I used a Burgess fogger as per your recommendations....back in 2017. Got two uses from it and the fog did do a great job killing mites. However the plastic parts in the machine were destroyed by the OA. They absolutely fell apart when touched. I did wash it thoroughly after using and put it away dry. I finally went to a pro vap machine. Expensive, but worth saving hives that are worth the price of the vaporizer.
@danpence27484 жыл бұрын
Hi David, love your channel. I'm a 3rd year beekeeper here in Ohio and go to your videos a lot for advice. I tried OA treatment with Burgess fogger this year, as i have only used apivar strips . Burgess changed design here in 2020, i tried your recipe of 100ml alcohol and 25 g of OA but since plastic container was bigger it wouldn't draw it up... my solution that worked was, i got small glass jelly/ mason jar that screwed in correct, but had to mix a double batch(200 ml alcohol and 50 g of OA ) for it to fog correctly.Just wanted to to pass it along to your viewers to help save some aggravation. Thank you sir
@ashleyvalles1256 Жыл бұрын
Does this still work for you?
@jeffs53557 жыл бұрын
Great vmessage. Oxalic acid is a great treatment method whether vaporized or fogged. Folks need to remember that oxalic acid doesn't penetrate capped brood. So any mites closed up with the larva will reproduce and come out with the hatching bee. Therefore, 3 treatments are required 5-7 days apart. Last year I almost lost my first hive to deformed wing virus caused by the mites. I did oxalic acid and they recovered and made it through winter very strong. No problems this year with scheduled treatments.
@andreszemeredy89467 жыл бұрын
Jeff S💤💩💩
@bbqtrain75287 жыл бұрын
So what about my uncapped honey, if this stuff is so dangerous then it must be soaking in the honey. I eat that honey!
@jeffs53557 жыл бұрын
BBQ Train oxalic acid is a natural chemical in many plants and present in many foods naturally like spinach....
@Kaizen-nw4wj7 жыл бұрын
OA should not be used with honey on the hive if its going to be harvested.
@cluelessbeekeeping13227 жыл бұрын
BBQTrain There is Oxalic Acid in honey, with or without treatment. You've eaten more oxalic acid than you may bee aware of.
@jameshuynh73007 жыл бұрын
I am a beginner backyard beekeeper this year and there are so many things to learn. I follow your vids, are very informative. I just bought a fogger, oxalic acid, grain alcohol and mason jars (regular mouth) and tried out last Sunday. I am still learn to work with the fogger properly. Thank you so much.
@billcoley85205 жыл бұрын
James Huynh there are a lot of things to remember, being new, I can only imagine the confusion on things to do, and how to do them.
@Tamburello_19945 жыл бұрын
I'm really impressed at your attention to the new bee keeper. I have no interest in bee keeping but you do make it an interesting, compelling watch and I have learned a lot over the past few days watching safely from my keyboard. Thanks Barnyard Bees, for sharing the excellent content.
@RonRay7 жыл бұрын
When you said "You can pour out a little bit", I expected to hear a little "sluuurp!". :) But seriously, that looks like it would kill a LOT of bees!
@suehooker13296 жыл бұрын
Wow David do you ever sleep? I appreciate a quick response but with the hour difference and responding back literally in minutes no wonder you are so successful in your work. Again thank you so much that alone solves a big question for us. “Your the Man again”!!! Go to sleep...
@Warren763176 жыл бұрын
When ever one uses a Respirator you need to be careful you are using the correct filters for what you want to filter out. Not all filters work for everything or anything. Some filters allow what you are trying to keep out through the filter and trap it in the mask making the bad chemical concentrated in the mask. So make sure you are using the correct filters. Just some good info to share.
@ChrisGrazioli4 жыл бұрын
@OBAMFSpike can't be that intelligent, forgot to list which filters specifically are the ones you want to use. thanks for Half a thing!
@tardonator4 жыл бұрын
These cartridges (yellow band) that come with the 3M respirators are typically general use and rated for most things including a particulate filter, organic vapors, and acid gasses. Some particular chemicals like formaldehyde and mercury vapors need a specific filter though.
@Sylwester_Krolak5 жыл бұрын
Oxalic acid decarboxylase above 189°C so you don't use oxalic acid vapour, just formic acid vapour. This method don't kill more than 60% of varroa mite.
@cherylwillis61895 жыл бұрын
Do the pads work?
@stopthismadness807 Жыл бұрын
There is over 3/4 of alcohol in the mix. He does not heat up oxalic acid, he vaporizes the mix and that steam does not reach 189 C. Stop telling nonsense.
@kylew13856 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this info David. I am a new beekeeper and I am loving it, but one thing that has intimidated me even after a decent amount of research was Varroa treatment. This is exactly what I have been looking for. I really needed a schedule for treatment as well (thanks again). This video also prompted me to research if Oxalic treatment could/should be done with honey supers on (not that I don't believe you, I just want to see the science myself). I found a number of scientific studies showing that there was pretty much no Oxalic added (honey naturally has Oxalic in it) while supers were present. Also, MANY vegetables we eat every day have decent amount of Oxalic acid in them naturally. EDIT: Please keep the videos coming, so much good info here on youtube from you and a number of others. I'm just consuming all of your experiences :D
@ashleyvalles1256 Жыл бұрын
did it work?
@CrankyCronos6 жыл бұрын
So it's been a year, and you've had a chance now to produce long-term results. Do you have any stats of before/after results? What well did this perform to keep your numbers into check? Where there any hive losses? Any gotcha's or bugs you had to iron out?
@douglaswolfgang96983 жыл бұрын
Why use alcohol? Would sugar syrup work?
@samuelcaponi45163 жыл бұрын
@@douglaswolfgang9698 Alcohol evaporates quicker than anything else. you COULD use sugar syrup if you want to attract bees, but in terms of bee safety the acid is okay and the alcohol will leave a lower impact on your hive just since it goes away quicker. Also it is a better solvent than water
@SEAhawkstwelfthman5 жыл бұрын
Just wanted to say thank you for all that you are doing for the beekeeping community. I really appreciate the hard work and the advice; especially when it will end up saving me a lot of money and garner the high success levels that are necessary in the mite game. I've watched a lot of your bee videos and I always learn something else new from them. You guys are doing so much good in this realm! Keep going. You have certainly earned my subscription. I wish I could subscribe more than once to this channel!!!
@ashleyvalles1256 Жыл бұрын
so does this work?
@desmondsimmons14367 жыл бұрын
I have been using the battery power units you load up a tray and stick in the bottom of hive for two years now. The bees have been doing great but takes over hour to treat 25 hives in one yard. I am going to order one of these set ups and start using it next month. Thanks for sharing the video.
@honeybeesinjapan7 жыл бұрын
I just got this whole set up but Im in Japan. I had top get a special adaptor so I could attach the propane tank. Im having a little problem getting the fogger to stay lit. But the treatment was fast. I treated 12 hives in about an hour and that included mixing the oxalic acid and taking off the hornet traps. We have giant Japanese hornets here. They are a nightmare.
@garyshaffer686 жыл бұрын
To clean the fogger run some water mixed with baking soda when u are done.
@felipegomez50847 жыл бұрын
Hello, I have that kind of fogger since last season and I use oxalic acid and glicerin (liquit) , it is true, it is a very cheap and quick method and bees looks ok after treatment but With "my mites" (I live in Chile South America ) I had to increase much more the dosis (800 g O. A. / litre glycerin) to kill mites in a good rate. I'd like to see an alcohol wash test before and after treatment. My concern is also the effect on very young bee larve. Anyway, good video Keep posting Kind regards from Chile 🐝🇨🇱🐝🇨🇱🐝🇨🇱🐝🇨🇱🐝🇨🇱🇨🇱🐝🇨🇱🐝🇨🇱🐝🇨🇱
@morganfrmn6 жыл бұрын
I like the idea of glycerin. It would smoke well
@juanrenesantocrisostomo32846 жыл бұрын
Hola Felipe. tengo ese sublimador, traté con 100 ml de alcohol al 95% y 25 gramos de acido oxalico, aveces se incendiaba en la piquera cuando la acercas demasiado, además de que no sublima bien, no sale bien sublimado. quiero verificar con oxalico y glicerina, estuve buscando las proporciones de la mezcla y eres la única persona que lo ha descrito. te agradecería si me envias el link de alguna pagina donde se pueden ver las proporciones de las mezclas además de tus conocimientos.
@yumaprisoner6 жыл бұрын
I have just purchased the Black Flag/Burgess fogger. In the literature it clearly states, "The fogger is a dispenser of insecticides. Results obtained are directly related to the insecticide used. In order to produce a fog, the insecticide must have the proper oil base. Black Flag® Fogging Insecticide Formula 2 has the proper oil base. Do not use emulsifiable concentrate or other materials designed to be mixed with water." Use with alcohol has been reported here to cause internal parts to become brittle. Since neither water or alcohol are effective lubricants, would not mixing oxalic acid with glycerin and/or mineral oil be suggested for extending the life of the fogger?
@loganv04106 жыл бұрын
A good respirator is important. The right filter is what's critical. Wrong filter = useless equipment. NIOSH and OSHA require a N100, R100, or P100 filter Don't use anything else or anything less. Some filters are effectively useless against oxalic acid fume.
@chrisbgarrett6 жыл бұрын
A year later using this fogger, If I’m treating 75 hives, I put 150grams of OA,150grams of ever clear, and 75grams of food grade glycerin in an old pickle jar and heat on stove in a frying pan of water stirring until clears up. Have fogger on lowest setting to just keep flame on and pump trigger until smoke,then count 2 strong puffs on 5 frame nucs, and 5 on double 8 frame boxes. Makes it closer to the recommended 2grams per hive. Don’t count a puff until you see smoke. You must rinse the gun and cycle a jar of water thru the gun after use with flame on until you don’t see smoke or you use 1/2 a jar of water. do wear rubber gloves because jar will leak on you. Still a good kill.😉
@wendicoker56116 жыл бұрын
Ordered all my stuff today! Thank you !
@mikecain57636 жыл бұрын
Have you checked the resulting fog temperature to make certain it is not too hot i.e. too hot and it will break down oxalic acid into formic acid and carbon monoxide ( NO)? Have you done alcohol wash to check effectiveness? PLEASE LET ME KNOW. Thanks, mike
@Noahsoak3 жыл бұрын
How could you measure that??
@TheGoodHeart10002 жыл бұрын
Can’t thank you enough for all you do-no words can express my appreciation.
@ashleyvalles1256 Жыл бұрын
did this work for you?
@HermanoToro4 жыл бұрын
Anyone using this method? Never seen it before and I like it!
@thehoneybeegarden31497 жыл бұрын
Definitely clean/rinse the white pump pick up tube after each use. If you don't it will become very brittle. The parts are only $10 to replace but a hassle to get. I didn't have a good kill rate using the fogger. It works, but for me it wasn't close to 100%. Could have been the pump pick up was damaged.
@TheRainHarvester2 жыл бұрын
Good to know! Thanks! What do you use now?
@chuckerickson5921 Жыл бұрын
You might mention flushing the fogger out with straight alcohol or something after treating the hives! I bought one and it worked great...once! Now I have to see if I can take it apart and clean it out,
@BobSell7 жыл бұрын
Hey David, as always thank you for the great videos! Im a little confused about your recipe and have one question: How do you set your scale to measure the alcohol in milliliters when milliliters is a volume measure? Does your scale know how much 100 ml of grain alcohol weighs? Thanks again for your videos. I'm learning a ton from you!
@memguy381176 жыл бұрын
go to liquor store and ask a 1/2 pint of PGA...200 ml bottle is what they will give you
@AndrewBrunsch6 жыл бұрын
I believe the scale assumes 1g/ml, you should be able to convert to recipe straight across to grams. Good luck!
@mikewilson97666 жыл бұрын
The scale assumes you are measuring water, so "100 ml" on the scale is really 127 ml of the alcohol. Should help others duplicate the results if they measure the alcohol by volume.
@dburton79296 жыл бұрын
Bob Sell Good catch. I'm glad you asked that question, I wanted to ask the same question 😎
@num2in576 жыл бұрын
How do you know you are getting 100% kill of mites?
@stephen264484 жыл бұрын
I've also seen you can mix the acid in distilled water instead of alcohol, what is your thought about that
@antonsteger48427 жыл бұрын
David, I appreciate your swift comment returns. My 2nd Question is have you herdof any built up resistance with either oxalic acid or mineral oil treatments?
@kjbush15783 жыл бұрын
Awesome and very informative video! I am actually getting started with beekeeping and am currently located in Medellin, Colombia. Quick question...do I treat my honey supers as well?
@robertdeflora417 күн бұрын
Its been a while since you posted this video and I was wondering how your mite levels have been? Does this method work and keep them low? This is the method I am going to try.
@bruceblair4196 жыл бұрын
David, I caught a large swarm and put them in a 10 frame hive. Is it advisable to use oxcilic as treatment before the hive get going?
@grantwillings5 жыл бұрын
Have you continued this method with fogger and continued to have success?
@hilldaflyer4593Ай бұрын
Same question.
@blackberry590816 күн бұрын
@@hilldaflyer4593 same question but no one give updates sadly
@hilldaflyer459316 күн бұрын
@@blackberry5908 I've asked around and the closest answer I've gotten is that the fogger is not an approved method of delivery. With the battery opperated Instant Vap and ProVap, the delivery system is approved and so I doubt others will advocate to use a "non-approved" delivery system on a public forum.
@charles.66915 жыл бұрын
Some people use formic acid mixed diesel alcohol, but this effect does not seem to be very good. They say that direct injection of formic acid is more effective and in the absence of eggs. Another method uses formic acid mixed with sublimed sulfur and blown into the box.
@1amder3 жыл бұрын
Did I miss something? Are all these hives without the supers when you applied treatment?
@suehooker13296 жыл бұрын
David hello, another beginner question please. In California 190 proof Everclear is illegal and there is a few places that have a bottle of 150 proof Everclear still left on the shelf. Will the 150 proof still work or be as effective? Maybe a simple question but just want to make sure not to make any mistakes. (Any more mistakes!) Again thank you for your time and help with all that are trying to get started in the bee business. Best Regards
@suehooker13296 жыл бұрын
David thank you for your quick and helpful answer as always!
@BizTailer6 ай бұрын
Ever tried a green drone screen. Mites prefer the drone bee becasue they incubate longer and can hatch more mites. So get you a $5 green drone frame place it 3 away from ctr of hive and put it in the freezer just before the drones hatch each time they fill it. No chemical option. Works well.
@suehooker13296 жыл бұрын
Hello David always appreciate all your videos. Am using your rapid feeders now. One question please about the oxalis acid treatment. Can you do it in the winter (now) if temperatures are 60 degrees and above. We live in California where there is no snow or no extreme freezing temperatures. Would like to treat now if possible. Thanks again
@Nephilen20307 жыл бұрын
I also found the black flag unit you were talking about on Amazon. I guess the two biggest differences would be the click starter like on a grill and you pour your fluid into the machine not using a jar. I am going to purchase one of those foggers. I'm leaning toward the one in your video because the jar would give me the ability to use different types of chemicals.
@amathonn7 жыл бұрын
You don't use screened bottom boards? You might mention how to use this application with folks that do.
@CreatedMind5 жыл бұрын
You slide a board under the screen to seal it off.
@notsunkyet4 жыл бұрын
Please excuse my ignorance, I am new to the idea of beekeeping, it is so fascinating! I was thinking that if you don't want to breathe this stuff being the size of a human, out in the open air, what chance do the bees have? Also, doesn't this stuff get into the brood, wax and the honey as well? I did hear that bees breathe through spiracles, like most insects, and not like we do, but breathing is breathing. Thanks much.
@cossvp6 жыл бұрын
Hi David, i'm a newbie to honey bee keeping, I lost several hives in the severe 2017 December freeze. I love the videos, i started fogging last spring with the mineral oil, but i still have some mites, my question is, " do you have to use the 190 alcohol with the acid or could it be added to water or even heated mineral oil" and "can i use this method on a regular basis through out the year"? .
@laurendoninger26934 жыл бұрын
I was all set to try this method and the state bee inspector said absolutely not to use it. Just buy the pan and do the vaporizer - no alcohol at all.
@beebob12796 жыл бұрын
Dave, grain alcohol in a fogger? Isn't there a concern of fire with this stuff? How is this working for you? Have you done mite counts after the treatments? 50 to60 dollars for a fogger is nothing compared to the cost of those other mite treatments.
@beebob12796 жыл бұрын
Thanks for getting back to me so quickly. I'll be trying this in the spring. Maybe on a nice day this early winter I'll give it a go. It's so fast I can't believe it. Just the prep work looks like a little time but that's it.
@mescalp7 жыл бұрын
It's 100 percent on the bees in the hive but not on the capped larvae where most of the mites reside or the bees not in the hive
@Arnd2it7 жыл бұрын
It can be very close to 100% if done in the winter when there is no brood production and all the bees are in the hive. A good way to start out the new year.
@johnathanpeer37075 жыл бұрын
The point he was getting at is that it breaks up the life cycle.
@stephen264484 жыл бұрын
That's why you do it once a week for 4 weeks to insure you get those during the complete brood cycle
@FunnyBugBeesandWoodWorks7 жыл бұрын
grain alcohol is an organic neurotoxin, have you noticed any problems using it as the carrier for the OA. specifically with accidental queen kills?
@FunnyBugBeesandWoodWorks7 жыл бұрын
seems like DW might be the better choice. No risk of over-intoxication of queen or bees resulting in small die-off. Regardless, good info. Thanks.
@FloryJohann6 жыл бұрын
DW. what is that?
@rogerjodoin5056 жыл бұрын
J & B Homeliving dw is distilled water
@FloryJohann6 жыл бұрын
Thank you Roger for the clarification.
@RajinderSingh-cz7tt5 жыл бұрын
You guys doing bit hard work then us I leaving carins QLD Australia far north tropical we haven't this problem finger cross it stay safe hear. Tks for really good information
@gayandonamarasinghe81664 жыл бұрын
Nice video. Thanks for sharing. How would you do this treatment when in the honey flowing season?
@Bluenote26004 жыл бұрын
Does this guy have any idea how to handle Oxalic Acid? Yes it works but hes pretty cavalier about mixing in his kitchen with food and ingestation. Make no misunderstanding this stuff is dangerous and should be handled properly and with protective equipment. If you care about your own health, vision, body.
@markarnill3437 Жыл бұрын
Me again I am in my 4 year of beekeeping and always used oxalic acid in a vaporiser I see your way of using oxalic acid with alcohol and thought that it would be easier instead of the way that I am doing it with a vaporiser I use gasVap and was thinking you’re fog Machine it’s far easier to do more hives
@markkilpatrick85016 жыл бұрын
OK Ive got a huge apology to give you ..I was going on the sound of the fogger .. BUT,,, since then i decided to try in stead of calcimines the fogger way .. A n your totally wright an iam sorry for jumping without looking first. love your videos. keep up the good work.
@lauramroberts077 жыл бұрын
What does that do to your honey, I mean if you have to wear a mask and gloves to handle it, it can't be good for your honey.
@lauramroberts077 жыл бұрын
Ok, thanks for the quick reply.
@diannaboykin76287 жыл бұрын
Some states require removal of honey before treatment
@jimf19646 жыл бұрын
Dianna Boykin I'm a know nothing person here to learn. I find it hard to believe there would be no residue or Off taste to the honey if it wasn't removed first?
@SkirnirW6 жыл бұрын
It's not that bad. In Vapor-form, Oxalic acid dissipates rather quickly and has nowhere NEAR the kind of concentration necessary to reach short-term exposure limits. As an Anhydrous Acid, it's primary solubility is in Alcohol/Alcohol Derivatives, meaning it's not going to bond to moisture in or around the hive. As such, it's not going to "taint" the honey, let alone be capable of penetrating the wax-caps over the honey cells. It's perfectly safe unless you spray it UNDILUTED in HEAVY AMOUNTS around people/pets without respirators. www.sciencelab.com/msds.php?msdsId=9926346
@SkirnirW6 жыл бұрын
That does NOT mean that it CAN'T cause harm. The effects of toxicity from over-exposure to Oxalic Acid can damage your nervous system, damage your kidneys, devastate your respiratory system and more. Just like Radiation; Know the exposure limit, take preventative measures to limit your own exposure and those around you, and make sure you use an amount that does NOT harm anything around the intended target.
@JustMe-JustBecause6 жыл бұрын
Since milliliters is a fluid unit of measure, how can to tell by weight unless you know the specific gravity of the fluid you are weighing? I’m asking because most kitchen scales have pounds or grams.
@greghouchin45944 ай бұрын
What I was thinking.....it's best to measure the volume of liquid in a calibrated beaker or something
@THEODORBARKULAS250127 жыл бұрын
Very good video. I would like to ask with the use of oxalic bush over once can there be a problem with the bride of the queen? The use of alcohol can cause somebody to get upset with fire?
@shunette2 жыл бұрын
Hello, I tried this last year and it worked great! I still have a jar of the solution left from last year. Can I use this or do I need to make a new batch?
What do you do with the leftover mixture?? Does it separate during if you store the leftover mixture??
@Extreme_exotics3 жыл бұрын
Does it’s effects honey?
@josephvogel72344 жыл бұрын
There are a lot of legitimate questions here that haven't been answered. I like that this process looks very convenient but before we jump on the idea, how about some facts. Did you compare numbers before and after. What was the effect on the brood. Remove honey supers? (yes) It is easy! Is it effective? Must use it at least a full brood cycle. Three weeks is not long enough.
@allanmorgan5660 Жыл бұрын
I'm surprised no one made a comment on your veiws .most times efficient treatments go under the radar .we all try to complicate things ,making it more difficult than it should bee.most great or good ideas come from people who try things in the real world .sure it's early but development starts here .like the saying goes create a problem make it more complicated than it is ,make laws to prevent ,then sell or talk about the solutions which are money making opportunities . Create a problem , create a cure make good to see . Meanwhile some go broke .making some people very happy indeed .
@johanlindeberg730411 ай бұрын
Have you made any measurements on the number of mites killed? Any research done on this method ?
@anneniles31563 жыл бұрын
Where did you get the grain alcohol and why heat it up before use?
@serget52053 жыл бұрын
How many puffs would you recommend for singles and deeps? Thanks so much for sharing!
@cordovanbee7137 жыл бұрын
How many years has someone used a fogger like this,or is this a first year experiment that seems to work ? Looks good thanks
@williamsummers64382 жыл бұрын
The varroa mite is easily dealt with by hive design. If you keep your bees in thin walled hives with all the environmental integrity of a cardboard box the varroa mite will thrive. Change that and the mite will fade away. It is well known that the varroa mite does not do well in a humid environment. (The precise mechanism is not known to me). If you put the bee entrance at the top of the brood chamber immediately below the queen excluder a VIBEZ (Ventilated Integrated Bee Entry Zone) is formed and this will serve to make the brood chamber a humid bucket. The only hive type that has this top entry and ventilation is the ZEST hive. If the pupation time of the bees can be reduced this will reduce the time available for the varroa mites to mature in the brood resulting in the exponential collapse of the varroa population. Individual pupa temperature varies over time of day and brood position. Above 37C. the pupa die. Below 29C. the pupa die. At 35C. it takes 10-11 days to hatch. At 31C. it takes it takes 14-15 days to hatch. 35C. is ideal. Winter time is varroa breeding heaven. Ideally the colony external enclosure will be of an insulated material that also has a thermal weight that carries the heat of the day into the cool of the night and the cool of the night back into the heat of the day. Aerated concrete blocks are ideal having a 39 times better R value than a thin walled hive and 19 times that of a polyhive. The ZEST DIY hive is functionally free of varroa together with the maladies and morbidities that it carries. It enables in honeybees diseases such as Nosema, Acarine and DWV. EFB and EFB have never been reported, but that may be because it is relatively rare. As a proof of concept you can adopt these hive design management techniques to see for yourself the truth of them.
@bnv42925 жыл бұрын
See I was wondering why not do the treatment at night when all the bees are available for treatment
@shuiqlazam4 жыл бұрын
i believe he's going after the ones inside the comb with the still developing broad. Plus he said treat every 3 weeks - that will dramatically drop down the mites over time.
@Pulvilli6 жыл бұрын
I would like to see the hives you have treated 15 mins later to see how many bees died. Did the oxalic acid on your skin over the course of this treament give you any irritation?
@MrBobberino015 жыл бұрын
What temperature outside do you suggest you treat at? I assume during winter, it can stay pretty cold. Is it OK to treat when it is 45* outside?
@karokalpakyan63117 жыл бұрын
Hello, I have enjoyed watching your videos. My question is can you treat mineral Oil this way with honey suppers on? Is there a mite treatment that can be used with honey on?
@cricketscorner65147 жыл бұрын
Have you heard anything about the alcohol eating up the probe on the fogger?
@garyhaley30723 жыл бұрын
I am amazed this doesn't have a adverse effect on the bees
@edlpar4 жыл бұрын
I tried the burgess fogger and it does not produce enough OA fog... i gave it plenty of time to warm up and it fogs a little, not enough!!! I am going back to a traditional OA pan hooked to a battery. At least then I know they are getting the right dosage.
@raymason6474 Жыл бұрын
David this is an old video I am wondering if you have changed anything in the way you are treating, are you still treating like this, if the insect fogger is holding up or if the acid makes its life short ?
@FloryJohann6 жыл бұрын
With all that alcohol you must be trying to get those mites trunk, so they fall off the wagon train.
@danielbuss9423 жыл бұрын
well i just did mine two days ago two days later did it again and no mites where present on the second time great deal
@tatkinsful5 жыл бұрын
Is honey still good for human consumption after oxalic acid treatment ? If so how long after treatment ?
@dianeking12 жыл бұрын
As of 4/12/22, is this still your preferred method of treating mites? PLEASE RESPOND ASAP. Thanks
@davidhaught842 жыл бұрын
We use the provap 110 using oxalic acid now.
@enstreetbees99686 жыл бұрын
Thanks for all the great videos David. I will be getting 2 nuc's 4/14 they supplier does not treat. I will of course and will be monitoring mite count with sugar shake. what would you recommend as the best way to start MAQS was what I planned after the colonies had settled in. I live zone 9a so temps will be perfect. if you agree how long after the Nuc's are installed would you say to wait to use the strips? thanks gain
@robertclymer69484 жыл бұрын
I wonder how hot the gas is that comes out of the fogger???? It didn't seem to kill the bees in front of the gas...??????
@OTG4144 жыл бұрын
Grain alcohol in a propane fogger?...😳🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
@frankcorbett62276 жыл бұрын
Hi David Frank here from Ireland got one from wall mart cant get jar to fit it in ireland didnt use it yet will try it with yellow container
@altonphillips56142 жыл бұрын
Have you had any issues using a short propane bottle with your fogger
@ORO1585 жыл бұрын
I read that this method can be used with distilled water ! Is it better than alcohol ?
@ThePureUSA6 жыл бұрын
My question is can you still use the honey inside the beehive if you smoke them with this kind of chemical?
@montyrackley6124 жыл бұрын
Does the acid corrupt the honey? And also does the mineral oil? Also Did you say this had to be repeated every day for 3 weeks?
@Irene-ke6to2 жыл бұрын
This video is now 4 years old. I would love to know if you still use this method and how it has worked for you since you made this. I haven't seen any responses from David yet, so I'm not anticipating an answer....
@simplifygardening6 жыл бұрын
Hi David I am looking for the connection size for the propane as I am struggling to find the cylinders in the uk. any ideas
@petersplat61642 жыл бұрын
Why use an alcohol? It doesn't sound healthy to me. Can you just use water?
@Filam1114 жыл бұрын
Would mite problem be lesser in a tropical climate like the Philippines?
@framcesmoore6 жыл бұрын
I got this and did it, it was easy thanks, can u refill the gas or do u trow it away. can the bees be in cluster when u apply this. I ask this because of the dribble method thanks David good video. Have a great day Merry Christmas
@stephaniehawes286 жыл бұрын
Hey Frances. My husband bought a little gadget on one of that Wish app for refilling out bottle....wish I could attach a photo!
@rechellianos20497 жыл бұрын
last 2 weeks I used powder sugar and noticed a good amount of mites on some of the sticky boards..i cleaned the sticky boards, applied the OA as u show here...waiting to see what the boards look like now... hoping for the best....
@diannaboykin76287 жыл бұрын
I am extremely interested in your results, I applied sugar on one hive a few days ago, and will again, but have seen very few drop, a lot less than was on the board before the sugar was applied... I worry it may not be helping much.. PLEASE let us know
@rechellianos20497 жыл бұрын
I had gave my bees a pretty good powder sugar dusting( PS.) probably more then necessary. the hives that had heavy PS mite drops also had very heavy mite drops when I used the oxalic acid. in fact I was shocked the amount of mites on a couple of the hives. most of the hives had a very light drop . a few had none.. today I cleaned all the sticky boards and am treating the ones with drops again. we will see.. I am curious if fogger is as good as the vapor method??? i will say fogger is fast and easy..will let u know how the second treatment goes.
@diannaboykin76287 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the update, I'm thinking it may be what I need to do.. they need time to recover before winter sets in, and about 1/2 of the leaves here are already down..
@rechellianos20497 жыл бұрын
well I just checked this morning. 24 hrs latter. 12 hives.. 3 had no drop. 6 had 3 to 5.... 3 had maybe 10 . so i think next week i will treat those three with OA the rest im not going to treat with it I will just try the powder sugar then I'm done for winter with mites. . for sure going to add this to my weaponry. thanks Barnyarnd bees for ur help...
@mickeybryan97325 жыл бұрын
David, is it ok to treat while the bee feeders are inside the hive or should i remove them prior to fogging? Thank you.
@tpaige997 жыл бұрын
Nice video, David. I cannot buy 190 proof Everclear in my state, but I can buy 151 proof. Will that work? Thanks in advance if you have an answer.
@selfrelianthomestead7842 Жыл бұрын
Is it possible to save any of the left over mix in the jar?
@lyndonjohnson54475 жыл бұрын
Would like to know if you still use this method. And wondered why water couldn’t replace alcohol?
@northernmichiganbee-man31366 жыл бұрын
How long can you save whats left in the bottle for the next use? As I would never use that much on all my hives. Thanks
@DrBestforyou7 жыл бұрын
I would like to know if your fogger got clogged after this procedure. Oxalic acid crystallizes after a while.
@builderPaul4182 жыл бұрын
Will using older left over mixture be harmful to the bees??
@chrisboggsfmc16 жыл бұрын
Dave. I'm having a problem with the Burgess foggers in that the oxcilac acid is resolving the pump kit. Are you having the same problem? If not what are you doing? If so what are you doing other than replacing the pump kit? Thanks
@mallard1867 жыл бұрын
So what is the difference between this and using the heater in the hive? Or do you use both?
@rb32654 жыл бұрын
David how many treatments to you give for spring ,dearth and fall