How To Set Pressure Treated 4x4 Wood Posts In Concrete (VERY STRONG!)

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The Honest Carpenter

The Honest Carpenter

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@TheHonestCarpenter
@TheHonestCarpenter Ай бұрын
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@johnnycasady6775
@johnnycasady6775 4 жыл бұрын
No matter how smart I think I am, somebody comes along with a simple idea that blows me away.
@dcr00k
@dcr00k 3 жыл бұрын
KZbin and paint make you the Carpenter you ain’t.
@Romans6.1-2
@Romans6.1-2 2 жыл бұрын
😉 quit thinking you’re smart.
@erikbogart676
@erikbogart676 4 жыл бұрын
I will use 8" #4 rebar, drill a 1/2 hole through the post 2" apart 1 going each way. If you are using a proper 12" hole the will leave the rebar 2" clearance on each side from the soil. It's called uplift protection and we have to include it on pole building construction. I use post to the ground as my handrail stanchions, so I always do it on my perimeter and stair case posts. To your other point about leaving the concrete down from finish grade, here we have freeze and thaw cycles. If you don't leave your concrete down 6" surface freeze can and will get under the flare at the top and raise the concrete up. I've seen it grab 6" concrete bollards and raise them 4" in a single season. I've never taken the time to slope the cap away from the post, but that is good work, I'm always happy to see someone who does something better than I do it, today I have gained another step at becoming the best. You had me by 1 for sure
@zjedinite
@zjedinite 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve been doing this for YEARS! It just made common sense to me. I just use 1/2 rebar since I always have prices left over. I mass cut them at 4” I drill about 1” 1/2 deep using a 15/32 drill bit. Rebar goes in with a gentle tap of the hammer. I use this for ALL corner post and railings like this guy. I feel sorry for the poor sap that needs to remove my post. Strong post without Cialis! 🤣🤣🤣
@morningthunder
@morningthunder 4 жыл бұрын
Great tip! When I set posts for decks or stair railings, I take a 3/8” auger bit and drill holes at roughly 45 degrees and drive 3/8” rebar through the posts into the ground surrounding the post. If you do this on two sides, you can plumb the post easily before pouring concrete and the concrete, when poured, surrounds the rebar, but generally the rebar extends through the concrete into the earth. I walked away from many jobs knowing that the work was solid and secured.
@Jaydayallday
@Jaydayallday 4 жыл бұрын
Nice trick. Thinking that even would help fence post that is holding gate.
@plainolamerican1557
@plainolamerican1557 4 жыл бұрын
I enjoy your videos young man. Just a hint about those levels, the yellow plastic tabs in the center are for your rubber band, slip knot one on one side and it will stay on. all you have to do is pull it around your post and hook it on the other tab.
@sticknstonesbrkbones
@sticknstonesbrkbones 4 жыл бұрын
I had one of those post levels and over the years it disappeared. Now im doing a job and bought a new one, I almost lost that damn rubber band twice, why I haven't come up with this simple solution on my own is beyond me lol good tip. PRO TIP! thanks for post
@ianphillips5624
@ianphillips5624 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks I would’ve never realized that myself
@sergeykazantsev1
@sergeykazantsev1 3 жыл бұрын
Or small bungee cord with small hooks
@birdog874555
@birdog874555 3 жыл бұрын
For an extra heavy duty post (for a gate or handrail), use galvanized lag bolts and dig the base of the hole wider than the top. Frost heave won't push it up, and the lag bolts lock it down. You can also give the part of the post that will be below grade a coating of blackjack and allow it to dry before sinking them.
@slearl
@slearl 3 жыл бұрын
Good tip. However, I'm not really looking to buy a 5 gallon jug of Blackjack; do you think FlexSeal would work just as good?
@supremelawfirm
@supremelawfirm 3 жыл бұрын
Asphalt emulsion is usually pretty cheap at a building supply store. Buy a cheap paint brush and just paint it onto the lower portion of each post that contacts concrete or soil below grade. You don't need to use a full gallon, unless you're setting lots of posts; and, the lid can be re-used, to save the left-over emulsion for another day. Wood really should not remain in direct contact with concrete, because concrete "weeps"; and, the chemicals in normal concrete are corrosive to natural wood, over a long period of time. Before I knew better, I mixed up a batch of concrete by myself, and then I knelt in it: I ended up with second-degree burns on my knees! The ER doctor prescribed "silvadene" cream, which saved the day; everything else I had tried did nothing to heal those burns. Remember, wood was a living organism before it was harvested. Another really good practice, if you have the time and money, is to set the bottom of each post in about 2 inches of Cuprinol, over night. An empty gallon paint can is good for this step. Very often, standard pressure treatments do not actually reach the core of each post. But, since wood loves to "wick", overnight each post will wick the Cuprinol into its core, giving each post's portion below grade that much more protection. Hope this helps!
@caltch
@caltch 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder why the guy above you in the comments made pretty much the exact same comment you did.
@supremelawfirm
@supremelawfirm 3 жыл бұрын
@@caltch I don't know what "Blackjack" is. A card game, maybe? LOL :) Can you point us to a product page, please? Does it come in quantities smaller than 5 gallons? Sometimes these building suppliers attach a fancy name to a product, so they can charge more. When I have shopped for "asphalt emulsion" in the past, building supply stores always knew exactly what I meant.
@supremelawfirm
@supremelawfirm 3 жыл бұрын
found "Black Jack" at Lowes e.g. "Formula is urethane enhanced " the asphalt emulsion I have used in the past did not have any fancy ingredients: the tar component is simply suspended in a water base which evaporates as it dries on contact with any common surface. The water base helps the emulsion penetrate wood fibers before it dries completely. I doubt that urethane is worth the extra cost, if the application is fence posts below grade. Other applications, I wouldn't know. Thanks!
@ryans.8294
@ryans.8294 3 жыл бұрын
I've used that trick for years. Really works.
@johnkirkwood3445
@johnkirkwood3445 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Ethan. Just getting ready to set a couple “F” shaped kayak racks I made with with 4 x 4 support posts. I was concerned because of the stress the kayaks will create on the post settings and possibility of eventual slanting. This is an awesome idea. Thank you!
@rogerenscore653
@rogerenscore653 6 жыл бұрын
Neat tip, Ethan! My daughter told me to check out your channel and I've already learned a couple of helpful things. I'll be watching for more.
@TheHonestCarpenter
@TheHonestCarpenter 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Roger! I’m glad it’s been helpful. I’ll be posting more soon!
@grinpick
@grinpick 3 жыл бұрын
Good advice. Also I always try to stand the post up off the ground at the bottom with a piece of concrete or stone which is smaller than the bottom of the post. (A doby block works well for a 6x6.) This results in the concrete flowing under the post. Without this step the wood post is resting directly on dirt, which does not support it as well as the concrete would. This is more significant when the post is going to support a heavy vertical load and yes, granted, this step would be less important when you're using screws to lock the post to the concrete, as you suggest. Might seem like overkill, but if you're hoping for that post to be solid for 25-30 years it could make the difference. And it costs very little extra in time or money.
@Power5
@Power5 3 жыл бұрын
I throw gravel, if I have some, or a couple handfulls of dry mix into the bottom. Biggest reason is to block the bottom of the post from becoming a straw and sucking moisture into the post. Over a long enough time line that will allow the post to suck up enough water to rot it.
@GirthosaurusRex
@GirthosaurusRex 3 жыл бұрын
@@pete7413 just stain your fence every year. Then if for whatever reason you have a post rot just replace the post and reattach the fence. Post $7 concrete $3
@strobed22
@strobed22 2 жыл бұрын
@@GirthosaurusRex Everyone's situation is different. Very weird to give such a broad statement.
@GirthosaurusRex
@GirthosaurusRex 2 жыл бұрын
@@strobed22 I have a fence company so I do know a little about it
@GirthosaurusRex
@GirthosaurusRex 2 жыл бұрын
@@strobed22 you want to set your post with just a little less than a 60lb. more stuff you do to keep it in the harder it is to pull out and replace
@BeaconRI
@BeaconRI Жыл бұрын
this is awesome. i'm using a post to attach a retractable hose and this will definitely help over time. i may do it on all 4 sides.
@lewishall24
@lewishall24 3 жыл бұрын
Nice tip, I like to have a layer of gravel in the bottom of the hole and poly/paint just the bottom of the post, gives a capiliary break to stop the wood still pulling water upwards like its still part of a tree
@tba776
@tba776 4 жыл бұрын
Great idea. Will employ this idea for the two 4x4 posts going in the ground for hammock support.
@raywalsh8807
@raywalsh8807 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks set tons of post and never thought of this.
@robprice6573
@robprice6573 3 жыл бұрын
A cool trick, I am putting in a mailbox, will use this technique on the post on all for sides
@iackin0
@iackin0 4 жыл бұрын
52 years old and learn something new. Ty sir
@alanlurie8675
@alanlurie8675 8 ай бұрын
Yeah, I’ve done that too. All wood rots over time. I began doing post in chain link fence metal post and the dressing them up via through bolting pressure treated wood to make them look like wood. It will be strong as hell and last forever.
@markdoblekar2093
@markdoblekar2093 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent tip. I won't have thought of this, but will use this when I set my mailbox post.
@rico1319
@rico1319 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve set a lot of posts in my time and never done it like that. That’s a damn good idea! Thank you keep up the good work!! 👍👍👍😎🇨🇱
@TheHonestCarpenter
@TheHonestCarpenter 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Rico!
@lanajantz2240
@lanajantz2240 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheHonestCarpenter I'm putting in ground a 3'x 2' cross made of cedar; cedar is cut into 2"x 4". I would like to use this technique. I am Thinking 1 screw on each 2" side and 2 on each side of the 4" straddling the rebar in the bottom. Bar is sticking out of the bottom about 4" drilled about 4" into wood. I Got elected to apply Spar Urethane coating on it and put it in concrete, in ground. I do not know what I'm doing. Should I put small grade rock for rebar? Or not? The hole is 8" to 10" deep.
@mle1ravens1
@mle1ravens1 8 ай бұрын
​@@lanajantz2240...damn just straight up tried to snipe Rico's comment 😂 why not ask on the regular comment thread?
@Jessicaran
@Jessicaran 8 ай бұрын
The screws to grab....fn GENIUS! THANK YOU!
@richlewis4740
@richlewis4740 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. I actually knew about the screw/nail "tree" to lock the post in, and have done that successfully with a climbing/swing structure in the past. The real find here was learning about that "post level." I ordered one right away.
@TheHonestCarpenter
@TheHonestCarpenter 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching, Rich! Man, that thing is a game changer, especially for anyone who works alone :)
@scottiver
@scottiver 4 жыл бұрын
Post level only works on short straight posts. Most posts are NOT perfectly straight. Using a tiny 8" long level will not work for longer posts (fence posts) you need at least a 4ft long level to bridge any deviations or curve in the post. (40 yrs experience)
@terrycole127
@terrycole127 4 жыл бұрын
Rich Lewis =The post level is like a line level, can be very inaccurate. Need at least a four foot or longer level to go from bottom to top of vertical column. Clamp three quarter boards on the top and bottom of column and put your level against these boards. Most treated posts are not straight, this will give you a true plumb.
@normferguson2769
@normferguson2769 4 жыл бұрын
I had to remove a 4x4 post that the original installer had put anchoring screws into 40 years earlier. It took chains and a car jack to pull it out of the compacted dirt and most of an afternoon. I said a few choice words about that concept.
@billhamilton7524
@billhamilton7524 4 жыл бұрын
an afternoon on one post ??,,why not just dig around it
@johndeggendorf7826
@johndeggendorf7826 4 жыл бұрын
...so, I guess it works!
@eddieb35
@eddieb35 4 жыл бұрын
40 years LMAO
@danesstang9307
@danesstang9307 4 жыл бұрын
then you're a weakling
@nigelclark7360
@nigelclark7360 3 жыл бұрын
Because the right type of wood was used.
@georgiaguardian4696
@georgiaguardian4696 3 жыл бұрын
GREAT tips! Our fence has been blower away few months ago and it’s been fixed by a cheap fix that won’t last.,when we want to replace it we will use these tips!
@troylee3179
@troylee3179 4 жыл бұрын
Good idea, I dig out the bottom bigger than the top, soak the bottom with oil and tar and drive landscaping spikes in the post just as he did. I had to remove some two years ago and they looked like the day I set them. Zero decay fifteen years later. They call me Overkill lol
@jarrodderr
@jarrodderr 3 жыл бұрын
Dude I’m so glad I found this channel. 👍👍👍
@johnthree1611
@johnthree1611 3 жыл бұрын
I used a standoff post base recently for a post that I set for a handrail. It basically cements the metal piece that screws into the post into the ground, and keeps the post above ground, so it won't rott underneath the ground.
@essjay9836
@essjay9836 3 жыл бұрын
Great tip and I'm proud to say it's one I thought of all by myself ... but the one that got me was the elastic band around the corner level ... now why the eff didn't I think of that
@whathandleUtalkabt
@whathandleUtalkabt 4 жыл бұрын
What a savior. Thanks Ethan..great channel.
@scat4me
@scat4me 4 жыл бұрын
Before adding the screws and placing the new post in the hole apply a coat of roofing cement on the flour sides of the post to about 2 inches above grade. That along with the rocks for drainage would protect the post from rotting.
@garypetrol
@garypetrol 4 жыл бұрын
Yup...I agree..been doing that for years and works great...cheap and easy...
@sticknstonesbrkbones
@sticknstonesbrkbones 4 жыл бұрын
cant argue that. it is cheap and it is easy. and you wont have to go back until your teaching you grandkids how to do stuff lol
@xisotopex
@xisotopex 2 жыл бұрын
@@sticknstonesbrkbones planned obsolescence is part of my business plan
@blakerobertson9779
@blakerobertson9779 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! That's a great idea but why did you install the screws at that angle. Wouldn't they work the same angled down instead of up? That way, when the wood shrinks and water finds it's way between the wood and concrete it would be less apt to seep into the holes created by the screws, helping the pole last longer.
@Mountainlover1111
@Mountainlover1111 3 жыл бұрын
I LOVE it when my ideas are validated!!!!!!!
@GregJGreen
@GregJGreen 4 жыл бұрын
Never thought of doing this, thanks for the tip. 👍
@rosario5972
@rosario5972 Жыл бұрын
awesome, I'm building a lean to green house and need to set the posts. I like this trick
@eolden7749
@eolden7749 4 жыл бұрын
Once built a fence out of standard 4 x4s. Treated the posts with Thompsons water seal, stuck the posts in a plastic grocery bag, secured it with tape. Put it in the ground, poured concrete around them. Over ten years later still OK. (Treated is better if not on a budget. Of course the screws or nails will help.
@YSLRD
@YSLRD 4 жыл бұрын
Neat! I've been doing this for years. I feel so validated. Definitely looking for that corner level.
@plk5520
@plk5520 3 жыл бұрын
Post level. Commonly available at the most well known big box store. The one whose initials are the same as High Definition.
@jimm3370
@jimm3370 3 жыл бұрын
Wow. Great minds think alike! LOL 6 years ago I put up a fence on my property and thought that putting something in the posts to strengthen it's anchoring to the concrete would be a good idea. I used bigger screws- 1/4" x 5 b/c I'm...y'know...a talented amateur. Six years later... we've had some pretty damn windy days, blowing trees down and a couple of my neighbors had their fences blow over. But my waaay overbuilt fence (3-4' under grade: 7' high) and solid panels is as solid today as the day I put it in.
@doconnor1354
@doconnor1354 6 жыл бұрын
Great idea, Ethan. I need to replace a post that pull from the cinder block (step) wall that secured my handrail. I will try this when attaching the new railing and adding the footing. Thanks.
@TheHonestCarpenter
@TheHonestCarpenter 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Dennis! That’s exactly the reason I like to use this method with brick steps in particular. Contractors like the appearance of rail posts notched and anchored to the steps. But inevitably it breaks out the brickwork down there. This way is far more secure and helps trap that brickwork in place. Good luck with the project!
@04tommac
@04tommac 4 жыл бұрын
I'm going to steal idea this fair and square. Ha ha. Thanks for the tip!
@rsmith7292
@rsmith7292 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! Thanks --My next project happens to be two posts for a summer shade!
@virtuallyrealistic
@virtuallyrealistic 3 жыл бұрын
The only caution I would add is that when the concrete top around the post falls short of the soil line there is a risk of dry rot at the soil line. Now it does that years to happen probably about 10 years unless there is a sprinkler system that regularly soaks the posts dirt contact line, then its much sooner. It is not as pretty to mound the concrete to ensure water runs away from the exposed wood. I only have 30 years experience with these. I maintained a few hundreds ft ‘80’s era fence and a handrail around a pool stair way. I was really surprised how quickly the 4X4 treated posts were rotting at ground level so I switched to galvanized steel sign post supports ( buried in the concrete) bolted to the 4X4’s before I understood the problem. The county roadway guardrails here are all installed with mounded concrete around the base and last decades.
@matthewkubik3874
@matthewkubik3874 4 жыл бұрын
Used to tear out a lot of fence, and the post that were next to impossible to get out were the corner post that the old timers took worn old cultivator sweeps and nailed on upside down to the below grade portion of the post. They acted just like barbs on a fish hook! Those post refused to come out of the ground!
@scottiver
@scottiver 4 жыл бұрын
Post level only works on short straight posts. Most posts are NOT perfectly straight. Using a tiny 8" long level will not work for longer posts (fence posts) you need at least a 4ft long level to bridge any deviations or curves in the post. (40 yrs experience)
@jonathonlyles3349
@jonathonlyles3349 Жыл бұрын
Wow that is a big brain move right there great tip I’m going to do this at work and blow some ppls mind I’ll mention you thx ❤the show
@samueladams584
@samueladams584 3 жыл бұрын
Great tip.. I need to get some post installed soon and planned to try it myself.. this looks like a good idea if I use this method
@TokyoCraftsman
@TokyoCraftsman 4 жыл бұрын
Great tip. I've done something similar with steel post, drilling a 1/4" hole through the post, below grade, and running a 1' length of threaded rod with a couple of nuts to hold it in place, works great. One thing that I've had great success with a wooden post in the ground situation is to seal the bottom of the post. Here in Japan, we have a product that comes in a can that is a tar material, that you can spread on the bottom of the post to stop it from sucking up water. Yes PT wood will outlast regular wood, but when you seal the bottom of the post in the ground, it will take a VERY long time to rot. I liked and subscribed. Cheers from Tokyo!
@IvanMatasic
@IvanMatasic 4 жыл бұрын
Could you please tell me what its called, i would like to find the alternative in my country
@slingshoter8783
@slingshoter8783 4 жыл бұрын
@@IvanMatasic It is roofing tar i bet
@cerealkiller4248
@cerealkiller4248 4 жыл бұрын
I'm doing something similar at present, I'll nick the screw tree idea thanks, but I painted bitumen on the bottom of my posts as an added protection against rot.
@earlyriser8998
@earlyriser8998 3 жыл бұрын
Do you think bitumen will improve the concrete/post bond? Paint bitument then add the screws and you will have a perfect combination, I think.
@roryd2339
@roryd2339 Жыл бұрын
great idea i would also add waterproof paint to part of the post inground, ty
@greenpumpkin6650
@greenpumpkin6650 3 жыл бұрын
My dad used to drive 16 penny galvanized nails in posts like this. He was an old school carpenter.
@throwachair
@throwachair 3 жыл бұрын
miniature rebar, very good, nice video
@SuperAngelles
@SuperAngelles 4 жыл бұрын
That's really good advice. I do occasionally Handy Man work and fencing repairs I get a lot of request to do. This I will try. Thank you.
@skinpricker
@skinpricker 3 жыл бұрын
Yep and you can raise your fee for this a bit more without any complaints just by giving customers a 30 year warranty on each post you set.. Take a large chisel and lock into a vise with chisel end out. Use a cutting wheel and put notchs in the end of it.. after your post is cut to size and you've drawn your ground level line, tap that punch into each post slightly above the ground line giving it your unique mark/stamp and face that stamp in the same direction as all other stamped posts you set on that job site. This will ensure you the you or your company did indeed set the post if there's any issues, and each post can be easily and quickly checked if the stamps are all on the same side.
@6Ginge
@6Ginge 9 ай бұрын
Great idea. Don’t wiggle a post while the concrete is setting it will create a gap for water and debris if the concrete has dried enough that it won’t slump back.
@greglee1465
@greglee1465 4 жыл бұрын
Why are the most simple things so brilliant? Thank you. My post have been running on me for years.
@kbeasleyconstruction
@kbeasleyconstruction 4 жыл бұрын
Great idea. Been a carpenter for 34 years and have seen alot of wobbly post at steps. That post will shrink when it dries out and will leave a 1/4" gap. Seen some with no concrete and they definitely will get loose.
@darylhill9400
@darylhill9400 4 жыл бұрын
Personally I take the extra time to put roof tar on the post that goes underground and a little Gravel in the bottom! But the screws are a good idea, thanks.
@mrchulondon
@mrchulondon 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah I've done that in the recent past too. Only problem is that the part of the post that's above ground gathers water which drains and gets trapped because it can't flow through the tar. This leads to rotting.
@CrashboatAl
@CrashboatAl 4 жыл бұрын
Great ! Good to know Ethan. Thank you.
@brianwiseman9518
@brianwiseman9518 3 жыл бұрын
This just makes so much sense
@parallelburrito
@parallelburrito 4 жыл бұрын
Everyone seems to have an opinion on this but I always wrap my post with flashing where they exit the ground. This keeps the microbes in the soil from attacking the wood. Most don't understand that pressure treating is done to discourage the microbes but only last so long. You'll see a lot of wood utility poles installed this way. Water alone does not rot wood so it's not really the issue that people make it out to be when setting post.
@paulsullivan445
@paulsullivan445 3 жыл бұрын
I have been using this method for a long time except I use big sturdy galvanised nails and use 6 - 8 per side at different angles. Good tip of making hole bigger at bottom, pitch also a good idea. Stand post onto plastic (tarp off-cut) prevents moisture moving up inside post from below.
@mle1ravens1
@mle1ravens1 8 ай бұрын
What about the moisture trying to escape the wood down low? It seems like it would just sit in it's own puddle at that point...wouldn't something like pea-gravel be a better idea?
@dcr00k
@dcr00k 3 жыл бұрын
This is a good trick.
@狼-n7s
@狼-n7s 3 жыл бұрын
Wonderful. Never thought about that before. Thanks mate.
@lightintheworld1111
@lightintheworld1111 4 жыл бұрын
This is such a creative idea and I bet it works like magic. I’m going to use this technique when I lay my posts out. Thank you so much❤️
@Seighme
@Seighme 4 жыл бұрын
Since as concrete dries, being a rock sponge, it sucks the moisture out of your 4x4, have you considered wrapping the post in roofing felt/tar paper to preserve the post? Drive your screws after wrapping the post, then cut the paper at the concrete line. -Maybe tack it in place first. Try driving your screws straight in about an inch, then backing them out and driving them again at that angle you want-easier and faster then moving then by hand, plus no risk of bending the screws. Your screws act as rebar, and I love the idea, thanks!
@debmartinez6591
@debmartinez6591 3 жыл бұрын
Learned a lot thanks 😊for cool tricks ideas
@TheHonestCarpenter
@TheHonestCarpenter 3 жыл бұрын
You’re welcome, Deb! 🙂
@rogerpullin8997
@rogerpullin8997 3 жыл бұрын
My dad taught me that 40 years ago, only we used nails, remember nails, driven by a hammer, you recharged hammer every night for eight hours
@Zwt256
@Zwt256 3 жыл бұрын
That’s a great memory
@DocFeelGood4
@DocFeelGood4 3 жыл бұрын
Cool. Good for you.
@truthalonetriumphs6572
@truthalonetriumphs6572 2 жыл бұрын
You mean "Recharged hammerer for 8 hours"
@DrMentalChaos
@DrMentalChaos 2 жыл бұрын
Had the 22oz volt rechargeable hammer lol
@curtisyastic4130
@curtisyastic4130 Жыл бұрын
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@annettesurfer
@annettesurfer 4 жыл бұрын
I tried the online design @ Menards for a loafing shed and the diagram showed treated 2x4's on all four surfaces of the embedded posts. I've read long ago that concrete shouldn't even be used for posts since it develops gaps at the top and doesn't allow water to drain away from the wood. Also I understand it's the microbes in soil that eats away at the wood so I just use gravel at the bottom for drainage and fill around the post with a combination of stone screenings with something called a county mix packed tightly...which resembles concrete. Of course that was for my privacy fence (400' sunk to the 42" frost line but I went down 48" for the gravel base) so I'm not sure about doing that with a structure, which in that case I'd prefer anchoring a treated post to a concrete filled Sonotube, but that's just my opinion.
@housemachine509
@housemachine509 4 жыл бұрын
Is it still sturdy ? By chance are you in Mn with those requirements ?
@waveranger4974
@waveranger4974 3 жыл бұрын
You are great. Thanks for all do
@leelunk8235
@leelunk8235 Жыл бұрын
I MUST SAY, I USE A BAG OF LIQUID FOAM 1ST IN A 3 FOOT HOLE, I MAKE SURE IT'S BALANCED, I COVER ABOUT 2 FEET WITH THE FOAM, THE REST I USE QUICK CEMENT TO THE TOP. POST IS ALWAYS ROCK HARD, NO NEED FOR SCREWS, BUT I'LL TRY IT NEXT TIME WITH SOME SCREWS
@mseifried5
@mseifried5 4 жыл бұрын
Great tips. I always mix concrete thoroughly before pouring in the hole. That way it can start curing immediately. I don't understand why you would want to wait for rain to set your post. Did you all know; concrete is in the plastics family?
@lorihannah5499
@lorihannah5499 4 жыл бұрын
I suggest sealing the post before burying into mixed concrete...the "Post" level is only plumbing 6 " of the post where it is attached. I put mixed concrete at bottom of hole, wrap in water proof tape or seal 2" above where concrete is going, then put ceramic coated or PT grade small lags in the post in several areas...post will not rot. Mix concrete properly, brace post properly plumb, then pour in concrete. Let set for 36 hrs or if using fast setting, 2hrs, and post can't be loosened or knocked over. Post will not rot either. Pt is for above ground contact only
@jjackson4829
@jjackson4829 4 жыл бұрын
Great idea, thanks! Would work even better using some stainless steel lag screws. The extra thickness of those would be all that much stronger, and they wouldn't rust out over time.
@aaronmackay6123
@aaronmackay6123 4 жыл бұрын
2 bucks a lag screw.
@nigelclark7360
@nigelclark7360 3 жыл бұрын
Yes of course
@peterholmes2089
@peterholmes2089 3 жыл бұрын
Great idea, but perhaps angle the screws downwards to help prevent directing water into the wood?
@pipi7731
@pipi7731 Жыл бұрын
Now that is a good idea.
@TheJiminiflix
@TheJiminiflix 4 жыл бұрын
What about an application of tar sealer on the timber before you concrete it?
@Jsuarez6
@Jsuarez6 3 жыл бұрын
This is a good post.
@vinylsoup
@vinylsoup 4 жыл бұрын
good video, I used to drive gal. 16's commons in side leave maybe inch or so hanging out, no real need to angle , concrete will grab and not let go, this I did before there were deck screws
@jonmatthews4254
@jonmatthews4254 3 жыл бұрын
I would add paint some bitumen based product around the wood 4 inches above ground level and below and make sure there is concrete underneath it. You don't want to go to all that trouble and have the post rot through. I use waterproof PVA in the concrete ti help prevent rot further.
@wmbrice
@wmbrice 3 жыл бұрын
Great tip, thank you!
@bmfitzgerald3
@bmfitzgerald3 4 жыл бұрын
Do you guys use "post sleeves" to prevent rot before setting in concrete?
@frankdavidson9675
@frankdavidson9675 3 жыл бұрын
i tryed a diff. method about 30 yrs ago i poured concrete in the hole several inches stood a 24in rebar in the concrete center let it dry now bore a hole about 12- 14 inches into bottom of post stand post on rebar fill hole with concrete to gd level plumb let dry i moved about 25 yrs later had no problems with it this was tall post for deck --------- i did my vinyard 4x4 posts just left off rebar works graet.
@edwardanthony7283
@edwardanthony7283 4 жыл бұрын
Clever idea
@chachab9239
@chachab9239 4 жыл бұрын
Magnificent! Hadn’t thought of that one. Thanks for your advice and tutorial. I’m liking this.👌🏽❣️
@TheHonestCarpenter
@TheHonestCarpenter 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching, Chacha!
@afniemann
@afniemann 4 жыл бұрын
Great idea!! Similar to a Nelson stud on embed plates. Could use HD galvanized lag screws w a fender washer to increase pull out resistance.
@rxlo1062
@rxlo1062 3 жыл бұрын
Great idea 👍
@g.e.boroush5176
@g.e.boroush5176 3 жыл бұрын
I built a fence years ago and used cedar posts which is what I was told to use. Over time, they all rotted at the ground level. For a temporary fix I pounded metal fence post supports that wrap around the post to hold them and the fence up. So I am now wondering what to do when putting in new posts . . . what if they rot again? How do you get the post out?
@joycegiasson5219
@joycegiasson5219 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing 🌿🍂🍃
@Ainsleet
@Ainsleet 2 жыл бұрын
This will be my first time. I will be placing 10 footers. I am wondering how I keep the post straight while waiting for the concrete to set?
@Xelbiuj
@Xelbiuj 3 жыл бұрын
Dope tips. Thanks.
@camerakid76
@camerakid76 4 жыл бұрын
Food for thought; The trick is certainly better than nothing but the shear strength with screws is much less than with nails. Also you create a bowl for water for your post to rot in with the concrete. Gravel below the post will help water seep down and out. Bring the concrete above grade and slope it away from the post when finishing it off. Your concept is proven though, just some things to think about if you really want it to last.
@Buzz_Kill71
@Buzz_Kill71 4 жыл бұрын
Just found your channel and mid-binge....I like it, a lot.👍
@AlipashaSadri
@AlipashaSadri 3 жыл бұрын
Nice trick!! Thanks a lot!
@blackhouse7646
@blackhouse7646 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry for the off the wall question. I am putting some shade sail with some 4x4. How can i put them down with a 10degree angle?
@Jupistar1
@Jupistar1 Жыл бұрын
Thank you!! Good video
@carollshelby500
@carollshelby500 4 жыл бұрын
For railings. What is the 4x4 cut at? 45 degrees?
@almccallie4314
@almccallie4314 3 жыл бұрын
Nice tool belt setup. Looks like Occidental.
@johnbaumgartner
@johnbaumgartner 2 жыл бұрын
Great tip, thanks. I loved you in Karate Kid!;)
@TheHonestCarpenter
@TheHonestCarpenter 2 жыл бұрын
🥋
@gordonwaldner9792
@gordonwaldner9792 3 жыл бұрын
Putting a couple inches of crushed rock in the hole will keep the post dry and rot free. Check your building code for what is allowed for a hand rail. Many will not allow a 2x4 because it is to wide for many people grasp. I do like the screw tip. I acts like rebar.
@OK-pi6fq
@OK-pi6fq Жыл бұрын
Wish I did this to my fence
@EraOneSamael
@EraOneSamael 3 жыл бұрын
Great idea!
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