How to Set Floats on Edelbrock Carburetors

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2 жыл бұрын

Setting the floats on an Edelbrock carb isn't difficult. There are a couple little details on how to do it as well as a tip for setting a different height level. I'll show you all the details so you'll be an expert on this common setting. Check it out!
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@williamrummel3938
@williamrummel3938 Жыл бұрын
Dude thank god you made this video. I’m doing my first Edelbrock carb rebuild tonight and one float was like jammed into the air box
@MuscleCarSolutions
@MuscleCarSolutions Жыл бұрын
Good luck with your rebuild!
@jammiewright8249
@jammiewright8249 Жыл бұрын
It’s been 15 years sense I’ve rebuilt a carb and your video was spot on ! Thank you!
@MuscleCarSolutions
@MuscleCarSolutions Жыл бұрын
Killer! Glad they were helpful!
@solarflare4259
@solarflare4259 10 ай бұрын
Very instructive video. It's my first carb rebuild. My son purchased a Sierra Classic with a 327 engine and a 1406 carb installed. It would start with starter fluid and when engine was warmed up but would not start when cold... Just purchased the #1477 kit from the Edelbrock and it does not include the floats and the accelerator pump anymore...It seems they are being sold separately... Thank you for posting!
@pjc5437
@pjc5437 2 жыл бұрын
I really like the way you do your videos. Plenty of good info.
@MuscleCarSolutions
@MuscleCarSolutions 2 жыл бұрын
I do appreciate that. I just try to give all the info so the viewer doesn’t just know how, but WHY. Hoping it just makes folks better at what they are working on.
@thedobermangang3503
@thedobermangang3503 2 жыл бұрын
@@MuscleCarSolutions YOU DOING A GOOD JOB...
@mrbeatty13able
@mrbeatty13able 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Needed this
@VinoRatRodbuilds
@VinoRatRodbuilds 2 жыл бұрын
Great job on class today professor! 😁👍
@MuscleCarSolutions
@MuscleCarSolutions 2 жыл бұрын
ha! Thanks boss! Appreciate it.
@hybridmusclegarage4590
@hybridmusclegarage4590 2 жыл бұрын
Great Info!!
@MuscleCarSolutions
@MuscleCarSolutions 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir!
@tapa2466
@tapa2466 Жыл бұрын
Nobody does a actually legit truly informative video (like your videos) of what to do if the car runs and idles fine in park and neutral, but stalls after a few seconds in drive at idle. Specifically for that conduction. I’ve watched many videos by now that explain every carb or timing adjustment I could make. But they all talk about troubleshooting some other type of issue. Have narrowed down the issue but would be nice if maybe for someone else with same issue, can watch a video for that condition and not have to go searching symptoms or issues that they arnt really having just to get an idea of where to look or start. Some videos troubleshoot poor idle/ hesitation but it’s not the same thing. The condition that idles perfect , but when put in drive, the car really wants to stay running but reluctantly stalls after or goes really low rpm after few seconds. Simply raising idle rpm fixes it but that’s not resolving , say , maybe it’s stalling because of a rich or lean condition. Idk!? Who talks about it so I can know?
@MuscleCarSolutions
@MuscleCarSolutions Жыл бұрын
Sorry you’re disappointed. There are a number of things that you could try to cure that condition. Unfortunately they’re also in a number of other videos but watching those sounds like was the issue for you. Best of luck.
@tapa2466
@tapa2466 Жыл бұрын
@@MuscleCarSolutions that’s probably why there’s not many videos on it specifically. Because like you mentioned, there’s a number of ways to cure it. Thanks man. 💯 any input helps.
@thedobermangang3503
@thedobermangang3503 2 жыл бұрын
VERY GOOD VIDEO MY BROTHER YOU WOULD BE A EXCELLENT INSTRUCTOR..LET ME KNOW WHEN YOUR CLASSES OPEN UP SO I CAN ENROLL....
@MuscleCarSolutions
@MuscleCarSolutions 2 жыл бұрын
You’re enrolled! Video classes are up and ready to teach! Live classes are open occasionally on the weekends!
@user-nn9py1he3u
@user-nn9py1he3u 11 ай бұрын
I have a dual quad set up and having an issue with the motor wanting to stall like it’s running out of fuel when taking a corner , I feel that the floats are to low and need adjustment would you agree ?
@stephenhaack9458
@stephenhaack9458 8 ай бұрын
Hi, thanks for all the help I'm rebuilding a 1406 for my motor home, in th kit I have it has the spring loaded needles they say for off road applications, so I'm not sure which to use if I'm gonna be hitting a logging road if it's a big deal??? And how to adjust because the springs are so light on the needles that the float makes it way more difficult to get proper, I was thinking maybe run the solid needle to setup for the spring loaded ones, I'm not sure if you have a better way than I'm thinking, I appreciate all your vids and info thru my rebuild, thanks it's been great 👍👍
@MuscleCarSolutions
@MuscleCarSolutions 8 ай бұрын
What Edelbrock rebuild kit did you purchase that has off road needle and seats?
@thomaskingdon1177
@thomaskingdon1177 Жыл бұрын
I just got a elderbrock carburetor for my 69 pickup and it idles good it goes through the gears good except for when I'm going uphill climb it starts losing power & putters is that the float possibly? It's a manual choke so I'll pull out the choke when it starts acting up and it fixes the problem
@MuscleCarSolutions
@MuscleCarSolutions Жыл бұрын
You pull the choke closed or open?
@MrHctim57
@MrHctim57 Жыл бұрын
Good video. thank you. But I am puzzled by the height measurement vs the drop measurement.....once you adjust the float height just right when you then adjust the float drop it changes the 7/16" or 1/2" gap you adjusted first. I am thinking that float drop may not be required since the float will always hit the bottom of the carb float bowl before reaching the full drop when adjustment is made with the 2 halves separated.
@MuscleCarSolutions
@MuscleCarSolutions Жыл бұрын
I suppose it could but the height is set by tweaking the entire bracket with a little bend. The drop is a little tab on the back side that hits the needle body to limit the range of motion. You’re not wrong that float drop might not be as important. I did a funny video on that for a guy with the same type of question.
@oldschool-ef4jz
@oldschool-ef4jz Жыл бұрын
Need help with fuel coming up thur the needle and seat after shut down . Carburetor is a edelbrock avs2 659 Carburetor is on a 1987 chevy truck that was originally tbi , engine has been rebuilt hei distributor dual tank fuel pressure regulator 5.5 psi I did however have issues with fuel return being blocked and caused fuel pressure to go very high since then that's all be corrected any idea or help would be greatly appreciated maybe if possible I could speak to you on the phone thanks for any help Steve
@MuscleCarSolutions
@MuscleCarSolutions Жыл бұрын
I’d go right back to the regulator or the return line. Did you buy one of those adjustable pressure kits? I don’t recall what the stock pressure was on the tbi engines but it was way more than what a carburetor will handle.
@bengone3349
@bengone3349 Жыл бұрын
I have watched several of your videos, each with very good content. Question, my 1406 idle is acting up and down, being unstable, dropping from 800 rpm to 500-600. When I had to stop suddenly today on an incline, it dropped to shut off. Which adjustment of the floats am I dealing with? Thanks!
@MuscleCarSolutions
@MuscleCarSolutions Жыл бұрын
Well, there’s a few things that come to mind. How much of an incline? Was this driving on road or in an off road situation? I did a video on the latter if that’s your situation. If it’s on road, I’d keep it simple first. Make sure the floats are operating. Reset them. Check the needle and seats for garbage or blockage. Check filters. What is your regulator set to? Might make a slight adjustment there as well. Timing is the last thing to be aware of. Yes I know it might be a carb issue, but fuel and spark go together. Take the opportunity to verify.
@bengone3349
@bengone3349 Жыл бұрын
@@MuscleCarSolutions The car is a '67 Vette, 327/350 plus w/CDI ignition, Unilite, headers, reworked headers, 3:36 /4-spd. It will break the tires loose at 20mph...plenty of power! No pinging, no hitching! The incline was about 5* at a stop sign on a paved street. Floats are operating, no trash found, needle and seat clean, filter clean and flowing. I do not use a regulator. Timing is 15* initial + 19* centrif. Today I pulled the top off and the floats were off in both settings. I reset height to 7/16 and drop to 15/16. Later today I'll do another road test and report back.
@bengone3349
@bengone3349 Жыл бұрын
Update...as stated, I reset the floats. Did 32 miles today. Tried to recreate the issues I had previously under the conditions described and then some...NO problems reoccured it ran great. I''l do a fuel milage test this week. I'm claiming victory!
@kraschsclassics
@kraschsclassics Жыл бұрын
I would like to see the effect of fuel pressure on the fuel level. I had one the accelerator pump wasn't filling due to low fuel level. This is the difference between the Holley and Edelbrock. Holley sets fuel level. Edelbrock sets float level.
@MuscleCarSolutions
@MuscleCarSolutions Жыл бұрын
Both accomplish the exact same thing. As soon as I can work out how to demonstrate fuel flow and pressure without it costing a fortune, you’ll see it right here.
@mrblanche
@mrblanche Жыл бұрын
OK, a practical question that occurred to me today while I was looking at the AVS2 in my T bucket. Due to the angle of the frame, the engine actually sits down a little in the front. The result is that the front of the carb is lower than the rear. By my understanding, that means that the floats, set normally, will be too high in the front, due to the depth of the fuel at the front of the carb. What corrections (short of an angled spacer under the carb) can I or should I make?
@MuscleCarSolutions
@MuscleCarSolutions Жыл бұрын
Are you experiencing any starvation or flooding issues? If not I’d leave it. If you are then i suppose leveling it out would be a fix. Is that angle extreme?
@mrblanche
@mrblanche Жыл бұрын
@@MuscleCarSolutions I would guess it's down about 5 degrees in the front. The Moroso 65030 angled carb spacer would probably fix it, but I can't say that I'm actually experiencing any problems due to the angle.
@MuscleCarSolutions
@MuscleCarSolutions Жыл бұрын
@@mrblanche that’s good. I guess I’ll have to pay more attention to that as we go through the summer months and the street rods are out. If you’re not having issues, it must be happy!
@stanjohnson1770
@stanjohnson1770 Жыл бұрын
If my fuel is draining back to tank after sitting for a few days. Would my issue be the float seat?
@InternationalEducat
@InternationalEducat 6 ай бұрын
I have heard that is a leak where air is bleeding into your fuel line
@brigond1
@brigond1 11 ай бұрын
I love your videos. I think the popularity of those fuel injection systems for old cars is going down. IMO, your videos will only get more traction . I almost bought one .
@MuscleCarSolutions
@MuscleCarSolutions 11 ай бұрын
That’s the beauty of building a car. There’s options out there for everything! Some want to use EFI, some carburetors. It’s all good! 👍
@brigond1
@brigond1 11 ай бұрын
@MuscleCarSolutions True, there are positives with Fuel injection systems. For me, the negative outweigh the positive. There are so many issues that people have with them as well as the cost. When and if they eventually make them as reliable as carburetors , I'll be a buyer.
@MuscleCarSolutions
@MuscleCarSolutions 11 ай бұрын
@@brigond1 don’t know. If you get the fuel system right, it’s impossible to get them wrong. Oddly enough, the same goes with a carburetor. 😉
@hutchhiperf
@hutchhiperf 5 ай бұрын
Have you tried to adjust the driver side float to carry a little bit more fuel to see if it prevented the primary starve issue? Have you seen the problem lessened by using the dual fuel inlet (both pass. and driver side)? Thanks for making these Edel Carb videos. Very informative.
@MuscleCarSolutions
@MuscleCarSolutions 5 ай бұрын
Yes you can carry just a touch more with a different float setting. I’d say the dual line can help, but in reality when I’ve tried that with folks who have noticed that issue, it still remains. But that’s under extremely aggressive cornering. Glad you’re enjoying the videos! I appreciate the comments. Thank you!
@MuscleCarSolutions
@MuscleCarSolutions 5 ай бұрын
Also checking out your channel. Subscribed!
@hutchhiperf
@hutchhiperf 5 ай бұрын
@@MuscleCarSolutions I'm subscribed as well.
@hutchhiperf
@hutchhiperf 5 ай бұрын
@@MuscleCarSolutions here's the last I'll say on the subject. In a forum, someone had written that an Edel. Tech had recommended blocking the channel that connects the two sides with a piece of vacuum hose. I wonder, as the fuel runs to one side, that it creeps through the channel to the other bowl.
@davidwaldo9180
@davidwaldo9180 Жыл бұрын
Which size drill bit? Are using for apex of float????
@MuscleCarSolutions
@MuscleCarSolutions Жыл бұрын
This sizes are in the video
@sallyho21
@sallyho21 Жыл бұрын
Thanks, great video!
@mojojojos4843
@mojojojos4843 Жыл бұрын
when I looked at Edelbrock's instructions for the upper float bowl setting. the picture seemed to be instead of the curve apex but about one-half inch in. I think that your measurement is more intuitive.
@MuscleCarSolutions
@MuscleCarSolutions Жыл бұрын
I switched to the tip for two reasons. The dimple that’s mid float body is a bit subjective and I don’t think delivers very consistent results across everyone setting their float level. Does it really matter if it’s off a little? Not really. The other reason why I choose to use the end of the float is control the total amount of fuel in the carburetor based on todays ethanol blended fuels. Just my way of doing it. Following the Edelbrock instructions isn’t a bad thing.
@SysAdm4U
@SysAdm4U Күн бұрын
Can you please clarify exactly on the float you are making your 15/16" drop measurement? The back end, the top edge (really bottom edge of the float), etc.. etc..? Maybe hold a pencil up to where your are reading the measurement... You never say where you are measuring the 15/16th float drop to on the float.
@MuscleCarSolutions
@MuscleCarSolutions Күн бұрын
Tip of the float.
@sendit9129
@sendit9129 10 ай бұрын
If a float is improperly set, does it overflow out of the small ports located on the rear of the secondaries? Sorry for the stupid question.. late model diesel specialist here, trying to fix my boat. lol
@MuscleCarSolutions
@MuscleCarSolutions 10 ай бұрын
Sure. Or something blocking the needle and seat open. Or if it’s getting too much pressure. Could be a few things! Start digging. You’ll find it.
@sendit9129
@sendit9129 10 ай бұрын
Pulled the carb last night, ordered a rebuild kit this morning and got it tore down, put it (mostly) together after work today. Float height on both sides was roughly 5/16 clearance.. if not worse. Float drop was almost 1.5ins on both sides. Passenger side fuel screw was out 3 turns. And overall the thing was nasty. Brought home my basic fuel pressure test kit.. 5-6psi. Hoping this wraps up my problems lol . Bank 2 was so flooded it was beginning to wash the carbon off the plugs.. can't believe the thing still hit on all 6. Anyways.. we will see this weekend. Thanks for this video man. I really appreciate it.@@MuscleCarSolutions
@RastusMcbride
@RastusMcbride Жыл бұрын
Looking at the Edlebrock diagram was more useful to me, all that fiddling and "apex" jargon was confusing things unnecessarily imo. Shove the bit in there about 1/3 of the way in, let the float sit on it and you want zero clearance.
@toronjillo2
@toronjillo2 9 ай бұрын
Do i have to do this on a new carb
@MuscleCarSolutions
@MuscleCarSolutions 9 ай бұрын
Absolutely 100%. Have you seen how UPS treats packages? They get thrown around like Ace Ventura is your delivery guy. You’d better reset them.
@toronjillo2
@toronjillo2 9 ай бұрын
@@MuscleCarSolutions even the ones in autozone?
@MuscleCarSolutions
@MuscleCarSolutions 9 ай бұрын
@@toronjillo2 yes.
@jotork3774
@jotork3774 Жыл бұрын
MmI am running rich at idle.....does this apply?
@MuscleCarSolutions
@MuscleCarSolutions Жыл бұрын
It can. Just have to go through the steps and figure out why. Check out my video on how to set idle mixture. Make sure your fuel pressure is between 4.5-6 psi. Make sure your transfer slots aren’t exposed. And yes set the floats and make sure the needle and seats are operating and in good condition.
@r.joseph8911
@r.joseph8911 Жыл бұрын
You don’t explain exactly what the reference point is on the float body for the drop measurement. Is it at the furthest point away from the fulcrum pin, i.e. the opposite end of the float?
@MuscleCarSolutions
@MuscleCarSolutions Жыл бұрын
Oops! You missed it. At the 5:19 mark tells where I take the measurement.
@timmycolson7403
@timmycolson7403 2 жыл бұрын
Hey MCS, l have a 355 with a Lunati solid lift cam w/ a .525/.550 lift, dur.@50 247/255, LSA/ICL 106/100. I’m running a Quick Fuel 650 double pumper and have 5-7 “ of vacuum. Can not get hardly any adjustment on the air adjustments. Anything below 1000 rpm it doesn’t like it. Do you have any advice on drilling the butterfly’s 3/32”. I’ve taken the carb off and transfer slots are just about totally exposed. Thanks for any help, from the Lowcountry of SC, Timmy
@MuscleCarSolutions
@MuscleCarSolutions 2 жыл бұрын
It’s one of the pitfalls of running such a large cam on a street engine. Your last option and only one at this point might be to drill the throttle plates. Start as small as you can and work your way up. Only problem is once you drill them… you can’t go back!
@timmycolson7403
@timmycolson7403 2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate your input, I really like your videos, thanks for getting back to me. God bless you and yours 🙏
@MuscleCarSolutions
@MuscleCarSolutions 2 жыл бұрын
@@timmycolson7403 very much appreciate that sir! Thank you! Best of luck with your tuning.
@timmycolson7403
@timmycolson7403 2 жыл бұрын
I have 2 1405’s and a 1407, I really like the edelbrocks so I’m going to play around with them, I think I’m going to start with the 1407 🤞
@MuscleCarSolutions
@MuscleCarSolutions 2 жыл бұрын
They aren’t nearly as complicated as the keyboard warriors make them out to be. They meter fuel. They do it very well if you put them in the right circumstances. Just like anything else. But it’s easier to blame an inanimate object than take responsibility for poor choices. Have fun with it! Let me know if you have any questions. I’m trying to finish building out the Edelbrock carburetor videos with topics that need a little more detail. Have a good one on accelerator pumps coming out tomorrow!
@MichaelCrawford-oe7ug
@MichaelCrawford-oe7ug Жыл бұрын
My carb is no getting fuel to the driver side why?
@MuscleCarSolutions
@MuscleCarSolutions Жыл бұрын
The transfer slot in the back blocked?
@MichaelCrawford-oe7ug
@MichaelCrawford-oe7ug Жыл бұрын
@@MuscleCarSolutions thanks dirt dauber where in it runs like new after the kit.
@bobbykately9621
@bobbykately9621 9 ай бұрын
Do you really need to do this to a brand new carb from factory?
@MuscleCarSolutions
@MuscleCarSolutions 9 ай бұрын
Absolutely 100%. Unless you picked it up at their location in Sanford NC (you can’t). After it gets shipped from there to their warehouse in MS, then freighted to whatever retailer you bought it from and then shipping it to you…yeah I’d verify the float settings. If you’ve ever seen how carriers handle any package, it’s easy to see why that float can get knocked out of adjustment. Take the five minutes to verify and reset if necessary.
@bradripley9859
@bradripley9859 2 жыл бұрын
Okay video, but I have to say you don't clearly explain the purpose and importance of the float drop adjustment. Float drop dictates the travel of the needle valve from closed to full open. Not enough float drop = not enough needle valve travel. It's like opening the faucet only half-way or possibly less; the carburetor bowl may not refill fast enough during high demand, resulting in a lean mixture. If the float drop is excessive, the needle valve can travel so far that it may bind in its bore and fail to shut off, causing the carb to flood, and now you get to take the top off again to find your mistake. Hope this helps someone.
@MuscleCarSolutions
@MuscleCarSolutions 2 жыл бұрын
Doesn’t matter really. If I make a 13 minute long video, people complain it’s too long and I should get to the point. Make a 3 minute video and people complain there’s not enough info. I’m pretty good at ignoring it. But if you want to make a 30 minute video on setting floats, KZbin is a big place.
@MuscleCarSolutions
@MuscleCarSolutions 2 жыл бұрын
There ya go Brad. I answered your question in this weeks video. I think you’ll find the results enlightening.
@russellapplegate5661
@russellapplegate5661 5 ай бұрын
I like your videos. Very helpful to me!
@mrpowers96
@mrpowers96 2 ай бұрын
You never say where you are measuring the 15/16th float drop to on the float. I guess the end point on the float. Great video though. I need to pull my carb off and check as it seems to be loading up. Thanks
@55chevytruck
@55chevytruck Жыл бұрын
I hate these floats. A holly style is a piece of cake compared to these.
@tomreyn3610
@tomreyn3610 2 жыл бұрын
Simple. - don’t need a video. Its covered in the book.
@MuscleCarSolutions
@MuscleCarSolutions 2 жыл бұрын
Yet here you are!
@craigcrawford8549
@craigcrawford8549 2 жыл бұрын
Too much repetition
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