How to Start Arm Aiming - BEST Hybrid Technique

[@StruthGaming]

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[@Kill3r55_]

Im confused, why a mousepad on top of a full desk mousepad?

[@lilGyros]

instead of a sportsleeve you can also use an old sock (i used an old one, which had a hole) and cut the part for your toes away, so you can stick your hand through

[@PRAISEGOD......]

Improvise

[@lilGyros]

@@PRAISEGOD...... adapt

[@coolman1293]

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[@scramblegaming4390]

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[@rice4everz]

@@scramblegaming4390 buss a nut

[@johnbrown-zr1zq]

Its really amazing how i naturally just did everything you said to do in your video before i even found this video. As soon as i lowered my sensitivity and got more mousepad it started becoming 2nd nature to me. My aim has also become more consistent over playing with a higher sens.

[@StruthGaming]

That's awesome, you skipped through all the pitfalls and got right to the juice.

[@cogarblue]

Great guide

[@princecuddle]

This is why I invested into a standing desk just to I can have those 0.1 inch adjustments so that I can comfortably position my chair height so I'm not restricting blood flow to my leg as happens when you are sitting too high and your feet are dangling and then have my desk adjusted to the perfect hand height. My position while gaming and so much more has massively helped my qol.

[@ShivamChhuneja]

really helpful mate! after a lot of forearm pain I noticed that my arm was being restricted because of the desk and adding a huge mousepad that starts from the edge of the table has really helped along with the reduction in the DPI

[@mycelia_ow]

You shouldn't reduce DPI, rather reduce in-game sensitivity. Higher DPI = more accurate aim and less aim latency. That's why I now play on 1600 DPI and 0.8 sensitivity (in Overwatch 2 & Apex Legends). I noticed more precise shots like using snipers became easier doing this. The lower you can get your in-game sensitivity, the better.

[@OAimer-xm4gw]

​This is true??​@@mycelia_ow

[@shadedoctor3377]

@@mycelia_ow your cooking up nothing its basically unnoticed able

[@adamlynn2974]

3:49 This was the thing that I hated about arm aiming. What I started doing about 6 months ago is to take a piece of paper and fold it in half and put on half under the mousepad and the other half where my arm rests. This GREATLY reduced the friction and arm aiming is so much easier.

[@HistoricalBrickStudios]

Glad to see I'm not the only person who came up with that trick 🤣, ended up getting a bigger mouse pad that fits my entire desk

[@2GreeDie]

@@HistoricalBrickStudios Always. Buy. An. XXXL. Must. Fill. Desk.

[@minimegam]

your palm shouldn't touch mousepad(grip like zywoo or donk,twistzz)

[@dCoder92]

I'm trying to switch from wrist aiming to arm aiming after 20 years of gaming (mostly fps games) 😊. I can feel my brain and body struggling so hard with this - it always wants to revert back to wrist aiming. But your tips are really helping me a lot and it's getting better and better every day. With wrist aiming, I used to play mostly with high mouse sensitivity. As soon as I started using arm aiming, I had to lower my sensitivity significantly. Funny, i never had any pain or injuries with my wrists.

[@rickyreload]

After watching this video, I had to watch all the others on the channel! Great content, indeed! All very motivational too. I hope a video will come out on how to find the right sensitivity. Keep it up!!

[@StruthGaming]

Thank you, much appreciated! Sensitivity is a tough topic, it's something i'm very interested in but i've been waiting until I can figure out a robust, repeatable method for finding it until I cover it. The main problem is that your most performative sensitivity isn't just a static number, it changes depending on your current sens range and even DPI used for general PC use. If I used 3200 DPI for a week, my 'perfect' sens would probably be something like 25~cm. But right now on 1200 DPI, it's more like 40cm~. Atm the way I find a good sensitivity is based too much on 'feel', need it to be more methodical if it's going to help viewers. Thanks for the reminder though, I'll give it some more thought.

[@yashizuki]

This type of content is very good, few people approach these topics. Arm position and table chair height make a lot of difference in performance and a lot of people think it's silly but it's not

[@Remu-]

Chair height is a very important aspect of how your aim feels like your mentioned and I 100% agree. I'm one of those people who sit at a slight angle towards the desk and I have a more lounge style position like the CS:GO pro JDM. My keyboard is right at the edge of the table but I have a nice comfortable pivot for my mouse against my forearm.

[@Frame2]

Most underrated aim coach i'm so happy I found you channel, your tips have really made me improve.

[@StruthGaming]

Thanks mate, I really appreciate that. Plenty more to come!

[@HimothyBeen]

Dude I’m new to pc and this video is helping me it pointed out some things I’m struggling with my arm on the edge of desk making it hard to move my arm and how close I should actually be sitting you earned a sub my man your appreciated for the help I can’t wait to try this tomorrow when home from work 4:19

[@TheMeta]

Good stuff, as usual, Struth!

[@madhusudantripathi5056]

Increased chair height as my irremovable armrest was becoming a nuisance. Tilted my mousepad a bit as you advised Started using my arm more than wrist coupled with medium edpi 350-400 W advices. Thanks a lot. GGs

[@Gabriel-it5jy]

great content man. got some of your claws in the mail right now, cant wait to give them a go.

[@HimothyBeen]

Dude I’m new to pc and this video is helping me it pointed out some things I’m struggling with my arm on the edge of desk making it hard to move my arm and how close I should actually be sitting you earned a sub my man your appreciated for the help I can’t wait to try this tomorrow when home from work

[@Playperman]

ty my dude, I couldn't find the correct position, now feels much better (I was too low and too far from the desk). Now higher and something under my feet, feels way better.

[@tf2dar]

thank you for this. i've been transitioning to a lower sensitivity as i've noticed i play better with lower sens. i've so far been a high sens aimer with the wrist at the edge of my mousepad lol

[@xen1868]

Been arm aiming on accident for years (I play surf) now I gotta build the Muscle memory to Hybrid.

[@Vestean]

thank you bro. i was struggling so much but you had extremely helpful tips🤙

[@Mrgigawatt]

I didnt realize I already play like this. Its the MOST comfortable and accurate way imo.

[@uimbtw6300]

ive always been a little unconfortable ancoring my elbow on my arm rest. I will try this, thanks.

[@StruthGaming]

Let me know how you go :)

[@marcoarriaga6370]

Tysm I started hating playing on kbm cause my wrist felt so discomfort this helped me a lot

[@LimitlessPking]

the writing in cursive analogy was perfect

[@rReev]

Just changed the angle of my setup to be able to fit my arm on the desk, feels way more comfortable! Thank you ❤️

[@akhilrawat3897]

Currently my point of contact is mainly wrist but i constantly use my arm to flick around,swipe and do larger flicks so i hope that counts as arm aiming because i am a fingertip aimer so it's basically considered wrist aiming

[@ato5390]

My aiming is not stable. When I put 100% of my forearm on the table, I flick very well, but when I put 70% or even 80% of my forearm on the table, I feel different and my aim is quite bad. And you know that during a match, your entire forearm is not always on the table. So is my problem psychological or is there really a difference?

[@phantom498]

There is a 100% a difference. Aiming is inherently biomechanical. This means setting up your body in the most comfortable and consistent way possible for you to aim is the best way to improve and aim consistently. Messing with your body’s positioning can improve or harm your aim. But your best bet for long term health is to learn to aim in the most ergonomic and comfortable position and adjust the rest of your body from there. Trust as someone who has obsessively worked on aim for the past 3-4 years, you will save yourself a lot of pain. I’ve heard of someone even needing back surgery because of their poor gaming posture.

[@DzikriKhoirul]

I did this method since a year ago with my intuition, and youtube algorithm gaves me this video So i think that this method is the right thing

[@Kiingohere]

i wish i've seen this video before its been a year since i did that and i didnt know all of this until recently by my self and it helped a lot my aim kept being consistent which that was my problem really helpful tips !

[@benjaminasracas4525]

Yes, I've already known all of this, but it's a great explanation for those who don't

[@GearzU]

donk best cs 2 player and best aimer in the game play with arm aiming. He is mastered it.

[@richardbrooksshnee]

As an arm aimer, seeing this made my day😊

[@perspicacity89]

Great video, thank you!

[@anwarthekiller180]

bro aiming aside your arm is majestic

[@imperialstew6032]

On one hand this makes sense as you have more degrees of freedom to move around, however, the added degrees of freedom leaves more room for a definite amount of error. For example, if you solely wrist aim the only thing moving is your wrist, sure there will be error when you move your wrist but since you aren't moving your arm you don't need to worry about additional error from arm movement. A hybrid approach has both arm and wrist error that an isolated wrist approach generally does not. Solely arm aiming likely incurs wrist error though because your wrist doesn't lock in place and will still shift a little as you play. This is purely theoretical and doesn't factor in playing at a much lower dpi. Just applying engineering tolerance concepts to accurate arm motion. Important to mention though that I'm not some god gamer, I'm definitely above average but not some monster at aiming. I generally play with a planted wrist at 950 dpi. Not sure what it ends up being with my in-game sense but in-game sense is kept low (2.0 on titanfall 2). If I get a larger mouse pad I may try arm aiming a little more but many of the weapons in titanfall have little to no bloom and I do hit most of my shots.

[@CalSniffsMilo]

as a life long controller player now beginning m&k on keyboard this makes a lot of sense and hopefully helps xD

[@luuhcky]

Has it helped?

[@CalSniffsMilo]

@@luuhcky its definitely more comfortable so yeah so far it has

[@fuchsi_arzeus]

"Mum, mum wake up struth posted a new video"

[@doozy_plus]

I will edit this comment in about a week after trying the steps shown in this video I'll be 100% honest, if this works, I love you.

[@TheMainEvnt601]

Always great stuff bro. Salute

[@StruthGaming]

Thank you!

[@Derrek44]

Thank you for the video! Very helpful😁 Before watching, I used to have a pivot point on my arm which I would maintain at all times, thinking it helped with consistency. This made me feel uncomfortable and restricted. Now I understand it wasn't ideal.

[@StruthGaming]

Glad it helped!

[@zyntril6404]

Man, I've been trying to get this right for days now, but I just can't seem to do it. My arm always starts to hurt, whether it's after a while or instantly. It's almost like there are a few muscles that are super weak or something. I only feel comfortable when my whole arm is resting on the table, but then my wrist starts to angle upwards or doesn't rest correctly on the table when I start aim training. As I continue to aim train, my wrist becomes even more angled upwards. Alternatively, my posture may be compromised and not ergonomic.

[@delroku]

me with a tiny desk and sitting in a wire chair with no paddding: whoa, slow down mr moneybags!

[@ondesk9943]

Really nice content for who want step up on FPS games!!!

[@StruthGaming]

Appreciate that :)

[@vinconssier4224]

thanks so much man, my posture was so bad

[@felixgaede6754]

Telling gamers to wash their hands, genius!

[@jacobfield4848]

Nice information.

[@ZINDRO_KBM]

100% right GOOD STUFF !!!

[@phantomthief6234]

after about 7 years of playing with wrist it makes me feel so slow when i play with arm and wrist

[@phantomthief6234]

and its just su[er uncomfortable

[@Erdinc_B]

Damn. This is exactly what i do when i am gaming. You need a deep desk. I have 65cm deep desk and i am using almost 55cm with this method. Also non-texture surface mousepads makes an easier move capability without injury and uncomfortable moving. But the second most important thing is the monitor size and your distance to monitor. 35cm is enough for me with my 27" 2K monitor on Valorant.

[@DionPalmore-i3d]

ty i need this

[@taidadesu4879]

was having issues w my wrist n this pops up guess its the arm aim arc

[@StruthGaming]

An arm aim a day keeps the RSI away.

[@taidadesu4879]

@@StruthGaming i did not succeed in arm aiming in my session today :)

[@StruthGaming]

@@taidadesu4879 go next

[@garrettdekle9602]

"arm getting stuck? CLEAN YOURSELF" HAHAHAHA

[@mage4954]

hey really like ur video can u please tell what chair are u using i am stuck trying to chouse something comfortable thx! ;D

[@scarekrow1264]

For 9gag fans imagine a Confess Bear Meme with this text --- I always say to my boys that i will put on my gaming sock. They think i want to tell them that i give 100% now... but in reality i was just cutting the toes out from a long sport sock and use it as a sleeve when i just have a tshirt on and stick with my forearm while gaming. works fabulous!

[@ZRZK2127]

i used to feel like i aimed with my wrist now i feel like i aim with the part that almost becomes my elbow. that's better right?

[@Master-Cunninglinguist]

I got REALLY in to overwatch 1 around season 8 or so. near strict arm aiming saved my wrist and made me amazing at FPS with kbm. Im hoping to find advice for the keyboard hand. I can't seem to nail it ergonomics wise.

[@mycelia_ow]

What sensitivity did you play at? I play OW2 and 1600 dpi with 0.8 seems to be a sweetspot for hitscans and snipers.

[@blackopsjitt]

My desk too damn skinny 😂😂😂😂 TIME TO SPEND MONEY!

[@kadu1029]

Hybrid is the way. Wrist for control Arm for flicks

[@ZINDRO_KBM]

A tip for you, sit at an angle to your table. This way you can have 80% of your arm on the table without increasing the angle between your upper and lower arm.

[@CitizenTechTalk]

Great video mate! Coming from someone with a similar setup you're right on the money here!

[@StruthGaming]

Thank you!

[@Venkullix]

woah woah woah washing my arm with soap? i came here for gaming buddy we dont do that out here

[@whiteshadow2375]

i almost teared something while just using my wrist and my movements are limited now so i should of watched this earlier

[@abhijaysaraswat2833]

I have noticed that when im aiming only with my wirst it feels more flexible and i have a larger span of moving left and right but when i try arm aiming im not able to use my wirst as much the span decreases and it doesnt feel as much flexible in short im not able use my wrist in the entire range of motion and it gets difficult to aim.Is it normal?

[@sid_x_18]

Could you do Analysis/breakdown of minigodcs’s aiming style . He is also very much like Hybrid aimer . He has several high score record on aimlabs

[@Blinkk135]

Let's not forget the importance of small movements that can be produced by the fingers to help redirect your crosshair for those headshots.

[@MrDunedan]

Great content

[@Warrior25]

Share that beautiful kovaaks theme please 🗿

[@StruthGaming]

You can actually find it in-game under Visuals > Theme > Load Themes > Struth Dark Too easy :)

[@dignified5340]

no way simply telling me to remove the arm rest fixed everything

[@batmansteel778]

IKR

[@JPDD2]

A lot of yall need soap and water AFTER you game because of how sweaty you play 😂

[@deqod4949]

I started by only using finger tip right now I use wrist and fingers I'm trying to be able to use all together but using my arm feels very weird

[@luxsolisiii]

i have just been using my wrist for the past 3 years

[@PistolSovereign]

u are like the Ron Rambo Kim of Overwatch 2

[@webdevtutorials6579]

Bro, what chair are you using, I've been playing fps games uncomfortably since ever, im not even sure if my chair is the problem or the desk is a bit high

[@6torthor]

Yep, I hate gaming with arm rests specifically for this reason. They get in the way for proper posture

[@AdrianDWolfe]

Watching the part about elbow aiming and armrests, would you still rest your elbow on an armrest for your keyboard arm?

[@VerqProduction]

Just so ive understood everything; I should use my wrist and let my arm follow it. Dont anchor my wrist?

[@marcelbrummer5098]

Awesome your a pro man.I hope to be a tenth of what you are someday...Just for the funnies..Can we talk about this mans feet at 2.28 ? It has no bridge and it's flat...Like you have your feet firmly planted in life my man😁.Just joking you are cool

[@POLAR-64]

This is how I play, but I have a problem with tracking. Very good at flicking. Tracking close is easy especially with being able to flick but tracking medium to farm is difficult. I have been playing keyboard and mouse for years and I know what I like, but I am wondering if anyone knows what my issue might be? I play the hybrid approach just like this guy. Tracking feels so stiff and I am okay at it but it's something I need to be better at to improve

[@fearlessgabriel8671]

I have a dollar store mousepad that is small so if i try to move both my arm and wrist, the mousepad will move with it and i do not want to scratch my desk when moving my mouse

[@crea5r]

the problem I have with this video is I dont see you moving ur arm up and down? I tried and its a lot harder for me than just using wrist. I really don't understand. Yes you move it a bit, but what if im above a player and hes all the way below me? I have to move my arm all the way back, instead of just using my wrist and doing it simpler.

[@sharmuuu]

Funny thing I always only arm aim, can't do wrist at all because it's so shaky, but it might be my essential tremor, but I am not really sure, I might be just not used to it

[@Lazeyad438]

Finally found who use arm aim only

[@Soliinu]

amazing content.

[@StruthGaming]

Thank you!

[@ProfessorZ]

Can I ask what sensitivity per 360 are you using? Just for comparsion with your hand movement in the video :) Thanks

[@StruthGaming]

That KovaaK's footage was at 45cm on 103 HFOV I believe.

[@rauhra4821]

Hello I have a question, I have been using my wrist to aim but ever since I tried out this "hybrid" technique and I extend my arm I found myself unable to move my fingers for micro flicking. Is there any particular reason for this? I really want to switch to this hybrid technique

[@abhijaysaraswat2833]

i face the same problem.Do you also face issue in moving ur wirst in the entire range of motion does it feel less flexible than wrist only aiming and did ur aim become worse after trying this hybrid technique?

[@rauhra4821]

@@abhijaysaraswat2833 My aim became worse, I can tell its definitely not for me haha. I'm sticking to my wrist only

[@rauhra4821]

@@abhijaysaraswat2833 It felt less flexible, if you want to try this you should try using an arm sleeve

[@Nibiru_-_Gen_Z_Warlock]

1:33 which i am entire incapable of doing because my dogshit book oriented desk has 2 shelves directly underneeth very unfortunate circumstance

[@Vestean]

i unscrewed the bottom of my wood desk and then i put things below my desk legs to make it high enough for my chair to go under

[@bravosix449]

Thanks for video! I have a question does dpi cause inconsistency? I play valorant with 1000 dpi and 0.29 ingame. My frnds suggest that i should switch to 800 dpi

[@StruthGaming]

As far as i'm aware on modern mice it shouldn't cause any problems outside of extremely low (100~) or extremely high (4000~+) DPI settings. I play on 1200 atm, have used 1000 extensively too. Never been able to perceive any problems. The one thing I believe it can influence is what sensitivities 'feel' most comfortable, as you get accustomed to the mouse movements needed for general PC use. If you were to play on 400 DPI, lower sensitivities probably will feel more comfortable. If you were to play on 3200 DPI, higher sensitivities will likely feel comfortable. 1000 is a solid mid-range option that feels great for general PC use so I wouldn't worry too much about it. Changing from 1000 to 800 also isn't much of a jump, so not a lot would change.

[@p.4lvv]

may I know what sensitivity do you use in cm/360 ?

[@i_are_penguin805]

So i cant really sit with my belly touching my desk because my chair doesn't have adjustable armrests and i cant remove them because they are what is holding the back of my chair to the seat of my chair sooo I have no idea what to do.

[@Sang1337]

I currently have my wrist at the edge of the desk like this 1:04, gonna try to change that

[@durgaprasadmadishetti588]

What is your rank

[@truthsfuls-6190]

I’ve been aiming with just my wrist for years been trying aiming with my arm just doesn’t feel as precise

[@zitchaden]

fax

[@shamrooooock]

Step one: get enough mouse room

[@natsudragneel2258]

My arm sticks to the desk too much unfortunately

[@ernestgary6812]

This was actually helpfull Im a noob

[@Shinra369]

Thx...

[@parcoyu7103]

but how do you pull down with posture? I saw your other video and end up with similar posture to yours, but every time I try to pull down to control recoil ( or just vertical movements in general) I find my chair blocking my shoulders and arm, and naturally my body compensated it by rolling my shoulders forward as the "starting position" like what you said at 3:06, so I have more wiggle room when performing downwards movement

[@Iam4Ever2Present]

can you make a tutorial on this for people with keyboard trays

[@StruthGaming]

That can be tricky depending on the desk. Generally, I would keep it retracted and play from on top of the desk if possible. That can cause some issues with it feeling like it's too high up, or your knees getting blocked by the tray though.

[@snommy783]

I have a low mousepad area and therefore I play with a high sensitivity, can my aim still get good even if I don't use my arm at all for aiming?

[@fancen]

the best

[@1rubbercloud]

what if my chair is too wide to even fit that close to my desk??