Will this be the league, after 6 leagues, I finally take the time and effort to try and understand betrayal? Who knows, probably not.
@PathofEveningАй бұрын
No time like the present.
@catedoge320629 күн бұрын
yuh
@manbagan27 күн бұрын
Worst league to do it, since you don't actually get rewarded for knowing how betrayal works this league. just run catarina 83
@davidmaltais29127 күн бұрын
I have zero idea how betrayal works in terms of how to place members where they should be lol
@NerdonisАй бұрын
I see Path of Evening, I click. It's as simple as that. Great content as always!
@BoredFilthyPigАй бұрын
Pretty much. Dudes content is so much better than the other “bigger” dudes who condense everything to 10.5 mins to get that money and dip.
@PathofEveningАй бұрын
You rock! Thank you for joining us!
@kasccaАй бұрын
my man is on a mission appreciate all the content
@PathofEveningАй бұрын
Thank you. We're chugging along as fast as we can.
@randomly-genratedАй бұрын
I haven't seen this yet but I have absolutely no clue how betrayal works lol. Will be watching.
@PathofEveningАй бұрын
excellent
@albertakitesurferАй бұрын
Thanks for the video. I haven't played much betrayal since the rework. The old betrayal was fun setting up your board for useful results like white sockets, 30% quality, aisling veiled slam, etc. Under the new system, it feels hard nerfed. People were basically just rushing Katarina and the veiled orb drop rates were terrible so it didn't seem worth it. I'll watch and maybe give it another shot.
@PathofEveningАй бұрын
Yeah, the new betrayal is a lot simpler, and it's honestly not in the best state compared to a lot of other mechanics in terms of complexity, but it is still very rewarding.
@andro8284Ай бұрын
Thank you! Finally a comprehensive yet super informative guide. Gonna try Betrayal this league!
@PathofEveningАй бұрын
Glad it helped!
@conirhawk1067Ай бұрын
one thing i was looking for, and mybe missed, is how to i get a certain npc into a certain branch? for example if i want to get aisling as head of fortification for the rewards... what do i have to do? thanks
@PathofEveningАй бұрын
It's mostly reliant on the RNG of Betray options swapping NPC's around.
@aberwoodАй бұрын
I don't think I heard you mention recombinators. It might be worth unveiling rares for powerful mods and just filling up a quad stash with a set price like 20c.
@PathofEveningАй бұрын
Good idea. Stealing.
@daedalus6433Ай бұрын
@@PathofEveningEspecially on any of the new bases
@skyguy713Ай бұрын
Its been a while since Ive done Betrayal, around TotA, so its good to get a refresher and see whos worth farming now.
@skyguy713Ай бұрын
Also Taste of Loyalty, what a great name
@PathofEveningАй бұрын
Fun times
@WaggabagabooАй бұрын
I love Alva, Jun, and Heist. They are knowledge/experience filters on new players hiding behind a visage of complexity that drives prices up.
@PathofEveningАй бұрын
That's right!
@jacobreichert83620 күн бұрын
@@Waggabagaboo heist is just terrible. that drives prices up
@kjetilknyttnev3702Ай бұрын
I always run betrayal in the first week or so, simply to stack up on scarabs for the rest of it -and getting the veiled orbs is a nice bonus. The divine/h return is not too shabby when simply doing white and yellow maps to complete the atlas map, you unlock crafts and veiled mods, and the XP is perhaps the best per/h in the game for any content. It's just overall a very good start mechanic.
@PathofEveningАй бұрын
Yup, it's a really good all-around mechanic early!
@MyMetalMediaАй бұрын
Do you mind speaking more about the XP, as I've heard its great xp from a lot of people, but cant find info about exactly why. As I understand it, safehouses act like mini breachstones with all the mobs, but I've also heard interrogating the masters is also some nice flat xp?
@kjetilknyttnev3702Ай бұрын
@@MyMetalMedia Yes. I don't have the stats, but interrogating 3x3 masters during a map will roughly give you as much as the entire rest of the map alone. It's a "trust me bro" situation, but most people that runs betrayal agree.
@MyMetalMediaАй бұрын
@@kjetilknyttnev3702 Thanks for the info :) I assume it doesn't have to be specifically the "Interrogate" option we pick, options like "bargain" also give the xp?
@kjetilknyttnev3702Ай бұрын
@@MyMetalMedia I think any outcome gives XP, interrogate, bargain and execute, and release too I think.
@Vesp3r198725 күн бұрын
I usually just go with w/e the option on the right is. I know its sometimes bad and can lead to slower progress. Its just a "no thinking" activity for me sometimes. Besides on lower levels the exp you get from them is actually insane. Also now on 3.25 you also get a node that gives you intelligence per completed map so its even faster
@PathofEvening25 күн бұрын
Good deal
@calvinwilson3617Ай бұрын
Another great guide, but if you're like me and dont want to do all the effort of betrayal with most of the rewards you just take the points for increased chance, 10 progress per map, and focus on executing and blasting without worrying much about who is where. Still pretty good rewards for way less effort/knowledge
@PathofEveningАй бұрын
Fair enough!
@primebg9853Ай бұрын
As most people that clicked on this video, I don't understand Betrayal too well, but I have a feeling you can target farm Paradoxica with the way you setup the board. I've seen video compilation of Alk finding a few of those when he was farming for his dual strike of ambidexterity character. Perhaps it's worth looking into it?
@PathofEveningАй бұрын
It absolutely is!
@ohnosono3127Ай бұрын
such a good video. Thanks bro for the refresh.
@PathofEveningАй бұрын
We are glad you enjoyed it.
@genskie24Ай бұрын
What I hate about the new betrayal is that you either get 15 div or pretty much nothing.
@PathofEveningАй бұрын
RNG is a beast
@davidmaltais29127 күн бұрын
Use it league start for crafts then never touch it ever again lol
@adrianx8243Ай бұрын
Best guide on KZbin !
@PathofEveningАй бұрын
Glad it helped!
@rubikmonat6589Ай бұрын
I misread that as how to Ruin Betrayal and expected a strat like endless heist. Once you get to high level it might be worth picking up some of the veiled items to use as recombinator food. I got a heap for a + gem levels amulet with a related veiled mod.
@PathofEveningАй бұрын
True, good call on recombos. Ruining betrayal sounds fun.
@SS20x3Ай бұрын
I've never seen a headunter, a mageblood, or a mirror, but I got like half a dozen paradoxicas in affliction alone. Its a rare drop, but its not that rare considring the speed at which you can pump safehouses out.
@PathofEveningАй бұрын
WELL, WELL, WELL, IF IT ISN'T MR. (ALLEGEDLY-NOT-SO) LUCKY!
@Meisen1977Ай бұрын
@@PathofEvening Hihihi :) I've had the same experience as OP. They really aren't THAT rare... If you run a dedicated betrayal strat for a good portion of time (no adhd brain forcing you to jump from strat to strat every other day), then they do drop from time to time. If i were forced to put a number on it, i'd say they are of similar rarity as getting the fracture shard splotion from harbingers was last league. Thereabouts ish, maybe...
@unclebenz86Ай бұрын
Your content is super awesome. You should consider making shorts that summarize your conclusion - your reach will probably grow! Thank you for All of your content man!
@PathofEveningАй бұрын
The channel manager is so happy you added this comment since she constantly says the same thing. We're going to try it out hopefully.
@dekina1198Ай бұрын
I will probably try to farm more stuff myself this league to lern the game more, rather then just farm currency and buy everything. This one is nice for me since i plan to play flicker and will be looking for a paradoxica. Also replica ferrals fur, so a heist guide would be nice for me (:
@daedalus6433Ай бұрын
The league mechanic will probably let you print chaos with boats anyway
@PathofEveningАй бұрын
Well, you're in luck. How to Run Heist! - kzbin.info/www/bejne/mGjNg4KtrqyJfKM
@Aezthet1CАй бұрын
My betrayal strat during necropolis : rush Catarina using double intelligence gain scarab + putting gravicius into fortification if possible (full stack of divine beauty div card if u lucky)
@PathofEveningАй бұрын
Good shout
@Get_ProbedАй бұрын
Excellent video as always, has something changed with your audio setup? Used to have a distinct crackle on the highs which doesn't seem to be present anymore - sounds great!
@PathofEveningАй бұрын
Thank you. We upgraded Llarold's audio interface and it's great that someone noticed! :)
@revoktorment440Ай бұрын
So never take remove rivalries or never take rivalries?
@PathofEveningАй бұрын
Never remove.
@Meisen1977Ай бұрын
@@PathofEvening I'm not absolutely sure i agree with this. It seems to me that if you have the red line between ppl, they are more likely to show up in each others encounters than other ppl that are currently on the same job, or the ppl that are not assigned as of yet. Now, this is not a bad thing IF you end up with three or more ppl, so that you can force the +1 on one of them, but my experience is that very often, there are only two, and they are "rivals" (have the red line), and you will NEVER get the +1 option when there is only two ppl there and they are "enemies"... So, since the meta is rush Catarina, and it doesn't matter where any ppl are, you're just looking for the +1. I'm not so sure removing rivalry is such a bad idea... Source: Anecdotal. I've played a lot of betrayal in earlier leagues, and that has left me with the impression i just shared :)
@daedalus6433Ай бұрын
@@Meisen1977Yeah, friends might be better
@flake4615Ай бұрын
Another banger!! 🪿
@PathofEveningАй бұрын
Thank you!
@miguelnascimento284710 күн бұрын
I decided to give this a go and it seems this mechanic is only worth it if you want to collect all the crafting options as it takes alot of time to get to Catarina and when you do the only thing you get from her is the flask wich sells for around 15c. They should buff this shit, 20 Catarinas in a row and no veiled drops, it is certainly not a 30% chance like the wiki says
@PathofEvening10 күн бұрын
Could just be bad rng.
@HDJ...22 күн бұрын
Hi, did you end up making the video on why expedition amd betrayal are a good combo? Thanks
@PathofEvening22 күн бұрын
We don't have a video planned for that. Basically they are on the same side of the tree which makes them combo well
@jannol1269Ай бұрын
Last league I did 50 catarinas. the chance for veiled orb seems to be roughly 1/3. Thats quite a bit of money if you know how to do it fast. There are not any great guides though as the league has a lot of conditions that nobody really knows. ..so the more you play, the more you learn and the more efficient you become. Almost all the money come from veiled orbs, bribery is a bait as it will take longer to get to katarina. Early on, you can take veiled items to get a head start, you can place them in stash tabs with fixed prices to make selling easiner. You might get some extra money, but veiled orbs are the best income. The league can however make you burn out extremely fast and the randomness of rawards can be harsh. To deal with that, I suggest to combine it with another league especialy those that slow the game down like abyss, expedition, harvest, blight, ritual.
@PathofEveningАй бұрын
good info
@roshinobuhirigasawa110913 күн бұрын
do you happen to have a finished atlas tree with more than 100+ points?
@PathofEvening12 күн бұрын
Figuring out how you want to spec the rest of your tree is up to you.
@jeffpv8408Ай бұрын
I know this isn’t necessarily the place but do you think there has been any nerf or buff to your Mjolnir ball lightning of orbiting heirophant build with 3.25?
@PathofEveningАй бұрын
The Adorned got nerfed, so that version is nerfed, but there are lots of ways to compensate.
@JohnTCampbell198625 күн бұрын
This is a pretty good beginners guide but definitely some stuff missing. Gravicius in Transport can be quite profitable (i have friend who have dropped mageblood, I got a 10d double corrupted jewel, my friends got Sephiroth, Brothers Gift etc). Some people even set up the board so they never do Catarina and just speedrun Grav in transport permanently. Personally I enjoy the dopamine from the 1/10 Veiled orb drop so I do a mix of it where I just get grav in transport at rank 3 then speedrun cata. Tora in research can be quite nice too, 400m experience into awakened gems can be a nice profit too (purchased awakened ele attack for 3.5d and its 6d at rank 5)
@PathofEvening25 күн бұрын
Yeah it isn't the everything guide, everyone should play how they like
@prabum468622 күн бұрын
Hey Path, when a safehouse becomes accessible while i’m in a map, often I talk to Jun there to try to launch the safehouse but it says “Cannot launch safehouse as there is not enough space at the current location”. If I finish up my map first (and more Jun encounters happen), the safehouse goes below 100% completion. If I had left earlier to run the safehouse from my hideout, it will kill my existing map. What do you normally do for this situation? And also, thanks for the excellent video on Betrayal!!
@PathofEvening22 күн бұрын
You can only launch safehouses from your hideout. This is okay, because you have three encounters of safety time between triggering a safehouse and it resetting back to 90%, so you'll never have a safehouse reset in the map in which you procced it. You just want to be sure to run the safehouse as soon as you finish the map. Putting Jun near your map device can help with making sure you don't miss it! Thank you for the nice comment, gl!
@ursoatum837912 күн бұрын
How would you go with harvest here?
@PathofEvening12 күн бұрын
Spec into it and run it?
@Felorn6863369Ай бұрын
Thanks for the video!
@PathofEveningАй бұрын
Thank you for watching our content!
@Shirasi_SunstriderАй бұрын
Hi. Is it viable to "alc'n'go" map and spam betrayal without planning? I mean, just randomly push guys and then run Catarina and again and again and again? Or better look at some other league mechanics?
@PathofEveningАй бұрын
Yeah, you can just rush Betrayal and it's still fine.
@Shirasi_SunstriderАй бұрын
Thanks, mate!
@dosquatsАй бұрын
This really helped
@PathofEveningАй бұрын
Awesome!
@kthxplsАй бұрын
Dropped my first Headhunter ever by doing Betrayal this league.
@PathofEveningАй бұрын
Sick!
@busfahrer0928 күн бұрын
Playing more or less since Open Beta, I never really bothered to get into this **** mechanic. This was kinda helpful.. 1. I just try to get max info and green threads 2. don't release people 3. only release them if the prison is full and the 3rd option is ending rivalries between them which is the worst I could click 4. rush in safehouses to the last boss and don't kill the first room's bosses Did I forget anything tl;dr?
@PathofEvening28 күн бұрын
Sounds about right
@busfahrer0927 күн бұрын
@@PathofEvening I just watched that whole part again, can you elaborate on how killing some guy levels them up? And what that does to the board? When should I kill and when not? Is the color of threads between members influencing my decision in that regard? I really struggle to understand how someone gets more important and still plays a role when he's "dead" lol. Thank you very much.
@jamesyue1348Ай бұрын
after watching the video 5 times back to back i still don't know to do betrayal -_- please help...
@PathofEveningАй бұрын
This is all we got
@dogggodАй бұрын
can you show us what build you running in this video?
@PathofEveningАй бұрын
It's just Toxic Rain Pathfinder with pretty good gear.
@vyde8559Ай бұрын
What about putting like Aisling in research, or is it just time waist and not worth it anymore? And can there be good loot dropped? cause u only got like scrabas and rares or so.
@PathofEveningАй бұрын
Not worth prioritizing any more, since she doesn't give anything special, just scarabs.
@bole5113Ай бұрын
Sooo, wo dont want to check the good betrayal cheat sheet anymore? Or just a little bit and rush Catherine?
@PathofEveningАй бұрын
Straight rush Catarina now. The cheat sheet has been rendered obsolete.
@bole5113Ай бұрын
@@PathofEvening veiled chaos orbs and big drops >>>> trash scarabs and junk. Got it
@MC-yl7qfАй бұрын
How did you manage to amass so many scarabs?
@PathofEvening29 күн бұрын
Playing a lot!
@MC-yl7qf29 күн бұрын
@@PathofEvening xD no doubt, but did you use a specific atlas strat for scarabs?
@PathofEvening28 күн бұрын
Many different ones, but prioritizing scarabs in pretty much all of them.
@829145Ай бұрын
4020 life, clock is at 04:20, this can't have been coincindental?
@PathofEveningАй бұрын
Happy accident
@fofofoeyАй бұрын
wow didnt think paradoxica was that rare. i already got like 3, or maybe that just me going jun full time since forever
@PathofEveningАй бұрын
Probably just a skill issue.
@Meisen1977Ай бұрын
Yeah, they really aren't THAT rare... it's just rng screwing pathofevening over :)
@crazycdn8327Ай бұрын
I won't tell you then that I had a paradoxica drop on my 2nd or 3rd and then 5th mastermind fight then. Both were not great and in SSF so there was no selling them.
@PathofEveningАй бұрын
Seems you just did!
@crazycdn8327Ай бұрын
@@PathofEvening Oops, my bad! ;) You'll get one this league, I sense it.
@Meisen1977Ай бұрын
Paradoxica doesn't drop from the mastermind fight, it drops from the intervention safehouse when you kill the leader in there, whomever that might be.
@crazycdn8327Ай бұрын
@@Meisen1977 You are correct, I miss remembered.
@xagew9729Ай бұрын
thanks for the video, had just watched your expedition guide from the previous league, am thinking about going expe+ betrayl this league thanks to your guides
@PathofEveningАй бұрын
Glad you like them. We have more coming.
@gideondaboi3894Ай бұрын
Time to try Betrayal because I don’t want to buy a damn Paradoxica again.
@PathofEveningАй бұрын
Real
@justinphillips5420Ай бұрын
Great videos
@PathofEveningАй бұрын
Glad you like them!
@EnviistreamsАй бұрын
What's the energy shield MTX? is it still available?
@PathofEveningАй бұрын
Supporter pack, not available
@BlackbeardKNACАй бұрын
It is pronounced Yah-nuss. You can hear Jun pronounce it if you listen carefully. She says "I'm going to kill you Janus"
@PathofEveningАй бұрын
Ok, he's still dead though
@daedalus6433Ай бұрын
@@PathofEveningThe dark side of the Force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural.
@joeanon8568Ай бұрын
Drop rate on veiled orbs at the beginning of last league was terrible. Maybe there is a minimum tier required to drop veiled orbs. If you don't drop a veiled orb, profit is terrible. But it's good xp and the ceiled mods are really good to unlock
@borRIINGАй бұрын
It's 25% drop rate on lv83 maps. If you're doing it on power level maps, the drop rate is gonna be worse.
@PathofEveningАй бұрын
There was a minimum and it was removed.
@borRIINGАй бұрын
@@PathofEvening wait so is the drop rate static at all levels? or you mean a minimum for a drop at all?
@zerokyu7942Ай бұрын
@@borRIING “The Syndicate Mastermind can now drop Veiled Orbs in Areas level 68 and above (previously level 78 and above). The chance for the Mastermind to drop the Veiled Orb between level 73 and 77 is 33% higher than between level 68 and 72. The chance between level 78 and 83 is 50% higher than between level 73 and 77.” It’s really low at lower map levels. Some report about 1/10 drop rate with lvl 83 maps
@fookinkoontАй бұрын
18:13 Btw it's 2 or more, not more than 2
@PathofEveningАй бұрын
He clarifies that in the video
@davidsundberg1806Ай бұрын
Is there a specific craft needed for TR ?
@crazy338866Ай бұрын
The last time I played TR, the -mana cost ring craft was needed specifically from Elreon.
@PathofEveningАй бұрын
+2 support gems off Catarina and the -mana cost ring from Elreon.
@exeedorbitАй бұрын
OH man, didn't play last season. Looks like they butchered my Veiled Chaos farm from 3.23. Sad. Either way, nice vid.
@PathofEveningАй бұрын
Thank you, we try!
@itstysonphamАй бұрын
First :3 also Love your contents a lot, super educational!!
@PathofEveningАй бұрын
Thank you. We do try our best to make these videos great.
@skulverАй бұрын
Is there a reason why all the other Syndicate members drop lots of items but Elreon seems to only drop one at most?
@PathofEveningАй бұрын
He's greedy
@bado90Ай бұрын
paradoxica the item that almost never drop 😅😅
@PathofEveningАй бұрын
RNG can be brutal
@manbagan27 күн бұрын
Its a shame what they did to betrayal this league. You used to get rewarded for actually thinking about who you put where, and making the best of each encounter. Now its just rush Catarina and gamba for veiled orb. They took a lot of depth away sadly
@PathofEvening27 күн бұрын
They said it they weren't thrilled with the current state of it at least
@jankone19Ай бұрын
i guess im even more confused w its mechanic... please explain like im 8yo lmao
@PathofEveningАй бұрын
Nah, this is what we got. Can ask AI to do that
@jankone19Ай бұрын
@@PathofEvening No problem, ill try and find out, i play for fun :) Thanks for everything, especially for toxic rain starter.
@jpibmgАй бұрын
Man, just so wrong about safehouse rooms being just crap. Was hoping to see a good board setup here but betrayal is much much more than rushing Catarina !
@PathofEveningАй бұрын
Not since 3.24
@eddienash2095Ай бұрын
I hate betrayal
@PathofEveningАй бұрын
Ok
@daedalus6433Ай бұрын
Then don't do it
@davidmaltais29127 күн бұрын
Or here's a crazy idea how about they make it less complicated and more fun and better