How To Stop Your Solder From Flowing And Messing Up Your Jewellery

To make solder flow you need a grease, oil and oxide free surface but there are times when you don't want your solder to flow. Perhaps it is to protect a textured surface or even a highly polished one.
Andrew shows you several products from around the home to help with this technique.
This 20 minutes film shows Andrew giving over 30 years worth of experience with plenty of hints and tips that are not written or often talked about.
After watching this film you will be fillled with a wealth of experience to make yoursoldering a more pleasurable and accurate experience.
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Andrew shows you many hints and tips that he has gained from his experience as a professional goldsmith.
Andrew Berry, a professional jeweller for 30 years, is the training director of www.AtTheBench.com, an award winning on line jewellery training website.

[@WHITTONZ]

thank you for your excellent advice and showing how it's done. I use a very soft pencil (3B) for very fine work as it is easy to apply and remove.

[@lenastiward8657]

Used as a barrier from solder flowing?

[@WHITTONZ]

Yes. Exactly so.

[@MariaWalker-qo3vi]

@@WHITTONZinteresting….

[@gloriaespinosa7826]

Most informative. Thank you. I am enjoying your educational videos immensely.

[@paulcraddock3818]

Very enlightening video on that soldering technique. But my question is how do you solder next to something and stop the solder melting of the item that is already on your ring (say) .

[@leonardpearlman4017]

I think the classic jeweler thing is to use solders of different melting points! Hard, medium, easy... right? If you want to use one solder and not melt one joint by making another one it's a problem, but there are products for that! I think most of them are gels or pastes that take up some of the heat.

[@ny-co3039]

Everything you teach is spot on! I've tested out so many things I've learned on your channel, and it all works just as you've said👍

[@1827handmade]

Will the tipex protect a solder join from melting if I'm soldering nearby?

[@elisabethperdue9667]

Very informative & helpful. It’s amazing how one little piece of information can literally save you hours of frustration! I have simply fallen in love with your series! Many thanks to you Andrew. 😊

[@pbjsilverstudio4882]

Hoping I can get an answer to this question. What is the best way to remove these resists when done?

[@MistiqueMakeup]

I wanted to ask the same thing. I tried using white out once, and (may have used the wrong one?) I had so much trouble trying to remove it! I am kind of hesitant to try other things now, incase they are just as hard to get off.

[@flyingcheff]

Is the yellow ocher the only one of the paints that work? Is it because of a specific ingredient in that particular color? Is the red, Rouge? Thanks, Andrew! Love your vids- especially your fun VLOGS with your daughter and lots of FRUIT! it's clear you are close with your family, that's awesome!

[@wordswritteninred7171]

THANK YOU!!! Just found you yesterday. Just found this video. I have a design, for a particular stone, that I have been wanting to make, for over a year now. I cannot successfully soldier it, without the soldier flowing to the outside of the design. I have attempted many different ways. Many different times. All unsuccessfully. I am so excited to finally create this piece!

[@tanjuschabartkowski4592]

Such a helpful video! Without finding it, I'm sure I would have bought something expensive already without using what I have at home ❤ thank you 🙏

[@autopilotisforlovers]

Great video! I have found that all these materials do work well to prevent solder flow, but can be difficult to clean out of the crevices of the finished piece. Any recommendations on removing the cooked-on ochre / correction fluid?

[@SamanthaHatchett]

Thanks for the great tutorial! How do you remove the Red Rouge and Yellow Ochre without contaminating your pickle turning it into a copper plating bath?

[@johnmimist]

Or you can buy actual yellow ocher, from jewelry supply, instead of buying child’s paint set.

[@makenchips]

Andrew, so well done you can also under two walls being jointed scribe lines to act as a moat the material flow into the moat and stop it! Also if you take your solder impounded down to a very thin layer you can control the amount of solder you're putting in the joint better estimation mark you only need a film of solder not a pool to hold excellent video

[@mehmehmehmeh]

Why you use only yellow? Why other colors won't work?

[@ulrichbosman3908]

Thanks brilliant need to use for my de soldering air sucker solder gun - as the solder is getting stuck inside the solder shaft will try regards ulrich

[@daviddouglas4200]

Sir, an old trick i was made aware of -- draw round the area with a ( graphite) pencil this will stop the spread.

[@goober650NX]

Excellent video and very clear instructions. How could one fail to succeed!? Thanks for taking the time to upload.

[@chikezietreasure1916]

Please wath are the save chemicals to produce paraffin inhibitors thanks

[@vajake1]

Thanks for posting this. I have a delicate project coming up and I was wondering how I was going to stop the flow of silver soldier on adjacent areas. Bob in Central Virginia, USA

[@lilyanimate7266]

this is fantastic info. very helpful, thank you for this

[@HrafnirKrumr]

That is exactly what i was thinking about! Thank you!

[@angelfranco5809]

You can use a normal pencil and ill do the job' its more controlable and better option' less stuff to do and buy

[@lenastiward8657]

Where do you purchase powdered rouge? Thank you❤

[@shirleymason7697]

I tell many others about your vids. As well, I have good results with a jar I made up of powdered yellow ocre, mixed with distilled water. Can't imagine that your dime-store tray ocre is really core. But it worked.

[@elisabethperdue9667]

Such detailed how-to’s actually demonstrated in person. Plus you can watch it right as your doing it yourself-as many times times as you need to. Andrew is a patient and very clear instructor! I would not hesitate to recommend him to any jewelry maker, at any stage of knowledge or experience.

[@laj1285]

How easy is it to clean each of these ways off? Is the paint easier?

[@theswanniesdownunder2417]

Hello Andrew, great video! Just wondered before I go out and buy the rouge, how does it clean up and what with?

[@7DeuceCutty212]

Im a new subscriber! I really enjoy and appreciate your videos. Thx👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼 Excellent.

[@carbonsu]

This has been incredibly helpful as I have a ring project with 5 embellishments and one of the elements came off 😅 I find thermoflux incredibly messy and makes soldering harder for me. I'll try the rouge next!

[@mary-annkieckhaben5026]

cool thank you for shering.

[@MrSomeotheruser]

Very helpful.. thank you..

[@kaliymatimothy2581]

hello i like clay to play with

[@crystaldennis2744]

I was guided to this site by a fellow jewelry artist that I met in a Denny's in Wickenburg, AZ. I'm so glad I ran into him, and so sorry I didn't get his name. These tutorials are very well done, with clear instruction and excellent video. Can't wait to try out some newly learned techniques.

[@saxofonistacr]

Just try painting with a regular black pencil. It worked for me quiet well and there is no cleaning, no fumes nothing. plus you can set your line easily

[@TenebraeEques]

thanks for the video :D

[@babanam1914]

HI, what is the rouge? is that cosmetics? where can you buy it in powder? thanks

[@wordswritteninred7171]

I know this is an old post. But just in case others see this, with the same question. Rio Grande, and many others, sell it. Its comes in a block. It is a polish compound. Also, many dremel polish kits, come with a small container of it. Happy creating!

[@mexicanstylemodificationan8791]

If you apply it directly on a solder piece would it prevent it from even melting? Pls help

[@Atthebench]

No. It would still melt but the solder wouldn’t flow

[@happybird8157]

Thanks Andrew!

[@myearthlytreasures3]

Thank you!!!

[@MrKubaitis]

Stands Andrew!!!!

[@angelfranco5809]

You can use a pencil'

[@swwsociety1877]

Great tip, what's the best way to remove tipex & rouge from metal after. Also where you you buy rouge & borax? (not sure if I'm spelling them correctly?) Thank you

[@wordswritteninred7171]

Rio grande

[@johnchristian7520]

Your Commentaries are the very best I have seen/heard for their depth of detail and cautions

[@jamesbarisitz4794]

Super tips Andrew! Just starting and love this segment. 👍

[@pamelagorman8091]

Thank you

[@sophiesplace5192]

Thank you

[@westcoastcarver4328]

Awesome

[@japerstrills2047]

Good job. Nice info. Thank you.

[@dolfinmagikpro]

Great information ... Thank you! Quick question ... if I have an existing solder joint that I don't want to flow when I do another soldering step near it, would I paint (let's say the Rouge) over the existing joint to keep it from flowing? Or would I paint around the new joint? Thank you in advance for any insight! As always ... Have a better day!

[@evarodriguez5745]

Thank you for this tip, it is very helpful

[@anandpanchal6390]

thanks to share precious knowledge

[@Rana.M521]

What is the difference between gold, silver & platinum solder? And the process of making jewelry. Please explain. Thank you.

[@shemhaque2758]

Thank you for this information :)

[@jdhsjjjsjjjjndjsh6515]

Just one favor mister! Do not erase your videos from here because today I m not welding , forging but in the future when the need comes up in my life I return back seeking these videos and if videos link won't be working at that time when I will need them mostly , it requires to be my own experimentation and it's required time spending on these things, and time I don't have much, otherwise you can advise me to download the video because I think KZbin might delete the videos after many years . thank you

[@annmark1966]

Hey there, how can I solder a jump ring on my silver charm bracelet and not melt the bracelet? Please help... Annie xx

[@bjones4097]

Great demonstration Andrew. I wish I would have watched this yesterday before working on a pendant I was making and had to do some cleanup to remove the solder that flowed where I didn't want it. And, I have three of those items you used at hand. Live, watch At The Bench and LEARN!! Thank YOU!!

[@brrjohnson8131]

ok FINE, you win, I'd be an idiot not to subscribe. Yellow ochre, who knew? (yes, yes, YOU did) Saying - Thank You for sharing your vast knowledge with us feels inadequate, so subscribe I will.

[@fudge90]

Amazing thanks!!

[@windsurfer3329]

This is a very informative video. Thank you! I will be using silver solder not for jewelry making, but for robotic apps where the strength of the joint becomes important when torque is applied. Do you happen to know which grade of silver solver produces the strongest joint: hard, medium, or soft? My inclination is that the solder that penetrates deeper into the the native material should make the strongest contact. So, hard silver solder would be my choice. But, I am not sure :-)) Happy new year!

[@garybrownlee7319]

What grit sand paper are you using to clean the metal with? I’m having issues getting my hard silver solder to flow properly.

[@texasgigi3684]

Great information. Thanks for another very informative and helpful video! Thank you!!

[@martybadboy]

You're a good educator and presenter. Good job. (And I am a stingy SOB when it comes to praise on youtube vids)

[@booquaresma1]

THANK YOU AGAIN!

[@elizabethswindler6099]

Wonderful!!! THANKYOU. Can you do a demo with multiple settings on one ring? And can you demo how to make bevel for unique shaped stones like pieces of sea glass??

[@biriboula]

Thank you for you for your help! How do you make the borax paste? Do you mix borax powder with water?

[@pbjsilverstudio4882]

Now how do you get those various ‘stops’ off of the metal? Can you put them in pickle? Will that clean them off?

[@bersisdumann5876]

Andrew hi.., What is your favorite gold and silver solder formula..? Thanks..!!

[@BuckarooCoyote]

Thank you for the comparative of solutions. After you solder using one of these methods, how do you clean it off? Do you simply put it into your pickle? Will it contaminate your pickle?

[@shirleymason7697]

BuckarooCoyote .....water soluble. Wash everything before placing in pickle.

[@indira3]

@@shirleymason7697 Thank you so much!!! 🙏

[@allanthompson9695]

Really really useful. Thank you Andrew.

[@allanjgray1]

Thank you so much for these delightful and instructive videos.

[@tammygurl64]

This is a really great demo.👍 I just had to revisit it before I attempt my 3-wire band ring. Thanks! 🙂

[@pijnto]

I notice in your video's that you use, bulky large flame butane torches, what is you opinion of the smith little torch Ifind it much better that the large propane only torch

[@rommelangeles3108]

Sir andrew how much the mixture/percentage alloy you use in your solder?

[@titanbuck7]

Love this! So now how could we use this on fixing prongs when a stone is in a ring and it is safer to just add metal rather than take out the stone to work on a bent or damaged prong?

[@cuptonmillerlpnful]

Which is the easiest to clean off of the silver? Ive heard some say the white out is quite difficult to clean off.

[@mary-annkieckhaben5026]

Thank you fore you manny work in you Tutorial

[@cw2071]

Thank you!! A million times thank you!!!

[@technomama1]

Fantastic, thank you!

[@lozza1950]

Was “ silver solder “ used or “ solder “

[@lynfors3527]

This is good stuff.....thank you!

[@natmickan]

This is brilliant; thanks!

[@polygonc]

very useful - I really want to try this now!

[@CarolMinnich]

Excellent KZbin Video, Andrew. Question - How do you remove the various coatings? Are they equally easy to remove or is one harder than the other? I'm particularly interested in knowing because I just soldered closed some gold-filled patterned wire from RioG to make a bangle. I used 14kt gold solder chips to get a good colour match. Put all gold solder chips on the non-patterned interior of the bangle. The solder flowed perfectly through the joint but some came out onto the front and filled a little bit of the pattern ^%$#. As gold-filled [or I believe it's called gold-rolled in the UK], can be damaged by very vigorous cleanup, I'm wondering if the clean-off of the 'solder-flow-resists' would mar the texture. Any suggestions?

[@Atthebench]

The coatings will come off in the acid/safety pickle and with some gentle persuasion with a bristle brush

[@indira3]

@@Atthebench Thanks a lot!! 🙏

[@candaceb.8978]

thank you.....

[@rwhughes47]

EXCELLENT video!!

[@cindyturner7240]

great Video

[@lindavandenberg2067]

Thank you for this great tips! How on earth did you find out what worked?

[@Atthebench]

+Linda van den Berg just various tips I’ve gathered along my journey in jewellery making 30 years experience

[@dellagould7430]

Can that then go straight into the pickle after you have soldered or do you need to remove any product you may have used?

[@Atthebench]

Yes just put it straight into the pickle. No need to remove any of the stuff.

[@dellagould7430]

@@Atthebench Thank you

[@xxxdan82xxx]

Hi, what is this "rouge"? Is this make up rouge or something different? Thank you...😀

[@Atthebench]

It is a high polish used for polishing precious metals

[@xxxdan82xxx]

@@Atthebench Thank you, Mr. Berry. Really appreciated. Awesome videos you post here, an enormous help...