how to repair intek v twin governor

this is what happened to this craftsman tractor,and the repair for it,

[@WIDESIDE72]

Great video! I have a Snapper Z1404K ZTR that has had a 16hp Vanguard swapped on a few years back. Spring mowing season is here, so I changed the oil and filter (both B&S spec as I have done for the 10 yrs I have owned the mower) and after a half hour of mowing "BAM! CRUNCH!" , so I shut her down quick. Checked the oil, level fine, let her cool off, starts up fine, but no power under load. I believe I have experienced the governor failure that seems common to these engines. I think my uncle paid nearly $5k for the mower in the mid 90's, and my aunt had trouble with the original 14hp engine after he passed away and she had the new 16hp installed (around $2k after install (!)). It has been a great, trouble free mower (and was free to me), so I want to keep it going! Thanks again!

[@jonathanrowe5482]

Really appreciate this video. My governor had seized and dug into the crankcase making the hole oval etc. Applying your technique to clean up the shaft and re-seat it using JB Weld was essentially my original thought, but I didn't know if the shaft was supposed to spin or in fact be pressed in. You answered that and confirmed my game plan. Thank you!

[@polishpistol1]

One of the most informative videos i have watched on youtube Thanks

[@stevew270]

It's easy to forget how amazingly simple these engines are on the inside.

[@ddroffut]

Thanks so much for posting this fix. I have the identical problem with mine and after taking it apart and seeing the problem, your video answered all of my questions I had while cleaning it up and gathering all the little broken pieces. Excellent instructions...

[@TheKubelman]

I so admire your skills and courage to tear apart and dive in to assess and repair--you're right in that "if it's broke...maybe there's little to lose"---I'm also struck quite often as to how much material/energy/etc are wasted (and charged to the consumer for a total replacement item) when a small part causes the complete "uselessness" of a complex machine such as this one--I'm guessing there's a complete lack of shame on the part of the designing /engineering/marketing folk who make the waste of all this inevitable--

[@richardhonea4001]

I just removed my Briggs & Stratton intek 25HP v twin from my Scotts 2546 and had exactly the same problem. The governor gear had seized to the shaft and spun in the crank case until the whole assembly fell into the sump, destroying the fly weights as it went. There was enough room to get in a 90 degree drill and tap so I put an 8--32 set screw in also to help hold the shaft.

[@jnarowe]

So back again to thank you. Motor is running better, not surging, and just some backfires which I think I'll be able to adjust out. Ultimately I think your assessment that the carb was clogged was on point. I really do appreciate your help!

[@richiegray1721]

Man thanks alot for the video I like it because you went right to the problem you didn't talk about stuff that didn't even relate to what you were doing like some other videos I have seen 👍👍 two thumbs up

[@remmurd89]

Just what I needed to see. Great explanation! I'm sure this is what happened to my engine as well. Thank you for taking the time to make this video!

[@63256325N]

Clever fix. Nicely done. Thanks.

[@robmontgomery8117]

Nice, same problem here, and now i know..Ill be tearing into it later tonight...awesome vid, very explanatory...thanks...!!..

[@knighthawk86855]

Picking up a 21hp Briggs Intek tomorrow for 40 bucks ..at the neighborhood scrap yard...if it has this problem I will know where to go to lookup how to fix it....tks great video!

[@mustie1]

glad l was able to help,,

[@robertgwalsh5878]

I have a PYT9000 with a 24hp b&s vanguard. This video may be helpful in the future. Thank you.

[@jnarowe]

Thank you so much for your quick response! I checked the carb carefully. Seems completely clean except I did see a slight bit of corrosion on a couple screws, hinting that there may have been water in the fuel. I did a partial re-build on the carb, blew it out etc. and the injectors appear to be OK. The reason why it's a "partial" rebuild is that some of the screws are so soft, I can't get them out without destroying them. Did a full soak, but am a bit concerned that I see the throttle jumping.

[@TheShadeTreeFixitMan]

Very interesting video and very informative. Thank you.

[@59TURBINE]

THANKS, FOR THE VIDEO. PULLED MY ENGINE OFF YESTERDAY AFTERNOON. WONDERED WHY GOVERNOR WENT SO SOON. GOING TO OPEN THE MOTOR TODAY. THE PIN PROBLEM, I WILL CERTIANLY LOOK OUT FOR. IF I DIDN'T WATCH THIS, I MAY HAVE BEEN DOING THIS JOB A SECOND TIME. THANKS AGAIN :)

[@mustie1]

+George Bischoff twice would suck

[@derpy1234games]

I just got my brothers going today and it is doing the infamous wide open throttle no response I did the adjustment on the governor correctly and still no luck I've worked on machines my entire life. I'm positive this is what is wrong with his as well.

[@mustie1]

glad l was able to help

[@mustie1]

good luck, hope it works out for ya

[@mustie1]

that could be on yours, this one you could see where it was binding, but maybe there related,,

[@mustie1]

if its surging it can be a dirty carb, this is more if its racing out of control,

[@mustie1]

@madmike1981 I was afraid to weeken the boss that holds it as it gets alot of side load from the cam gear, plus there was a blip on line saying that this worked for someone else, but I do like that idea,,

[@mustie1]

no but thanks for the gesture,,

[@1963impala2drWaylonWire]

amazing what you can do with some jb and a lot patience

[@rogerlevy57]

Using Mustles video, I took my B&S twin apart, the governor weights had blown apart just like this vid describes, so I'm off to buy the governor cog as he says. So very thorough howto, thank you. Not very impressed with B&S motors as a result, esp if this is a known problem. What I would like to know is how to get the darn thing to idle slowly and rev more at full throttle. Thats why I was fiddling with the governor and why it responded by falling to bits.??

[@HomeGrownPyro1]

You may have to change some springs around. I just got done setting one up on a go kart for my daughter and took me a little to figure it out. However, if you loosen the nut on the throttle linkage it will allow you to move it Bach and fourth easily and with a spring installed in the opposite direction then the throttle cable, it will return to slow idle.

[@Swamp46Daddy]

Great video !!

[@mustie1]

@Peppercatkeith thanks but what was that 2nd part?

[@philliphall5198]

Thank You for information

[@neilmacleod5371]

By the looks of all the people with the same problem , looks like Briggs&Straton are making junk engines . I have two B&S motors , one 19.5 hp ,with nikki carb ( carb is also a piece of junk , and one 19hp . Both opposing pistons , same governor I think , both have speed control issues , removed the governor on one , now runs super with a gas pedal , the other will be done over winter .

[@mustie1]

@Busia1949 thanks for watching

[@mustie1]

l think you may want to try another carb, it sounds like it may have blocked passages, if you try to hold it at idle and it just dies, thats your problem,,

[@justfishing6067]

Old mustie! I just got one of these mowers Had a blown out pan gasket, common issue apparently. Engine is open right now, looking for something extra to check out while it's apart!

[@DonLanierPearlProAudio]

Ive got a Allis Chalmers rider with the Professional series Briggs Twin, it runs fine but there is no throttle control, it runs one speed, Ive set the governor as you set forth, and Ive replaced the O Rings inside the Carb and it still runs at a fast only speed, no adjustment no matter what you do with the Throttle. Im going to assume the Governor has broken and begin the rebuild process.

[@mustie1]

if you have a compressor yes, if not they make electric ones too

[@mustie1]

@1963impala2dr or alot of jb weld and a little patience, in some cases

[@JoePolvino]

I replaced the governor gear on my 20 hp intek, but it still races even in idle. Had the same problem as you, with the gov gear seizing on the pin. No idea why it is still happening, unless the little retaining washer is slipping out.

[@DoddClan]

Thanks so much for the video. I'm a beginner and am trying to fix my dad's tractor by replacing the governor. I can't unbolt the motor; just can't seem to get enough torque. Should I buy a pneumatic gun?

[@MrHurst-lb1rn]

nice vid, thanks for the info. I heard a nice sounding engine revving in the background, what was that?

[@mustie1]

@w1dvf thanks

[@robertscovanni3122]

Thanks , I have my v twin pulled apart . I can’t get the gear off the shaft it’s seized on there. Any suggestions .?

[@jnarowe]

Wow! Great video. So to clarify, do you feel the cause of engine surging is a broken governor? I can see the throttle pulsing up and down, and the engine does not run clean at any choke setting. It's the exact same engine as in your video.

[@danielstopka1313]

I have a question i can barely feel the groove in the shaft for the retainer. Was this one very deep? I don't see how it will hold it in place.

[@knighthawk86855]

tks!

[@MCRideout]

Do you think the feet on the counter weights were ground flat from years of use? I'm doing this job now, and the feet on the original counter weights look much more worn than the new counter weights. I think the feet eventually wore down until they were no longer able to hold the thimble on the shaft anymore...

[@genesloan3175]

Have never seen this type of failure. Governor counter weights are sometimes the culprit, but never seen that stud be failure point . For fix !

[@jnarowe]

I'll give it a try. Any good sources for a carb? Thanks! Your video looks a bit beyond my patience level...

[@justen5506]

My 18.5 briggs was running good then all the sudden it was racing. Is the governor the cause for that? It wont throttle down at all.

[@goudrelle1]

Hi, This fix was dome back in 2011, did you get anymore issues with this engine and or governer, does it still run ?? I have the same issue with mine, I need to know if its worth to try and fix it like you did !! Thank you so much.

[@davidcurtis8428]

Where did you find the replacement govenor? Thank I need that to fix my mower.

[@lisaa.powell3634]

The govenor shaft can't be drilled and pined, to the sump cover?

[@jnarowe]

I can't seem to reply with a video of my own. I thought that was a feature of youtube! Anyway, I posted one on my channel, post thorough carb cleaning. I can get it to run cleaner by playing with the choke, but it will shut off if I pull the choke all the way out.

[@zeth15943]

my pin broke off so i drilled it out it drilled very easy but you cant buy a new pin i got lucky and found a good one off ebay so im waiting for parts lol

[@cliocrew3331]

Same issue here, Idk about pounding that pin all the way in, I haven't done the JB Weld yet but, with the pin all the way in, the snap ring won't seat... Please help

[@cliocrew3331]

I thought I might use the old snap ring as a stop so, the pin doesn't go in too far ?

[@kellymorris8991]

Good point. Don't get me wrong......this video is wonderful and I appreciate it. I followed this video and after the JB weld set I found the grove in the shaft for the snap ring was too low. Wish I had thought to control the depth the shaft went into the hole before I bonded it. I ended up sliding the snap ring down as far as it would go and used a little JB weld on the snap ring to hold it in place. Hope it works!

[@cliocrew3331]

Kelly Morris Me too, mine works good so far. It helped to drill a 1/16" hole in the bottom of the hole for air relief too

[@dosstheboss100]

Have the same problem was this a permanent fix did it last?

[@mustie1]

joe boss yes its still running

[@kylebeausoleil8265]

Curious as to know if the JB weld held up? I'm in the same boat with my Briggs 18.5

[@HomeGrownPyro1]

It will definitely hold up if you prep the surfaces properly like he explains in the video. JB weld is great stuff

[@paulslapcm]

i have just fully rebuilt my 23 hp intec motor only will wind over with plugs out soon as i put them in it wont even do a revolution ive checked valves clearance good battery jump started still wont turn do they have a decompression thing on the cam ive put new crank new rods piston rings every thing

[@HomeGrownPyro1]

Yes they do have a compression release on the camshaft

[@philliphall5198]

They can get a lot of slack and need to be replaced before they fly apart and destroy block

[@robertyearian227]

I've just put a new steel govenor in 24 hp v twin i put the govenor throttle on before I turned the engine in upright position it still revs wide open i tried readjusting the govenor throttle wide open govenor rod all the way down turned the shaft all the way to right still runs wide open i can pull up on throttle and idle it down but if you let go of the throttle wide open can u help me muzie

[@mblack360]

Same problem here, ever figure it out?

[@MCRideout]

I thought that was the case. I put a new governor in, and it failed two minutes later. I don't know what to do now.

[@jenb7681]

where can you buy a replacement governor shaft?

[@thefirstdabdave]

Yeah where can u find it? Mine broke in half.

[@sjp6322]

This might just be what has happened to mine.

[@Peppercatkeith]

ice jon man and air cool oh what could that be i think i have one and my other is lc

[@paulslapcm]

i dont remember seeing one off these governor in it if its missing that could that be the problem

[@jnarowe]

Can I send you a thank you gift?

[@Ajaxaxxess]

Mustie my old friend! any idea why this would keep happening to the same motor? Ive installed,adjusted and blown up 2 internal governors. Why does it keep happening buddy?

[@mustie1]

l would think its binding

[@Ajaxaxxess]

@@mustie1 thanks man! 3rd one shows up shortly. Ill see if its binding.

[@georgedavis4315]

how you get the pin anybody

[@mustie1]

ebay

[@super20dan]

not a fan of the briggs twin. I avoid buying them now. too many flaws