YES. You did a Sloppy Stage 2 VS the world, next up the BTR Truck Norris VS the world, and a Sloppy Best Cam VS the world? I would definitely watch. Keep up the great work Professor Holdener.
@shaneshane13792 жыл бұрын
I saw a video of a suburban that got a truck Norris cam. That cam had a healthy lope. Something I really don't want for a daily driver at 50 years old. At 20, it wouldn't have been enough. At 30, probably just right. But 50, not really.
@bullhead3602 жыл бұрын
Truck Norris cam is hard to beat. Will be running one in my G8/Caprice whichever I get.
@paulguerrero9722 жыл бұрын
Keep us updated!!! My G8 needs a good cam too!!!
@turkeyboyjh12 жыл бұрын
I run a tsp stage 2 high lift cam and I have been very happy, the truck has 3.73 gears and stock converter and a mildly beefed 4l60e and honestly can’t feel any torque loss when you factor in the stock torque management kills the low torque when they are stock, it still rows great, 20ish mpg on the highway and a nice mild lope at idle and drive pretty much stock until you put your foot down
@luvtheus2 жыл бұрын
I wish I could get that good of MPG with my 02 5.3 Silverado 4x4. Earlier this year I installed 4.8 flat top pistons, TSP stage 2.5 cnc ported heads, a TSP low lift cam 550/550 ,208/214@ 114 lobe sep, Gibson stainless shorty headers (easy bolt up), replaced all 4 o2 sensors, etc.... Also have 373 rear gears and 33" tires. My average mpg is about 12. I'm still using the stock 78mm throttle body and the stock truck intake manifold as well as the stock exhaust system from the cats back. I see a lot of Silverado drivers getting much better mileage than me and I'm not sure why. The truck with this new engine was placed on a hub dyno and produced 290 rwhp. Was hoping for better
@turkeyboyjh12 жыл бұрын
@@luvtheus how much hyway driving do you do mine get 8-10 around town
@luvtheus2 жыл бұрын
@@turkeyboyjh1 That 12mpg is average of both in town and interstate driving. I dont use the AC much either but do use it on really hot days. I also burn 91 octane fuel. Maybe I will try some mid grade next fill up?
@clintkysar1446 Жыл бұрын
@@luvtheus change your gears one numerically higher, it will preform better all around mpgs and acceleration
@Nowayjose-z2r Жыл бұрын
When clients ask me about what they should run my first question is why and what. Why do you need a cam? What do you want out of the cam? Generally it's more power towing and/or plowing. Those I always recommend some type of RV cam (what we called torque cams long time ago) as usually it's a used truck with questionable maintenance and 300,000 miles as as mentioned glass transmissions. I'll refuse to put a higher then stage one in a high mileage engine with out checking the bottom end over, compression check, etc. As we all know those LS will last for ever if you maintain it properly. That said I add a signed wavier that transmission damage may occur if it's not been rebuilt yet. Got smashed on that once and had to pay for a clients transmission 10,000 miles after the cam swap.
@Geoduck.9 ай бұрын
4.8 torque cam info makes sense. As aways thank you Richard.
@Rick-qf5de8 ай бұрын
My 4.8 is a torque monster... Idles and pulls at 500 RPMs... Good shifts at 2000 RPMs. 3000 RPMs when getting on the highway.... What's really impressive as I can make left and right turns in 3rd gear.... I do have a five-speed stick. 20 mi to a gallon squatted down....
@Rick-qf5de8 ай бұрын
I should say my 1999 is still bone stock... 245 k. I wouldn't put anything performance on it , only GM factory parts, from that era....
@hardball1072 жыл бұрын
I just built a 5.3LS and used flat top 4.8L pistons to bump compression a half point, a Texas Speed Stage 2 Truck Cam (.600 lift), with one piece push rods, BTR springs and retainers. It has a Fitech Ultimate FI system on top and long tubes. It's bolted to a built 700r4 with a tight converter because I use it as a daily driver in my '68 C10 and it's a spirited ride, very spirited to say the least. It just melts the rear tires. Now that winters over I'm on the hunt for a 6.0L with a 4L80 out of a wreck for my next project (a '78 Monza) to drop it in and that will most likely have a Sloppy Stage 2 in it (Elgin 1840p) or a TN cam so I can't wait to see the numbers you get with it. The performance down low and up to 6000+ rpm with those truck cams makes up for a lot hotter cam and has much better driveability. That would be a test I'd like to see. 6.0L with a TBSS manifold and long tubes to test the TN vs. The Sloppy Stg. 2. Let's make it happen Richard. The Low Buck 500+ hp Wars.
@Adrianinhd Жыл бұрын
I love watching these videos. I am currently rebuilding a 1961 impala. It's my first ever build and so i decided to keep it simple and keep the original 283 in the car. Eventually i want to LS swap the car or maybe LS swap another car and all of this information helps me not only pick a cam, but understand engine behavior more for my future builds. Thanks Richard!
@djrigo1a Жыл бұрын
I just did a ls swap 6.0 with a 4 stage cam on a 62 Impala the thing it’s fast and it sounds good
@adrianherrera9688 Жыл бұрын
5.3 would actually be a lot more simpler you can find one in offer up with a trans and computer for 1500$ wiring it to ur build about 600$ and install the engine ur self
@Adrianinhd Жыл бұрын
@@adrianherrera9688 no doubt! But budget wise keeping the OG engine made more sense for the kinda car it’s gonna be. I’ve been able to get it remachine, rebuilt, new cam & valvetrain and pretty much all the accessories for under $4k. Less swap would have cost me more + new drive line for the longer trans & new crossmember. Plus I would have felt bad for letting a great engine like a 283 just get tossed to the side lol.
@BroncoNegurski2 ай бұрын
Yes .. Torque Cam with a Trailblazer manifold.. that is the daily/driver set up.
@shannonsisk2 жыл бұрын
And trucks with a 6.0 often have hydro boost, so vacuum brakes and the truck pushing through the brakes at a stop sign isn’t as much of a problem as with a smaller engine vacuum brake truck.
@bradenmolloy74432 жыл бұрын
Stage 16 Solid roller truck cam
@michaelk4262 жыл бұрын
Did you say transmission made of glass….. ………priceless!
@BlackandWhitecustoms2 ай бұрын
Someone please make a video of glass transmission doing a 600 hp launch 😂
@06jj282 жыл бұрын
We need that truck Norris test please
@df5849 Жыл бұрын
TSP uses compcams lobe profiles.... .... I would change the ICL & LSA on a few of those cams for a daily....
@ronaldlewis20412 жыл бұрын
So much information on the LS motors, Thanks for sharing your knowledge on the difference in the engines and the right camshaft to make great power,I got a 2016 6.0 runs great but the power gain your talking about sure makes me want to see everything I need to get up to speed 😉
@knightracer082 жыл бұрын
I would love to see you run the truck norris cam on a stock 6.0l with short tubes and an exhaust. I'm just doing the tuning on my daily with that combo.
@bookielh8752 жыл бұрын
@@knightracer08 hey I'm trying to do thst combo with the tbss intake, how did is yur combo..
@austintaylor7532 жыл бұрын
There was no 6.0 on 2016
@ronaldlewis20412 жыл бұрын
@@austintaylor753 I drive one everyday, 2500 HD Silverado 6.0,just saying
@19safe536 ай бұрын
I appreciate all the work you put into your videos. But I wish it were more simplified. Say a chart with size engine and corresponding suggested cam. All these grids are confusing to simple people like me.
@richardholdener17276 ай бұрын
it would require much more than a 2 variable chart unfortunately, as a great many variables go into cam selection
@craigjanz82632 жыл бұрын
I would like to see the 6L with the trucknorris cam. The more low end grunt in a truck the better.
@df5849 Жыл бұрын
I'm going with Ultradyne, one of Harold's HR lobe profiles.... can be ground from Bullet racing 😊❤❤❤❤
@robertcampbell13072 жыл бұрын
TN for my 5.3L, as soon as I get some dough!
@bradenmolloy74432 жыл бұрын
Nice to watch this after work
@danhoy83562 жыл бұрын
Liked the video before the intro ended… cuz I knew I would love it!
@shawng7902 Жыл бұрын
To all the people who have done it, will my truck run enough with AFM/vvt delete to get it to the tuner, or do I need to take Pcm out? Rather have him look at the whole package and tune it for what I have. I took your advice and bought the BTR torque truck cam a few min after you answered me last time. All I needed to hear.
@rexwarren78472 жыл бұрын
I would go all out with me racing can testing can timing with lobe splits angles everything that a ton of cam company's do but on the track proves it all on what's getting it and what's not love track and tune days
@myoneblackfriend3151 Жыл бұрын
I seriously needed to see this. Thank you, Richard. You're the best.
@artlife6210 Жыл бұрын
Comp Cams HR 265 is what I have in my 5.3 (LS1 replacement in a 98 TA)with 243 heads and headers, its very driveable sounds great and doesnt nuke my mpg.
@richardholdener1727 Жыл бұрын
those work well
@crautoguy83842 жыл бұрын
This is a awesome conversation video. I appreciate it I don't like big cube stroker motors don't seem to live at high rpm. I like high winding Small blocks. I had to sell it when my kid was born. but I had built a dart 400 block with A3.25 stroke 6.125 rods custom JE pistons 12 to 1 compression with a set of old circle track 208/185 Canfield heads Crowder shaft rockers sollid roller 370" small block rev 9 grand made power to 8.5 600 horse 500' pounds Approximately I had a 600 lift Cam shaft Went down to like 550 lift picked up a whole bunch more horsepower down low still made power up top Short stroke didn't need that much cam just made it peaky and only make power the very top but I love a destroked motor Low rotating mass. Big motor always makes more power stroke does not seem to affect RPM But smaller motors stay alive longer at high rpms I have a heavy foot I've built some 383. They need a long rod in a custom piston. Would love to see A 6.2 block 4.8 crank high compression custom piston and Is long rod combo Short stroke motors are extremely forgiving with high compression I e piston speed
@BornToBeFamed Жыл бұрын
Gm hotcam might be best option overall sounds mean, good overall cam to build around
@DM-qp7do2 жыл бұрын
I sure appreciate how detailed he is, my dad and I are both deciding on a cam for his L33 and my L59 and im sure glad I watched this. He wants torque and drivability and I want more power down low and without having to wring its neck to get in the power curve.
@Ninelinegarage2 жыл бұрын
I’m really interested in seeing a 706/862 headed 6.0 with the TN cam video!
@TrevorSperling-br5vd Жыл бұрын
Also, i have headers and 3in single exhaust with out converter.
@chadvalliere86972 жыл бұрын
I’ve read about guys needing a converter on a stage 2 for towing applications. Reason I went with stage 1 V2. ‘01 2500HD 6.0
@chrismoyers43822 жыл бұрын
Richard, I have a gen 3 5.3 with a btr stage 4 cam .223/.226 .600. 4l80 with 3800 stall. I drive 70 miles each day to work. No issues.
@richardholdener17272 жыл бұрын
those are stage 4 specs?
@chrismoyers43822 жыл бұрын
@@richardholdener1727 yes, I believe so.
@chrismoyers43822 жыл бұрын
@@richardholdener1727 tsp stage 4 223/226. .600.
@dontadeshun2 жыл бұрын
I just ordered the truck Norris cam for my 07 tahoe 5.3
@AdamMorton-u2h4 ай бұрын
In all your testing a stock block lq4 6.0 317 heads what cam intake makes most power. Motor is going in a monte ss weekend car occasional track use. Plan on doing stall converter for what ever cam calls for.
@richardholdener17274 ай бұрын
most peak hp? most ave hp? ave tq?
@pjstartv67982 жыл бұрын
I would like to see some comparisons between the BTR Truck Norris and the SDPC "Hot Truck Torque" cam (SD0053) and the SDPC "Hot Truck 1" cam (SDR214218)
@chopperking0072 жыл бұрын
Those gains on the 6.0 stage 2 are awesome
@joseiracheta38172 жыл бұрын
The best cam for the 6.0 , TN for 5.3, torque cam for 4.8
@grahamerosewarne66562 жыл бұрын
Thanks heaps for your knowledge Richard. I like the technical advice that you have already tried. Awesome content 👍💯 Aussie Fan 🤟🇦🇺🤣
@GoodForYou45042 жыл бұрын
Great info Richard! This just helped me make up my mind for what my 4.8 needs. Thank you.
@AustinOutdoors.10 ай бұрын
What’s your setup? I also have a 4.8
@GoodForYou450410 ай бұрын
@@AustinOutdoors. after a bunch of research I ended up getting the truck Norris camshaft K&N cold air intake flowtech headers Flowmaster exhaust. The truck has no lack of power. I like the truck Norris camshaft for a 4.8 because of the low-end torque combined with the other power benefits. Definitely worth considering
@viciousrap7002 жыл бұрын
Complete honesty, Richard....I would be replacing the converter no matter which cam was chosen there. People will argue all day long about whether or not "X" vs "Y" camshaft needs a converter or not. I guess that's where it depends on how a person defines "need". That's like asking people to define "Street Car" everyone will tolerate something different based on budget or comfort. Stock converter and a cam with enough overlap and you'll get surge at idle at a stop light. I personally don't tolerate it but someone else might not mind it. They also might just want a camshaft based on sound alone and couldn't care less if it actually "works" with their combination. My experience is this....I'm yet to see any LS based engine with a 4L60E behind it that didn't respond well to more converter. I can't begin to say how many "Bolt on" 4th Gen F bodies that I've seen with just the basics and a stock camshaft and they are working like crazy with a 4000 Yank converter. I'm sure someone will argue that to be too much converter....that's where we have to throw in what people will tolerate. High stall speed and yes, you're going to sacrifice drive ability but is that much converter "too much"? I guess that's up to the user. I can say this...the ET's don't lie and the 4000 Yank gets it done! All the same stuff applies to the camshaft and it's always going to come down to what the user will tolerate. All anyone else can do is show the data. I have a 04 LQ9 Escalade. I'd probably use a TN cam or even "Lil Lunati" but either way I'm still probably going to throw at least a 3200 stall behind it. Actually, I take it back, I would use neither of those cams and do what I always do and that would be talk to Ed Curtis at Flow tech Induction and I'd let him have my cam done and chances are, I'm going to be happier with whatever Ed does for me than any shelf cam and for not much more money.
@jnieto4902 жыл бұрын
Still tow and go wheeling here in the valley and sometimes in the Sierra's so for my 99' Z71 definitely don't want something aggressive even if I like the sound of a thumpin cam 😂
@billhayward266811 ай бұрын
I got a lot out of this video but you didn't mention anything about whether a new tune is required for any of the cams discussed. I'm new to this,I have more experience with Chevy carb stuff. Thanks for sharing.
@richardholdener172711 ай бұрын
cam needs tune
@harryfp14942 жыл бұрын
I’m putting a 4l80 in mine but it’s a good excuse to blow it up with a stage 2
@andrewmiddleton75444 ай бұрын
Good morning Rich,love the content as always. My question is for my daily driver I have the 4.8 and I'm interested in the torque cam, my question is what are the specs for and also what other bolt-ons would you recommend to compliment it cold air intake, maybe some headers, or even a Cat-Back system?
@richardholdener17274 ай бұрын
the torque cam is 500 lift and 202/202 duration. All things you mentioned can help performance (except cat back). A tune is important
@jeremyhare95154 ай бұрын
Would a chopacabra texas speed cam be fine for a 5.3 that tows?
@nathanielbolden50532 жыл бұрын
I have a gen 3 4.8 in my 03 yukon and a gen 4 5.3 for my 86 Cutlass rebuild which I plan to boost I just want a cam thats a step above factory I dont want a choppy noisy cam but I want it to play nice as a daily driver as well as with a gt45 turbo setup
@LAnd32332 жыл бұрын
Let me know if you ever decided on the 4.8 cam man with the turbo kit in mind.
@fenatic74842 жыл бұрын
A 4.8 with the tq cam is surprisingly good, and the little 283 is good 👍
@fc3sluis2 жыл бұрын
We need that Truck norris 6.0l dyno! please
@craig81872 жыл бұрын
And keep in mind these are WOT dyno runs, part throttle cruise economy is another aspect that will run in favour of the tq cams.
@utahcountypicazospage54122 жыл бұрын
Especially in the idle cruise department tn is not a cruiser cam the stage 2 is such a good cam and sounds stock with certain exhaust systems
@zfreak28082 жыл бұрын
could you add in videos of the idle qualities of different cams? vacuum, stable rpm, how much idle fluctuation there is at lower rpm, etc. I don't think the average person watching your videos understand just how bad idle can be on a big cam.
@drron56082 жыл бұрын
Rich could u do another truck cam comparison video and do the comp cams extreme truck cam and do a comparison to the truck norris
@utahcountypicazospage54122 жыл бұрын
Richard can high overlap cams foul plugs quicker during idle.the stage 2 cam idle is perfect in a 5.3 and in a 6.0 can be a cheater cam since it can sound stock with 1 7/8 headers high flow 3 inch cats
@alejandroalba2 жыл бұрын
Hello Richard. Please same video for a daily driver sbc L31 vortec swapped sedan.
@Tshade675 ай бұрын
LQ4/LQ9 Truck Norris camshaft test please?
@mattblack1337 ай бұрын
I wonder roughly about how many MPG you lose going from stock cam to stage 1 in a Suburban with an LC9 5.3.
@bobgyetvai94442 жыл бұрын
Sounds to me the 4.8 Needs a TN type cam all its own !!! It has the greatest need of help .
@ProMage481828 күн бұрын
I have a 5.3 I’m building for my 04 silverado and I’ve decided on the truck Norris cam given all of its benefits for a daily driver. I’m just wondering what’s a cost-friendly set of heads that I could get. I have a k&n cold air intake and 1 3/4 long tube headers. Planning on getting a trailblazer SS intake manifold as well. Just looking for a good set of heads to match with the cam and make sure they’re completely compatible with each other
@richardholdener172727 күн бұрын
The Truck Norris cam is compatible with stock heads
@DandersonGM2 жыл бұрын
I really want to see the truck Norris on a 6.0 but with 243’s
@cameronf27582 жыл бұрын
My goal is to build that this summer lol. I have a 5.3 with the TN cam r n and love it.
@tonymickens8803 Жыл бұрын
I have a 2008 Silverado 1/2 ton Z71 5.3 Flex that I got in 2010 and only drive it on weekends for Fun and it has Only Burned E85, I put an Airaid Tube on the stock air box, TB Spacer, Long Tubes with Duels, Thank you for this Vid, I was Wondering what Cam to put in it and the Truck Norris it Is! @Richard Holdener
@richardholdener1727 Жыл бұрын
good choice
@Todd_S2 жыл бұрын
I have the same dilemma for the 5.3L LC9 in my Silverado 1500 4WD Crew Cab Z71 truck. Stage 1 BTR cam or Truck Norris BTR cam.
@cameronf27582 жыл бұрын
The TN has a shaky idle. If you want a smother idle go stage 1
@MrBlacktail30002 жыл бұрын
Hi Richard, your latest videos on the Truck Norris cam have really made me consider it for my 4.8 5 speed RCSB. Since I have won’t have any torque converter issue and I’ve already got an upgraded clutch in it I think the extra power gains would be pretty sweet. Keep up the good work!
@cameronf27582 жыл бұрын
I'm running the TN cam in my 5.3 and I love it. My buddy runs a stage 2 btr in a 5.3 swapped 5 speed s10. The TN is awesome for "race car" feel but stock cam drivability around 1600-2200.
@johnsheetz6639 Жыл бұрын
That's a dang sweet and hard to find truck! Take care of her. And hit me up if you want to sell it!
@3PedalFun Жыл бұрын
not sure if you put the TN cam in yet or not, but i just finished tuning my 4.8, 5 speed, rcsb. What i will say is, I am a bit disappointed in it. 1/4 and 1/2 throttle leaves ALOT to be desired and unless you're about 3500 the truck pretty much feels slower than stock. Other mods are LT's, e fan, 3.73s. Im about to pull it for the BTR torque cam or the summit 8727r1
@billcarson452511 ай бұрын
Same issue for me did TN cam swap and have shity power down low step on gas and it hauls ass maybe should of looked into torqe cam
@roadsideprophet20124 ай бұрын
I am currently building a 5.3 for my 2004 Sierra and had already decided on the Truck Norris kit with lifters/PRs/springs. This really solidified my choice. Here is my question..... will it be ok to run this with stock exhaust for the moment? I have a K&N air filter in the stock air box but I won't have time or money to upgrade to CAI and headers until next spring
@richardholdener17274 ай бұрын
works with any exhaust
@andrewmiddleton75445 ай бұрын
Hey rich, first off love the content as usual always informative as I've taken your advice with my two previous vehicles. My new question is I just picked up a 03 Chevy truck with the 4.8, first question is is there a part number for the torque cam tested in this video, and second what other parts would you recommend to compliment it (intake, exhaust, any tuning etc.) as this is my daily driver now? Thanks in advance and once again great video.
@richardholdener17275 ай бұрын
dont have part number but the 202/202 torque cam is BTR
@andrewmiddleton75444 ай бұрын
Thanks for the reply, lastly do you still have cams available for the 4.8 as well?
@SSstunt12 жыл бұрын
Struggling to find a nice cam for my 6.0 stroker 408 back by a t56 tans. I plan on adding a Turbo later down the line but would like a cam that I can use as of now an will benefit me when I am ready to add a turbo not racing the vehicle
@richardholdener17272 жыл бұрын
BTR HOT ROD
@bookielh8752 жыл бұрын
Hey,I'm getting ready to do a lq9 ,with tbss intake. ...Would love to see video on how the Truck Norris cam on this combo
@richardholdener17272 жыл бұрын
it works fine-see the video I did on all the truck cams on a 6.0l
@JCustomFab Жыл бұрын
I know this video is a year old... I have build That I want dependable with as much horse power and torque for towing. I currently purchased a LSA supercharger for my 6.0l with 317 heads... What is going to be the best cam for that?
@richardholdener1727 Жыл бұрын
pick the cam based on what you want the cam to do na-stock converter use? idle quality? fuel mileage? drivability? desired rpm range? Look at something like the Truck Norris for towing-and yes, it works with boost
@BobHGarage2 жыл бұрын
Summit Big truck torkinator vs truck norris please!
@stephennachorny8272 жыл бұрын
There’s your next test! 6ltr with TN cam and 1 3/4” headers & long extensions.. 🥳
@Jesse-dt1pf Жыл бұрын
This is the first time I've ever came across someone with the same last name as me
@pmd7771969 Жыл бұрын
Pick the 2nd cam down on the cam list. Bloodviking
@dankeene9637 Жыл бұрын
How about a Truck nNorris 6.0 dyno?
@unclesquirrel69512 жыл бұрын
Personally I blame squirrels
@marcowens-gq5sy Жыл бұрын
You can stop commenting that BS on every video!
@bethparks5346 Жыл бұрын
Facts
@Deeznuts84356 Жыл бұрын
Mud divers
@subarutime5089 Жыл бұрын
Hey thats my spirit animal 😅
@dennisyoung46316 ай бұрын
Especially when they put Acorns in the intake manifold!
@metalworksmachineshop Жыл бұрын
I have a 5.7 in my F Body WS6. Texas Speed headers full exhaust, no cat , cat back loudmouth. I'd like to wake the 5.7 up a bit. Still want good drive ability. Engine is still all stock , 80k mile car. Don't want a race car. And it's not a daily driver. Date night and cruise in driving.
@v6transplant25 күн бұрын
Did you choose to go with a cam, if so which one? I have a stock 5.7 also, and assuming this is going to be similar to the 6.0 results in the video?
@ctg2882 жыл бұрын
I'm about to put 706 heads and a tbss intake on my lq4 truck, and I was leaning toward the Truck Norris cam anyway. Thank you for confirming that.
@tracym4272 жыл бұрын
RECCOMEDATIONS? I have a bone stock 13 Sierra Denali. Has the 6.2 (L9H) I’m thinking of a good tune and possibly a small cam. I don’t want any chop and don’t want to have to change torque converter or anything else, just like to make this motor come alive a little. Mostly I’d like to get some cam advice on best power and torque gains through the most of the rpm range as possible. Would like to unlock rev limiter to take advantage of more rpm.
@richardholdener17272 жыл бұрын
stage 1 or 2
@fc3smurray2 жыл бұрын
I have a 2012 half ton Sierra Denali with the L9H. Factory stall, longtubes, dual exhaust, Ported TBSS intake, S&B CAI and a custom CamMotion grind (right between their stage 1 & 2). I tune with HPTuners. I Love how my truck performs. Lost very little low end torque BELOW 1700 rpm and picked up a ton of midrange and top end. I average 15 mpg (being a crew cab and AWD that is awesome). The supporting mods with my custom transmission tune really make it a pleasure to drive. I constantly get compliments on it's sound. However, the idle is choppy (which I like). Go for it man, you won't be disappointed. Just find a local HPTUNERS user because the tune changes are extensive (I tune LS engines locally & the E38 PCM has great resolution BUT is pretty finicky).
@utahcountypicazospage54122 жыл бұрын
Richard drivability with the truck Norris is rough very aggressive idle and bucks in some applications. The other three are super smooth in comparison can you do a test hold at 3500-4500rpm for 5 minutes and see how much fuel each cam Consumes to get an mpg idea
@richardholdener17272 жыл бұрын
hold at wot for 5 minutes?
@utahcountypicazospage54122 жыл бұрын
Sure but I was thinking more of a cruising speed and document how much each cam consumed in fuel to get an idea of consumption I assume the most powerful cam will consume more fuel but not wot partial throttle
@rebturtle Жыл бұрын
@@richardholdener1727 You say that like boats don't stand at WOT for hours......
@johnpublic168 Жыл бұрын
108 lobe centers 200x208 dual pattern
@bradenmolloy74432 жыл бұрын
Luckily I have a stall converter for my hot rod
@or-ian69732 жыл бұрын
I have a 5.3l sbe with pac1218 springs Elgin 1838 cam 216/220 with a single s366 turbo. Now I like the setup. It’s responsive and torquey at 10psi. Once I get more time on the build I plan to push it closer to 15psi. I’m wondering this winter if I should swap to a bigger cam to shift power up top more since this turbo produces a lot of power down low. This is on a 3300lb daily 5spd 3.55 gears
@littleherms32852 жыл бұрын
Don't change a thing, keep cranking up the boost. I have a 220/216 .580" on a SBE 4.8 with twin GT3582s on E60 and have passed the 800whp mark with 25psi of boost. On straight pump with an octane booster I'm at 600whp at 17psi.
@littleherms32852 жыл бұрын
An S366 is kinda small, letting the motor breathe more will only choke up the turbine housing quicker. Crank her up to 15psi and chase that plug ground strap and you will be easily past the 500whp mark.
@or-ian69732 жыл бұрын
@@littleherms3285 people have made 650 with this turbo. Not concerned about hp.
@littleherms32852 жыл бұрын
@@or-ian6973 650whp with the drive pressure ratio at 2 to 1 vs closer to 1 to 1 are two VERY different octane and tune requirements. Trust me, leave the hard parts alone and turn up the wick.
@luisalmeida65242 жыл бұрын
How about for obs fords :)
@shawncordeiroTerraceBC4 ай бұрын
all aftermarkit cams will reduce gas mileage rite ? if so by how much on average 20% reduction ? How come you dont go low as 1500 rpm ? even at 2000 rpm " hwy towing " seems like stock is best Have your ever heard of a " rv " cam ?
@richardholdener17274 ай бұрын
you are not at WOT at 1500 rpm and lots of other issues with this comment
@johncalhoun80112 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mr Holdener!
@jakechimiak96262 жыл бұрын
I have a 05 Sierra ext cab with a lm7 it’s got -227/238 BTR Cam -3200 FTI -TBSS Intake -long tubes full exhaust -milled 706 heads to up compression -rings are gapped for a shot -4.10 gears -36lb injectors -all new rings rod,main,and cam bearing fresh rebuild But I’ve went entirely to big on the cam lol I just read so many forums saying if you are going to cam it go big or go home but now I’m wishing I would have seen this I mean it’s not terrible but if I get on converter it will light the tires up but just sitting at a stop stabbing the gas pedal it’s a dog until like 50-60 raced a stockish 2017 Chevy 5.3 and he was at my door the whole time until about 45 then I started pulling but that’s terrible considering all I have done, would run the a 100-150 shot but tranny is still stock for now
@richardholdener17272 жыл бұрын
it will help but not sure how long the trans will last
@jakechimiak96262 жыл бұрын
@@richardholdener1727 u think I should get a smaller cam because I don’t wanna run a shot at all with a stock tranny but if so what cam would u run with the mods I got
@Ws6Ms2 жыл бұрын
@@jakechimiak9626 I would make sure your tune is in order before doing anything
@TyroneShoolaces-f8e Жыл бұрын
is a STAGE ONE even better for a swapped 5.3LS into like 3300lb Gbody with shitty granny gears in rear 2.33s i think versus a truck with 1-2000 lbs more weight?
@devin76325 ай бұрын
Dam I'm building a lq9 for my rcsb sierra. And I feel like the cam I Got was too small after watching this. I got the summit 209 217 550lift 112 lsa stage 1 cam
@richardholdener17275 ай бұрын
I have bigger cams available for $179
@devin76325 ай бұрын
@@richardholdener1727 how do I buy from you
@gtbmjb71922 жыл бұрын
Knowing this an older video I hope you are able to respond to a question from me. I have a stock C6 Corvette, Z51, A6 w/stock converter, LS2 & 2.56 rear gear. The stock cam is 204/211, 520, 116. I daily drive this car and bracket/index race it on weekends. My question is how does this affect choosing the cam upgrade for this car? Are street manners all in the LSA or does the duration change that more than the LSA? Any comments and/or recommendations. Great video and I appreciate you man!
@richardholdener17272 жыл бұрын
one aspect does not dictate cam manners
@codystembridge30692 жыл бұрын
Wonder what kind of mpg the Truck norris would get in a daily gen 4 crew cab with a built 6l80 and a 26-2800 stall 🤔 That lsa has me thinking it will be a gas hog lol
@cameronf27582 жыл бұрын
Im running it in a 2000 scsb z71 5.3. I have a 23-2500 stall and corvette servo in a rebuilt 60e. I get about the same mpg as before the cam swap. Its way better than I expected. Im only getting 15 Ish combined but I have a heavy foot and heavy wheels/tires
@Dan-rg7jj2 жыл бұрын
I don't think that just because it's a 6L to pick the larger cams especially because they have more lift. If a daily driver it would seem better to stay around 500 lift. Better on valve train smoother perhaps?
@richardholdener17272 жыл бұрын
the bigger motor can run a bigger cam (in this case more duration-not more lift)
@100amps Жыл бұрын
Most 6.0L discussions here are about trucks. I was thinking of throwing an LQ4 into my 79 Corvette (assuming it'll fit). I'm confused about what torque/hp curves I'd want for a daily driver, street burnout/donut (burnut?) machine. Seems to me a TN might be the way to go for that (?) Opinion?
@richardholdener1727 Жыл бұрын
it would work well
@100amps Жыл бұрын
@@richardholdener1727 Thank you good sir .
@100amps Жыл бұрын
@@richardholdener1727 uggh. Just realized Truck Norris has a small LSA. Size matters. My old Corvette needs vacuum for controlling EVERYTHING; headlights, wipers, vent controls, cigarette lighter, glove compartment, gas cap... okay maybe not everything. But 107, 108 might not gimme enough vacuum. Whaddya think?
@trailerparkcryptoking5213 Жыл бұрын
I keep hearing it called a “truck” cam. I suppose because trucks are heavy that need lots of torque down low. Gobs of torque is good in any street application I thought. If I wanted to drop a 5.3 in a lightweight ‘62 Ranchero (2600 lbs) what type of cam would work good for a regularly driven street setup? Would I want something that would rev higher or what? I do realize it’s not going to take much to get it moving and then it would stay in a higher rpm range while beating down a coyote, which is the plan......
@richardholdener1727 Жыл бұрын
TRUCK NORRIS
@trailerparkcryptoking5213 Жыл бұрын
@@richardholdener1727 since it is a restomod with no emissions issues it will have long tube headers and free flowing exhaust would I need all the extra exhaust duration the Truck Norris carries? It has a large split duration most likely for poor flowing exhaust systems. I do like the tighter LSA and the torque curve!
@LoneWolfSnowplowing5 ай бұрын
'12 Sierra Denali 1500 AWD. 6.2 L9H. Forged bottom, full length header, TVS1900 around 10psi. What cam are you going with. I want stock converter ( ZL1 converter) I ordered BTR PDS stage 1 v2. But I'd change the order if I knew something else was better. Daily driver street only truck. I feel like all the truck cams are way smaller.
@richardholdener17275 ай бұрын
there are better choices if you want more low speed torque
@doranmaxwell17554 ай бұрын
So I got a C10 with Ls conversion 5.3 The truck only weighs 3200 lbs But I would like a bit more HP without hurting the bottom end much. The truck does haul stuff around once in a while.l60 E trans and I think 3.08 gears. The stock cam is most likely the lowest hp cam they put in gen 3 what I would like is power improvements from say 4k to 6k+ Am I asking too much?
@richardholdener17274 ай бұрын
I have Low Buck Truck cams that would be perfect for that
@doranmaxwell17554 ай бұрын
@@richardholdener1727 After watching a LOT of your vids (very watchable thank you) I am thinking that the NSR cam is the way to go. It is an old motor but very few miles on it. Buddie bought the truck from someone he knew who totaled it. He drove the truck as a shop truck flatbed conversion till the cops made him take it off the road LOL... then it sat on his shop floor for a few years. probly has less than 70k so i am thinking the springs are good
@tsoutdoors5242 жыл бұрын
I don't really care much about the added power. I have a 4.8L silverado. I just want to have a little more rumble and just a little more get up. Any suggestions?
@richardholdener17272 жыл бұрын
a little more get up is the same as more power-BTR torque cam
@kemicala8 ай бұрын
im confused with the designation of "truck" cam.is there a selection of cams designed for cars. Id like to see a daily driver cam comparison for cars. i wanted to run the truck norris on a 5.7 ls1 daily driver but im not sure if its the best for car
@richardholdener17278 ай бұрын
the cam name doesn't really indicate its usage-a cam is a cam-the Truck Norris works well in any LS motor
@fiveothis2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video, thanks a bunch! Any chance of doing a video with a whipple superecharger on a 5.3 LS?
@richardholdener17272 жыл бұрын
I have a vid on a 4.8L whipple
@toddlloyd91612 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot that for the information. It would be cool to see the motors in a car or truck. What ever happened to the Nova ?
@richardholdener17272 жыл бұрын
being given away
@ericlayton6067 Жыл бұрын
@@richardholdener1727 in this video are you saying that a stock 5.3 with a lil bit of tuning can reach the 350 hp range? And secondly the stage one can you would upgrade to produce the xtra HP, can you install using stock springs?
@Worldonecometo Жыл бұрын
How much of a difference on the numbers would the stage 1 or Truck Norris cams make while trying to stay within those California smog windows?
@blakekendzior75242 жыл бұрын
You dont like using the VVT on these motors? I would like to see a video of a stock vvt cam vs after market vvt cam next to the TN cam w/o vvt. Or maybe just a brief explanation for not using the vvt system. I have a L96 I use as a daily driver.
@richardholdener17272 жыл бұрын
I don't have a way to control VVT on the Gen 3/4 motors
@fatboy61542 жыл бұрын
So if u did have a 5.3 with a 4l60e with long tubes which one would u choose
@fatboy61542 жыл бұрын
It's gonna be a daily so was thinking either stage 1 or 2
@jomomma82912 жыл бұрын
Richard! Why is no one talking about the 6.6 gas engine???