How To Rolling Techno Basslines Like a Pro

[@fridayishighday8016]

Yeah alright but why is he talking into a BBQ Lighter?

[@JaydedWun]

It's a vape pen bro

[@fridayishighday8016]

@@JaydedWun I honestly hope you are kidding if not this is next level r/whooosh

[@JaydedWun]

@@fridayishighday8016 is that the noise the vape pen makes?

[@fridayishighday8016]

@@JaydedWun Mate its a microphone not a vape pen why would anyone film a video talking about music production while holding a vape pen. I was making a joke of that but you didnt get it haha

[@JaydedWun]

@@fridayishighday8016 If it's a microphone then why is he holding it? This makes no sense

[@keithkilpatrick1651]

I know this one is 3 years old, but this video is perfect!! Taught me exactly what I was looking for

I've been producing music for the past 12 years and ghostproducing for a living for the last 6 and I have to say, your channel is amazing. I'm really glad I found you, the videos are very informative and enternaining and makes us realize that we will never know everything. It's great to watch and share the different ideas and knowledge / ways to make something sound like what we want. I'll be here from now on, keep up!

[@MarvJoo]

Do you know which serum preset i need for rolling magic 2? This rolling Bass makes me crazy 😂😂

[@memeyselfandi]

Just went to a techno rave yesterday and thought about starting to make this music. Perfect timing for these tutorials, very much appreciated!

[@kaizen5415]

bingo_id been messing w/ ableton @ r&b / electro / pop_but around 2019 i stumbled upon a spotify playlist 'berghain techno' & found UMEK_& i was like WTF is this_fast-forward saw Charlotte_Enrico_Onyaa live @ Halloween radius warehouse on massive sound system_while rolling😍_& something changed in me that nite_now & especially w/ the urgency of the current agenda we're facing where theyre tryna collapse us from all angles we need to surivive_supply chain_energy resources_bank currency_im just devoting the rest of my life to striking at least 1 viral anthem like 'levels'..'animals'..'deep end remix' 'doittoit'..'ferrari'..they all quantum leaped str8 to the mainstage circuit after just 1 track breakthru_so that's the mission 💫

[@Michal_S0L]

this guy has the best no bullshit videos, all the important things you need to know

[@prafullvilas1931]

one of the best tutorials-- you not only show how the thing works but you give the confidence to play around with it. Thank you so much.

[@derwiederentfachtermannith3863]

Ive been watching a ton of tuts on techno bass lines ; yours is one of the top 3 in terms of following. Along . I can duplicate and experiment with what you showed and study it . Thank You

[@itsmebarz9859]

youre the man! I always make sure to support you by buying your packs, one of the most REAL content on eletronic music, thanks Zen! greetings from Saint Gabriel

[@ZenWorld]

Sorry for shitty recording audio in the intro I got the wrong mic to record commentary...... Enjoy and respect the space of your basslines. HAPPY SATURDAY! Last example was shit but hope the rest helped!

[@igorCOD4ever]

You make the most useful techno tutorial for me. I learned a lot because what you do often is what I'm trying to achieve so when I watch your tutorials I always go back into my studio with a solution to my problem. Thank You.

[@caizeach9239]

im typically a hip hop producer but this really surprised and inspired me. cool sounds man!

[@AnalogKitchen]

Class! Is you talking into a calibration mic there haha

[@hypersphere4047]

If you really want to do it like a pro you maybe should align the phase of the first harmonic of your 1. bass step with the phase of the kick Dunno what I mean? Look it up, pretty important ;)

[@jnowyj]

You're videos are fantastic bud, appreciate the work you put in.

[@mbsta467]

Hey Zen! Ive seen other techno tutorials where they don't add a sub and they put reverb and delay on the kick and compress the shit out of the kick to get that BOOM BOOM techno rumble, what do you think about this?

[@PaulChabot]

Right kit and right bassline, spoken into a measurement microphone... :P All jokes aside, its a perfect example of use what you have available to you. My mentor said to me, "Don't chase gear. Use what you have. " Constraints nurture creativity.

[@zchrader]

Reverb, high pass, and ping pong on a duplicate kick gives hella rummmmble, guru.

[@DJFTLM]

I gotta try that one. Thank you for that info there kind sir 👍

[@tamperehotline]

@@DJFTLM low pass*

[@zaabimahdi]

@@tamperehotline maybe simple delay(3) instead of ping pong Delay //...

[@sudo-bandit]

Damn have to try that, sounds juicy af

[@luigideff]

yea that works great and its widely used

[@Vandalsounds]

Well. That is a psy bass.

[@TrooperFX]

hahaha yea

[@Vandalsounds]

Selfspot Don’t be shy, feel free to post a link. I can’t think of anything I’d call techno that have that kind of bass. But I mean it’s kind of a fluid line sometimes between genres, but you made me curious. 😊😉

[@Vandalsounds]

Selfspot Perhaps I’m to anal about this, but in my book most of your examples fall in to the regions of tech house / melodic tech. Either way, to use some kind of a rolling 16th bass is pretty much sop in many different kinds of electronic music. Im not discussing the technique as much as the sound, and that in the vid my friend is a psy bass. 😉 When I’m talking techno, I’m talking: kzbin.info/www/bejne/oJa6cnt3rtGSoLM kzbin.info/www/bejne/q4bbkoKOfMSShbs kzbin.info/www/bejne/lWbJXoiKoLl6fKc kzbin.info/www/bejne/iZqQg5ipfrOkbrc kzbin.info/www/bejne/maa3pZiFnKl5hrc kzbin.info/www/bejne/lZfZpKGodtOegbs kzbin.info/www/bejne/hJCrdnqQl9-nhtU kzbin.info/www/bejne/hIvRlIeCr8mYaac

[@Vandalsounds]

Selfspot Dude. Defected is like the mother of all house labels. That is like as pure house as it gets. 😊 Toolroom, yes, some tech house. Anyhow. I got some tech house tunes I didn’t hear before and you got some good examples of “real” techno. Cheers mate! 🤙

[@Kung_Fu_Jesus]

Real techno doesn’t sound like this. This is just a simple trance bass line. Techno is experimentation not formula.

[@jaymcgeehan5521]

This reminds me of Boris brejcha - I take it smart ... Which is an amazing song so very well done sir 👏

[@ThePeoplesFriend510]

much love.. learned a lot... and i've learned you can most def have multiple basslines if eq'd and mixed properly.. thanks again dude

[@mikaelholmstrom2513]

Ever tested out a sustained note and then freeze it to audio, and then use the fades to make a nice shape for sidechain? Sometimes it makes it much more cleaner and clicks are easy to fade out to 100%.

[@josephverdins6921]

Can you use automated pitch bends to help it roll as well ?

[@omsloki2644]

nice tutorial dude, u should really dabble in some High-Tech minimal techno, something in the style of Boris Brejcha

[@psykonauta]

Great tutorial!

[@fededj2002]

Where can I find that sample library where you took the kick loop from?...It sounds massive!

[@Epicsburg]

Just found out you're finally doing Techno, binge watching everything rn. Thanks Zenpai

[@gersoneliabantotorres632]

Thank you so much for all these incredible tips, Zen World Sensei!!

[@alangalbiati4311]

Hi, which sample pack is the kick from pleeease?

[@felippeyann]

That's a nice tutorial.. Thanks... You should make a Romanian Minimal...

[@thorhokson8278]

Yo Zen, make a Boris Brejcha tutorial!

[@masis3256]

i was about to comment for this!

[@mathiasf.bjordammen1037]

Yea please! Particularily those really tight and squelchy percussion elements he does.

[@nervz3837]

Production Music Live actually has really good template on that

[@joshsinclair539]

I agree!

[@BrkrBoy962]

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[@OfficialDjSideAffex]

AMAZING ARTIST YOU ARE THANKYOU ,! KEEP KILLING IT!

[@Wolfdings]

Love LFO Tool but never ever used it to shape this wisely! Great eye opener! Thanks

[@MrPandemicalert]

SONG ID-Fisher Losing It

[@Birdkokane]

Great Tutorial. i use FL Studio and it applies to that DAW as well ( know thou DAW :) ) love the rollin' bass and the suggestion to dare to experiment outside the box and come up with great sounds!

[@connectfour3355]

love you bro but why are you talking into the sonarworks reference mic

[@ThomasCoastline]

Paul Thomas - Vyote - this kind of pluck starting from the beginning and Stan Kolev - Phases this kind of rollingbass and fill synth which sounds like an analog with slow attack on filter and with some subsocilator.

[@BillytheBolter]

So were you gonna go over the rest of the sound design for your kick sub or what?

[@nissimtrifonov5314]

2:23 Dude, a filter will not do anything to a sine wave whatsoever, because a pure sine has literally zero harmonics. At most, if the filter frequency is close to the sine frequency it can change the volume of the sine but never the timbre.

[@Bollingersound]

thats what im sayin!

[@somnambulantable]

Assuming it's actually a true, pure sine wave... they often aren't. Still going to be pretty minimal difference. I thought the exact same thing, fwiw. :)

[@RaskyMusic]

notice how there are knobs other than the freq cutoff. the drive, fatness, and resonance will all change the sound of the sine wave.

[@clementm8407]

this isn't true for a gated sine-wave however, which actually has several harmonics, essentially as a consequence of the uncertainty principle.

[@Iwantapplez109]

plus he's using LFOTool to decrease the decay of the kick when he could have done it using the fade out in ableton

[@tyskstil]

More of Physics / mathematics question really, but sine wave through a low pass filter seems like it would still just be a sine wave, possibly of lower amplitude?

[@agnidevacenter]

thanks for your time, I like your video. I have a question: I dont have Serum, how I can get the bass sound like you make without Serum!? sound really cool.

[@lewt7594]

Best settings for basslines with just ableton stock?

[@avationmusic]

If you gonna gonna work on this bank, look to bodzin for sounds (obviously) but also township rebellion, John lead, Keith carnal, and definitely Maceo plex!!!

[@GuidoSanten]

Is that the sonarworks calibration mic?

[@skylinedivetribe2638]

Awesome video, thanks!

[@mannymurillo26]

Awesome advice bro! Thx

[@SuperExtremeGamingDK]

What is the song in the back ground at 0:13

[@MomasBoyOnline]

Finally some techno videos, this is great!

[@ericdesarmia8852]

Well done, great tutorial !

[@jl9205]

Zen, I just spent about 2 hours following along, recreating all this stuff, fiddling around with LFO Tool, shaping envelopes between sounds, tweaking Serum envelopes, and about dozen lightbulbs went on. This was time very well spent for me. I really appreciate these tips. It's geeky and not very sexy stuff, but the results will make any producer a bona fide Love Machine. I could feel the grooves just fall in place and really take shape. These basics are so essential and will really help me out. Great stuff!

[@kaizen5415]

was it 'time very well spent' tho'? lemme ask you_did you release any tracks as a result of those hours of geeking & tweeking? i suppose every guy has different goals_for some its just its a bedroom hobby_for others they want the mainstage glory or nothin'_for others they just wanna be famous to get girls_have you turned those hours of tweeking into any official tracks & shared 'em with anyone

[@jl9205]

@@kaizen5415 I'm looking to use your stuff as a reference track.

[@seanmendis2500]

Hey Zen is the sub bass preset you use in this in your techno bank which you just released? I got it but I cant seem to find "rumble sub" in it

[@seanmendis2500]

@zenworld

[@KMtvEntertainment]

Whats up with that mic ?

[@ZenWorld]

i fucked up and got the SONARWORKS MIC which distorted the shit out of the mic entry and I was too lazy to re=record

[@Andrewkcollins]

@@ZenWorld ayy sonarworks is super dank tho

[@necrosismusik7109]

wait I thought it was an ecig lmao

[@florianstrobel9065]

Really cool thanks for this creativ ideas

[@bertbing3406]

Excellent tut! Thanks!

[@JayThomasofficial]

omg IM ALWAYS LOOKING FOR THIS VIDEO AND I NEVER FIND ONE THAT IS EXPLAINED THIS WELL THANK YOU!! YOURE THE MAN/!!

[@benjaminaustnesnarum3900]

LFOTool is amazing. Glad to see it in good use!

[@DJFTLM]

So many good little nuggets of info in this one. Thumbs way up. Learned ALOTTT from this one 😁😁😁

[@alife8903]

YES, THIS IS IT ZEN

[@YoYoYoghurt4]

very inspiring video bro ;)

[@jeromemarani]

The video I'm searching for years!

[@ConnWilliams]

this is pure gold

[@johnrexpadillo1174]

Zen thanks for your tutorials. So helpful. But can we? After this pack, next pack is all about hardstyle and hardstyle tutorials aside from the 2 you made and free 20 serum presets for hardstyle. This must be more watched

[@4umata]

Cool vid, just wondering about that last section how is that a bassline if you are cutting it from 1khz below?

[@saintnicholas5507]

One of your best videos good work, covered all variants, 'what else can we do with the rolling bass' part two please

[@dominicjackson6591]

Supposed to techno bassline?

[@vaiperprod2038]

Is it cubase? what version ? What kind of program please tell me((((

[@andresalas4696]

PAPI ZEN BACK AT IT AGAIN

[@michelebianchi7697]

which plugin do you use to create the samples that are in your pack?

[@FynnJakobsen]

dude you’re incredible. happy yt put you on my frontpage

[@XtanceOfficial]

Oh yes! I am really looking forward to the upcoming Paradox techno soundset :) I'll support that for sure!

[@jimmywheelo]

top top video. You clearly know your stuff. I dont use some of the extra plug ins so some of it was tough to follow. But some great ideas too. Nice one

[@theoppositeofirony]

@Zen World is that acid sound from one of your packs?

[@ZenWorld]

Paradox!!!

[@DJFTLM]

ABDOLUTELY loving this video papi. Well done 👍😊

[@marcoviera3295]

Really cool video, thanks a lot

[@DjPrimeberry]

Amazing tutorial. Thanks

[@garethmillers5453]

Brilliant. So well explained. Thank you.

[@Otjmore]

Love the tutorials. Keep them coming.

[@Djderekm]

Wicked. Sounds like bart skills

[@kobesmet6358]

Does a fat heavy dark techno kick always need a bassline??

[@MiaAmareMusic]

wow i have learned so much in this 17 minutes - thank you!!!

[@GreatestSportsHighLights]

Dope work bruh! #BOSS

[@rafaellopez2134]

I LEARNED A LOT IN THSI TUTORIAL THANK YOU

[@guspolinski777]

With all these license/publishing websites like ditto, cdbaby and distrokid n such popping up nowadays it seems like it cant be that hard to keep everything in house just wondering if you had any insights on that subject.

[@GabrielGabriel-dx1he]

good one! would love to see you making a enrico sangiuliano like track!!!

[@nickrowell2651]

Question for you, or anyone else who wants to chime in. I see you use the EQ3 often, however I never really use it on my own because I feel like the EQ8 offers more precision. for this reason I never quite understand the attraction to the use of EQ3, although I do not doubt there is a good reason for its use. In what circumstances would you use the EQ3 over the EQ8 and why? Thanks!

[@Teoalterego91]

Hi Zen, I have a question: Is there a right volume relationship between kick and bass?

[@Basimilus]

Let the kick win is the advice Ive always heard.

[@xisotopex]

not only did I learn some useful info it also gave me some gas

[@XxiviAG1CxX]

@Zen World sensei, just a thought, instead of using Lfo tool could you also maybe use the beats algorithm, and adjust the transient in order to make the kick tighter?

[@seangill2413]

Zen you hitting the gym?!? Looking good bruh!

[@JulienEarle]

mans hitting the vape pen in the tutorial, legend

[@cowpie2915]

Time to get the pipe out on the next tutorial video my guy!

[@JulienEarle]

@@cowpie2915 gotta one up him, gonna pull out a 10 foot long bong

[@malteschwind3039]

Hi Zen a video about Maksim Dark´s style would be really intresting! Cheers

[@nataliapoloprutska1692]

This is dope imma try this!!

[@АлбертАйнщайн-з1р]

Nice tutorial

[@aprilkerry1100]

the rumble sub isnt included in the pack? whats the equivalent?

[@tomasllorcadj]

How can i make it without using serum??

[@AlejandroGuerrero]

So simple so effective thanks

[@bcnstrct6624]

I'm always down to learn something about producing rolling baselines.

[@Tukilos]

Man your video rock !

[@mateochugchilanpena3798]

Pls, make a bass for melodic techno !!

[@vinnyg6923]

good lookin out my dude!