How to Service a Non Serviceable Hub Bearing F-250

[@soldierscraft9213]

Any update? How are they holding up?

[@DieselMike]

No good. My passenger side hub crapped out after a few years. New hubs (OEM, mind you) went in summer of 2018 and I started noticing a rhythmic "wah, wah, wah" coming form the right side in Feb 2022. I just replaced it last weekend (Oct, 2022). I don't believe adding the grease caused the premature failure. I think these are just prone to fail. I went cheap this time and only replaced the pass side this time with an aftermarket from 1A Auto. We'll see how that holds up.

[@soldierscraft9213]

@@DieselMike thank you for the update I also went cheap with Detroit axel hub will see how long they last

[@js35409]

Why is someone selling an adapter for the ABS sensor to put grease in if it doesn't work? And they are still in business?

[@js35409]

​@@soldierscraft9213How are the Detroit Axle parts holding up? I have used them on smaller vehicles over the past two years with no problems.

[@soldierscraft9213]

@@js35409 well 1 year later the hubs are holding up good no issues been true two winters and all good still

[@nailbender1596]

You have successfully greased the attenuator for the wheel speed sensor. The attenuator requires no grease. As far as the Archoil in the knuckle fitting. What were you hoping to accomplish? That area is the cavity for the vacuum actuated ESOF. There are no moving parts within that cavity with the exception of the special pressed onto the axle bearing portion of the inner seal of the knuckle's inner seal which is installed with the OTC 6697 special tool. The outer portion of the cavity is sealed by an O-ring (usually yellow) installed in the groove allocated for it on the wheel bearing hub assembly. The stub axle passes through the cavity and rests on a replaceable sealed bearing that is C-clipped into the wheel bearing hub assembly. The vacuum reaches the hub assembly through 2 machined grooves in the stub axle. Nothing requiring Archoil lube. That's it! When installing the wheel bearing hub assembly it is a good practice to lube the O-ring prior to installation onto the wheel bearing hub assembly and also lube the outer edge of the knuckle cavity to facilitate installation into the knuckle cavity. It is also good practice so as not to pinch the O-ring, to tighten the 4 wheel bearing assembly nuts equally until it is torqued to 133 ft. lbs. torque as recommended in the Ford service manual.

[@josepharagon8259]

I’m glad you got that off our chest because your choice of jargon is a bit nicer than mine would of been 😂😂 ty

[@gernblanstien4968]

for some reason the tapered roller bearings in these have a plastic cage (even the Timken U.S.A. units). If someone were to cross match a steel caged bearing , I think the hub life would be far better.

[@jeffmiller3150]

On my 02 F150 it came with Timken bearings with plastic cages which I thought was cheap, at 300,000+ miles I changed the rotors and installed some bearings with metal cages , the original bearings were in perfect condition. Then I read the reason for the plastic cages is less friction and wear, when I changed rotors again I went back to the Timken bearings with the plastic cages.

[@andrewinsinga2993]

Good video I used a 10ML plastic syringe and filled it with red tacky synthetic grease from Lucas! Simple and effective

[@kenj.8897]

Regardless if this was needed or not you do make very good videos !!!

[@DieselMike]

Haha. Thank you. And for the record, this is a worthless service as you can see in some of my previous responses to comment. Hub still failed eventually. But appreciate the watch!

[@michaelluddeni5717]

Thanks for showing us how to lube sealed bearings.

[@marianomachado3631]

Good video enjoyed it I will try it looked easy enough always replacing wheel bearings thanks

[@DiscordCriminal]

I noticed on my 17 f250 I have a humming noise that comes on for about a second then goes away for a second or two and it does that the whole way down the road. I lifted the truck up yesterday and the passenger side wheel feels good when turning but every few rotations I can hear a slight grinding noise. Unfortunately the motor craft hubs are back ordered so I had to get a master pro brand. Never had a hub bearing sound like this one it’s like it’s on a timer comes and goes at the same rate the entire way down the road. Just hummm…….hummm……….hummm

[@darrylm3627]

Good Stuff, Great Help, Good Tips ,Thanks!👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿

[@Bevenstoomer]

Wish they would make it greasable I’ve been thru a hub assembly once a year for 3 years now only one side though so crazy

[@josepharagon8259]

At Chinese prices we can afford it… Napa prices are something else…!…😅

[@limeallens6160]

you can also use a grease needle

[@DieselMike]

True that!

[@Danaworks63]

It is a sealed bearing inside the hub. No way inserting grease through the sensor port is going to lubricate the bearing.

[@jerryculler6582]

Your assuming that the sealed bearing is open on one side so I DON'T UNDERSTAND how grease this way will get into bearing and not just an open cavity inside? If you have evidence of one take apart I could possibly believe this works.

[@Yamacati]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/m4K4k2qKlLymh7c works on this one. If some have sealed bearings no such luck.

[@DieselMike]

I believe you are correct. After all this preventative maintenance, I had one fail again.

[@kellismith4329]

@@DieselMikethey are designed to fail, gone are the days of clean, lube, adjust bearings - it was a bit of a chore but way simpler and satisfying than the rusty hub change. The bearings are nowhere near as robust looking at the tapered roller bearings on the spindle design was, it is safe to say the mfrs saved lots of $$$ switching to this design

[@DieselMike]

@@kellismith4329 yeah. They suck for sure.

[@petermartini446]

The bearings are sealed for life. You can’t get grease into them that way.

[@richardlewczykjr1022]

I recently did my Dodge caravan... First I used a syringe to shoot in 80 -140 gear oil then forced in grease after 1300 miles things seem fine...

[@rustybaxter9606]

Holy hell, thats bad ass.

[@DieselMike]

The truck or the procedure?? LOL. Thanks for watching and dropping a comment!

[@fogstain]

These bearings are sealed. The only one that can get any grease is the needle bearing on the back side that supports the stub shaft.

[@DieselMike]

Yup. You are correct. See my response to the pinned comment. These hubs will and do fail eventually. Even the OEM's

[@dawnrominske9733]

Great video nice trick thanks.

[@DieselMike]

Appreciate the comment. Grease sparingly. Even with this method I did have another hub fail. I think it's inevitable on the sealed bearings.

[@jeremycooper2209]

I wonder if this would still apply for a 2017. I'll have to look and see

[@johnschatzlein2589]

Did you have any noises? Creeking?

[@marianomachado3631]

Why not use a grease fitting there also

[@DieselMike]

It's a sealed bearing. I don't think it would be worth drilling a port in the knuckle to install a fitting.

[@swooshtx]

Great video sorry to hear it didn't work.

[@TruthSeekers369]

If you don't have a grease fitting you can use an air blower to blow it down into the hub. Not the best way but it will work.

[@allendabold5611]

I hate to tell you this but you're really accomplishing nothing besides wasting Greece and maybe screwing up your sensor. those are sealed bearings and you're not going to get grease in there doing that the only way you can get grease into those bearings is to jam and needle through the seal and pump some grease in. sorry to be the bearer of bad news

[@DieselMike]

Thanks for the comment, Chief. But if you scroll through some of the previous comments, this has long been covered and acknowledged by me. And Greece is an island country in Europe. Grease however is extremely cheap and I’m not too concerned about a few squirts of waste. Thanks for watching!

[@josepharagon8259]

No point in watching this one since I’m replacing the bearing hub assembly’s for a custom, I’m not clogging the vacuum lines with greece..😳

[@Bodie2020]

Well you must not have done any research. No this will not repair an assembly that has gone bad. But it will prolong the life of a good one. They are not sealed inside they are only sealed from outside contaminants

[@greghaney2715]

I guess mr know it all never drove through high water. Grease keeps water and rust out just like a boat trailer. Good idea to put grease in

[@jayfromtexas6718]

Had my 99 f350 since new. Today, I'll replace the passenger side. In 25 years I've probably replaced a half dozen. I'm going to try this. Hopefully I don't f**k up the ABS sensor.

[@woodpecker906]

Mucho mucho good 👍

[@dillonkaitypeters5132]

Did this the other day but now when i turn full lock right my abs light advancetrac service warning comes on then goes out after wheels straight any ideas what it could be?? 2015 f250 6.2l

[@DieselMike]

Check that the ABS line is properly routed and seated back onto the sensor. Insure that there are no kinks in the line when you turn the wheels that far. Aside from that, perhaps the grease just needs to be worked a bit into the hub, away from the sensor.

[@dillonkaitypeters5132]

Diesel mike went for a long trip and it hasnt done it since maybe grease was blocking the sensor from reading???

[@DieselMike]

@@dillonkaitypeters5132 That would be my guess. Glad it worked out. Good luck.

[@offgridtx3043]

That won't do anything for the bearing the 08 don't use needle bearings they use a roller and it's sealed the grease won't get to the bearing that's a waste.

[@TheDeadMan3848]

@@offgridtx3043 they are sealed on the outside, not on the inside. This works, the grease will get to the rollers if you push it in

[@wisdomoflips]

@DieselMike How are these holding up a year later?

[@DieselMike]

No good. See response I just posted to Soldiers Craft above. I'll pin that post.

[@stevenpellegrino997]

Take a small rubber hose. The size of your vent hose. Put it on the vent. Then to your tiny bottle. And squeeze the oil in🤔🤔🤔🤔😁

[@RankinAedx21789]

A +

[@DieselMike]

Thanks. Appreciate the watch and comment!

[@oscarlopez5857]

👌

[@DieselMike]

Thanks for watching and commenting!

[@UnderdogTraining1]

OCD are we?

[@DieselMike]

I've been told.

[@KingRatt]

This will not grease the wheel it is a sealed bearing and that is what fails on these hubs.

[@DieselMike]

You are correct. This method only adds grease to the outside splines of the bearing. I still believe it is good maintenance. That said, one of my new OEM hubs failed after 3-1/2 years (see response I just posted above to Soldiers Craft comment)

[@KingRatt]

@@DieselMike I had a moog fail in less time than that. I am going own this time.

[@KingRatt]

@@DieselMike You grease them on install using high temperature grease.