How to Stop Welding Distortion and Warpage

[@5thStreetFab]

Hey guys I forgot to mention that if the plate it's welded to sucks up, then it'll give you a false reading on the square.

[@johnnygregersen5528]

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[@FrustratedBaboon]

You have the best explanation and videos on KZbin!! Great work!!

[@phillypauly]

this series is extremely helpful to a newbie hack like me - Thanks (I think they are properly paced and your explanations are clear)

[@5thStreetFab]

thank you that's what I was hoping for!

[@MatthewScott]

Small flat head works good to stick under and pry it with. More accurate than a hammer and less likely to break the tack. Great video!

[@5thStreetFab]

Great idea bud! And thank you!

[@denttech2515]

Really nice-looking welds. Some of the best I've seen. Respect. Thanks for sharing

[@clintcowles7563]

Thank you man. You are easy to listen to and pretty thorough with your explanations. Have you ever considered teaching? Teaching the trade that is. Whatever you do, I'm thinking you will do well. Again, thank you.

[@Kevin.L_]

This is the first video of yours I've seen and I subscribed. You summed up so much about distortion and using it properly so quickly. I'll be checking out your other videos soon.

[@Goalsplus]

Thanks. Great information. I've watched many others who have totally missed sharing this knowledge. I thought it was just my drop saw that didn't cut true. So thanks for mentioning that little bit of information too.

[@KatyLynnWinery]

YOU GOT MY ATTENTION WITH THE MUSIC AT BEGINNING...BLASTED MY HEAD SET.. GREAT TEACHER

[@stn7172]

Nice what type of square is that?

[@harshambaliya8649]

Sir i want to weld ss316L 1mm thickness coil an🎉d make a belt out of it.when i tried tig welding with argon gas and tungsten grinder my coil got destorted and warped around the joint.Have made very little use of filler metal and kept meter reading at 45 ampml.Request you to suggest a suitable solution

[@buildalifeworthliving4551]

That square is so badass, where do I get one? Thanks for all the knowledge truly appreciate it

[@djdanzy]

Hey man have you cut a notch in that speed square to measure the angle Because the weld gets in the way? Can you do a video on it

[@slaphappyduplenty2436]

You lift the gun instantly after you finish. Shouldn’t you “wash” the weld with argon for a few seconds after you stop welding? Or is that just for tig?

[@desgracado]

Just for tig

[@jkgkjgkijk]

Bravo! Extremely informative

[@jamesitube]

Very informative, thanks! Are there any differences between mig and tig here?

[@tabs123456]

Hey there, what size mig wire you running in this video?

[@mikenetherlin1209]

Keep it coming,you are doing a great job.

[@itonjoans354]

Good video series, if you stick with it, this channel is going to grow pretty fast.

[@5thStreetFab]

Thank you and thanks for watching!

[@factsonly8673]

Thanks man , really great instructional video, learned a lot, new subscriber.

[@alfredgreen8894]

You've got that "mig like tig look" down , very nice work and thanks for all the helpful videos, but if you don't mind sharing , how are you achieving that pulse , is it your machine or a technique you have mastered(I'm hoping for the latter)?! Thanks again!

[@5thStreetFab]

hey thanks for watching I really appreciate it! Its mostly just settings on your machine, any machine will do it. I made a video a while back showing how to do it. Ive been wanting to make a new video with how to set up the machine without a chart and some cut and etching. heres the link to that video. kzbin.info/www/bejne/sHy4qoObbdJkj5o

[@cognitor900]

Just rewatched this video for some more inspiration and was watching the section where you talked about slicing off a section of your squares to let the squares get up to the surface to measure...... have you seen Fireball Tools squares? They are gobsmacking clever and it’s amazing that it’s, what....250 years since the heyday of the Industrial Revolution and Jason has come along and come up with some of the greatest squares to work with on fabrication. I just wish that I was as rich as I used to think I was (being retired) and I would shout for a couple of them for you. Please go check him out on KZbin as probably “Fireball Tools square”! And no, I’m not sponsored by them etc. But I do love putting talented people to talented products and ideas. That helps all of us from the woebegone amateurs like me to highly competent professionals like you. Cheers and greetings from the south western side of Australia.

[@5thStreetFab]

Thanks bud! And ya Jason is amazing! I love all his stuff. I haven't bought one yet but I get back into more industrial stuff I'm definitely gonna buy some! Thanks again for looking out for me bud!

[@trailerpark187]

Also if your welding tube, always weld outside corner. Then then butt welds away from the onside corner. Lastly, weld the fillet

[@5thStreetFab]

yes exactly! I started to weld 45ed square tubing to show that but this one was already way to long. Thanks bud!

[@jimtaylor248]

Great discussion on distortion. Best I've seen. Thanks.

[@5thStreetFab]

James Taylor thank you I appreciate it

[@teogenisculminas1028]

Nice video bro

[@johnprice1105]

Have you any videos showing the movement of your mig gun without actually welding i know there's e and c travel but i seem to be making to large of a movement eg if my welds took properly you'd see them from your town, got to say it seems like you started welding from you crib good vid and i have to have a go at rocking the gun to tac weld probably blow through, cheers

[@ttoy3603]

Great information thank you also wish I could weld as good as you did in 17 great job

[@SOLDOZER]

What was the reason for the wire shim?

[@5thStreetFab]

+BBQ Sandwich the wire puts a backbend in the base plate so that when you weld it and it sucks the base plate up it'll bring it back to square.

[@sida9908]

On a square which you've tacked in 4 places u won't see much of a distortion. The most amount of distortion is happening for the underneath plate as u said. It was better to show distortion on two thin plates getting welded in a T or flat position

[@loganlopez3185]

I will be playing with the pulse mig feature on my everlast welder. I am curious to see how much feature reduces warpage.

[@andrewsesterhenn3179]

Thanks for the good tips bro!

[@theflyinggearman3128]

Very good Information. I appreciate it!

[@elgordo8784]

Dude,you're the best!

[@5thStreetFab]

Du De no problem bud! I hope it helps. Just let me know if there's anything else you want to learn.

[@linctexpilot8337]

In lieu-of beveled edges, use little pieces of scrap welding rod to space the tube up off the plate. You can move the bits around to get it lined up. Filling the gap makes a MUCH stronger weld.

[@melgross]

I like to use a small screwdriver/prybar. The type meant to lift small nails and pins. It’s thin enough to just sneak into that tiny gap, and allow me to lift carefully.

[@5thStreetFab]

ill have to check those out!

[@youssefel-kadri292]

Hi, your channel have a Nice content, I really like It, but your áudio is só low that makes It almost Impossible to understand. Please fix this issue.

[@drickard67]

Good info... Well presented!

[@txsviking]

Great video! 👍👍🍻

[@5thStreetFab]

txsviking thanks Terry!

[@konigvonpreuen8065]

Tons of great info in your videos!

[@thatguythatdoesstuff7448]

So the piece of wire under the plate was to compensate for how much the weld bead would pull the plate axially upward?

[@5thStreetFab]

Theball Player exactly. And the more pieces you're welding on one side, or the larger the weld, the more you'd need to compensate.

[@thatguythatdoesstuff7448]

5th Street Fab Shop I've never seen anyone do that. Clever thinking ahead. Thanks.

[@ryanlewis9599]

Great hints. I will take these into consideration next time I have my powerimig out.

[@joshuapoche5137]

When you mig weld do you have a problem seeing the puddle? I find it hard to see the puddle cause of the nozzel unless i put my head right up to the torch. I dont like being that close so most of the time i just focus on the nozzel and the welds come out fairly decent but could be better of i saw the puddle.

[@5thStreetFab]

Joshua Poche I like to be as close as possible. I don't like guessing. I need to see the puddle wetting in. If you're having trouble seeing it either try to get in front and close up or put more of an angle on the gun. Thanks for watching and I hope this helps.

[@mitchdenner9743]

Try pulling instead of pushing, i bet you push, i can't see when pushing either. If you cannot see the puddle you can't weld. Braille welding doesn't fly.

[@shhhdontshout]

My left ear said thanks for your advice.

[@5thStreetFab]

Haha phones are not the best to record on!

[@mattanderson4964]

I'm going to remember everything you say for the next time I've got my everlast welder out.

[@jordanshoultes7814]

Dude get mic. I can't hear ya at all.great and informative tho.thanks for sharing your knowledge.

[@jasonlessard2373]

I use ear buds, he’s only on one side.

[@mustafaar7899]

Good job great work

[@rachelbenzema7822]

thanks mate.

[@workwillfreeyou]

Great job.

[@milesgreer1534]

What size wire are you running?

[@5thStreetFab]

Miles Greer .030 70rs6

[@milesgreer1534]

Thanks.

[@Skitad]

Nice ! Thank you very much

[@5thStreetFab]

No problem!

[@josephhustead749]

I like those gloves. miller? can you post the name or part number of them please....thank you. Your videos are really good!

[@5thStreetFab]

Ya they're miller I'll try to find them if I still have them. I remember them being about 30 or 40 bucks though!

[@alt-w7130]

Good information, but no video you have to make sure it have no obstruction in your came view when you explaining you projects

[@drlightman5848]

My friend, the audio is awful... Please do something!

[@jasons.2082]

U can bolt another plate to that plate also

[@raydouglas708]

Hey dude , to stop distortion how about not running a 8 - 10mm fillet on parts that are what 4mm thick !!!!??? Fillet size is only the size of the thinnest part being joined !!

[@5thStreetFab]

Not with this technique. It needs a much bigger weld size. If I was running normal MIG welds then yes.

[@tonythomas951]

Clip your wire. Im going to try that because it sounds really smart. I hate when the arc doesnt get going nicely when your trying to hold stuff where it needs to be. I think that will help at that critical moment right before I start talking to Jesus and chucking tools cuz the arc doesnt start and the wire pushes everything outta wack.

[@5thStreetFab]

Ya it's annoying especially when it throws off your tack!

[@Rprecision]

Interesting content. Your audio is super low

[@5thStreetFab]

R precision thanks I'm going to try to pick up a mic soon. Anyone know of any good ones for a decent price let me know. Thank you.

[@jabram9]

Great videos but you should wear a mic or get a bigger mic on your camera \

[@PM17E5]

Is that an Everlast TIG in the background? How do you like it? I've had the HTP Invertig 221 for years, but the Everlast machines seem interesting.

[@5thStreetFab]

No it's one of there migs. I've always wanted the invertig 221 how is it?!

[@PM17E5]

Oh cool. It's not bad, I haven't actually ever dug into the features too much. I need to sit down and play around with them again someday. Mostly because it just works so nicely out of the box. I usually do aluminum at 120hz and have no trouble with dirty castings or uncleaned/unprepped aluminum. Something I could never do with my crappy old Lincoln Pro Square Wave 175 or whatever it was. I've taken my Invertig apart and thrown away the case and made my own, to slide into a military surplus rackmount case by ECS I got really cheap off of eBay. I had enough room left over to add a Procon pump, a copper (computer water cooler) radiator, pressure regulator, coolant filter, pressure gauge, and reservoir tank into the whole setup. It's now very compact and easy to move around for mobile jobs, and waterproof if I ever get caught in the rain. Adding a procon water pump really set me back on my generator, since it flows way more than the welder requires and has such a heavy duty motor I'm able to weld less amps now on my 10k start and 8k running ridgid subaru generator. I once had my HF start circuit die during warranty coverage, replaced super fast and great support. Recently I think I blew up my flyback circuit and also damaged my control pannel. Keep in mind this is after having the machine in the rain about 40-50 times (very irresponsible of me I know) and all sorts of metal dust and etc. They're built pretty well. I'll have to upload some pics somewhere or do a video of it sometime because I haven't seen anyone else make a setup like the one I came up with.

[@PM17E5]

Jeff the owner of HTP said they're introducing a 400 amp or something in first quarter 2019? It will be pretty expensive but that seems like a hell of a beast. I'm kind of looking forward to it because sometimes when I get asked to weld semi truck trailers and etc that are made out of 3/8ths or certain aluminum wheels it feels like 220 is not enough.

[@uhhuh5227]

Ya remember to tack the backside of whichever way u wanna push

[@jkgkjgkijk]

I break my wire instead of cutting it. No issues

[@ronjohnson7699]

Don't you just love the Tig Finger?

[@5thStreetFab]

definitely!

[@WV591]

How in the world you get such perfect welds? I have to TU and sub

[@5thStreetFab]

Haha thanks just a lot of practice

[@5thStreetFab]

Haha thanks! Just lot of practice

[@WV591]

well i've gone through 4 rolls of flux practice with my eastwood 135 and still stink at it. no matter what brand of wire.my welds look like molten lava or burn right through . and what passes for will do for now, i have to beat it with hammer to get the warpage out. other than me stinking at welding as a beginner and bad eyes even with cheater lens, i think the problem is not using gas.

[@bfastlunchndinner523]

​@@WV591 Titanium welders come with a nice manual (just download off their website - I don't own one) with a handy chart showing pics of good and bad welds and what settings might need to be changed to make the bad pics into the good ones. Keep the faith!

[@glennunderwood4690]

You could have preyed it up a little instead of beating it, then used a little wire shem. 😊

[@jasons.2082]

Or take a torch to backside and heat other way

[@mathtone]

Please normalize master volume.

[@jasons.2082]

Dude welding out on an edge like that your gonna get some distorting no matter what, unless uweld gussets onto plate

[@5thStreetFab]

Jason Sherrod this is a demo on the effects of distortion and how to deal with it

[@omarortiz738]

Cant hear you...

[@guysteel]

"so fit up should be on point. 90 should be 90" .. and then he says, .. maybe make it 92 so it will pull back to 90

[@dougswenson3236]

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[@MFchocolates24]

Need to get a better mic

[@jonk6137]

Your welds look ok but your video quality is lackluster

[@5thStreetFab]

ya I'm just a welder all I have is a cell phone to film with but I'm trying to get better stuff

[@Migman2020]

You only need to clip the wire on lower market machines.. its a machine issue if you have to clip the wire.. not the process

[@frounse3821]

Wrong

[@frounse3821]

Wrong

[@Migman2020]

@@frounse3821 decent machines have a perfect burn back when set properly. I never ever have to clip wire on mine

[@JesRocWitMe]

Guy looks like Quagmire

[@5thStreetFab]

Giggity