How To Start Print On Demand Without a Following

[@GregGottfried]

I hope this video is helpful! Here are the links mentioned & Table of Contents: Merch Informer 20% OFF: merchinformer.com/779.html [Greg20] Placeit 15% OFF: bit.ly/Placeit-save-15 OpenAI ChatGPT: chat.openai.com Table of Contents: 0:00 Introduction 0:37 Different Ways To Do Print On Demand 1:15 How To Start Print On Demand Without a Following 3:17 How To Find T-Shirt Ideas 4:50 How To Find Profitable T-Shirt Niches 7:11 Print On Demand 'Secret Sauce' 8:52 How To Find T-Shirt Slogans 9:57 How To Check Copyrights & Trademarks 11:47 How To Create T-Shirt Designs That Sell 16:45 Best Print On Demand Websites 17:47 How To Create a Print On Demand Seller Account 19:51 How To Upload T-Shirt Designs To Sell

[@MUNTAZIR-H]

HI Greg, I had sent you an email check it out please

[@niclorena8042]

Hi Greg! Is it possible to sell POD without shelling out any money? Could you please make videos on being able to sell tshirts totally free? Thank you!

[@superbvajhuvina]

This is exactly what I was looking for! Most tutorials assume you already have a big audience, but you really broke down how beginners can still succeed with print-on-demand. Thanks for always keeping it realistic!

[@derekextreme5149]

Spent 2 days watching numerous videos on this subject, and this is miles ahead of the rest. Super clear and extremely useful, thanks!

[@GregGottfried]

Awesome to hear that! If you run into any questions just let me know 👍

[@shiv9655]

I must say - What a commendable job you have done in helping out some one like me who is just conceptualising starting a print on demand business. Amazing work and much thanks!

[@GregGottfried]

Perfect thank you! If you run into any questions just let me know 👍

[@ebrahima123]

Tutorial like this will move you to a million subscribers very soon. Always amazing videos …

[@GregGottfried]

I appreciate that. Thank you! As always if you run into any questions just let me know 👍

[@FrancescaReviews]

I don’t typically comment a lot but this time I had to. This video was absolutely incredible. Thank you SO much 🙏

[@GregGottfried]

I appreciate that, thank you and if you run into any questions just let me know

[@danielleallenyoung7992]

This was by far one of the best POD videos that I’ve seen. And I have seen quite a few. Disregard the negative comments. You are doing a great job 👏🏾

[@GregGottfried]

I appreciate that! I’m here if you run into any questions too 👍

[@danielleallenyoung7992]

@@GregGottfried Thank you so much ☺️

[@jeffhiggins8087]

Bravo! I tried POD before and it was just too complicated. Your explanation makes it look much easier. We will see. Thank you!

[@GregGottfried]

Glad it was helpful! If you run into any questions just let me know 👍

[@Salman-v6c]

@@GregGottfried beside placeit, as it is paid, which tool or software would you recommend to create designs that are easy to create on,

[@BellatrixV]

I've really been enjoying your videos. I can tell you put alot of work into them. & thanks for not gatekeeping lol

[@GregGottfried]

I appreciate that!

[@truckart]

This video is a gem! So informative. ❤ Just two questions: 1. When signing up to these marketlpaces, they ask for country. If im outside the US, will i have to pay taxes? 2. Do all 3 accept PayPal?

[@Kim-p8o2k]

One of the best POD videos I've watched. Thanks for the straightforward training and helpful tips!

[@GregGottfried]

Glad it was helpful! If you run into any questions just let me know 👍

[@PeterGallagher1]

Definitely the most concise and informative for getting started.

[@GregGottfried]

Thanks! Here’s the super detailed one too: The Complete Print On-Demand Masterclass (FREE COURSE) kzbin.info/www/bejne/qpzdhX2LnNaAf5I

[@renzo8922]

I am thinking if starting a print on demand business and honestly this has helped me A LOT thank you!

[@arigutman]

Always great content, Greg, love coming here and seeing the growth of this channel and business just taking off one day after the next!

[@GregGottfried]

Thanks man! Planning to chat soon…Busy as ever on this side. Thanks for stoppin’ by!

[@arigutman]

@@GregGottfried let’s do… have plenty of questions for you, but keep on rocking man you’re crushing it!

[@praserttabud]

Always get some benefit from your fantastic sharing ,so appreciate,Thanks Greg.

[@GregGottfried]

Glad to hear that. Thank you 🙏

[@Tfguuhxs]

I watch your videos several times 1) so it sticks…even though most info may be the same, there is info you add as time changes and print on demand sites add or take away features. On your list if possible one day if you haven’t already on how to created multiple designs then for each design create multiple mock-ups for all your designs at one time. I have tried a Canva process using an excel spreadsheet, but it is not user friendly and it ends up taking more time in the long run. If there is a faster process to do this? that would be great! Thanks for info!

[@CommittedWifeTV]

I have been watching your videos. I have started some steps and hope to have T-shirt designs uploaded by the end of the week. Thanks so much! :)

[@sooperkidsglory]

Greg welcome back, glad you are here and thanks for your guidance, please give some touch to tee spring and it's new feature All over print please share soon 😅

[@GregGottfried]

Hey thanks! Their all over prints are awesome but Teespring changed to Spring and now is an active print on demand company (so no more marketplace to get organic buyers).

[@LadyJ2075]

Thank you for sharing this valuable information. It’s an excellent resource for someone new to digital and online selling. I’ll definitely give it a try. I do have a question. Do these site allow you to put a link on your own website?

[@LizDayShow]

Excellent video, Greg! Very helpful, concise & informative. I also appreciate you timestamping the video to make it easier to rewatch a section when needed. Thank you!

[@TheWinezen]

Good video tutorial. Thank you. What is the average profit margin for each piece sold?

[@TF_Lea]

im glad i found this channel... thank youu gregg

[@GregGottfried]

🙌 Glad you found it! I’m here if you need anything

[@drewzilla1263]

great video! lots of detail, explained well with screen sharing as well. Excellent

[@guldenbolat2224]

Thanks for the valuable info. Are we able to do custom shirts with these platforms?

[@hanaam.4636]

Thank you Greg! great video as always, Greg you didn't mention how we will get our money? Thank you again!

[@GregGottfried]

Thanks for the comment, great question, I should have discussed this a bit more in the video. Each of the sites does payments their own way, however across the board you will be paid either automatically direct deposit to your bank each month, automatically paid to your PayPal each month, or funds build up in your account and you can choose how often you want to withdraw them either into PayPal/Payoneer/direct deposit. I hope that helps clarify!

[@hanaam.4636]

@@GregGottfried Thanks alot 👍

[@Boston_Love]

Really appreciate your information, new subscriber!

[@GregGottfried]

@@Boston_Love thanks! If you run into any questions just let me know 👍

[@INSPO-hl2lq]

Your video is so informative! Thank you for your tutorial vids! You make it easy to follow. I'm rewatching it and actually doing it! Today is day 1 (:

[@GregGottfried]

Congrats on getting started! If you run into any questions just let me know 👍

[@INSPO-hl2lq]

@@GregGottfried Thank you so much! I've been researching and taking a lot of notes! Thank you for your video on Merch Informer as well! It's so much easier to navigate and understand what I'm looking at 😁

[@tiigalilly5320]

wow that was an awesome presentation and I'm totally not tech savvy but picked up on most of this Kool

[@GregGottfried]

Glad it was helpful! If you run into any questions just let me know 👍

[@nicolebridegroom3441]

Thank you so much for explaining this as if everyone is new and no one knows what the heck we’re doing lol

[@GregGottfried]

lol no worries! I personally like when people break things down super simply so I try my best to do the same here. If you run into any questions just let me know 👍

[@nickdyer6603]

Hi Greg …good see you back

[@GregGottfried]

Thanks 🙏 If you have any video topics you’d like to see covered just let me know

[@gloriadunn1315]

Your video is great! You provide the information a beginner can easily follow. I'm wondering what would be an approximate of the return from your design on this pod site.

[@vincebaker3384]

For the three print-on-demand sites that you mentioned in this video what is the average split for a t-shirt? Or which one pays the most?

[@GregGottfried]

Great question! Teepublic is the lowest with automated pricing. Typically only a couple dollars per sale, but nice that they manage pricing and sales. RedBubble and Amazon are custom set pricing so you can set your margin. Typically $5 is average on a $19.99 shirt sale 👍 During trends or holidays you can up that to $23.99 for the shirts selling well and get almost $10 profit per sale.

[@afsana2595]

Amazing work and thank you so much.

[@GregGottfried]

Glad you liked it! If you run into any questions just let me know 👍

[@toe2toe138]

Hi Greg, Thank you for another great video. Colours : Is it better to offer a wide range of colours or say 6 of the most popular colours as too many colours to choose from may confuse the seller?

[@KevinJones-kr4of]

Greg, I really enjoy your videos. They are very informative. Question, I have two different niches I’d like to explore. Do you recommend setting up a different store for each?

[@GregGottfried]

Thanks and great question. If you are using a POD marketplace website, you can actually upload both niches to your account as normal without needing to create storefronts. The marketplaces will show them in the corresponding niches in the marketplace results automatically 👍

[@KevinJones-kr4of]

@@GregGottfried Awesome! Thank you!!

[@truptimannina3097]

Thanks Greg! Super helpful video. I have my own designs do you think place it is still worth it?

[@sangeet9586]

Thank you for covering every single aspect of the process in such detail !

[@GregGottfried]

No problem! If you run into any questions just let me know 👍

[@angelmedrano4698]

GREAT VIDEO! LOTS OF GREAT INFORMATION. THANKS

[@GregGottfried]

@@angelmedrano4698 thank you!

[@pamelaferreira4142]

Thanks for all of your important information.

[@mori_rin5152]

Hello, thanks for the great tutorial! In order to get paid on regular basis, how many designs should we make in a day?

[@GregGottfried]

Great question! The short answer is, as many as you can.. I know that’s not super helpful but I would recommend at least 100 and then you can upload those same designs to all 3 websites (to give you 300 live listings). If you can make them on trends or seasonal events in the beginning you will get the fastest sales 👍

[@jp2227-l7g]

Hi Greg I have a question. Great channel👍 … think I’ve grasped the basic concept. Couple of quick questions… When you find a “topic” with a competition score of let’s say an A or a B would you still dig down to look for sub niches within that overall topic or would you just run with the overall topic? Also, I’ve found a couple of niche ideas when I’ve been following the process … only to find that there are very few (sometimes none at all) or design templates on placeit that cover that niche / or designs that are unsuitable. Is there a blank template on placeit we could use to just create shirt designs with just slogans rather than images … seems a shame to have to abandon a promising niche idea purely on the basis that there is no suitable image that can be used … if the niche is under served even a text only design would be better than walking away from the niche and looking for something else wouldn't it?

[@elena79rus]

The best video out there! Thank you so much. What do you think about Etsy and eBay? These are also popular marketplaces.

[@ericfactor9972]

What would you recommend for a good way to advertise a seller's brand- printed on a T-shirt, for example - that is being sold on multiple platforms? Like Nike has the swoosh & everyone knows what that symbol represents. If a seller wants to direct potential buyers to their stores using the product as a walking billboard, how what you recommend doing that?

[@SaifurRahman-h8y]

Hi Greg, I am saifur from Dhaka, Bangladesh. I am just applied to merch on amazon after view your videos again and again. now i am waiting for the approval. after today video i am going to start open pod on red and tee. Thanks for your fruitful informatics video. i will come back to you in if needed any help.

[@btsofficial2.0]

Hi bro . I did same . We can help each other

[@SaifurRahman-h8y]

@@btsofficial2.0 i got rejected by amazon merch. Now applied 2nd time. Hope these time will accept.

[@SaifurRahman-h8y]

@@btsofficial2.0 did you get the approval?

[@mxdstudios]

Great video with fantastic information , willbe very helpfull to talk about net profits on the t-shirts

[@fischlfamily]

Thanks 🙏🏼 with all the details.

[@GregGottfried]

Glad it was helpful! If you run into any questions just let me know 👍

[@anitalacanlale5842]

Million thanks Greg for the info. 🥰🥰🥰

[@GregGottfried]

Thank you 🙏 If you run into any questions just let me know!

[@martint4629]

Fantastic Video! Thank you.

[@GregGottfried]

Thanks! If you run into any questions just let me know 👍

[@brendamurty8655]

Great information! Thanks!

[@josihightower7207]

Great info like.always. Thanks about the copyright and trademark..not enough people talk about these things 🎉. Greg can you publish your product wirh a mockup from Placeit? With a person wearing it I mean

[@GregGottfried]

Thanks! I agree, copyright and trademark are a huge topic in POD and should really get a lot more focus. Yes, you can use the design from Placeit to put on a mockups on Placeit and download it as well. These are great for social media pages and anywhere you're doing marketing for your designs 👍

[@josihightower7207]

@@GregGottfried ❤️

[@rahsaanel1908]

Can you upload your own design or logo on the Placeit platform? Also, thanks a lot for sharing all this great information.

[@GregGottfried]

Yes you can 👍 If you click the add button in the bottom left and then choose graphic you can upload from your computer

[@baywoodhomedesigns]

Great video. I'm just starting out and in the learning phase. One thing you didn't mention was pricing of the items. Do you have a video that discusses how to price products? Thank you.

[@GregGottfried]

Thanks! Great question. Yes it’s covered it other videos but no worries. The gist of it is Teepublic has automated pricing so they take care of all the pricing for us. Typically only a couple dollars profit per sale, but nice that they manage pricing and running sales for us. RedBubble and Amazon are custom set pricing so you can set your margin. I aim for $19.99 price per tshirt. Typically $5 is the average profit on a $19.99 shirt sale 👍 During trends or holidays you can up that to $23.99 for the shirts selling well and get almost $10 profit per sale.

[@baywoodhomedesigns]

@@GregGottfried Thanks for the reply. I'll check out the other videos, but this is very helpful. I appreciate it!

[@MachellWright]

Awesome video!!

[@GregGottfried]

Thanks! If you run into any questions just let me know 👍

[@LFCLifestyleFinancialChanger]

Great video !

[@kanikajaiswal6097]

Hey greg, Can you please make a full tutorial on the topic of How to Post and promote our Print on demand Designs on Social Media Creatively Specially On Instagram and Pinterest Please make a full practical tutorial on this topic

[@GregGottfried]

Absolutely! Here’s a full one on that topic on the channel: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eqe6d6qBiKp1r9k If you run into any questions just let me know 👍

[@tmw_62]

Thanks, really helpful

[@GregGottfried]

Thank you! If you run into any questions just let me know 👍

[@tahaansari913]

Hey Greg! Great video, just a quick one .. how does one get paid after the designs are published on the online marketplaces?

[@GregGottfried]

Thanks for the comment, great question, I should have discussed this a bit more in the video. Each of the sites does payments their own way, however across the board you will be paid either automatically direct deposit to your bank each month, automatically paid to your PayPal each month, or funds build up in your account and you can choose how often you want to withdraw them either into PayPal/Payoneer/direct deposit. I hope that helps clarify!

[@Jason-zh7wo]

Great info! thanks

[@arichards2379]

Great breakdown of the POD process. Thanks so much!

[@GregGottfried]

Glad it was helpful! If you run into any questions just let me know 👍

[@JeepsyPainter]

Thank you, great gap fill in research topics for me.

[@christalkarat1240]

Can you talk more about payment; Bank account or PayPal, please?😊

[@nickjames2521]

Hi Greg, loved this tutorial! My question is: can I upload my original line drawings (black pen and ink on white backgrounds)? Will these sites be able to transfer them to invisible backgrounds? Could my designs be stolen? Thanks!

[@juliodee7655]

The title of the video is based on "start print on demand without a following", however, following your video and creating an account on Teepublic I was on "Pending" status before changed to "Apprentice" (one of two Account types). This type of account clearly notes "NOT eligible for visibility in on-site search" (the NOT is capitalised by Teepublic, not me). Doing some research, it is noted designs in Apprentice accounts need to be marketed on social media or other means. I also found that a few months ago many Teepublic users were downgraded to Apprentice Accounts (even users with over 1,000 designs) - their products no longer appearing Teepublic search results and lost sales because of this. Can you help me understand if I missed a step or how my designs and products can be found on Teepublic without a following?

[@danielmickelson3980]

Curious to learn how I can create my own unique design, like from scratch, or using some type of art and text tools. Any ideas where to start? Thank you!

[@GregGottfried]

Great question. Here’s my process: How I Make Best Selling T-Shirt Designs (Full Tutorial) kzbin.info/www/bejne/p5rPl3t4r5isb7c

[@Reyglondrina]

You saved my life🎉...thank u

[@LynnSanFilippo-zg5kf]

Hi Greg, which platform would you recommend for people who draw/create their own designs and want to use them in print on demand products? Placeit, Kittl, Canva etc? I also need to be able to place text anywhere on or off my graphics. Thanks!

[@fotofigures]

Thanks Greg. Is there a video on PRICING and profit margins? Do they all set the pricing or can we have a say?

[@GregGottfried]

Great question! I really should make a designated video, but I believe I cover it in this one: kzbin.info/www/bejne/lYi1mop_epygobc

[@KevinDouglas-x9p]

Thanks for this! I wanna start my store but I wanna know more about providers. Can you make a video talking about awkward styles, gelato and printify?

[@sunnyinyourarea]

which products are you looking for?

[@horsepanther]

Super useful video, thank you! You got a new subscriber. :-) Question: I got rejected by Amazon Merch on Demand a few months ago and at the time, they said it was not possible to re-apply; but recently I saw some comments that people are able to reapply again. Do you know the status? Thanks!

[@GregGottfried]

Thanks! Yes, you can re-apply as many times as you'd like but you have to use a different email address. I've also heard of some people running into needing a different phone number too, but that seems to only be in some locations. Here's a good video with more details on application tips: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nYitp3R8nptsaKM Hope that's helpful, and good luck!

[@renatacantave9588]

what a wonderful tutorial!

[@GregGottfried]

Thanks! If you run into any questions just let me know 👍

[@renatacantave9588]

@@GregGottfried I am doing all my research before I start, all you are saying looks great, however, how do you advertise your products without a following?

[@olukayodeodusi9803]

Greg. You are doing great woth your post. Am really glad

[@GregGottfried]

I appreciate that! As always I’m here if you need any help 👍

[@MsMakw]

Thank you -- very helpful

[@GregGottfried]

Glad it was helpful! If you run into any questions just let me know 👍

[@regalstoic]

Thank you for sharing

[@GregGottfried]

No worries. Thank you for the comment. If you run into any questions just let me know 👍

[@aamirsaleemkhan4687]

Bro you make best video i appreciate you but i hve questions I choose fourthwall for pod is good or bad please please please reply ❤❤

[@GregGottfried]

Thanks! They are great but they are an active POD website so you will have to bring your own buyers with marketing and advertising. Amazon, RedBubble, and Teepublic are passive POD websites so they bring the buyers for you 👍

[@TomNelson10-m3b]

Hey great video! One question, what happens if the design/slogan you use is available when you use it, but later becomes trademarked?

[@Bateeaba]

How pricing will work like if I get a sale, how much will they pay me for that sale? explain pricing 😅 please

[@wisdomebisingha1419]

Thank you very much for your video. It is really helpful. Please how do you add your account details to receive your money

[@nfenfe9452]

OMG thank you so much ! am i able to connect my Teepublic to my website i have ?

[@la_la_land_twig]

Hello, thank you for the very meaningful video. I have a suggestion that my product is not beautiful and of good quality. Can you suggest some places where it can be done?

[@eze3572]

Im starting to see a trend that every “tool” available to be successful costs $$ .. would you say sales are almost guaranteed using these tactics to the tee Or will it still be an up in the air sales results?

[@GregGottfried]

I actually agree with this, but I think it's because in order to succeed you need to have something 'unique' that everyone else doesn't have. Paid tools are often the way to achieve this because 99% of other people won't pay for a tool, so it gives you an advantage.

[@eze3572]

You’re a really good salesman… can you do a video on that. 😂 Also if a niche is an “A” doesn’t that mean absolutely no one is searching for that and no demand? Anyway this is cool

[@shemnilon504]

I really want to try this

[@samrusyoga]

Hi, I don’t really care about making money or finding “what’s going to sell”, I just have sone designs that I want to get printed mostly so I can rep my brand. What print on demand clothing website do you recommend for this? I really don’t wanna have to get a whole press & do stamps the homemade way either because I have a lot going on already. I’ve heard of Ali baba & Bella canvas. Let me know, thanks!

[@GregGottfried]

Great question. You can do this on Teepublic and RedBubble, but for your specific case I would recommend Printful. They have the largest catalog of apparel options and some very high quality options too. Hope that's helpful 👍

[@AlaaYehya-z4k]

Hello great video! how can I register my phrase on the t-shirt to be a trade mark ? can I do it through Merch Informer?

[@cruzda3]

Be careful with Off-site marketing. Mine was not free and tore into my profits and I had no choice in the matter. Food for thought.

[@MarshmallowCheerio]

I did membership with Etsy before I seen this can I upload there too ?

[@patrickdesranleau184]

hello Greg thank you for this video I was just wondering how we are getting paid I didn't set up any bank account or PayPal and also how do we set up the front store Thank you again

[@cin2thefuture372]

Do you recommend putting designs. On etsy?

[@MareSimone1]

So the obvious question I'd like to ask is what percentages do redbubble teepublic and Amazon merch take off the top?

[@GregGottfried]

Great question. Generally speaking, shirts cost about $10 to get printed and shipped. That varies a bit but it gives a good starting point. With a shirt priced at $19.99 we get a profit of about $5. So generally, I'd say they split the profit with us pretty close to evenly. Given that they do all the marketing, customer service, printing, and shipping, it's a good deal for us 👍 If you use websites like Printful, Printify, or Gelato, you can make the full $10 profit yourself, but the biggest cost to factor in is advertising. The better you get at paid ads, the higher you can keep your profit, but for most people, especially those just starting out, it costs more than $10 in paid ads to get a single shirt sale. I hope that all makes sense and helps!

[@Dubeproduce]

Which is best merch informer or merch dominator?

[@GregGottfried]

They share a lot of similarities but I personally use Merch Informer because they have more accurate results 👍

[@heatherweber531]

Of the 16-32.00 how much is your cut?

[@GregGottfried]

Great question. On a tshirt, the average profit we receive is somewhere around $5. KZbin get to set your own pricing on RedBubble and Amazon so you can increase that if you’d like. I hope that helps!

[@wendysanders781]

Will this work in the UK too?

[@GregGottfried]

Yes it does 👍

[@la_la_land_twig]

Hi, thank you for the very meaningful and helpful video. Can you recommend me some companies with good prices and high fulfillment quality?

[@discoveramerica8097]

Hi Can you tell me did you heard about Amazon starting print on demand fbm Not the merch I'm talking about Please Make the video about this content Can you make kittl instead of placeit Thanks

[@GregGottfried]

Hi yes it’s done by using Amazon Seller Central account and integrating a third party print on demand provider. The only downside is it’s $39/month for that type of Amazon account, and you will have to pay for each order upfront for the third party print on demand fulfiller to print and ship it.

[@iDrealFrehk]

Why didn't you include Spring (formerly know as Tspring)?

[@GregGottfried]

They changed their marketplace and went to an active print on demand model 😑

[@MiguelSerrano-r9c]

What would be a possible scenario if you use a phrase that is not trademarked but later after you sell some shirts, someone goes ahead and trademarks it? Also, when we start getting good number of sales. Should we consider filing for an LLC?

[@Aamena786]

Hey, Is there another site where I can sell my products? Amazon Merch on Demand does not pay to South African banks? But thanks for the great video! ♥

[@GregGottfried]

Hey yes you can use RedBubble and Teepublic too. Try using Payoneer’s marketing place payment service for Amazon 👍

[@greywolf4784]

hi, greg. this might a little bit off topic. but when you started your POD business, did you already use a business paypal account, or a personal one? thanks.😊

[@GregGottfried]

Great question. The POD sites don't mind if we use a personal or business PayPal account. Since we are not sending invoices through PayPal, personal is absolutely fine to use 👍

[@KamleshSingh-dx8wu]

​​​@@GregGottfried please suggest me a free tool just like Merch Informer and Place it ,because I am a student i have not such funds so pleaseeee!!!!❤

[@greywolf4784]

absolute thanks!🙌

[@33tjacob]

Game changer

[@GregGottfried]

🙌 If you run into any questions just let me know

[@caroldickinson9182]

I'm an artist who is thinking about starting print on demand. Would this work for uploading my original art work. Can this used with Etsy?

[@GregGottfried]

Yes absolutely!

[@therelaxingtime1492]

Hi Greg, just wondering to see one your shops that you sell print on demand tshirts.

[@GregGottfried]

Hey I actually stopped sharing my personal designs a couple years ago because they were copied like wild-fire when I did share them...I even had entire stores ripped off with fake social profiles and all.. Happy to point you in the right direction though 👍