HOW TO: SOLO ANGERFORGE as a MAGE 95g gold per hour service guide

[@Muffintoppinlolz]

Happy friday everyone! Thank all of you for the love and support, yall have no idé how much it means to me!

[@whaecK]

some ppl just deserve it, subbed- im totally new to a game like World of Warcraft (first time played wow at the start of classic and still learning daily :F..) after 18years of counterstrike, i appreciate the help very much mate

[@nocturis1987]

has this been patched i cannot get up on that ledge on my gnome mage

[@michaeloleary1565]

If you use lesser invisibility potions and invisibility potions, they have separate cool downs, so only locked by instance counter. good to use if you cook an instance

[@hop5656]

This is pure motivation to keep leveling my mage

[@kristijanvidmar1305]

@Blackout It doesnt matter what u farm, there bilion things mages can farm. I need to level 1 as well ^

[@kristijanvidmar1305]

@Blackout tell me what warrs can farm? Mages can farm literally anything

[@adryansashidharan1624]

Been watching a lot of mage farming techniques in classic, and this is by far one of the coolest secrets I did not know about. Thanks for the video and keep it up!

[@jr-6025]

wtf was this recommended to me. Watched it, really enjoy it.

[@lockalhost]

Bro, this was amazing!! Love your style and all the nerdy minutiae -- keep up the GOOD work!

[@hepkus]

In Vanilla WoW (14-15 years ago) prior to patch 1.10, Angerforge and Emperor dropped Hand of Justice. At patch 1.10 only Emporer dropped it. It was removed from Angerforge's loot table. In Classic, Hand of Justice drops from both Angerforge and Emperor. The loot tables of classic currently are 1.12 itemization with pre-1.10 patch loot tables.

[@sk8notacrime]

Ur explaining and vibe were awesome, never doing this and still loved it

[@whaecK]

sympathetic guy who takes his time to explain, i like it very much, gj dude nice video

[@ngonge7102]

Really amazing! I tried it out and it works absolutely fine Keep it up!

[@beebefitness3410]

So beautiful so simple so easy to follow and you seem like a cool guy. You got my sub :)

[@Adam-zb5kk]

Great guide. Your buttery Swedish voice is music enough for me

[@TehPoke1337]

Nice video man, really enjoy your guides now gonna start using this strat to get HoJ for my Rogue :)

[@jomiles3605]

Bro. This is the best angerforge solo I've seen. You make it look so effortless! Also, nice delivery/format with your video.

[@andreascosta4251]

I thought it was obvious it could be done by a mage if a rogue can solo it with just a bow

[@mistfitsable]

i was gonna say if a rogue can do it with a bow any mage spec can probably also do it, hell a hunter can prob do it easily too

[@midge753]

@AcadianTV yea it's a pain in the ass as a gnome, takes at least 2 jumps to get up there, really reduces the efficiency at which it can be done

[@bojnebojnebojne]

I can confirm as of Phase 2 in Classic, that it still drops from Angerforge, I got it on my warrior just the other day.

[@hayhay9120]

Simply cant get that jump done. any known problems with gnomes being unable to do so? Also tried with Noggenfogger, but not sure it could make a difference. Does someone have a better or more detailed explaination?!

[@ryanodonnel6072]

@@ximbor1866 Fairly certain it is impossible as a gnome. Using savory deviate + firewater and still can not do it, while I can do the jump every time on my human rogue.

[@mouse6697]

The first tricky jump up the dark rock area (using his flashlight) can be avoided, just blink when u are trying to make the jump, youll blink to the top.

[@SipiN90]

The jump cannot be done by Gnomes. Orb of Deception (turns you into Tauren) AND Noggenfogger (skeleten, slow fall, and small, tried all combinations) Will not work either.

[@Grindley08]

Legend, trying this for a solid 30 minutes before giving up xD

[@nikoaz]

Great job explaining everything! Thumbs up! I have the same gear as you except for the bindings. I have been trying to figure out a way to solo Drakestone, but it was patched, so it needs to be duo'd with a lock. You are a lot easier to understand than myself, so if you want to make that content I am sure there are a million mages/locks that would benefit from it.

[@Muffintoppinlolz]

That's a great idé Nikoaz! I'll acually have a look at that I think even though the farm for that few SP seems suicidal!

[@nikoaz]

@@Muffintoppinlolz Thanks man, that would be really appreciated.

[@steffennilsen2132]

HoJ shows as dropping from Emperor because it did drop from him in vanilla, im not sure exactly when the change was, but in a relatively late patch they moved it from Angerforge to Emperor

[@bankaleksa]

true

[@Panzer-Geomancer]

"Yump down".

[@auburnt1663]

Please bring out MORE of these videos, I really enjoyed watching them!!!

[@royalt9863]

Nice build and good video. I always like to see effective builds that are outside the meta.

[@tduck8867]

Thank you so much for this guide. 43 runs later my war finally has HoJ

[@cvanamburg7234]

Lucky you over 100 runs in no HOJ. Useing 2 rogue farm tech

[@tduck8867]

@@cvanamburg7234 That is crazy. Although if you include the runs I did on my war, it took me 68 runs to see 1. But since then Ive been selling these runs and I usually see 1 in 10-15 tries. Ive seen 7 HoJ now in 141 runs on my mage

[@trevorbraswell5764]

Great Video, solid Narration.

[@DaZFPS]

IF you're selling it for 400g and the item drops how can you get back to the customer to receive the 400g before the person either leaves the party once they get the item or give it to them via master loot?

[@autdelux]

make u lootmaster give them a invis pot if it dropps they can come to u pay and get the loot

[@dustbustus27]

@Zqi Hi I have tried multiple times on my own to nail this jump and I have never been able to get it. Has it been patched out of the game? Could it be that I am a gnome and that is why I can't reach it. I tried using a Savory Delight to change my character model. Can anyone point me in the right direction with this?

[@Muffintoppinlolz]

I did it yesterday so its totally working. People being gnome is struggling if you cant land it use winterfall firewater and or elixir of giant growth and you should be able to land it consistently

[@lamborghinimercy6873]

as a Gnome the jump is impossible to make. Using Deviate Costume didnt work. Orb of deception didnt work. Firewater didnt work. im wondering if its possible with a speed pot or nifty stopwatch maybe. Either way its so inconvenient and probably kills the farm for me

[@arthuredwards8022]

!! omg know the feels managed to with skull on impending doom/swiftness pot and nifty stop watch but ;/ bad placement for gnome mages jump and legs ;( and cheers for info that orb/firewater did'nt work bl being gnome and being spaced capp

[@whisk8700]

Love this kind of content, looking forward to more guides!

[@zacharybeacham2446]

i'm deeparcane/frost (raid) spec and it's looking like i need to put an extra point into arctic reach. the extra 2-3yd seems needed when bursting angerforge down from 40%. let me know if i'm missing something.

[@zacharybeacham2446]

also, i find that every 1/30 jumps that ledge will disconnect me... anyone else experiencing this?

[@Jozen321]

Turn on vertical sync for the jump!

[@SparTadepT]

3:50 A fleshlight? D: Real talk, solid vid.

[@WhoFlungDung]

Haha i laught at that too. Love my flashlight/wand

[@Bryan-hv8td]

You can turn up gamma if you can't see outside the window till you get the hang of it aswell.

[@codymaverick9267]

Perhaps there was a patch. how ever Savory deviate delights did not help me jump to that spot in ninja raider black suit form.

[@Nebelelb]

Wow. Chill Video Strait Top the Point. Blows Sky mind.

[@Worstshaman]

This was recommended to me, so you are doing something right! Impressive discovery to be honest - credit where credit is due, I watched it all and I'll never play mage:) See you on the field my friend.

[@nklx_moto]

One Word: great Will follow you on twitch

[@maplic]

A quick tip John. Lesser Invisi and regular Invisi are not on the same cooldown. If you pop a lesser invisi, there is only a 2 minute cooldown before being able to pop a regular Invisi, and vice versa.

[@ryangoodwin9115]

havin a hard time with the jump as a gnome, cant get it atm

[@vgk12345]

if you belive its because your a gnome, eat delight and be a human :p

[@darkmasterchriss]

can confirm this it was not possible as gnome in 100+ tries. With human female I could do it easily

[@darkmasterchriss]

delight did NOT fix it

[@BeansBuilds64]

any luck so far?

[@darkmasterchriss]

@@BeansBuilds64 Hi, nope also tested orb of deception and noggenfogger with no success. Since the skeleton from noggenfogger has the undead model, this is very surprising. At the moment im doing the pulling with my warrior who can do the jump and killing stuff with my mage while alt-tabbing, that is the best work around I could find. If anyone is able to resolve this issue please let me know.

[@Mazxlol]

very cool tricks on those jumps, this whole time i had no idea it was possible.... damn!

[@Ashuowl]

The ledge jump in anger room must be restricted for some races as it seems gnomes can't and probably not dwarves but got some mixed info on those. Me and a few others have also tried with saviory deviate delight for the human form and haven't been able to get that to work either way. Yet to try with noggenfogger for undead form though. Seen orcs and undeads able to do this jump at least.

[@bouncebounce6147]

having the same problem. i just cant make the jump. i had noggen on me and couldnt do it no matter what ...have you been able to mmake it yet?

[@Ashuowl]

@@bouncebounce6147 nope, tried probs over 100 jumps in each form so far that I've had avaible. Will try in the future with a normal human, incase the shapeshifting form just doesn't work (but that'll be quite a bit later as my human alt is just lvl 20)

[@bouncebounce6147]

@@Ashuowl im going to try to do it as furblog but itd be tricky since taking any dmg removes the transformation and it has a 1 minute cd...but its my only hope...lmao

[@Ashuowl]

@@bouncebounce6147 gl

[@bouncebounce6147]

@@Ashuowl well...i cant make it. i went in on my druid to find out if im just a trashcan betty but i made it first try on my nightelf female. feels bad. no hoj selling for gnome

[@Stlucifertv]

Amaaaazing, I have a 100g a hour farm on my frost mage doing the exp boost part of brd and then the arena. I charge people 2g a run and I auction off the pre bis that drops. Love to see mages doing mage things !

[@Muffintoppinlolz]

The goblinism is strong brother

[@ryanodonnel6072]

Fairly certain it is impossible as a gnome. Using savory deviate + firewater and still can not do it, while I can do the jump every time on my human rogue.

[@leehenderson6338]

Sweet guide, I'm going to try this out as elemental shaman

[@Muffintoppinlolz]

Lemme know how it goes that sounds awesome!

[@Gogglesqt]

@@Muffintoppinlolz im actually currently able to solo as an ele sham. have goten 2 hoj for guild so far :D im the hero of the guild because of your guide tyvm.

[@Muffintoppinlolz]

@@Gogglesqt Insane man I love it

[@ohnoesgoes]

Good video John, learned something new. Thanks!

[@nolifedotcom]

Great video bud, subbed!

[@rsaman3639]

not working for gnomes

[@Muffintoppinlolz]

Yikes unlucky, reroll! (Or just use a savory deviate delight might work)

[@Skadaha87]

@@Muffintoppinlolz Savory Deviate Delight doesnt work.. at Hydrospawn where normal chars can walk in the water, we gnomes swim.. but if i use a Deviate delight.. my human form still swims.. xD looks stupid AF :P

[@TechnoBacon55]

Skadaha87 that’s the price to pay for bis mage race in the game:(

[@TraderMate]

Really???

[@yoooyoyooo]

What exactly doesen't work? I was thinking doing this on a hunter

[@drftkng.]

Great video.. brilliant execution, got a sub, looking forward to more

[@thomasfrhlich8847]

Great video John! Do you know if the jump you do 7:34 is possible as a gnome? I can easily land it as human, but unable to do so as gnome... Does anyone have a video with a gnome making the jump?

[@miklosszabo4551]

Great video mate, I love theorycrafting with firemage aswell, love to see you can do angerforge alone. Subbed!

[@josephdickson8176]

keep it up dude, great vid!

[@miothan]

This looks nice, awesome strat, had no idea the mobs would run on those upper ledges like that :D

[@mistfitsable]

did this as raid spec arcane power frost was actually easier i think, able to burn angerforge really quickly from 40% to 0% with cds and plenty of time to loot before adds show up. took 50 runs or so for hoj drop tho

[@khmarabroona]

how do you avoid getting scammed? For example if it drops and goes to him and he just leaves party and hearths?

[@Paladinpwa]

Master loot :P

[@khmarabroona]

@@Paladinpwa yes but how do you get him to trade you the gold before you loot the trinket to him? he will be waiting by the door so there is no way for him to get to you

[@viikmaqic]

@@khmarabroona it needs to be need roll for him. but yes he can scam you.

[@vn-il9kq]

Very good guide, easy to listen to you and follow

[@Muffintoppinlolz]

Happy you liked it!

[@bendiksoggertnes8095]

How do you sell it for 400? can you do like masterloot and give the item to someone who wasnt in party when it dropped or?

[@bendiksoggertnes8095]

Anyone?

[@crazyRyoga]

No, you can't assign loot to someone who wasn't in the group when the item dropped.

[@bendiksoggertnes8095]

@@crazyRyoga Ah . Well then u cant do it like dire-maul then

[@crazyRyoga]

@@bendiksoggertnes8095 Nope. One player or the other will have to rely on trust I guess.

[@Alexandros-Gr]

@@crazyRyoga but he says at the beginning that you gotta tell the guy to stay at some specific spot and for example tell him to get some tea.. So this implies he is in a group with him. I suppose he either masterloots it or would have to bring the guy to loot it but that would imply having to clear everything so I think we can eliminate that one. Guess it's masterloot then or I don't see how.

[@dwimmerlike]

HOJ was on Emperors loottable on private servers, thats probably what is getting people confused :)

[@CogniVision]

Yeah they even had it there on AtlasLoot for Classic until it was finally fixed once people realized all the loot tables pservers got wrong.

[@autdelux]

@@CogniVision well they where not wrong, more like to far advanced they where just the latest loottables back from the day in 1.12.1 build. they will be the same when we at that point again ;) ppl just assumed they would keep that 1.12.1 loottables

[@1337CaptainHadock]

Great video mate, i subscribed ;) On a side note: I love when swedes have to pronounce 'J' og 'G' in a word! My raid leader calls the giants in molten core for jiants xD (For those that are left out of the loop; swedes pronounce both letters the same as a heavily accented 'J')

[@Muffintoppinlolz]

Yeah you hit it right on the nail there... Too real

[@Exbozz]

Can confirm, HoJ dropped for me 2 days ago, altough it probably took 50 kills leveling 2 toons.

[@Zorni1990]

great video man,really like it but how do i Exit the instance after the kill? Since we do not open the bridge

[@mistfitsable]

reset it it with an alt, you get a guildy to join your group then have him invite a lvl 1 alt, then reset instance with the alt then switch to main

[@bernardoleitao9508]

when is the HoJ loot going to change from anger to emperor?

[@itssobetv]

Just want to let everyone know HoJ, does drop from Anger, the loot table for atlas is wrong. Also, you can use the Engineer trinket to get an extra invis in. The CD for the invis trinket for engie i think is 1hr.

[@nicoc.5474]

Great guide. Thank you

[@ant135]

is their an easy way out of the dungeon with out dieing from this point?

[@alfredandersson6799]

Very well done guide

[@schmeegs8062]

Hey John, from one small creator to another ur a beast mate. Keep it up love ur 1 take style. Would love to see that 2 mage DME jump. Subbed

[@Muffintoppinlolz]

Thanks for the kind words brother, DME is a bit delayed since im full neckbeard mode pvp ranking but its coming!

[@warbreakr]

you say if you want to farm HoJ for your alt.. but how does that work? say it drops after u've killed it with ur mage.. then what?

[@STIroids]

lesser invis pots and normal invis pots dont share cooldown, i have been doing this with my friend 6mins per run including the reset, you can cut your 10min time almost in half

[@Seumiki]

What addon do you use to see the mobs health?

[@jeremyrivers6194]

Awesome video! You are cool, calm, and have an awesome accent! Expertly done. Any way a priest could do it? Holy, disc, shadow? :p

[@jeremyrivers6194]

Not to mention you don’t cus! Much...

[@trickpa80]

Hey john, great job man, cheers from brazil

[@TheDeadking05]

how can u get out of here easly? after u kill the boss

[@yanni6969]

log out. get the person you're selling the service to run out reset the instance. When you log back in you'll be at the start.

[@gansta432]

Im confused how this generates gold. Hand of Justice trinket is BOP. So when it finally drops.. now what?

[@Spenr1337]

People will pay for the boost. The person you are boosting can AFK in the area shown at the begining of the video. Put master looter on and master loot to the person paying. Make them pay before you head to angerforge

[@darthbane2300]

Do you put on master loot so the client doesnt roll on things he/she shouldn't and you make sure they dont just need and bounce? How does that work?

[@h0b0b0z0]

I think in Phase 5 Hand of Justice stops dropping from Angerforge and only drops from Emp.

[@VRGamercz]

Thanks mate, helped a ton

[@RideNaked]

I'm having trouble with the jump to the ledge as a gnome. Been trying and havn't made it once. Can anyone confirm its even possible as a gnome?

[@Pepzz-z8s]

same xD

[@bxyoung]

same

[@brodor2588]

Nice work John!! Pls more Mage Guids.... Pls post your stats Spellpower, hitrating, crit etc. Thx you.

[@libemf3878]

do you need minor speed for the jump ? Im a gnome mage and cant get up there.

[@thechaneyunit]

did you figure it out?

[@markosusa5823]

the addon you use to show spell hit/cirt power etc what is it ?

[@Misslyckad]

is this possible to do as frost / arcane specc

[@Muffintoppinlolz]

yes

[@yanhaoli5705]

Sorry, how did u make 95g per hour by only killing this one boss?

[@djambox1439]

Because he sells this Service to people who needs that trinket drop, such as rogues and warriors.

[@dubstepforever99]

@@djambox1439 how though?? dont the body dissapear after a while and they would aggro the mobs standing on boss

[@djambox1439]

@@dubstepforever99 they would, but i think they do it in group and just spectate the mage doing the job and when /if the trinket drops they would just need on it.

[@algrin9090]

Hi Zqi, i tried your vital jump so many times and i never even get close to do this jump @7:34 is it because im a gnome or am i just to dumb? Normaly i dont have problems with thinks like that. greetings Algrin!

[@Muffintoppinlolz]

Gnomes appearantly have it alot harder to do the jump, people in stream has said use elixir of giant growth / Winterfall Firewater and u can land it every time. Hope that helps!

[@benjaminlordo1043]

But how can u sell the HOJ drop? I mean in Mara it's bvious master looter and the safe spot but here ?

[@PavloLysiuk]

The same tactic. Check vid again.

[@shonuff9181]

Damn you are a genius sir lol good shit

[@mariusklenner2485]

What’s the point of doing this runs ? Since Hoj is bop and I can’t sell it in ah? How to make 95 g / h

[@Azamous]

really nice video

[@27Zangle]

Can this be done as frost?

[@murgor4]

Nice video, I did solo runs as rogue, but for Melle is way harder, anyway how do you sell it to someone else that isn't in group? I mean when HoJ drops, you masterloot it to someone that entered instance after u kill boss.? Bit confused, would like you to explain that part. Selling it for 400g migth worth farming it even for me with the rigth build is kinda ez. It just take more time. Thanks

[@MayxHD]

Doesnt work as gnome, no way to get it consitant enough

[@derekdanger5584]

Great stuff I’m going to do this!! Thanks

[@n4ppn4pp]

really enjoyed the video, thx for the guide :

[@sergiocoelho1231]

I am a gnome, and I can't seem to pull the jump, do you think the 2 are related?

[@Matt-fw3ws]

When it drops how do you get the gold and masterloot it to the recipient? Do you just give it to them and hope they pay?

[@killerbean1337]

Matt O'Callaghan he takes 75g/hour so i guess he takes the payment then start the runs if it drops first run then he got 75g for like 10min of work. But If it dont drop first hour he ask if they wanna go again takes money and repeat. Not sure if he does it like that but i would do it like that. :)

[@Matt-fw3ws]

@@killerbean1337 he also said he sometimes does it like the princess farm where he only takes 400g if the trinket drops. Am curious about how that works specifically

[@talymenombrenuit3659]

@@Matt-fw3ws I'd guess masterloot, I'd it drops tell the guy guy pays you and give him the item

[@Matt-fw3ws]

@@talymenombrenuit3659 But you have to leave the boss to get the trade? The boss would despawn by the time you run back

[@Bluesachwill]

@@Matt-fw3ws master loot it to yourself in a raid grp

[@Krando_]

Can you show off arcane frost for this pls?

[@guitarjaymz]

Damn the way these skills are placed making me anxious

[@abele2828]

good video man

[@TheMikkelOLaursen]

3:45 You don't need to jump. You can just keep running against the "wall" and you'll get there

[@TraderMate]

Has anyone found a workaround as gnome mage? Please help!

[@Steven-cn8dr]

great video bro, how about an Ulda farm video!? havent seen any for classic yet. still trying to get my POD lol