How To: Spool Down 400' Roll of 16mm Film to 100' Reels Without a Split Reel | Filmboy24

This is my simple solution to spooling down 400' of 16mm film, onto 100' daylight spools.
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[@knoptop]

Wow! You're on the next level with the amount of film you have stocked up!

[@andrewlaker]

Thanks Mike! This is EXACTLY the tutorial I needed. I have the exact same rewinds and a 400' can of expired film on the way. I wish I'd known about the core adapter before I ponied up for a split reel. Dang. Oh well, I'll try downspooling with the split reel and see if I like it, but your method looks much easier to do in the dark.

[@Filmboy24]

Thanks, Andrew!!

[@Malik_Maliki]

Love your videos, and this video is exactly what I need right now!!. My question is why does a single perf need to be oriented the same way when I spool it down? can I spool it directly to a 100 ft? instead of doing it twice? Thank you!

[@Filmboy24]

Thank you!! Most cameras that accept 100’ spools, require that the film is oriented with the emulsion facing in, coming off the reel in the “9” position, with the perfs down. The 400’ loads are already oriented this way, but when you unspool, it’s backwards.

[@Malik_Maliki]

@@Filmboy24 thank you!

[@kd1841]

Thanks for the great demonstration. My dad filmed many a Super 8 movie of the fam in the 70's and early 80's. He did a lot of cool stuff but no respooling cause it was just so easy to get film stock back then. I have been shooting 35mm since 88 and might get out his old Super 8 camera and do some filmmaking when the budget allows. I have too many hobbies, lol! 😀

[@Filmboy24]

Thank you, KD!! These hobbies certainly can leave us eating Ramen noodles 3 times a day, that's for sure 🤣

[@madskdz]

YESSS!!! 🙌🙌🙌🙌 what an great video Mike. I knew this was coming and was waiting to do my own 400ft roll

[@Filmboy24]

Thank you, Lyle!!

[@madskdz]

@@Filmboy24 already watching it again! lol

[@oniriscope]

I’m shooting a short for a French film contest with my Beaulieu R16 with its 200ft mag this summer, I’m not a believer but sir you’re « godsend » today! Keep those useful film content coming. Have a nice one!

[@Filmboy24]

Thank you so much!! All the best with your project!

[@lloydleblanc8170]

Hi Mike, just a bit of information on the bigger black reel that you showed. When I started to shoot 16mm film for a tv station I had a Trenka camera which used the black daylight reel of film that you displayed. These reels came from Kodak as 360 ft of film. The film stock was usually Ektachrome 7240 or 7242. All the best. I enjoyed your presentation.

[@Filmboy24]

Oh wow, thank you for that information, Lloyd!! I had no idea these were 360' but it definitely makes sense, since they're quite a bit smaller. Wonder if you could squeeze 400' onto one. Damn, now I have to try it 😂

[@michaelb.5345]

Late I am but interesting anywho .Good job Miguel.....about your mug. 🤔

[@Filmboy24]

Thanks, Pop!!

[@lorieorebaugh2598]

Great video Mike!!

[@Filmboy24]

Thank you, Lorie!!!

[@MrForiun]

Very useful video! I got an Aaton minima, and it's been hard to shot, just because of the Aaton KODAK spools.

[@Filmboy24]

Thank you, Miquel!!

[@bobsbits5357]

hi the first time i ever seen 16mm film i was at school as video deck cost alot of money back in the days now the only time i have seen is the mag film for audio a man i know used to work for the bbc he got me some new zonel reel wow the gain on it is very good i have mag film 35mm new heads i used with zonal 1 INCH tapes the 8 channel heads were bad hi wear on them very happy with new and old tec

[@kippercat123]

Fast and easy question... Which side of the film ( emulsion or base ) is closet to the lamp when running through the projector ? Thank you !

[@Filmboy24]

Hey Kipper, the base side of the film is always closest to the projector bulb.

[@kippercat123]

@@Filmboy24 thank you that's a great help

[@judethaddeusschork2855]

Great video. Totally new to this. I have two Beaulieu r16s, both with a 200’ magazine. My question is, how do you do this in complete darkness? It seems simple, but I’m afraid I wouldn’t be doing it correctly, not being able to see it.

[@Filmboy24]

Thank you, Jude!! Honestly, I just practiced a bit in the daylight with old film until I was comfortable enough to do it in the dark. P.S. I'd love to pick up a nice R16 again one of these days. I had one years ago and I got rid of it. I really regret it now.

[@judethaddeusschork2855]

Pardon my ignorance. I want to spool down some 400’ reels to 200’ reels so it will 200’ magazines. Couldn’t I just spoil it down to a daylight 200’ reel and not spoil it back. I have double perf film. Thanks.

[@Filmboy24]

@@judethaddeusschork2855 Yes, absolutely. As long as your film is double perf, the orientation of the sprocket holes doesn't matter and you can shoot from either end. Spool away!!

[@judethaddeusschork2855]

Thanks. I appreciate your help.

[@STGFilmmakers]

Nice Mike Thanks!

[@kikelozanotriana7763]

Great video thanks mike!!

[@Filmboy24]

Thank you, Kike!!

[@saidanehabib]

Nice video, can you order Vision3 straight from Kodak? Thank you.

[@Filmboy24]

Thanks, Habib! Yes, you can order movie film direct from Kodak via phone. They used to have a web store but that was taken down quite a while ago, no idea why.

[@cecildeville6950]

Excellent demonstration. You are much more organized than I am, although I am only spooling 100' reg. 8 rolls down to 25' unsplit rolls. I don't have a dedicated darkroom so it is usually changing bags and flat turning on a table. I like how you figured the gear ratio on the rewinds, much simpler than my method of using a 12" school ruler and measuring a foot at a time in bag. I plan to adopt your method soon, seems easier and more efficient. BTW - Have you received your moviestuff package yet ?

[@Filmboy24]

Thank you, Cecil! I used to gauge 100' simply by feel on the daylight spool but soon figured out that I was usually over too much. Since I process it myself, I need to be pretty tight with 100 ' 105'. I have not yet received my Mark II scanner. I love MovieStuff but they do take quite a while to get stuff to you. Took about 3 months each for my Mark I 2K upgrade kit and my RetroSynch unit. We're now in the 3rd month since I ordered the Mark II, so hopefully it won't be too much longer. Definitely worth the wait though.

[@cecildeville6950]

For sure worth the wait. I am trying to convince myself to buy a scanner and await your review on the new MS unit. I think that may be the direction to go in.

[@alexinnewwest1860]

Great video Mike! Have you had any experience using infrared goggles for loading film?

[@Filmboy24]

Thanks, Alex!! No, I haven't ever used infrared goggles in the film world but now you have me curious. Have you used them?

[@alexinnewwest1860]

Well I haven’t yet. I been doing some reading and it seems like a good to go. I found some night vision goggles kids toy at the local goodwill for 12$ and it seems to work. It’s very primitive as in it’s just a basic IR camera with some IR LEDs and I can’t see any light coming from it. But it has a small BW screen with crude resolution but its better then seeing absolutely nothing. I was thinking to use for loading 16mm magazines

[@Filmboy24]

@@alexinnewwest1860 Sounds like a very cool idea! I'd love to hear how it works out if you do some 16mm mags.

[@alexinnewwest1860]

Absolutely, I hope to get to it this summer, been kinda busy and film stuff has been pushed to the back burner. I’ll definitely let you know. Ha I wish I watched your video a couple weeks ago. Had I learned that double perf film can just be flipped over when Re-spooling (kinda obvious now lol) I wouldn’t of spent a bit of $ on a 400’ day light spool 🤣

[@alexinnewwest1860]

Oh and the goggles I found are Spy Net Ultra Vision Goggles

[@ANDROMEDANEBULAGROUP]

Thanks

[@MichaelCarter]

That's the same number I got. 44. Same rewinds, too.

[@Filmboy24]

Thanks, Michael! Not the greatest rewinds but as you know, they definitely do the trick!!

[@osseo19]

can you take a roll of 100ft 16mm that's on a daylight spool, and transfer it onto a 16mm film core to be used in a more professional camera (such as the arri SR2)?

[@Filmboy24]

Absolutely, it's basically just done the same way, only in reverse, from reel to reel (if single perf) to core.

[@osseo19]

awesome thank you! @@Filmboy24

[@jrm4408]

I have a pretty nice working Filmo 70D I was given, along with some old film stock that was kept in a freezer. I'd like to do what you demonstrated here to spool it onto the camera's 100's reel and try out the camera, but as a beginner having never used one of these cameras (have only used super 8) I can't imagine getting it right in total darkness. Can one of those red dark room lights be used with movie film like I've seen used with still photography? I do have a set of rewinds but no hub adapter which I'll need.

[@Filmboy24]

Hey JR, I would caution against a red safe light for any modern stock, however some of the older stuff might be ok. I would highly suggest looking at the original Kodak data sheet (most are online) for the film you have. The data sheets usually tell you if safe lights can be used with that particular stock or not.

[@jrm4408]

@@Filmboy24 Thanks for the info, I will check into it!

[@rpeters330]

I’d really like to do this now, I have some old Ektachrome in a 200ft spool I need to spoil down, I can’t find rewinds for less than $80s though :/

[@Filmboy24]

Hey Ryan, the cheap ones like I have pop up on Ebay from time to time. Have you seen these? www.ebay.com/itm/175310863529?hash=item28d1577ca9:g:EAgAAOSwI8xin6F5

[@rpeters330]

@@Filmboy24 on my watchlist!! Hopefully they don’t blow up with bidding!

[@spedslojp3353]

How would you spool down a few feet into a 35mm stills cartridge of film from a 400ft reel of 35mm stock ?

[@Filmboy24]

I've done that several times, actually talk about it a little in my series of videos I did regarding shooting old 35mm cine film in a still camera. In a dark room, I just pulled about 3-4' from the roll and hand wound it onto the 35mm canisters. A little barbaric but it worked fine.

[@panavision241]

Hey Mike, could I have you spool down a couple rolls for me? What would you charge? Maybe we can barter for some film?

[@Filmboy24]

Hey there, I've done it several times for people in the past. Can you email me at [e-mail] and let me know exactly what you have? Thanks.

[@andrewcollar4923]

Have you had any issue with static? I’m halfway through the video so I apologize if I’m asking something that’s already been addressed.

[@Filmboy24]

That's a great question, Andrew. No, I've never had any issues with static but it might not be a bad idea to wear some latex gloves to be sure.

[@zomalfa4363]

How would you work with a 15 inch reel?

[@Filmboy24]

I would probably make a taller mount for my rewinds and do everything the same way (using a 15" takeup reel as well).

[@zomalfa4363]

@@Filmboy24 The reason I ask is because I've got 2 15 inch reels full of film, I'm dying to know what's actually on them.

[@Filmboy24]

@@zomalfa4363 Oh, you mean actually viewing them, or digitizing them. I thought you had raw film that you were trying to spool down to smaller reels. Email me a photo of what you have and we can figure it out. My email is [e-mail]

[@Tecumsah]

@@Filmboy24 Alright, I sent the film in question maybe we'll get to see what's on it yet.

[@farhanmuhibahnaf165]

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