How to stop all four LED indicators flashing at the same time

[@d-man2852]

3 years later...this video is one of the best videos on this subject matter. I've seen plenty, but you are the first to explain, diagram and demonstrate the solution to the problem. Great content!! Thank you, Sir.

[@keithjob]

Glad it was helpful!

[@allenmoretsky7756]

Thanks, Keith, 3 flasher modules, 1 week checking fuses switching wires around and finally checked out KZbin. I never would have suspected the indicator light. Made short work; cut the wire. Will look for a diode here in the US. Appreciate your video. - Allen Moretsky in Florida

[@petertorregrossa4447]

I've watched a bunch of these videos and yours is the first to actually show which wires to hook the resistors too. Everyone else just says hook them before the bulb and that's it with no more explanation of which wire to hook them to and what to do with the ground. Excellent, thanks.

[@JasonsCrypticchannel]

I just wanted to say thank you for the great video!!saved my life!! Helped me alot!! I have a 2020 500 excf that i got last summer(2022).. the guy changed the turn signals to LED and made a mess!! Cutting wires, no conector, just twisted the wires togheter with electrical tape... i fixed all that mess with the help of your video!! Good job! And i've watched a bunch of your video, very well done! It keeps me entertained during the long winter days here in Canada!!

[@telcobilly]

THANK YOU! I had the 4 way flash problem until I followed your tip of removing the indicator bulb. As you stated, two LEDs worked fine,but a little fast. I bought the LED flasher relay a few days ago which fixed the fast cadence. Today, I just reinstalled the front LED blinkers which have blue arrows facing the rider and amber facing out. At least with that, I do have an indicator for now. I will install the diodes so that I can get the indicator working again. Thanks again!

[@eliegipciaco]

This just save me from hours of going through wiring on my moped artwork switching to led headlights. You are a legend.

[@Thomas_496]

Best video to exist, mate and i were stuffed without this explanation

[@DodgyBagehot]

Great explanation. Currently planning an led signal upgrade on 70s bike. OEM set up on bike has no ground wires on signals, expects to get ground from plastic housing. So, decided I would upgrade to led and actually ground each signal using two wires from signal solution. Wanted to troubleshoot before I started, as I had heard about multiple issues. Many videos discuss the hyper flashing and all flashing problems, none explain and demonstrate solution as clearly. Yours is best description I have seen. I have led signals, electronic flasher to replace bimetallic OEM and premade diode harness being delivered. Will test it all attached to harness before removing incandescent system. Fingers crossed!

[@foskere]

if i skip the whole diode placing and just replace the bulb on the dash with an led (which is technically a diode), would that work? if it would it would be much simpler i guess, nice wellmade and informative video thought.

[@GeorgeDekock-de4lk]

Hi. I’m from South Africa and just bought a KTM 500 with 105 hours on. Previous owner fitted led indicators and is doing exactly like in your video. I’m not very good at electrical stuff, but lets hope I can fix this problem. We’re also planning on doing light adventure trips.

[@peteruphold7000]

Thanks, Pardner! I had the same issue when I put little LED turn signals on my 2024 DR650. I used 1Amp 1n4004 diodes, and they work splendidly! Much appreciated!

[@Ms.Carriage-b4e]

I put those exact diodes in and they still all blink

[@truthfox1844]

Wow! You just saved me 100s of hours. I would have never thought to take out the dash bulb! Thank you, good sir!

[@WALKERGUITAR]

how exactly do you get the indicator bulb out of the cluster? i cant figure it out

[@stevesteve8699]

Thanks so much. All 4 were flashing, took out indicator dash bulb and fixed it! Thanks again

[@Iam_Dart]

Thanks for the info it worked

[@heybruh3274]

Does it pass inspection like that?

[@duncannash4514]

buy an LED dash bulb fixes issue no cutting wires needed.

[@munter10]

@@duncannash4514 . . . not correct, I fitted a T5 LED dash bulb (wedge) thinking it would low enough in the resistance to solve the problem and it made zero difference, all 4 continued flashing so I was forced to do the Diode solution as outlined in this vid. Only then did I have all blinkers working correctl along with dash indicator bulb

[@Icanreadgood1]

@@duncannash4514 will this work really? Im having all 4 of my indicators blink together after switching to led lights. I have a honda shadow phantom what dash bulb would I need to fix this?

[@peterjones4163]

Hi Keith, Thanks for the video mate. Just installed Taco moto USA led blinkers. Had all 4 blinkers flashing together. You saved me from a headache trying to it work out. Your a legend. PJ

[@TDM8]

This helped so much. Instead of diodes I ended using one pair of resisters on the back indicators, solved the problem without chopping the wiring loom.

[@docjody8624]

Say you've switched all 4 Turn Signals to LEDs. Okay-- now, do you need a Resistor at each of the Turn Signals (i.e., do you need four Resistors), or how many? Thanks-- no one addresses this.

[@TDM8]

@docjody8624 I started with 1 resistor for each indicator and a standard relay and got high-speed flash. Then I got an LED relay and got all 4 flashing at once like hazard lights. Now I've got LED relay and 1 resistor on each rear indicator, everything is good now. 👍

[@docjody8624]

@@TDM8 Thank you sir for quick reply. To sum up, I need LED Flasher Relay (already installed) and one Resistor at each of the four Turn Signals (4 Resistors total), correct? You're a life saver.

[@TDM8]

@@docjody8624 I'm only using 2 resistors. Just on the rear.

[@tahirtalpur98]

​@@docjody8624no he said 1 pair of resistors, that is, 2 resistors for only the rear indicators, 1 for each

[@anirbanmandal942]

great video.... I got the blinkers working properly... however, the dash bulb is not working now..... is there an easy fix for that?

[@keithjob]

Either add the resistors like the vid, or get a LED dash bulb.

[@Syd_darkside]

Brillant video does only one know what bulbs the tell tell take ?

[@munter10]

Thank you so much . . I was able to fully understand the cicuit thanks to your comprehensive explanation Keith, good work! I used this knowledge to fit LED blinkers to my DRZ400 and sort the issue with the diode solution.

[@keithjob]

Glad it was helpful!

[@sonnijoshualynton9387]

I'm going through the same thing with my drz at the moment😂 hence why I'm watching this video

[@spqba747]

I have 2023 KTM 450 exc-f but I don't have dash light indicator. I still have the issue of all four led indicators flashing at the same time. how do I connect the diodes in this case?

[@devilsknight]

Just wondering what happens if you replace the bulb with led equivalent?

[@shyamsarkar5612]

I followed your instructions but the result on my motorcycle I got one side indicator indicates and other dose not but both side all four are blinking . What did I missed.

[@iulianigna6272]

Thank you very much! Should be more people like you. All the best!

[@stevesizman8606]

Awesome video. I followed these steps and indicators worked perfectly, the only thing I’ve noticed is the dash light now does not flash on and off but just stays on until I cancel it. Any thoughts ?

[@soumyabratapatra621]

Great sir .. you are the only one, who gives proper solution.

[@martinhub3737]

Hi and thanks. Is this what your solution is? Do I need to install on all four blinkers?

[@CraigGrendon]

+1 thankyou. I couldn't work out what was wrong until seeing this. Instead of cutting the wires, I just removed the globe on the dash blinker light, and all fixed.

[@Luke3043]

Wow i was sceptical of this working but it actually worked lol

[@kevjones5199]

This is awesome, just the video I needed & explained perfectly. I had fitted leds to my yamaha thunderace with an adjustable flasher & led on the dash. I couldn't figure out why one side worked OK but the other side didn't, so I flipped the polarity of the led in the dash & the opposite light worked. Checked the diagram (in the haynes book of lies) & I noticed both positive poles go to the bulb. So I tried a standard bulb & got the same result that you show in your video. Now everything makes sense, Ive just got to sorce the diodes. Thank you 😊 Ps: I also hate hacking up wiring the harness but needs must.

[@sirktm]

Kieth Duuude , your a Legend , this video saved my Sunday afternoon turning into a tool throwing episode 🫣😂😂 … You help me sort it in 10 minutes … The new led’s are working perfectly now … I enjoy your adventure videos a lot 👍 … Thanks Mate 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼

[@keithjob]

Very welcome

[@chrismanley5656]

You legend! Thanks so much, been pulling my hair out with a new to me bike trying to hunt down the mischief! I couldn’t figure it out!

[@mrclo9911]

What led flasher relay do we need for the exc ?

[@squigmcguigan8965]

Would a led bulb not fix the warning light problem? Or must i use diodes?

[@rostang50]

I did try pulling the buld and that didn't work so on to the diod

[@Aengen]

I think your channel is sublime! Since I started watching I’ve now sold my T7 and bought a 2021 exc-f 500! And I am so happy I made the switch!!! Your videos are such a great source of information and tips for my work with transforming the 500 into my unicorn. Do you know what would happen if one simply replaced the bulb with an aftermarket LED one. Would that work too? Probably not, but I thought I could ask anyway! Keep up the great and informative videos. Cheers from Sweden!

[@Ms.Carriage-b4e]

I put the diode in exactly like the vid but i still have both of my blinkers flashing. I dont have the rear lights on would that be a problem?

[@davecarter34]

Thank Keith just upgraded the husaberg FE501 2013 and the dash light was working intermittently so all flash then normal did my head in, the leds i brought had there own intergrated circuit so only needed 12 volt, thus a bridged the 2 wires to the flasher

[@SaliBoi68]

Hi Keith, thanks for the informative video. Thought you may be able to assist. I own a 2009 Triumph Speedy and have replaced all 4 indicatorts with OEM Triumph scroll LED's & changed the relay as advised by Triumph. However, the front indicators only intermittently fail to fully complete a scroll. Any thoughts? Will the diodes remedy the issue? Kind Regards Sal

[@richwilson3826]

Great Video ! Just followed this and Bingo ! LEDs all working perfectly now, problem I had was all 4 flashing.

[@nileshmourya43]

Sir can we solve this via disconnecting dashboard light ?

[@JackRiverD]

Hey Keith, I have a question. If the dash indicator globe is causing resistance because it is incandescent, then what if you also replace that globe with an LED?? Or do I have the wrong end of the stick?

[@funefulla1]

Solved my problem with this helpful information! Thank you!!!

[@aan5393]

Thank you for video Sir Why 2 diot not one? Cheers

[@adjbob56]

If the 4 flash at once problem is caused by single dash indicator light - and does not happen with the 2 dash indicator light models - can I just convert the vintage single dash indicator to a pair of them rather than the diodes to stock dash indicator bulb?

[@sufferingbanana]

An incredibly helpful video, thank you saved me a lot of headscratching

[@duncannash4514]

EVEN MORE SIMPLE SOLUTION !!!!!! change the dash bulb for an LED one. available on amazon next day £6 pack of ten. works the same as your diode repair but quicker easier cheaper. done it on mine.

[@duncannash4514]

www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0899YTC6G?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_dt_b_product_details

[@narnialord3940]

Wow just saw that I changed the dash bulb and now it works thank you

[@tomcarroll9478]

Can you provide a link to the proper led dash bulb?​@@narnialord3940

[@mototrailz]

can you tell me which type of LED on amazon works for KTM EXC please for the indicators as you mentioned. I would really appreciate it 🙏

[@tahirtalpur98]

​​@@narnialord3940do you have a single dash indicator? And just installing an LED in dash indicator stopped all 4 blinkers from flashing together?

[@dazzme7972]

Hey mate love the content you provide had the chance to get the diodes today soldered up as explainer worked a treat awesome job !!!!!!

[@keithjob]

Great to hear!

[@dad5718]

Your videos are the best....could you tell me please the rear indicator and where you got them from please from steve Belgrave

[@richardantonykoit4586]

Will putting a led flasher instead of the bulb that shows your indicstors indicating fix it?

[@keithjob]

I believe so but have not tried that.

[@richardantonykoit4586]

@@keithjob ok

[@nicerumble]

Great video Keith. What size wires are you using to build the harness?

[@ajithsingh2740]

I just tried this and fixed it. Thank a lot 😀 at first i did not want to cut the wires because the bike is under warranty. But it really turned out great

[@LauriMajamaa]

Thank you! Had this problem that all leds flash. Fixed it! THANK YOU!! ❤

[@keithjob]

You're welcome!

[@Smithy_Buttons]

Quick question... would an LED indicator, instead of a regular bulb provide a fix without having to cut up your loom? Genuine question, as my GS500f is doing the same thing.

[@Smithy_Buttons]

To reiterate, I mean the dash indicator.

[@keithjob]

I believe so, but never tried it myself

[@andybishop82]

Where is from the rear indicator? Do you have link?

[@keithjob]

Some cheapy thing from ebay. Search for "flush mount motorcycle indicators"

[@benjaminzoo]

Hi Keith Thanks for the video .. Could you please tell me which diodes to use as I’m making my own kit ..: Kind Regards Ben

[@keithjob]

The diode I used is a 1N5408, which is a 3A diode. I doubt you need 3A for indicators (1A would be ample) but these are what I had lying around.

[@mrgreen6301]

could you not simply replace the dash indicator bulb with an led?

[@daswirdschon1400]

Yes, you can. My friend bought his EXC and it had a small PCB with LEDs instead of the KTM bulb. But i dont know where to get it.

[@danguy2009]

Then the dash would only light for one direction. the way this system is wired each positive lead off the bulb is connector to a terminal of the dash bulb. when you indicate left the original filament bulbs will send power to one terminal of the dash bulb and it will light up, the other terminal of the bulb is earthing through the right indicator. when you indicate right the left is being used as the earth.. Filament bulbs will light with reversed polarity, leds dont.

[@richwilson3826]

Great Video ! Sorry for asking what might seem a silly question - so I only need to put the diodes coming off 1 indicator to stop both sides working simultaneously?

[@keithjob]

I would think one diode per indicator. That's what I did.

[@Thatsald]

Hi mate can you do a how 2 on your rear number plate holder. I like your slim line indicators the exhaust can melt the rhs one

[@keithjob]

Well that was easy .. 😉 kzbin.info/www/bejne/honXe6puht6Sh5I

[@advmax]

Thanks Keith, just helped me solve this problem. Awesome channel mate.

[@keithjob]

You're welcome!

[@cladysjuncastro1857]

Can i buy diodes in any motorshop?

[@youtuberek]

1N400x 1A not better ?

[@aztec_rider1]

Best instructional videos so far 👍

[@Butterfly07949]

When you say globe are you taking about the indicator globe or the dash globe as that wiring diagram as a little confusing without this clarification!

[@keithjob]

dash globe

[@garyallan4483]

Hi Keith, for a KTM 501exc or even a Husaberg 570 do you still need to add resistors to the blinkers (front & rear)or do you simply have to add diodes to the blinker dash light to get the leds to work properly? Does the KTM exc range come with led blinkers from the factory to start with?

[@edmondvanas2710]

The resistors are not needed in this case, because the flasher unit is swapped. (1:13 in the video)

[@dad5718]

Hi bloke my mistake I went home and tried the indicators and the front globe ones are flashing and doing so fast and the rears not at all...and thanks for your time the other day

[@keithjob]

shouldn't be too hard to figure it out.. lemme know if you need a hand

[@scottmclucas5374]

Hey mate great video i have added diodes, the dash indicator doesnt flash just stays solid do i need led bulb as well

[@keithjob]

no, the diode does away with a need for LED globe. Maybe something wired up incorrectly? Recheck!

[@scottmclucas5374]

@@keithjob oh i have 3 amp diodes. To big ?

[@keithjob]

@@scottmclucas5374 that's what I use so should be right. Are they around the right way? silver ring on the diode closest to the bulb? watch the video from about the 05:00 mark and check your wiring

[@scottmclucas5374]

@@keithjob wiring is 100% , i dont have the original bulb but one same size i will try a different bulb incase something funky is going on

[@lhon353]

What kind of diode will be use and how many amps.?

[@evanheffley1625]

I am having the opposite problem, 2019 KTM SMCr, I installed Zeta hanguards with LED indicators, and after install they do not light at all. I know the leds work because I can put 12v to them from the battery and they light. Plugging in (I don't like hacking factory plugs either) the old incandescence turn signals, they will work, so I know there is voltage from the bike. My indicator on the dash does work, with incandescent lights, the led lights, or no lights plugged in. The smcr is turn signal only, no running lights. I have the LED flasher relay but no change. I'm stumped.

[@volvogt21]

Polarity issue is my guess

[@cookieuk1278]

Thanks for the video. (Low elec. knowledge question coming!!) So, are you just making one of these diode circuits (as per your diagram) for your dash indicator warning light? Not for each of the 4 indicators? My dash one (on Triumph Daytona 1998) has 2 wires coming out of it (happen to be green and green/white) one for left, one for right - so no (normally black) earth? Presumably this circuit won't work on it?

[@keithjob]

Correct, this circuit is just for the dash indicator. Those two wires on your indicator are "probably" pos and neg... just different colours. Check with a multimeter if you can.

[@cookieuk1278]

@@keithjob Thanks mate - all sorted! Cheers

[@brendon8702]

What wire gauge did you use?

[@bradydavis9178]

Hey Keith, what do you reckon if I got led front blinkers blinking and the rear led blinkers are only turning on and not blinking. After some more trouble shooting I plugged in both rear blinkers to test out some theorys and now my 10 amp fuse is blowing when I turn my blinkers on. The indicator bulb is unplugged for now, and all connections are made with the factory KTM plugs. I have a led flasher installed.

[@adrianhafslundfrostrud5361]

Cant you just replace the indicator light with a LED bulb to reduce the resistance?

[@keithjob]

Most likely yes.... but I haven't tried it

[@adrianhafslundfrostrud5361]

@@keithjob I tried today, it works fine :)

[@Syd_darkside]

​@adrianhafslundfrostrud5361 what bulb did you use in the indercator light can't for the life of me work out what one it is

[@adrianhafslundfrostrud5361]

@@Syd_darkside For my 1998 Yamaha YZF600R i used 5W5 LED bulb

[@AZ-qn3xq]

Awesome! I just faced that problem !!! Thank you!

[@dickisinya8261]

Does it matter what side you ground out

[@keithjob]

Probably not, but I don't know for certain.

[@gav7024]

Thanks mate, just saved me hours of frustration 👍

[@GavsGutters]

bought led indicators for my gs500 wired them up and they all flash when i turn left or right, so i take it if i do that for both sides like your video it will work properly ? as in wire in the resisters and ground the earth both sides.. thanks in advance, any help is much apreciated. and great video tutorial.

[@keithjob]

yep!

[@raymondfoster8773]

Your a genius, stopped me going crazy, thanks.

[@keithjob]

No problem 👍

[@husky5]

I bought led flasher and my blinkers still blink fast help please

[@keithjob]

Did you wire in the diode as per the video?

[@husky5]

@@keithjob i took the dash indicator light out so all four blinkers stop blinking at the same time and it worked so only the chosen site was blinking and i bought a led flasher but it was the same it was blinking the same as original flasher. It something wrong with flasher or what?

[@cubeyt5058]

this didnt fix it for me give me tips please

[@allenthompson3171]

All works..but Front runners do not. If I hook up front runners as per specs- then rear turns are Permanente on with rear runners. 2010 Honda Phantom.

[@stus_500]

Gday Keith. Was your flasher a 2 pin?

[@keithjob]

Pretty sure it was, yes.

[@stus_500]

@@keithjob thanks mate!

[@tobybrickwoodfiggins]

Hi mate where did you order your ims tank from ?? Thanks

[@keithjob]

www.adventuremoto.com.au/ims-products-ktm-17-liter-fuel-tank I doubt they hold many in stock.. mine was back ordered and took a couple of months.

[@tobybrickwoodfiggins]

@@keithjob thanks

[@scottrichmond2144]

what is the name of the flasher unit that you used

[@keithjob]

It was some no-name unit from ebay. Just search on KTM LED flasher. 2 pin I think.

[@waynehumphrys1160]

Hi Keith Thanks for the videos I've got some JST's on order just wondering if you solder your JST's terminals or just crimp them. Do you think crimping is good enough for the bike? Thanks Wayne.

[@keithjob]

I solder them. Maybe if you had a proper crimping tool that would be better? Not sure.

[@TheTT124564]

Soldering is better u can use a special tool for crimping those

[@duncannash4514]

@@keithjob just change the dash bulb for an LED one (light emitting diode) same fix adding a diode but no cutting wires needed, does the job. www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0899YTC6G?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_dt_b_product_details

[@perchristensen9756]

@@duncannash4514 No, a T5 socket is needed.

[@TheTT124564]

What if instead of using diodes (2 of them) can u use 1 LED which is a diode?

[@keithjob]

No idea...

[@dontfeedthedirt]

Worked on my 2007 KLR650. Thanks man!

[@andrewdurrant8465]

worked on my 1995 dr650 se thank you .

[@mykolasciganas5265]

Thank you 😅 your video saved me a lot of money 💵😉

[@pgm7035]

Love your style with the blinkers Keith. Have you had any issues with rego inspection passes?

[@keithjob]

We don't have annual inspections in Vic, so all good! When I sell the bike I'll put the OEM ones back on.

[@sahbazz591]

Thanky you for this video. It's exactly what I neededt to hear/see.

[@nicholasnel3029]

knew all that but to ground bulb wire, why did I not think of that! scratched my head all day! ta

[@sebastianop.3052]

Thanks a lotI had the problems with the 4 lights like hazard now solv it.

[@keithjob]

You're welcome!

[@robinsonmorel3294]

Thank you so much. This is very helpful video.

[@mt1885]

AWESOME bike just got LED turn signals as well!

[@quintonheydenrych9263]

Great help! Thank you

[@jb26]

Cheers Keith you made this too easy.

[@keithjob]

Glad you found it useful!

[@danguy2009]

Another way of doing it is to replace the 2 pin relay with a 3 pin relay and give the circuit a dedicated earth. then each indicator doesn't try to earth though the opposite side.

[@brendon8702]

Hey, I got new indicators off ebay and they arnt working. Do you think my regulator/recitifier is casuing the issue? I used a multimeter and it showed no resistance doing all combinations. The old LED indicators I have work, the standard KTM indicators work until I rev then they fade out. The horn is very quiet. I had wire my indicator light with diodes like this video, I also have the exact same LED indicator relay he has. kzbin.info/www/bejne/foDXZ3Z8f7lpodE Heres a video showing the indicators are working fine off car battery, but when I hold them on the bikes wiring they don't. Except for the old LED, they still work for some reason.

[@markrumble8188]

Thankyou , thankyou ,thankyou great indept video helped me do mine perfectly.

[@dazasakigarage]

Fantastic worked a treat on my FZR1000 👍

[@jdpol]

Cheers mate. Helpful 👍

[@HDSupermoto]

Genius!!!