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@HelAom4 жыл бұрын
Good video and advice, here's my experience using this guide and some additional suggestions: -Troll mage, started at 44 as the guide suggested -Definitely need Savory Deviate Delights if you are a troll -Spec, I went 32 points into Frost, ignore: imp frostbolt, frostbite, shatter, winter's chill. max everything else (kept blizzard because I sometimes aoe other areas) rest of points into arcane, just make sure you get arcane subtlety, arcane concentration -Took the guide's advice and started a couple graves at a time before I learned the proper kiting distance -At lvl 47, I prefer to open up to 8 graves at a time. I find that going more, I lose my small buffer to make mistakes. -Recommend everyone bring healing potions with them in case you take damage. I have a constant stack of superior healing potions with me. -Also recommend everyone create both Mana Jade and Mana Agate. I use my Jade right away so that Agate is off cooldown once my mana is almost out. -Doing this I currently get about 10k exp every 5 mins, but realistically not 120k an hour because of resetting the instance and prep/loot/killing patrols time -If you have a healer patrol, you can easily dispose of them. Spam frostbolt until close, then fireblast and CoC. Either run/blink away or frost nova and rinse repeat. Counterspell the flash heal and wand the healing totem. Don't worry about the lava totem.
@Azamous4 жыл бұрын
I just made a mage and I'm learning all about this. Thanks for the video!
@osmanrumeli4 жыл бұрын
ohh my rogue master is here
@sirriffsalot41584 жыл бұрын
How'd it go? lol :D
@manopeace91753 жыл бұрын
hey thanks for the specific scenario addition. thats the thing i was missing to figure this out. thanks again. appreciate you.
@Bmage283 жыл бұрын
Nice vid, helped a lot with those safe spots. The 2nd one is always the most challenging for me. Usually takes the longest to reset and often results in me still getting hit by casters.
@justanobody2474 жыл бұрын
Great video ! Thank you for helping out new players / new mages !
@arcanine_0594 жыл бұрын
Super detailed and informative for a noob like me. Thanks a ton!
@LeftToWrite0064 жыл бұрын
This was pretty goddamned helpful (especially learning about mob resets)!
@cephoenix3 жыл бұрын
The detail u posted make all the difference. Thx man!
@jollyscarecrow4 жыл бұрын
perfect timing. I was just about to continue levelling my lvl 30 mage :D
@phlitza4 жыл бұрын
nice guide, one thing tho: you can kill the voodoo healer patrol simply by kiting and running him out of mana
@untelevized4 жыл бұрын
this is the best zf guide, so simple n easy and explains why my troll mage cant do resets properly
@Jbayz4 жыл бұрын
I spent an hour as a troll trying this and having my guild think I was just an idiot. Then I watched this video.
@LupusUmbra9954 жыл бұрын
Shoulda mentioned to get Minor speed enchant on boots, it helps :D
@90az114 жыл бұрын
thank you about letting me know to aggro the boss, was wondering why they were't going up to him and just started hitting me
@ZereTheTank4 жыл бұрын
I knew the trolls were hating on me because I'm a troll. Thank you for the delight tip!
@1un4cy4 жыл бұрын
Could see a minor speed increase enchant being super useful.
@gagothesour4 жыл бұрын
plot twist: he was just flexing that he has gf playing wow
@27Zangle4 жыл бұрын
@@klusell7014 - Exactly, I know so many married couples who play and many single girls as well.
@pattech39604 жыл бұрын
Both my parents play wow, but mostly my dad atm.
@LeftToWrite0064 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I'm a tad envious of that.
@albertscardina7113 жыл бұрын
@@klusell7014 LOL christ dude it's a joke, learn to laugh a little bit huh?
@joshuaroe14023 жыл бұрын
@@klusell7014 I am married and I thought it was pretty funny.
@ston42554 жыл бұрын
Tip: don't bother with the first rest point when running to the gy, before you get to the first set of blocks run left up the wall then go right past the basalisk, then head to the second rest point saves a bit of time I've managed to get it so I dont even stop at the second set if blocks just run like a madman n blink n shield till you get to the fountain, that's also another thing there's about 4 different reset points in the gy so you dont have to jump up to the top everytime, there's KZbin videos out there showing all of this but dont want to put links into someone else's video
@AtomFA3 жыл бұрын
i rolled troll and struggled with this so much lol ty
@bigmojotv84594 жыл бұрын
finally a decent vid with explanation.
@Welchy884 жыл бұрын
Nice guide would have loved to have seen the talent choices tho
@Acolis3 жыл бұрын
pertty much got this figured out now. the problem i have this with this is that if you dont already knowhow to do this then you arent going to be leveling any faster. maybe not any slower if youre a decent mage and can manage to pull it off here and there. aside from that the main issue i have is that i sometimes miss the jump. sounds stupid but it happens. and its instant death if the group isnt in a specific location. it took me about 25 wipes total to get this kinda down with intermittent success in between. im not a great mage imo but probably average so if i can do this then the average mage with knowledge of the class can do this too. bring mana pots and also time your evocate just after you recast your mana gem so you gain a mana gem and also majority of your mana pool back. you can do it. its certainly not impossible. this has been a great challenge that i enjoyed.
@BloodyNippleZ4 жыл бұрын
How do you exit the dungeon once you are finished with the pull?
@valentin53674 жыл бұрын
were you fishing for clearcasting procs with rank 1 cone of cold or were you spamming max rank?
@malachiashley5284 жыл бұрын
best video so far
@Stabier2 жыл бұрын
Just ran this twice today on my 42 human mage on TBCC. The first safe spot is perfect, though the second safe spot can be a bit tricky to use and not get killed/stop aggro (due to the spell casters).
@jarofpickles40574 жыл бұрын
What was your spec in this? Didn't see you mention it in the video.
@shermanmerman49444 жыл бұрын
does gear really matter? or can u do with sm+sfk blues
@malosky80874 жыл бұрын
any special spec or just the norm aoe farm spec?
@Scav19883 жыл бұрын
Hi, great Video. I'm playing undead male, and sit down behind the safespots blocks. But I still get shot from shadowbolts behind it, will try again with 44...
@dice5682 жыл бұрын
Also a male undead, same thing is happening to me at 45 no matter how I position myself.
@Velyren4 жыл бұрын
Extra tips: 1) You don't have to kill pats if you don't want to/ can't. Simply mark them, and depending on your kill speed, you can kill 1-2 groups before they reappear. 2) If you find yourself going OoM often, use Mage armor instead. Save nova for any resists. When that does happen, be sure to align yourself on the side (left or right) of the group. If everything goes wrong, use ice block and cold snap if necessary. 3) If mobs scatter too wide somehow, blink away and use rank 1 blizzard to corral them back together.
@proxsea74964 жыл бұрын
Blink n r1 blizz seems big brain time but tbh not worth the mana
@Velyren4 жыл бұрын
@@proxsea7496 Seeing your response was a pleasant surprise! Honestly didn't think you would see this. I usually leave tips in the comments for viewers as I like to do when I come across a new topic. Your video has been most helpful, cheers
@proxsea74964 жыл бұрын
@@Velyren Sorry sir I'm not the video creator just someone who left a comment lol.
@skrinkleje4 жыл бұрын
Whats the talent build?
@FogesTV4 жыл бұрын
Its very important to make sure you cancel melee attack, sometimes you start attack while clicking graves. If you have it on you can be hit from further away. CANCEL ATTACK during your opening ice block.
@TheCipher20124 жыл бұрын
You can just use the x button to sit down when in the safe spots to de aggro the mobs
@swmpwlkr4 жыл бұрын
Can you include the spec you use for this in the description? :)
@Lukengoodz3 жыл бұрын
i was doing this since lvl 40. its a bit harder as you get resisted alot. but its 100% able to be done at 40 - 52
@H3DG14 жыл бұрын
finaly troll guide , do it with troll a lil more difficult
@bjrnchrstn4 жыл бұрын
Ill try with smaller pulls... After 6-1 for the zombies I had enough...
@camelpoops4 жыл бұрын
The witch doc is easy from lvl 44+ Just use counterspell and kill the healing totem fast. I had few problems with it
@chrisroach56663 жыл бұрын
Y’all have a and d key bound to turn or strafe ?
@primochispi4 жыл бұрын
what rank spells are you using on this guide mate? I seem to have a problem with mana running out.
@GravityDAD3 жыл бұрын
also wondering
@Magerquark3 жыл бұрын
Just tried this at 42 and yes its a nightmare even getting to the safespots
@ekrajb1234 жыл бұрын
FYI you can deal with the witchdoctors, just remember to counterspell their Flash heal, and optionally kill Totems
@Twitch_Fox3 жыл бұрын
Also Dampen Magic reduces their spell damage.
@fuGisAddi4 жыл бұрын
You can easily kill the witch doctor if you can CS him fast, then maybe mana pot/Mana jade if you dont have the manapool for him
@Augury134 жыл бұрын
This^^ Idk if the yt'er never tried to kill him or maybe tried once at 42. but it's really easy.. Just counterspell 1 cast and keep frostbolting him... not challenging. Actually less challenging than the melee ones, because those you need to kite.
@choctravels38644 жыл бұрын
Do I need minor speed to boots enchant for this to work man?
@Ebbnflow4 жыл бұрын
It helps, but I never did
@FogesTV4 жыл бұрын
Also jump when you cone of cold for more range
@proxsea74964 жыл бұрын
Somebody said to not jump as it makes you easier to be hit but idk
@FogesTV4 жыл бұрын
@@proxsea7496 jumping increases range of come of cold
@goodtogrow77744 жыл бұрын
I'm 49 still trying to do this once. I stuck at this so bad! Nothing ever works like it should.
@dice5682 жыл бұрын
I am currently trying this at 45 and am experiencing the same. The first safe spot has failed 6/6 tries so far. I'm undead and I've sat every time just to make sure I should be LoS and it doesn't work.
@Spruehschiss56 Жыл бұрын
@@dice568 I dont even get to the safe spot lol. playing on turtle wow. There are so many melee mobs and they kill me once I try to enter the first hallway after entrance
@brandihuguet69254 жыл бұрын
/sit if you are a tall troll works too and you can /sit in combat... save on deviate delight
@maddavescientist4 жыл бұрын
Are you using low rank cone of cold?
@grtxuploads2363 жыл бұрын
I'm level 47 and could not deal with 3 even though i have a fully done aoe build i don't know if my movement speed is too low
@tigerturok78242 жыл бұрын
wich talents you had sir¿? if i can know it ;) thanks
@BlazeYX4 жыл бұрын
Couldn't you simply sit down rather than use Savory Deviate Delight?
@crackershoes1444 жыл бұрын
No, unfortunately the model still has the full hit box of a standing character even if you're sitting.
@plasticbudgie Жыл бұрын
2:34 appologising for clicking.... what a great community wow has.
@alittlebitm0xi3 жыл бұрын
the second spot doesnt work when i'm trying.. any tips ? :/
@antonnahm76454 жыл бұрын
I also did this method with my mage and have a few things that i noticed/struggled: 1) I started with lvl42 to avoid P2.. as Ebbn mentioned, lvl42 is really really hard. first i thought iam not mastered enough, but as i dinged lvl44 it was much much easier 2) before setting the boss to red you might kill a random elite near him first. no big deal 3) as you kiting the mobs with CoC, try after CoC them to go 1-2 steps back and then moving left/right, as i get some hits not doing that because of the leeway mechanic. 4) Scott said it already in the comments: the witch doctors are killable 5) ThatGuyInACU asked it already: Ebbn how do you reset? Not mentioned in this video (i know you have another one)
@flipnshifty4 жыл бұрын
he meant u cant kill witch doctor while also aoeing the other mobs. You can ofcourse kill them 1 v 1. I got a question tho, Which rank Cone of Cold is most mana efficient?
@grixis54 жыл бұрын
Something I've been struggling with on the second reset spot, I keep getting in situations where it seems like there's shadowcasters positioned in such a way that it's impossible to get out of LoS of one without drawing LoS to the other (or going into a spot where you can be melee'd). Am undead. Suggestions?
@X3ntel4 жыл бұрын
same here, just can't do it
@ab-ue9yx4 жыл бұрын
roll gnome. jokes aside, other videos mention that the getting there part does involve a bit of RNG and sometimes you will just die.
@samoleary27924 жыл бұрын
/sit might help that's what I do
@greatestever7024 жыл бұрын
Same
@phadedlife3 жыл бұрын
At the second spot you should position yourself more on the side of the right block and not directly in the middle. When you're running, stick tight to walls.
@repetitivemusicenthusiast4 жыл бұрын
This isn't really related to this video but it reminded me, I've been wondering if a 60 Druid can solo this farm with bark skin hurricane?
@Ebbnflow4 жыл бұрын
nah the mobs have too much hp :(
@repetitivemusicenthusiast4 жыл бұрын
Ebbnflow ahhh okay thanks for the reply! Appreciate your work:)
@larsschumacher93794 жыл бұрын
I did it in bear as a 60 Druid Sith Tank spec and Gear. But Takes a Lot longer
@1un4cy4 жыл бұрын
I would try as a 60 paladin but I could barely do stockades lol, consecrate just doesnt do enough damage and eats too much mana. (lv40 cone of cold nearly has more dps than lv60 consecrate)
@X3ntel4 жыл бұрын
Idk if they changed how LoS works or what since this video, but after three tries i could not get them to break line of sight at the second set of blocks and died everytime.
@X3ntel4 жыл бұрын
finally got that down but then after all that effort of getting there, i just died so quickly. Very good guide, but it just doesnt seem worth all the trouble and practice you have to do.
@GravityDAD3 жыл бұрын
should be labelled the most frustrating method of levelling a mage, my god - i need new keyboard and mouse lolol, i cant be the only one failing repeatedly at this - ive made it to the gy once in ~10 tries
@Acolis3 жыл бұрын
it took me 4-5 wipes to get to the gy, another 2-3 wipes to figure out pulling- and many wipes, 10 or so figuring out the aoe tek. ive completed it twice out of 10 tries maybe. its really not that hard but you cant go wrong anywhere or youll die.
@markmccaleb1114 жыл бұрын
On the second thought you aren't doing the dance lol should kite all of them on the wall way better xp
@nikolajelaca82074 жыл бұрын
can you solo Zum Rah WD boss there??
@gaavv4 жыл бұрын
The leeway just kills me every time. I can do 3-4 at a time but any more is a nightmare, Also you can hide behind the large pot at the end of the room. I might just be all over the room. Is it best just get the range and just do a circle at the range?
@gilfreitas97794 жыл бұрын
I think the little backpeddle he does before CoC is to avoid the leeway. I don't personally play a mage but a guildie of mine mentioned something like that, you should try it out.
@danborg12284 жыл бұрын
ty for vid but wher is the info on build so people dont get om, and for all reading this get good gear before this and right build enchant Minor speed enchant on boots and dont try this at lvl 42 wuld say 45+ now saves u alot of time pirate cove if not crowded is faster but ofc it depends on time and skill lvl
@ab-ue9yx4 жыл бұрын
My question is: if you play on a low pop server, is this grind better xp/hour compared to just AOE griding huige pulls of mobs in the open world?
@nighthawk824 жыл бұрын
tanaris pirates are better xp/hr if uncontested.
@aidynoshea70023 жыл бұрын
Is first aid something you absolutley need ?
@logbro70574 жыл бұрын
minor boot speed enchant?
@Sanoskesagara4 жыл бұрын
how do you get to level 42/44 as a mage? Are there other cheeky tricks like this, or do you just have to play the game and quest/aoe grind in the open world?
@PsyfadZ104 жыл бұрын
I played Fire until around level 22 standard questing/killing, 22-42/44 as aoe frost grinding open world and 42/44-60 inside of ZF or DM.
@skrinkleje4 жыл бұрын
Sm runs are the best
@greasus24743 жыл бұрын
You can pull it off at 40 and if you are a troll you can just do /lay in the reset points.
@LauberJan4 жыл бұрын
if you kite the witchdoctors, the totems won't heal them! use your cs to interrupt the flash heal and those mobs shouldn't be a problem.
@brendanwebster51382 жыл бұрын
I’ve tried this in classic as a 44 mage. I’ve tried aggroing the boss first the popping graves but the zombies don’t run to the boss, the attack me right away. Did the fix this? Any suggestions?
@mexabro12 жыл бұрын
it doesn't work any more in SOM since it was fixed there and the zombies don't run to the witch doctor anymore. But there are other ways to do it.
@MrRokaroo3 жыл бұрын
how do you get out of the dungeon without dying/hearthing/porting/camping after you clear the graveyard so you can reset it?
@iankelly78643 жыл бұрын
Log out for 5 minutes, or have a friend invite you and an alt to one group. They leave. When you log off log onto your alt, reset the instance, when you log back in youre at the beginning of the reset instance.
@vyndetta85524 жыл бұрын
what was your spec?
@Crowing28284 жыл бұрын
Just curious but why not spec into improved blizzard? Mana issues that way?
@dylanalpers4 жыл бұрын
I was wondering the same- its a bigger slow and has a better mana/dmg ratio
@asmod95374 жыл бұрын
I'm currentlt lvl 53 and did this farm. Although it has a better mana/damage ratio, the time between your CoC is enough for the 4 sec mana regen timer, so you'll regen mana between your CoC. I tried with blizzard but i always ran out of mana, so i just use blizzard when i have evocation.
@dylanalpers4 жыл бұрын
@Long Schnozzed Tribesman blizz is still better than CoC, isn't it?
@Ozolz4 жыл бұрын
Why amplify magic buff?
@mathers903 жыл бұрын
what talents ae being used here?
@thaddeus21733 жыл бұрын
I get to the second reset spot (the boxes) but theres always one or two casters that dont lose agro and I end up getting killed. What am I doing wrong.
@Acolis3 жыл бұрын
try adjusting your position to keep los. also /sit
@mmcg30533 жыл бұрын
why dont you nova them and then shatter them with coc?
@Generalclown4 жыл бұрын
I did this method till 54
@calbreezy474 жыл бұрын
You dont really need a deviate delight for first spot, trolls can just /sit and LOS
@alexframed52324 жыл бұрын
How much mana and hp do you have?
@Ebbnflow4 жыл бұрын
1.3k hp 4k mana
@sykobiatt1234 жыл бұрын
How do you run out of the instance again? drop all your gear, die and corpserun?
@SECY_Gensler_420694 жыл бұрын
Get a guildy to help you make a group with your alt. Once you and your alt are in a group, then this is the process. Finish what you need in ZF, log out and log onto your alt. After a minute or 2, party lead will switch from your main to your alt. Reset the instance. Log back onto your main and your main will be at the front of the instance.
@Munkruskel2 жыл бұрын
What about talents?
@TheDFitzChannel4 жыл бұрын
I always get to the first reset point, start running for the zombie and i get killed every goddamn time. i cant do it. :(
@phadedlife3 жыл бұрын
I know this reply is suuuuper late but persistence is key here. Keep trying and you will figure it out!
@MrSam18044 жыл бұрын
whats the gear?
@Ally.Cat.2524 жыл бұрын
Lvling a lvl40 warrior alt and now a lvl10 mage alt. Damn mages
@onedazinn9984 жыл бұрын
interesting use of cone of cold instead of blizzard. Love your tricks of deviate delight and path hiding.
@flipnshifty4 жыл бұрын
He didnt come up with this though.
@onedazinn9984 жыл бұрын
I did try the cone of cold talent respec from blizzard....at 42 there's no way I can do this. >.< but you obviously practiced alot. I ran out of manna way too much.
@TheRyanNutt3 жыл бұрын
Is this worth it as a duo? levelling a mage with my brother
@Ebbnflow3 жыл бұрын
Yeah you can do it faster with 2 so xp would still be nice
@TrevorATX3 жыл бұрын
died 3 times trying to get the mobs to reset at the 2nd evade spot in, leaving and never coming back. lol
@Classic_Travels3 жыл бұрын
try the different farm in zf its way easier
@GravityDAD3 жыл бұрын
@@Classic_Travels which different farm? dont they all use the 2nd evade spot?
@Classic_Travels3 жыл бұрын
@@GravityDAD there is a separate farm where it’s not kiting mobs on the ground it’s jumping on top of the wall and blizzarding them down 10 times easier then kiting
@GravityDAD3 жыл бұрын
Classic Travels thanks, that’s the one I’m working on - just rank one blizzard on repeat eh - trick is getting to the Gy but I guess that just takes more practice - thanks
@ThatGuyInACU4 жыл бұрын
How do you go about resetting? Do you die or try and make the run back?
@flipnshifty4 жыл бұрын
You use the same reset spots as going in?
@Antwok4 жыл бұрын
Ask some friend or guildie to group you and reset instance while you disconnect
@chambodubstep99654 жыл бұрын
after like 6 deaths i finally managed to kill one group ...then died from a pat....
@olegdlekhov89604 жыл бұрын
Did you continue to try? Did you become better?
@Gufolicious4 жыл бұрын
Deviate delight doesnt change the height of your char. Trolls dont get smaller and gnomes dont get taller.
@mclintock13194 жыл бұрын
I play a male human mage and I find just sitting down behind the rock is enough to LOS mobs if youre in the right position
@mclintock13194 жыл бұрын
Another thing, in the last corner near the boss, you can jump up to the top of the troll statue and jump over on top of the wall which will reset mobs easily
@Wilksbooth4 жыл бұрын
All these safe areas though
@txkyle20134 жыл бұрын
How does the gold per hour break down? Is it mostly from pure silver drops or from vendoring the drops?
@henrikh30894 жыл бұрын
Vendor trash
@migueljavier58094 жыл бұрын
This guy
@ston42554 жыл бұрын
Always make sure to loot the graves before mobs as the pulls take a while to kill and graves despawn after 5 mins
@Milocinia4 жыл бұрын
Did you not have the blizzard slow?
@Wablestomp24 жыл бұрын
blizz costs too much mana if you are solo and not high lvl
@mortenj86024 жыл бұрын
@@Wablestomp2 Nope, blizzard way better if you know how to do it. Milocinia check my vod if you wanna speed up the process
@richardm77134 жыл бұрын
i start at 43, how many should i sta1rt with > just 4?
@Ebbnflow4 жыл бұрын
4-6 is a good starting area. kzbin.info/www/bejne/ipjaeaptprlnrdU is a new alternative method which works really well also!
@luisaraujo19243 жыл бұрын
el propio chavo eres
@EligMC4 жыл бұрын
There are one, maybe two more ways for troll mages to oos the mobs at the first two safespots. Nogenfogger and sitting down
@PukkaEditz3 жыл бұрын
@@zeonos I thort this also... is he using an old method with cone
@mattd62444 жыл бұрын
applogizing for clicking lol
@Demiurge134 жыл бұрын
if you do the coc method, then i suggest aside from the obvious improved coc talents, and improved nova, get shatter. when you nova and coc it'll do some high crits