The direction of the saddle adjustment screws is not an indication of anything. Lots of people turn them around to suit their preference.
@tharsgaard6634 жыл бұрын
Plus on an abr 1 bridge, the adjustment screws are actualy that way around as standard
@MorleyRobertson19753 жыл бұрын
100%.
@snap-off53833 жыл бұрын
The screws for the tune bridge aren't an indicator either, they can be swapped out. The good indicators are to see the stamp on the headstock and pull a pickup and look inside for the gibson process stamps.
@Whodamanimal5 жыл бұрын
Although they are usually removed during the process of refretting a guitar, a new Gibson Les Paul (that has neck binding) will have fret nibs. The neck binding has a little bump on each end of the fret that blends into the fret ends. It's the first thing I look for when checking out used Gibsons.
@des5655 ай бұрын
I bought a Chinese Gibson Les Paul Replica 1960 RO Heritage Cherry Sunburst from a Seller on Ebay and it is AWESOME! All the details are very accurate from the binding, the headstock shape, the fret inlays, the real flame maple top is 2 piece and nicely matched, the neck shape is right 60's slim taper. All I changed was the Tuning keys to Grover Vintage Deluxe with Keystone aged keys, and I had a complete Epiphone wiring harness installed with Epiphone Alnico Pro Humbuckers and full size pots.( my little secret) and a bone nut. I I could'nt be happier with this guitar. All in at $575 ish dollars. It plays really nice and sounds sweet. I could'nt be happier with this guitar. Very well worth the money I have put into it.
@Bugster428 жыл бұрын
It probably stayed in tune - a dead giveaway
@fim13448 жыл бұрын
lol, Les Paul headstock rant :)
@mylastconfession17098 жыл бұрын
Bugster42 lol
@vicpnut17 жыл бұрын
Roflmao
@packingten6 жыл бұрын
Bugster42. I had an 82 LP deluxe BEAUTIFUL.....YOU could NOT keep it in tune period....last gibson I ever bought!!!....your comment...lol
@MattKittredge21126 жыл бұрын
I have an Epiphone Custom LP, and I barely ever have to tune it, lol. I've left it in it's case for about a month, and the next time I decided to play it, I think I only had to *slightly* tune the B string.
@kamba6667 жыл бұрын
It is very easy to know real from fake! What you do is pick it up and play it, if it stays in tune that means it is fake
@TheMoneyMakingMentor5 ай бұрын
LOL
@bryanstaddon59982 ай бұрын
It could also mean it’s set up properly. It’s total BS that Les Pauls don’t stay it tune. It’s easily proven by the millions of people playing them live all night, including me.
@americanjoe54862 ай бұрын
Not with those kluson deluxe tuners !!!
@SMart775119 күн бұрын
Mine is a real Gibson LP, it stays in tune beautifully.
@JokersWild708 жыл бұрын
That is one of the worst headstock jobs, especially the very top, that I have ever had the misfortune of seeing. The curves on the top arent even symmetrical! Best thing to do with that guitar is to throw it in a burn barrel.
@カスカディア国人8 жыл бұрын
Yeah the only thing this guitar will do is keep you warm in December
@JokersWild708 жыл бұрын
lmao
@megicappel8 жыл бұрын
resqfireman1 Not in a barrel! Throw it in the chimney so it can at least warm your flat...
@brucealcoriza16068 жыл бұрын
No, man ! you are wrong ! Most underwears now that can be found in Walmart and other major department stores like TJ Maxx, Ross, Target, Kohls, JC Penney, and countless others are mostly made in China, Mexico, Pakistan, India, or Haiti...Those are the 5 major countries that these American companies deal with. Shoes of all type like Nike, Adidas, Under Armor, Reebok, etc. are the ones that are made in Indonesia, and actually majority of them are still made in China...When it comes to guitars, ESP, Ephiphone, and Fender are the ones that are mostly made in Indonesia...my point here is, get your facts together !
@stevepratt96398 жыл бұрын
Bob Roberts
@beefsoda18 жыл бұрын
I bet the pawn shop is still asking for 1800
@CamRebires8 жыл бұрын
Holy shit 1800 to ~300... imagine the poor people, who fall for that stuff :O
@ayannaenglish73347 жыл бұрын
Good human be happy I'm buying a stratocaster at guitar center for like half of 300 (150) so they can do better smh
@trillrifaxegrindor44117 жыл бұрын
enjoy your squire bullet
@juanvaldez54226 жыл бұрын
Kennis Russell then they probably knew
@elitesmoke61956 жыл бұрын
Should hace dropped it and been like oops
@obiwanjacobi7 жыл бұрын
You can flip those bridges and saddles, so that is not a good indicator.
@Voxboy8768 жыл бұрын
That guitar is a chibson from quite a few years ago. The newer ones are made better but still shit.
@whatisthis__958 жыл бұрын
What is wrong with what he said?
@ayrtonoropeza15188 жыл бұрын
Hey, it isn't so fucking hard: newer "Chibsons" are better because they do a better job at copying the looks of an actual Gibson, but you can still tell the difference and they're shitty guitars. I don't know how you didn't get that, but anyway you can't go around calling people "fucking retards" so lightly, specially when everybody understood that pretty straight-forward comment.
@staceymcgrath69718 жыл бұрын
Ayrton Oropeza Never heard of a guitar brand called 'Chibson' you knob! You mean cheap Gibson? There's no such thing as a cheap Gibson but there are fakes! Is that what you mean? Another thing...there's no point wasting my time arguing with you guys as clearly you have a lack of knowledge of 'Real Gibson' guitars and it makes me wonder if any of you have ever owned one. To put this into more context I have 'Old' and 'New' and there are subtle differences and they are neither 'better' or 'as good as' each other. And Voxboy you haven't gotta clue what your rambling on about! Fact!
@jimiaxe8 жыл бұрын
Chibson means CHinese gIBSON . I just call all fakes Fibsons myself!
@Voxboy8768 жыл бұрын
Stacey McGrath LOL.
@leonbiner52908 жыл бұрын
man that's not cool for people who don't know that fake guitars exist
@linkuzumaki53758 жыл бұрын
yeah you're right I didn't see the price its the price of an epiphone, but still if a kid is a fan of Slash and he wants a les paul he can get fucked up by a fake guitar.
@JoeBaermann7 жыл бұрын
A kid that is a Slash Fan and lives the US should go for Epiphone's red Slash signature mode,l or if on a budget the cheap AFR which actually is pretty nice too. Even used Gibson LP's better than the red sig. costs more, and with newer models it should definitely be an HP version, but they will still lack the SD Zebra pickups.
@mitchmitchelson97677 жыл бұрын
I work at a pawnshop and I can say that for many high end guitars, we usually recommend them to a professional unless they have the original receipt, since we're not trained in authenticating a guitar most of the time. That being said whoever took in the one in the video is an idiot since something like the tuning pegs is a dead giveaway that it's a fake or had heavy mod work done on it.
@yaseen_elolemy7 жыл бұрын
Joerg Baermann well slash's first guitar was a fake les paul
@rhythmandmoose7 жыл бұрын
Where's the 400$ pricetag? All I see is 1799$.
@DavidRFIT8 жыл бұрын
In the last two years the Chibsons got WAY better. With some of them it's almost impossible to tell if they're fake or not.
Probably because of the proliferation of videos like these.
@greghilinski65718 жыл бұрын
Kennis, kick ass job. Here is my one comment on these types of videos. They are super helpful to the buyer and help them avoid being ripped off for serious coin. At the same time, we have pointed out the fakes and the fakers have improved the fakes! this is one where the fakers realized the logo problems, fixed one of them but introduced another. What is really stupid is why Gibson is fighting the fakes instead of just saying buy our guitars with a warranty. Gibson is creating their own problem here in a major way.
@dilellamike8 жыл бұрын
If I am not mistaken, a Les Paul "Custom" has block inlays (like the Epiphone in the video) and also the large decorative inlay (also like the Epiphone.) The fake Les Paul in the video was a copy of a Les Paul Standard with a truss rod cover that says custom.
@metalblues13708 жыл бұрын
Good advice EXCEPT for his comment about the bridge on a fake and a authentic Gibson. He failed to mention that the bridge on a authentic Gibson can be easily put on backwards. My friend Carl recently bought a Gibson LP (1980) from a music store, then came across this video and freaked out really bad because everything checked out except for the bridge. He called me because I own several Gibson and Gibson LP's, to check it out. The previous owner had turned the bridge around backwards on the Gibson guitar. Easily fixed but this video needs a little more info added.
@bazjones73498 жыл бұрын
Metal Blues the height adjustment screws are a dead giveaway
@tomswift2698 жыл бұрын
@Metal Blues - I've turned a couple of Tune-o-matics around for one of two reasons. One (at least found) was that I couldn't get the intonation right. I could've just turned the saddles I guess, but it's a lot easier to turn the bridge. The other reason was guitars that had their string size and action changed constantly to switch between tunings, slide, a bow, etc. By turning it around I had much easier access to the intonation screws.
@celticgibson8 жыл бұрын
Metal Blues exactly. I have a real ES 335 and the screws on the saddles are facing the pickups. unless that is supposed to be a les Paul only feature, it's not indicative of a fake.
@tinyb698 жыл бұрын
The biggest giveaway, is that there is no such thing as a Goldtop Les Paul Custom.
@MeuZbago8 жыл бұрын
ofc there is, many different ones actually, check their website
@tinyb698 жыл бұрын
Wrong. While their are many Custom Les Pauls, there is only one Les Paul Custom. www.gibson.com/Products/Electric-Guitars/Les-Paul/Gibson-Custom/Les-Paul-Custom.aspx
@MeuZbago8 жыл бұрын
well.. the more I know. tks
@clownpocket8 жыл бұрын
Les Paul customs don't have trapezoidal fret markers either, they're square. And unless it was refretted the plastic binding covers the fret ends. I never saw an LPC in gold top either.
@tinyb698 жыл бұрын
OneTrickNick scroll up to the name Gibson Les Paul "CLASSIC" Custom. Two totally different guitars. The "Classic" being just another money grabbing imitation of the original. You know, because Henry J need$ to make 200 different variation$ of the $ame fucking guitar that did fine with only 3 or 4 model$ for it$ 64 year$ in exi$tence.
@kmyers10177 жыл бұрын
You mentioned the binding where the neck joins the body. I have seen real Gibson's with very poor finishing around the neck joint. You should also have mentioned the fret binding, Gibson binding covers the end of the frets, but there was nothing to compare it with. Still a good video, and useful in spotting a fake. Thanks
@brian7704 жыл бұрын
while i would normally agree, in 2015 they started to make some without the binding covering the frets, its hit or miss on some models.
@Rich6Brew3 жыл бұрын
The neck binding doesn't cover the fret ends. It merely meets with them.
@SxSxG6662 жыл бұрын
I have seen horrible paint jobs and smeared bindings on real Gibsons. I even own one.
@oddjob19322 жыл бұрын
Cheers for this. I was brought here because of someone selling a Gibson Les Paul Classic 1960s re-issue. His very cheap asking price however, had me doubting whether it was a real gibson or not. Now after watching this, and flicking back and forth between this video and the sellers photos, I can say with some confidence that it is a real gibson that he is selling 👍
@stankfanger13668 жыл бұрын
That Epiphone Custom is a better guitar than that Gibson. Oh, and a little side note, the Chinese are notorious for stealing the serial numbers from real guitars in videos just like this to use on their Chibsons, so blurring out serial numbers, or at least a part of them, is a kindness to the manufacturers that they're ripping off. Good video, sir, subscribed.
@trillrifaxegrindor44117 жыл бұрын
it could be better,sometimes it is but occasionally it isn't,i own an epi custom and love it. ordering a Gibson however is not a good idea as they usually send the absolute shittiest guitars possible to purge crap inventory.it happened to me and others i know.
@murfdog196 жыл бұрын
Sounds like you've never played a true Gibson.
@funeralbillii91726 жыл бұрын
The hell with Gibson, they deserve to be ripped off after ripping off their customers for so many years. I'm glad to hear they are going bankrupt!!
@dopeburgermike6 жыл бұрын
fucking cheaters
@lingfengwei72906 жыл бұрын
circle of fat so true, the quality control of gibson is just, wrost than a 1 dollar toy
@Sharky290116 күн бұрын
Why do you move the camera so fast ?
@viddabroun86135 ай бұрын
Quickest way to tell is that the binding on the edges of the fretboard overlays the fret wire ends. This is on all Les Paul models except the cheaper models. The binding is put on over sized then filed down to the fret leaving a little nib on the end of the fret wire.
@peteharman50093 ай бұрын
He's totally wrong about the bridge. ABR and Nashville bridges differ with respect to the adjustment screws and intonation screws.
@CaptainHowdy14317 жыл бұрын
Also, if no one else mentioned or noticed, a Gibson Les Paul Custom has block neck inlays (see the Epiphone Custom for your example), NOT trapezoid!
@12breacher822 жыл бұрын
Inlays are also not traps for the Customs; they are supposed to be full rectangles. Good video.
@TheBlyzzrd8 жыл бұрын
i wonder if you called the people in the Pawn Shop out on it being fake
@ziggyfreecloud33468 жыл бұрын
Kennis Russell Was he pissed?
@Ticonderous17 жыл бұрын
Ziggy Freecloud Thing is they would just say ... well we thought it was a real one , "it looked alright to us" even if they knew it was fake they would just play dumb and act like they got took as well ..
@Dr2Rock27 жыл бұрын
Here is my ? ......Is the pawn shop selling it as a Gibson or a replica as it a fake? If they are still selling it as actual then they are breaking the law.
@brendaknowlton3966 жыл бұрын
Dr2Rock2 how do you report the pawn shop and to who. There are a couple of pawn shops near me that are selling fake fenders and one has a fake les Paul for sale. All are priced as if they are usa made. I have mentioned it to them and they were like... oh well.
@l.skynyrd28638 жыл бұрын
That headstock looks like Bart Simpson's hair on Easter Sunday. I hope to God you pointed this out to them, if they sold that to anyone gullible enough they could get in trouble for fraud at those prices. I wouldn't pay $ 200 for that thing.
@brian7704 жыл бұрын
i would probably give 200 for it, but not over that, the new "chibsons" are getting harder to tell from the real ones and i have played 2 that sounded and played as good or better than one of my real ones.
@OrvilleRickenbacker3 жыл бұрын
@@brian770 story lying to yourself
@Geetarman694203 жыл бұрын
@@OrvilleRickenbacker stop*
@michaelr.48782 жыл бұрын
Yeah..the headstock was the first thing I noticed when the camera first panned onto the guitar. I think a lot of the ppl faking these guitars (especially the bad fakes like this one) are making these guitars from pictures. They probably don't even have a real guitar with the to take measurements. That would explain things like misshapen headstocks and wrong cutaway/horn angles and sizes.
@gangina4k6678 жыл бұрын
I know a place that sells fake gibsons which is not the main problem. The main problem is that they claim that they are real gibsons. Where can I report that ?
@GearZenChannel8 жыл бұрын
Gangina 4K Call your state attorney general. That is a federal crime. Also, US customs might be interested. A company like Gibson, still producing items in the USA, needs to be protected from this abuse.
@gangina4k6678 жыл бұрын
reviewz it's not on my state I saw it while traveling
@justinuihlein76727 жыл бұрын
Informative and fun to watch. Great job, Ken. Thanks!
@VintageDefectors695 жыл бұрын
Most of these examples are obvious, but the neck binding not meeting the body binding I've seen on lots of Gibsons surprisingly. In the last few years every time I've checked, the Gibsons I've tried with binding have had some kind of weirdness whether it be not meeting at all or meeting at the very end. These were all from 2013-2016 models though (I only checked for a short while after I noticed my Epiphone did it perfectly) and I haven't had the luxury of trying a vintage Les Paul nor have I checked on the newest ones.
@greghilinski65718 жыл бұрын
I agree with all of your comments with the exception of the bridge. In some cases, people flip the bridge if the US made guitars have intonation problems and run out of screw travel. Also, take a look the fret ends. The binding should cover the fret ends. The biggest blunder on the one is the logo. It looks as if it was made on a copy machine.
@chucklee29954 жыл бұрын
Not all Gibson's have binding over fret ends, many different models don't have it, Google it,
@brian7704 жыл бұрын
i have bought several real les puals new, 2 had the screws on the bridge pointing towards the pickups, 1 was facing away, and all 3 were the real deal and fresh from gibson. that is 100% not a way to tell if it was a fake. also, most owners switch the bridge so the screws are facing away from the pickups when they change strings for the first time.....cause it makes sense to have it that way.
@jakefromstatefarm97213 жыл бұрын
What? It makes sense to adjust the bridge where it’s supposed to be and not care what direction the screws face.
@MCgamingDutch8 жыл бұрын
I lol'd when i saw the headstock
@DenMan24Fan8 жыл бұрын
The direction of the intonation screws on a Tune-o-matic bridge isn't necessarily a sign a guitar is fake. They come from the factory with the screws facing the neck and are sometimes flipped during a setup to give the saddles more travel space.
@zackcruise3567 жыл бұрын
My gibson has 3 screws on the top...... Wait a minute.... Aww crap!
@magnetacyan50326 жыл бұрын
zack cruise might be a custom.
@poseidonband78486 жыл бұрын
Cyan Magneta no real Gibson ever left the factory with 3 screws. All have 2
@VintageDefectors695 жыл бұрын
@@poseidonband7848 supposedly the Sonex had 3 for whatever reason (at least sometimes), but that was limited and only for a couple years
@notfirstyourlast4 жыл бұрын
Take it to a pawn shop..i hear they will give you good money for it
@sheltonwallace8 жыл бұрын
This is a pawn shop in Houston right?
@sheltonwallace8 жыл бұрын
Yup! Im from cypress! Not to far from that shop
@kirkbolas49854 жыл бұрын
I recall that a genuine Gibson Les Paul’s neck binding covers the fret ends. The exception to this would be the Studio model or the unusual models, e.g., the BFG Les Paul from about 10 years ago, with no binding on the guitar body or neck. Since Curle and company rescued Gibson from the Mad King Henry J., that binding over the fret ends may have changed. I mention this as I’ve been told that not all sub models of the Les Paul cover the fret ends with the neck binding, however I’ve not seen any where the fret end was on top of the neck binding.
@lj444saj36 жыл бұрын
Went to a pawn shop in my town this morning. Didn't know to look for the things that you listed here but what I was suspicious of was, though, the SG says made in USA, but it was VERY, VERY LIGHT in weight. I've never picked up an SG before. Are they supposed to be light?
@runlarryrun775 жыл бұрын
No they're not. That sounds like a cheapy with a Gibson logo.
@lj444saj35 жыл бұрын
@@runlarryrun77 Thanks for the info. I went back two days ago and it was gone. I guess someone fell for it.
@clydebigsby41177 жыл бұрын
I think the easiest way to tell is the pickup ring screws. Even Epiphone has regular pickguard screws that you would find on a fender on the pickup rigns. The gibson ones are most of the time black, and the head of the screw is flat. I think thats the fastest way to tell and it is often overlooked.
@johnnychingas10007 жыл бұрын
Forgot to point out that the tip of every fret is suppose to be bounded with the neck binding as well.
@chucklee29954 жыл бұрын
Not all Gibson's had binding on fret ends, there are several models that don't,
@battleofnerves Жыл бұрын
I have a 2009 Les Paul standard, the twin of No.2, proper factory fitted Grovers which were an option, no pick guard, I hate ‘em on LP’s. I spotted the fake straightaway. For me the binding was all wrong, I’ve never seen an LP like that. Don’t forget the binding colour as well. The original binding and pick-up surrounds of Gibsons were slightly pink in colour due to the fact that at the time that was the only colour plastic you could get as it was a new thing. Since then Gibson have faithfully recreated that colour, why I don’t know, other colours would look good too. The inlays were bad I dunno, it just didn’t look right to me. If I saw it in a shop I’d either walk right past it or ask why they stuck £1000 on the price of a £300 guitar.
@willg49448 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tutorial. It may help me from getting stung.
@philipconnor37497 жыл бұрын
Gibson 'Nashville' T-o-M bridges have the screws facing rearward but Gibson ABR-1 T-o-M bridges - which is the type copied for the counterfeits - have the saddle adjustment screws facing forward.
@tonyvargas11 Жыл бұрын
What if the "Standard" plate is blank? It's a 2020 Les Paul Standard with a plain black plate?
@corn1078 Жыл бұрын
Good stuff, it's fun being able to reference the fake one to a real one i bought new from guitar center
@bmwm3cs8 жыл бұрын
Great info, but the orientation of the bridge has nothing to do with if it's fake or not. Traditionally, ABR-1 Bridges point upward and the Nashville bridges point down.
@FretFriendGWaL7 жыл бұрын
First things you should look at are the bridge posts then the position of the control knobs then the truss rod cover...
@nickgardner150710 ай бұрын
Really enjoyable Kennis, is it too much to ask to cover a few Bass Guitars please?
@Jag932688 жыл бұрын
if someone was to buy a used Gibson what year should they be looking at ? I've heard some people say that the newer Gibson aren't made as well. I have been trying to decide between a high end epiphone LP or a bottom end Gibson. I don't have 2k to spend on a guitar.
@sito35398 жыл бұрын
Jeremiah G You'll be happier with a pretty Epiphone Les Paul for 600$+ They sound good. I have two and a Gibson LP, so I know what I'm saying. But if you want Gibson so bad, look at the 2016 stuff, Gibson got a lot better. Cheers!
@sito35398 жыл бұрын
Jeremiah G You'll be happier with a pretty Epiphone Les Paul for 600$+ They sound good. I have two and a Gibson LP, so I know what I'm saying. But if you want Gibson so bad, look at the 2016 stuff, Gibson got a lot better. Cheers!
@johnzenger78807 жыл бұрын
I liked the video! Thanks man. I noticed the inlays were off in terms of shape as well as the gaps between materials. Very helpful. Keep on rocking man -subscribed!
@mikeboyd65328 жыл бұрын
Also a LP Custom has a pearl inlay at the first fret!
@jcbak8 жыл бұрын
A lot of folks will flip the bridges so they can access the adjustment screws to their preference. Of course this requires that the intonation be re-calibrated. So, that may not be the sure sign of a fake in and of itself. Thanks for the video.
@Rumpl4skinn Жыл бұрын
Not only the end users do that, my custom had the bride the other way from the factory. Its that way from the sweetwater pics even.
@jdhed18 жыл бұрын
Couldn't the bridge be turned around and set up tho? because I have a Classic and everything checked out except for the bridge is on backwards.
@matheusmoreira99518 жыл бұрын
Yes, that point was not a valid one. Normally you will see the bridge backwards to compensate for intonation, so you can push the saddles a little more. It's only a giveway that someone didn't measure the scale as well as they should've, but not that it's a fake.
@itslikethesamebutdifferent80205 жыл бұрын
If the truss rod cover has only one screw, is it fake?
@Richaag6 жыл бұрын
Don’t all Les Paul Custom models have block inlays starting on the first fret as opposed to the trapezoid starting on the third? That caught my eye right away.
@CaratacusAD2 жыл бұрын
Why is the dot above the "i' on the red Gibson logo badly misaligned on the real one??? Is that normal???
@indieingenuity71608 жыл бұрын
All GIbson truss rods have a nut on them, not a allen key. That is the fastest way to tell. remove one truss rod cover screw and take a look swinging the cover to one side. If it has an allen key, it's a fake!
@SDsailor7 Жыл бұрын
Where do the Gibson Les Paul junior electric guitar have the serial number? does anyone know? Thank you
@metalblues13708 жыл бұрын
One additional note I need to mention, the bridge on a Gibson and Gibson LP can be used with the screws facing either direction. I have. '74 Gibson LP custom which has the correct bridge, with the bridge screws facing the pickups which Kennis says is a sign of a fake. NOT TRUE. I just recently bought a Gibson LP Standard directly from Gibson that has the bridge screws facing the pickups which Kennis says is a sign of a fake.
@philipottey77238 жыл бұрын
What really gets me is that was an obvious fake from the beginning with the notch being cut like shit. Try like a recently made and mid priced($450-$500) Chibson with someone who can make it real with
@thefuzzyjello8 жыл бұрын
oh man i really want that voodoo though!!!! is it still in the shop?
@thefuzzyjello8 жыл бұрын
Kennis Russell would you be able to put me in touch with the shop. Maybe an email address or something?! I want it!!!!
@gevansmd15 жыл бұрын
I just went to the Guitar Center website. Every Les Paul has trapezoids that look like this fake. The smaller ones near the body have perfect angles but the larger ones curve near the top of the trapezoid just like this one.
@LRS9058 жыл бұрын
Great information and interesting subject, would only ask for a less shaky camera movement so details can be more readily appreciated. Thank you Mr. Russell.
@LRS9058 жыл бұрын
***** Great! I wish you success on your business.
@BenAck9124 жыл бұрын
Would this also work for spotting a fake SG?
@slapnut8257 жыл бұрын
I have a 70$ knockoff Les Paul jr. and I have upgraded with a Seymour Duncan new tuners and strap locks it plays great and has been upgraded and is a different guitar in general
@fieryphoenix5863 жыл бұрын
As a proud owner of a Gibson Les Paul Classic, I could tell just by looking at the headstock logo.
@alexxc.16698 жыл бұрын
at 0:32 , that blonde looking les paul with black binding and inlays, what model is that?
@julosx8 жыл бұрын
Looks like a reissue of the 70s LP Custom. They had a maple fretboards like the Fenders. Very trendy at that time.
@dontransue98433 жыл бұрын
On the headstocks, the Gibson G should be parallel with the nut side imo. Also, the "o" in Gibson of the fakes have an open o that is almost a u sometimes. I noticed the "s" also is tilted on the fake. Another item is the Les Paul signature, on the fake those usually have a uniform thickness all the way around on all letters. Real Gibson Les Pauls don't have uniform font widths. There should be skinny and thicker lines.
@jackflash56594 жыл бұрын
The counterfeiters viewed this video and stepped up their game.
@NeverGoBack26 ай бұрын
Did you tell the owner that he is selling a fake Gibson or report it to the police?
@keokiheller43518 жыл бұрын
Don't forget the break angle of the headstock! Real Gibson's angle is pretty significant (I forget the actual degree value), but fakes have a very flat headstock to fretboard relation. It's cost more money to mechanically cut this greater angle in the wood and uses much more material which would equal less profit for our Chinese builder friends.
@j0hnbr0ck8 жыл бұрын
Keoki Heller 17°, Epiphone is like 14°
@buzzbomb677 жыл бұрын
That's the first thing I noticed lol Gibson is 17 degrees, for sure, which is quite a sharp angle and the source of most complaints about Gibsons, due to the strings binding in the nut because of the angle being too sharp. I read somewhere recently that Epi was13 and changed to 11 to help with the string binding problem. This fake is almost flat, Id say well under 10
@intrsoul7 жыл бұрын
Yep - even before he took it off the hanger, I could spot the fake by the headstock angle👎
@BrandonMartinMusic8 жыл бұрын
I go to that pawn shop all the time. Nice. Glad to come across some one that lives to close to me.
@BrandonMartinMusic8 жыл бұрын
+Kennis Russell No I just play at the house. My neighbor plays bass so we are thinking about starting to jam together. I have been going to that shop for at least 15yrs when it used to be done the road in the same strip center as Circle A. I recently bought a guitar from there that was called RAD but in small letters under that it says Custom Guitars from Sonnys Music in Austin Tx. But since it was a no name they sold it to me $125 and it has a Wilkinson bridge, big steel block, fender noiseless pickups and Kluson deluxe tuners. I haven't taken the pick guard off to check the pots but it plays nice and sounds great. I always stop in there to look for hidden gems.
@BrandonMartinMusic8 жыл бұрын
+Kennis Russell was is the sunburst Tele? If so I looked at that one and was going to get it but by the time I went back, it was gone.
@BrandonMartinMusic8 жыл бұрын
+Kennis Russell I saw that one and played on it. I almost picked up the white Squier Start but didn't feel the price was justified with the condition all the hardware was in.
@malcolmhardwick42587 жыл бұрын
The open book shape on the headstock looks like it was cut by a blind turkey !
@BENJIR2D24 жыл бұрын
What would you find out if you tried matching the serial number?
@JenesisGaming8 жыл бұрын
what pawn shops are you going to that have nice amps? the ones here in utah always have trash 10W solid state amps
@joshualoveless208 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tips! I own an older Epiphone SG and it seems to be of higher quality of the knock off and the Epiphone in your video.
@jesterd148 жыл бұрын
It's illegal to sell anything that is counterfeit, purses, guitars watches etc. BUT it is not illegal to own something that is, it's hard to charge someone who buys something that is counterfeit with committing a crime since all they have to do is say that they didn't know it was fake when they bought it. So, if you buy one of these, you are stuck with it forever, unless you can get the Gibson name off the headstock permanently.
@Keeping-It-Real-553 жыл бұрын
What did the pawn shop owner say when you were making the video. Did he take the fake off the shelf and cut his losses?
@henrygarrison16136 жыл бұрын
I bought a Gibson les paul in 1980! From a reputable shop? Said it was a 1969? Were copies made back then?
@3vann55677 жыл бұрын
Yes! This means that my dad's Explorer is indeed authentic! Original 1986 white Gibson Explorer, and it has not been refinished. Worth around $1700.
@PierreGarrabrant4 жыл бұрын
the binding Isn't crooked and the bridge doesn't cut the strings
@pointsbeingmade79964 жыл бұрын
My 89 Gibson custom cut the strings so not a tell.
@rickybattle62308 жыл бұрын
Thanks for informing everyone, I hate to see people get beat out of their money,if it's fake they should lower the price and sell it as fake,some people would be OK with the fact that it's not real.
@ledzeppelin59958 жыл бұрын
Thx Ken for the great info with the Gibson and Fender guitars, alot of things i did not know, and will help me in the future, great vid,
@itslikethesamebutdifferent80205 жыл бұрын
What if the Gibson guitar has a COA and a final inspection checklist, can they fake those as well?
@chucklee29954 жыл бұрын
Absolutely, chibsons now come with coa and Gibson owner manual and a quality control tag,
@itslikethesamebutdifferent80204 жыл бұрын
@@chucklee2995 - oh damn, I didn’t know that. Thanks for the info. Guess there’s no sure way to tell them apart anymore.
@Dav21128 жыл бұрын
Fret edge binding is another thing to look for as well, though Gibson are doing some models recently that haven't had the nibs on the fret ends. That headstock though, at least somebody didn't get stung by paying the price that was on it before you noticed this.
@thedeathreaperofficial80798 жыл бұрын
I play a PRS, so I didn't study a lot of other guitar types. I'm looking for a backup guitar just in case a string snaps on my SE 245 before a concert again.
@MichaelDHockenberry4 жыл бұрын
I would invest in String-joy strings...
@AirborneAnt5 жыл бұрын
So are these differences worth $1000+???
@mojorisen748 жыл бұрын
One thing that is the dead giveaway is the truss rod. The truss rod on the fakes are always the allen wrench type.
@pukejuicez8 жыл бұрын
Can you make a video on how to spot a real Dean Dime-bag ML from a fake one?
@mmg1986438 жыл бұрын
I'm curious if the pawnbroker knew he got got and was selling it for $1800 to try to make up for his mistake or if he knew it was counterfeit and took it anyway to try and rip some poor sap... either way it'd be illegal
@jeremymiller69338 жыл бұрын
When I lived in Houston, I used to have an Epiphone LP Custom that really, really looked like that one on the video. All the same scratches and oxidation on the gold pieces. It would be funny if it was the same one! Good video.
@jeremymiller69338 жыл бұрын
I got it on ebay back in early 2001 and sold it to a guitar shop at West Rd and Hwy 6 back in late 2006. I bought it as a project and never did anything with it.
@NB-ph6cv Жыл бұрын
God bless you! I was looking in the moment about buying one Gibson that by the stuff you told on video, it has almost everything on it.
@mukraker18 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I learned a lot. I'll keep an eye out for you.
@whitedo18 жыл бұрын
You missed one other obvious mistake. On the fake Gibson, look at 1:13 of your video, the ends of the frets overlap the binding and are beveled and finished in the traditional manner. On Gibsons, the binding has a little "bump" or "tab" that covers the end of the fret wire. As far as I know, Gibson is the only guitar company that does this. Also - the fret finishing doesn't look very good - even for the standard method. Some frets seem to extend a hair past the binding, the beveling of the ends is inconsistent and some look to be bent or smashed down.
@legentilmiguel30716 жыл бұрын
Can you make a video to show a real ibanez jem and a fake jem ?? Can you do it please
@Star_Sn1per7 жыл бұрын
It looks almost like a modern Gibson with these inconsistency's.. Damm it's really hard to tell nowadays because Gibson quality control is so bad.
@csb655368 жыл бұрын
Hell, anymore Gibson's are fake Gibson's. They no longer use Ebony for the fretboards, they haven't used real Mother of Pearl inlays for years, and mostly made on CNC machines. I even saw a 59 re-issue add from a dealer that had the inlays listed as "real celluloid", that's good to know that they use real plastic instead of that fake plastic.
@spydermunkie8 жыл бұрын
When did they quit using ebony fretboards? I have one from 2005 that is ebony.
@csb655368 жыл бұрын
spydermunkie I'm not sure just when they stopped using ebony. But the Les Paul Custom uses "Richlite" for their finger board. I don't know about you, but I have never seen a Richlite tree. I'm sure it is to wood what celluloid is to Mother of Pearl. My point for point this out is that they continue to cut costs (quality) while raising their prices. There are other choices out there, Heritage guitars comes to mind, and there are others too.
@l.skynyrd28638 жыл бұрын
spydermunkie I think it was around 2009 when they had that big have to do with the government confiscating their fret woods. I'm pretty sure that they just use the Richlite on their LP Custom but still use rosewood on their LP Standard and cheaper versions of the Les Paul. They were using baked maple for a short time when all that BS happened to them. Hey don't knock that Richlite until you try it. I've heard a lot of people think it feels nice and slippery like a good fretboard should and it's pretty strong stuff too. It's made from an epoxy and paper resin but it looks a lot like ebony.
@csb655368 жыл бұрын
Michael Shipman yes, they are. I only have one Gibson guitar left in my collection, it's a 1969 ES-335. I currently have three Heritage guitars, none of which use Richlite for their finger boards. It may feel smooth, but so does plastic, so where do you draw the line on making something that's cheap acceptable? Heritage are still made mostly by hand, with real wood, and real Mother of Pearl.
@GearZenChannel8 жыл бұрын
CS B 2017 guitars have real MOP inlays. Not a fan of richlute, but if you want a custom, jusg go vintage.
@mattiasjp8 жыл бұрын
The biggest screw up, if they were to claim it's a Les Paul Custom, is that nothing checks out for a custom. No multilayered binding on the body or fingerboard, no diamond-inlay on the headstock and no square fretmarkers. A lot of times you will find the Gibson logo being placed too far down on the headstock, an expensive-looking guitar with a offset-printed logo and the serial number stamped into the back of the head after it was clear coated. Gibsons never have sharp edges on their serial numbers.
@rhahshah8 жыл бұрын
Mattias Söderlund The custom shop does more than just the ornamental designs. When they do reissues of old LP standards, they look like standards. www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/LPR7TVAGNH?adpos=1o3&creative=55280457721&device=m&matchtype=&network=g&product_id=LPR7TVAGNH&gclid=CLKQ--28588CFQERaQodQo8H5g
@haydendraycott78976 жыл бұрын
I apologize if this is a dumb question but in all seriousness, if there are all these obvious flaws in fake models, why don't forgers make sure they're not present in whatever knock off they make? How would one still be able to differentiate a real from a fake if fakes were to get more adequate?
@DarrellYoung8 жыл бұрын
Did you inform the pawn shop owner?
@noonly34446 жыл бұрын
Sir iwant to buy telecaster plj suggest me and is it psoble to buy direct from america to india
@petedogg3692 жыл бұрын
The truss rod is a good indicator of real vs fake as well. The pots too.
@fahdchoudry77638 жыл бұрын
Epiphone Les Pauls are quite good. Obviously not as good as Gibson but I own one and looks gorgeous (Mahogany/AAA Flame Maple vaneer/Rosewood) and plays really well. If You can't afford a Gibson, take a look at an Epi Les Paul
@julosx8 жыл бұрын
Better : buy a used Les Paul. That's what I did (twice). Most of Epiphones have photo flame tops… (that is, except the vintage ones and Elitist series)
@stinkarely8 жыл бұрын
I have a Epiphone Les Paul. Its a really good guitar! (btw mine is black with a tint of yellow on the front) :3