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@God-T Жыл бұрын
Hi Tyler just wanted to say your video was amazing and it would be really Cool if you could make Us more story-circle videos like as a visual-aid. I'd love to see you making more of these videos! 😁
@nehemiahjordan37752 жыл бұрын
This video was very helpful to me. Instead of being perfectionist, I'm wanting to move towards more of a flow in my writing and understanding that as I work on each element and part of my story, other parts will begin to come together. It's very easy for me to get stuck on one part and not move forward until I've solved it, as if it's in a vacuum. Thanks!
@ZackBellGames2 жыл бұрын
This is one of your best vids yet, T. I have been in the never-ending, "outline forever" phase. I have been in the phase where you Google and KZbin every structure template and Sorkin pro-tip before actually starting something. I have tracked down every book that claims that all the other books are garbage. I have analyzed and over-analyzed myself until I am more worried about not being ready or perfect yet and never actually getting to the blank page. Your advice about ignoring the outliers and just PRACTICING basic storytelling again and again is absolutely PROFOUND. Creating a body of work is insanely overrated. Every writer thinks their first script needs to be their A Few Good Men. IT. WON'T. BE...And that is totally ok~
@TheGeorgeD132 жыл бұрын
A Few Good Men was also not even remotely Aaron Sorkin's first script. He wrote several plays and screenplays before that. That's how you get to that level.
@twitte982 жыл бұрын
Thanks man. Appreciate the communication. Real great.
@uglystupidloser Жыл бұрын
well, you were probably too scared to start. so you kept looking for someone to tell you what to do. i think most people could relate to that. my question would be: if you didn't have all these tips... what would you want to say? and a story, i think, is just a platform for people to give a voice to... what's on their mind and what they have to say about it. i think we are also scared on being judged. it is a matter of self esteem. our identity is potentially challenged or threatened as we may fail, be ridiculed, rejected, etc. especially when we are trying to be vulnerable and bringing our social guards down to tell a story. an enormous amount of effort can be crushed under the weight of it. i think we all realize that, even if we can't quite put our finger on what the reasons might be. but i also like to look at storytelling like cooking. it doesn't have to be michelin. it doesn't have to be novel. it doesn't have to be perfect. it doesn't have to be something that everyone likes. and it doesn't have to be something that you have to even offer to anybody. it can just be for yourself. for the love of the craft. and, maybe, one day, others will try your cooking and think it could use a few tweaks or it isn't to their taste... but i bet you can cook a lot better than most people by that point. and you can start chasing sorkin or whoever once you have are stronger and more confident. i saw a comment recently on shaelinwrites... they were quoting something along the lines of: a writer doesn't learn to write novels. they learned to write the last novel. and now they are learning how to write their newest novel... it is a seemingly never ending process of discovery.
@GuineaPigEveryday Жыл бұрын
I think i get ur point but you said 'every writer thinks their first scripts needs to be their A Few Good Men' but then also say 'creating a body of work overrated'. Isn't that the point of what you're saying? That you need to build up a body of work, bad or good, then you can get your A Few Good Men?
@themelancholyofgay3543 Жыл бұрын
same
@peaceandloveusa66562 жыл бұрын
I have come across this wheel many times. I understood roughly how to apply it to my story before, but drawing the lines and walking us through how each of them connect to one another really helped it click in my brain. It is no longer, "look at the chart if I get stuck," but rather a flow I just naturally end up with when writing. I wanted to come back to this video and thank you for helping the concept click in my brain. It has been a big help!
@Nkanyiso_K2 жыл бұрын
This really came at the right time for me because and help me finally sit down and outline my short film. It'll be my first short in 10 years & I want it to encapsulate the lessons I've learned. So up till now I've been very in my head thinking about the Crew, Equipment, location but now that I've started it's intoxicating (I love making Short films) 🇿🇦
@Alex-cz9kt2 жыл бұрын
You explain this better than a lot of my teachers at my film college. My short film screenwriting teacher hasn't even gone over story structure like this XD. You are a godsend, thank you for the amazing free recourses!
@madebyange2 жыл бұрын
You, sir, are a wise and giving man. Thank you for your breakdowns!!!
@Vakama162 жыл бұрын
Hey Tyler, just wanted to let you know that you're an incredible human being creating and releasing these videos, it's such an invaluable resource.
@TomEyeTheSFMguy2 жыл бұрын
I always thought point two was the inciting incident (that would make them want something), and point three was when they decided to cross the threshold into the unfamiliar situation.
@sonnov02 жыл бұрын
Hey again, dude!
@TomEyeTheSFMguy2 жыл бұрын
@@sonnov0 hey.
@S3aChange2 жыл бұрын
I was half way through writing the same thing when I thought I'd better check the comments. I agree. Walter White's want to get money via meth doesn't exist without the inciting incident of the cancer diagnosis. Same with Matt Damon's character getting stuck on Mars, which creates his want to return home. Maybe the "want" on this diagram would be better labelled as the inciting incident?
@mrkshply2 жыл бұрын
@@S3aChange I think that is an irrelevant question and I hope that doesn't sound condescending. From my understanding I would say the Want is whatever the character wants given the context. It can be born from the inciting incident, and the inciting incident can be born from the want. Or not. If a character wants to go on a road trip for "new experiences" and then they find a monster, the want causes the inciting incident but the inciting incident is also the Get and the Pay. They have to come to terms with the fact that monsters exist and that they are in danger. That's the Adapt but it came after the Get and the Pay. Most of the story they now just want to survive and they get that because they don't die but they have to suffer through monster attacks. Maybe their friends die. And then in the second half their Want becomes to kill the monster instead of just survive and escape. That's kind of an Adapt and the Return. Then they Get the monster to fall for their traps but it doesn't work how they expected (Pay), they then Adapt to the failing plan, finally kill the monster (Get) having then suffered in the process (Pay) and once the monster is dead they Return home but traumatized (Changed). You don't need to follow the circle around, just understand to incorporate them at every step. That's why he wants you to go write because then you can see where your stories fall flat. That's when you look at the wheel and ask "what element am I not using?" So my advice is to go write something bad and then figure out where you need to incorporate one of the circle elements. Does that make sense?
@dozer_memelord80926 ай бұрын
The Inciting Incident FORCES the Protagonist in an Unfamiliar Situation
@Bailey-eb4tr2 жыл бұрын
I know his channel is about shoes and movies but his videos have been so helpful with the book I'm writing thank you!
@WW_Studios2 жыл бұрын
As I was just about to start writing, this comes at a great time :) thanks.
@Rejoice16312 жыл бұрын
So, as in your example using the Martian, he goes from 3, "Unfamiliar Situation", then to 4, "Adapt", then he proceeds to 5, the "Get", but then, because of another "Unfamiliar Situation" (the habitat explodes), he has to go back through number 4 again. Then, using this, you can "jump around" to a certain extent, and go through various steps along the way? And, you can then add nuances to the story, and the Character(s) within the story, to make it have more depth, convolutions, and Character.
@kaboart2 жыл бұрын
7:30 Sooo true!
@alwayspositive9992 жыл бұрын
Awesome video- very nicely explained- would be nice to have a video where you talk about how you present flashbacks in a script- to relate to what happened in the past etc.to move the story forward- Pros and cons of flashbacks. thanks
@lovettuduebor19022 жыл бұрын
This is better than film school or screenplay class. Vet good video.
@lovettuduebor19022 жыл бұрын
This is better than film school or screenplay class. Very good video.
@samonamission_2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this clarification! 👍Nice to call it a 'check' or 'tool' for story momentum. That makes it easier to use. I always struggled with the story circle because my brain tries to read it as an even timeline. But if point 7 is all of act 3...? Wow, big relief. The word 'take' was distracting for me. If that would be the climax, the timeline would be very off. And the wrapping up part would take forever. 🤣 So, I'll just stop seeing it as a timeline. And just use it to check for a logical cause-effect flow.
@brendarice-davis97952 жыл бұрын
great.. resolution to what was confusing for so long....thanks😊
@bradweiergallery2 жыл бұрын
Your video is one of the best for understanding the basic Idea and this helps me greatly! Much appreciated! Thank you!
@we.visuals2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video. This helped me as I begin to put emphasis on story telling. Thanks!
@elinapiller33132 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your videos, they help me to see my mistakes. Your are always the BEST!!!
@mrkshply2 жыл бұрын
"you ask about exceptions when you haven't done a lick of work" 😂🤣 love that line. Is true. Go make bad art and then we can talk. Would it be helpful to study a film-maker who hates structure to show how he still uses structural elements in their movies? I was doing this with kill Bill the other day. Was pretty fun
@christophereric14072 жыл бұрын
New subscriber, sticking toe into the idea of a mockumentary, low production, self-shot KZbin sitcom about guys [deleted]. Need to make eight part story structure work in parallel on an episode, season, and overall series level. Thank you for your ideas in this video and many others.
@haiderschlage2 жыл бұрын
You're a great, learn a lot from your knowledge, thank you very much
@arcaces2206 Жыл бұрын
Ok. So don't focus on one of the ideas if you didn't get it right. Go back to the start and find the flow through the ideas, so you don't get confused. If you feel like the adapt part or "rising action" didn't feel right, go back to the previous one which is want and you can how the rising action part isn't just oOoOO obstacles, it's obstacles in pursuit of the want and then you can go to the next story beat which is... Oh they finally got it (or at least have a clear plan with really no obstacles) then boom twist or a unexpected big problem, then they make a choice... And blahdeblahdeblah, hope you get the point of these parts are not their own individual part.
@anthonywritesfantasy10 ай бұрын
I love that term - Story Momentum.
@whitrobinson Жыл бұрын
So helpful! Thank you!
@QazwerDave2 жыл бұрын
What software / hardware are you using to write and draw the story circle here ?!?!
@raulpierri Жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot for your channel, it's very helpful to me. Greetings from Uruguay.
@oesssolar76942 жыл бұрын
thank you
@pursiii63452 жыл бұрын
awesome video!
@afungfegeevita5320 Жыл бұрын
This was so helpful thank you ❤
@lovealways729 Жыл бұрын
thanks so much this really really helped!!
@harryom34972 жыл бұрын
Thanks man
@plasticstraw86502 жыл бұрын
Very useful
@stevenvprasad50292 жыл бұрын
Appreciated Tyler..much love 💕💕
@detoxwithp-talksofficial6868 Жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot! This video was of great help!
@uglystupidloser Жыл бұрын
you know would probably help you feeling less frustrated with difficult clients? have them choose a tv episode, and go over the story circle together. it's not magically getting a script to materialize for them. but you would probably bamd your head against a wall far less.
@gruenjapfaelzer96282 жыл бұрын
I am sorry to bug you with this question and I am sure many people have probably paid for the answer. But can the structure wheel be applied to novels? An do the rules for scenes( dialogue as well) apply in novels? Are novels needing to be perpetually driven forward like scripts? Thank you for your time! And thank you for your videos!
@mewtwo32917 ай бұрын
So does this mean, that every aspect of the story circle does not need to be utilized when it comes to applying it to a scene? What is the minimum number of those eight points that could be used, and still provide structure for a faster/snappier scene?
@themelancholyofgay3543 Жыл бұрын
It's mildy harsh, but he's right. I haven't done anything right yet
@gagarin82594 ай бұрын
is the same structure about a tv show? In each episode has to do this circle?
@tashg9343 Жыл бұрын
I just wrote my first script and I freestyle it. I have producers interested…. Just write what you want to see on the screen but be real and honest w yourself. I’ll start a teaching courses soon…..
@greenstreamsstudio5082 жыл бұрын
Should this be approached any different for slice-of-life, coming-of-age, or character study genres? I guess these are genres heavy on the philosophical conflict. They are generally small stories and are genres not often spoken about. How do you write a small story which is still entertaining and engaging. I've read "You Can Count On Me" by Kenneth Lonergan and when looking up these genres found the screenplay for "Manchester By The Sea" by the same writer (will probably read that this weekend). What is too much or too little conflict/obstacles in this genre when intending to write a simple story but not an non-entertaining or engaging one?
@johnoros2484 Жыл бұрын
In this structure, where does the NEED of the character come in?
@gianthills Жыл бұрын
What are your credits?
@rameshnpatel40012 жыл бұрын
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@ramukuraku88022 жыл бұрын
Explain today tool ....
@tashg9343 Жыл бұрын
I just wrote my first script and I freestyle it. I have producers interested…. Just write what you want to see on the screen but be real and honest w yourself. I’ll start a teaching courses soon…..