, new insecurity unlocked and all that. And I really just wanna keep the ring that's left without breaking anything. I'm just really sad.

[@a.jgoldhouse]

Hi...! Friend