How to tell the difference between Unheated and Heated Sapphire by checking Rutile Silk Inclusions

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In this video, we distinguish between a 10.03 carat unheated blue sapphire with 7.93 carat heated blue sapphire under the microscope. Both have rutile silks inclusions which really helps in telling us if the sapphires have been heated or not.
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@BBsHoneyPot
@BBsHoneyPot 3 жыл бұрын
That was a great video. Short, understandable, and to the point! Thank you. (10C's!! WOW- THAT WAS BEATIFUL!)
@toby-7323
@toby-7323 4 ай бұрын
Your videos are absolutely amazing. I learned so much about sapphires watching your channel. Using few lab equipments I can really understand how much should I quote the seller and how much should I quote to foreign buyers. Thank you very much for sharing this great content. Recently bought a lot of blue sapphire time to see which one are heated and which one are natural. I hope there is more than 1 natural once in the lot.
@ThaiNativeGems
@ThaiNativeGems 3 ай бұрын
Thanks a lot for the compliments and glad you found our videos useful. I will hopefully uploading some more soon, if time permits. Also, good to hear about your 'gem hunting' adventures. Best Regards, Tarun Gupta, GIA GG
@nilntha
@nilntha 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Sir Am from sri lanka Still am leaning abut gems Nice video Thank u sir
@i.m.Q.2
@i.m.Q.2 Жыл бұрын
Dude! That one on the left is a dead ringer for one ive seen that was low thermal enhancenent. One small problem. The heating didnt take. 🙂 The image in your teaser? Dead ringer for my scope around 200x. Thank you!
@ThaiNativeGems
@ThaiNativeGems Жыл бұрын
Might be, but the one in the left was GRS certified as unheated Sri Lankan. Thanks again for your inputs. Regards, Tarun Gupta, GIA GG
@johnnyp3020
@johnnyp3020 6 ай бұрын
Make a video on Diffusion natural sapphires! Please🙏
@ThaiNativeGems
@ThaiNativeGems 6 ай бұрын
We have made for diffusion 'yellow sapphire.' - kzbin.info/www/bejne/p3i1ZGduZcqqodEsi=SbLSzFQuB8Aw_eTK Hopefully will make one for diffused blue sapphire soon. Thanks for watching our content. Best Regards, Tarun Gupta, GIA GG
@mohammedshameer3505
@mohammedshameer3505 Жыл бұрын
Thank you,,, pls about finger prints in heated and heated or treated ruby saphires🙏🏻
@ThaiNativeGems
@ThaiNativeGems Жыл бұрын
When I do come across some of these stones, I will try to shoot some videos on this. I do also recommend to check other ruby videos we have made, which might have these type of inclusions under the microscope. Regards, Tarun Gupta, GIA GG
@i.m.Q.2
@i.m.Q.2 Жыл бұрын
Have you ever scoped one of those out, and saw a finger print like inclusion? Years ago i bought this one sapphire for $1500 was it? Supposedly unheated. You ready for this? I scope it. You could see all the rutile broken up! You could see the iron in there as it was like cake mix peppered in. It looked like the finger print inclusions like berrylium treated stuff-but not quite. I never bothered with the oil immersion. I wish i could find the pics of it from my laptop or the other unheated one. Ironically its kinda like some of the old Ceylon (sri lanka material) but no zoning or windowing. Under the right halogen lights? You can see little specs of silver from the rutile. Its only a little 2.07 but ive got no regrets. Funky little off color like a corn flower? Discounted. The guy said heated. Scope says otherwise though yours is better than mine. 😊
@ThaiNativeGems
@ThaiNativeGems Жыл бұрын
Everyone gemstone has there own characteristics and once we know what to look we can't forget it. :) Thanks again for your inputs. Regards, Tarun Gupta, GIA GG
@i.m.Q.2
@i.m.Q.2 Жыл бұрын
@@ThaiNativeGems One thing I've learned over time, don't rely on certs. I'm not saying they're worthless, but it's amazing to see the obvious on some things and the cert says something different. That's why I don't put a lot of stock in a GIA cert. When the scope says flux, you get this lawyer/schizoid argument that says they can't say that. Then you hear from someone overseas that says they treat these stones with this copper and say it's natural-on a GIA cert each and evetytime.
@meditationandnature2500
@meditationandnature2500 3 жыл бұрын
Great information
@muhammadamjidnoor3893
@muhammadamjidnoor3893 3 жыл бұрын
The ink spot can even be seen with a naked eye at certain angles in a day light, depending upon the size of the stone as well. But, very informative and thoroughly explained.
@ThaiNativeGems
@ThaiNativeGems 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Muhammad in sharing your experience. Regards, Tarun Gupta, GIA GG
@olegariocutin9317
@olegariocutin9317 2 жыл бұрын
sir, do you recommend for the unheated blue sapphire for its texture, quality and price wise?
@jesseechavarria2411
@jesseechavarria2411 4 жыл бұрын
Good video just hard to hear your voice even with the volume turned up all the way. I think you were to far from the microphone. Thank you I still enjoyed it.
@ThaiNativeGems
@ThaiNativeGems 4 жыл бұрын
Sorry about that. It was video editing program which lowered the volume. Future videos won't have this issue. Thanks for watching. Regards, Tarun Gupta, GIA GG
@martinmonroe4539
@martinmonroe4539 4 жыл бұрын
Good knowledge about gems..keep it up and more video , sir ..thanks👍
@ThaiNativeGems
@ThaiNativeGems 4 жыл бұрын
We will be uploading some more soon. Thanks. Tarun Gupta, GIA GG
@vipgemsmart3369
@vipgemsmart3369 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for giving knowledge to everyone 🌹💎🙏
@ThaiNativeGems
@ThaiNativeGems 3 жыл бұрын
Part of my job descriptions. Thanks for positive comment.
@pumpkindiamond994
@pumpkindiamond994 3 жыл бұрын
How about rubies? Is it desame for rubies?
@lawsicom
@lawsicom 4 жыл бұрын
Its very good information
@ThaiNativeGems
@ThaiNativeGems 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Will be making some new videos soon.
@vmg7008
@vmg7008 10 ай бұрын
interresting thank you !
@vtamilmaahren
@vtamilmaahren 3 жыл бұрын
Good Job. Thank you brother. God bless you 🙏🏽
@ThaiNativeGems
@ThaiNativeGems 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@sonuverma2796
@sonuverma2796 2 жыл бұрын
How much tempreture required for emerald filling with resin
@shanthgamage7
@shanthgamage7 2 жыл бұрын
The epoxy resin Opticon, a filler that has been used in Brazilian emeralds, is an example of an artificial resin. Fillers can be divided into four groups-soft (liquid) fillers, semi hard fillers, surface-hardened fillers, and hard fillers
@sureshsahadev6116
@sureshsahadev6116 9 ай бұрын
How much x loop is used to find out heated stones ? Pls advice
@ThaiNativeGems
@ThaiNativeGems 9 ай бұрын
If you do simple search on Amazon or other online sites, I am sure you get a reasonable priced gem-loupe. But, its not only about the gem-loupe but the practice in now how to see if the stone is heated or untreated. For average person, I do recommend to just send it to reliable third party certificate provider. I have actually written article about this which you can read here: www.buygemstone.info/what-lab-or-certification-is-the-best-for-checking-your-expensive-ruby-sapphire-or-emerald/ Regards, Tarun Gupta, GIA GG
@derendzain6005
@derendzain6005 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks ..it so usefull..
@ThaiNativeGems
@ThaiNativeGems 3 жыл бұрын
Welcome 😊
@fahadfarookklt
@fahadfarookklt 4 жыл бұрын
Can you please mention the details about your Microscope ? Model ? The Magnification in which we can see the details you described in the video ?
@ThaiNativeGems
@ThaiNativeGems 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Farook, I bought my microscope 12 or 13 years ago, so not sure if it is available. Anyways, I will check and let you know. Regards, Tarun Gupta, GIA GG
@sonalichatterjee1021
@sonalichatterjee1021 4 жыл бұрын
Wonderful, thank u sir !
@thusharamendis3301
@thusharamendis3301 3 жыл бұрын
Do subtitles are long sentences pls,,👍
@Kakaporetail
@Kakaporetail Жыл бұрын
informative
@ThaiNativeGems
@ThaiNativeGems 10 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@zubairge5349
@zubairge5349 4 жыл бұрын
Bro which one is good heated or non heated???
@ThaiNativeGems
@ThaiNativeGems 4 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, not a simple answer. If you looking only based on treatments than non heated will sell in premium to heated as they are more rare. However, we have to also see five other factors like carat weight, color, clarity, cut grade, and sapphire origin to determine what is better or more premium sapphire. This is what I call 4Cs plus OT. Regards, Tarun Gupta, GIA GG
@archiehillnaturalgemcompan9311
@archiehillnaturalgemcompan9311 3 жыл бұрын
A+++ very informative
@anthonysalmon9965
@anthonysalmon9965 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! 🔥
@bigafghan_kabob2106
@bigafghan_kabob2106 5 ай бұрын
What if it looks like the unheated but has blue cloud??
@ThaiNativeGems
@ThaiNativeGems 5 ай бұрын
Like any detective work we have to look at multiple clues to see if the stone has been subject to treatment or not. Blue cloud can be 'normal' color zoning or can be chemically diffused as well. If you see other clear unheated elements then most probably it is. Wish you the best of luck with your gemstone analysis. Best Regards, Tarun Gupta, GIA GG
@sumindagemsexportltd4212
@sumindagemsexportltd4212 4 жыл бұрын
i got more knowledge this video clip.thanks very much.if you want any information about sri lanka gems stone.countac me.thank you
@trumanReficuL_fieldofresonance
@trumanReficuL_fieldofresonance Жыл бұрын
Thanks for great video presentation on sapphire! Hope to learn more from your uploads!
@ThaiNativeGems
@ThaiNativeGems Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching, and will try to upload more soon! Regards, Tarun Gupta, GIA GG
@pravinpandya3033
@pravinpandya3033 4 жыл бұрын
With 10x or 14x eye glass can we get judgement?(about treatments)
@ThaiNativeGems
@ThaiNativeGems 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Pravin, With practice, yes 10x or 14x eye-glass can assist in checking about treatments. The main thing is to see the indicators or clues. Regards, Tarun Gupta, GIA GG
@diniduchamara665
@diniduchamara665 2 жыл бұрын
Thank u
@ThaiNativeGems
@ThaiNativeGems 2 жыл бұрын
Welcome
@thusharamendis3301
@thusharamendis3301 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@maksgemsjewellery3774
@maksgemsjewellery3774 4 жыл бұрын
Keep do more videos
@ThaiNativeGems
@ThaiNativeGems 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, will try to upload more videos. Regards, Tarun Gupta, GIA GG
@shailoav5098
@shailoav5098 3 жыл бұрын
Good Aren't both natural? 🤔😇😦 Y it heat? 🤔
@ThaiNativeGems
@ThaiNativeGems 3 жыл бұрын
Yes both are natural, but one has been heat treated while other is not alter in anyway. The reason why gems are treated with heat as the natural color wasn't attractive and the heat treatment helps enhances it. For more information regarding sapphire treatments I recommend for you to read our blog post: www.buygemstone.info/2013/11/07/blue-sapphire-buying-treatment-guide-how-to-buy-and-tell-the-difference-between-natural-unheated-heated-lattice-diffusion-treatment-and-brand-new-glass-filled-sa/ Best Regards, Tarun Gupta, GIA GG
@shailoav5098
@shailoav5098 3 жыл бұрын
@@ThaiNativeGems good Message.. Thnks a lot
@rockstomper8390
@rockstomper8390 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the vid. I hit the like button. Can you show some breadcrumb looking inclusions in Africa ruby. I have one and cannot see rutilse needels in them. Trying to figure out if im buying good rubies or not. Thanks for your video. You can see some of the rubies I have bought on my channel. I only have on video... LOL
@ThaiNativeGems
@ThaiNativeGems 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Rock, I will see if I can find any rubies with breadcrumb inclusions. Are your rubies heated or unheated? Regards, Tarun Gupta, GIA GG
@rockstomper8390
@rockstomper8390 4 жыл бұрын
@@ThaiNativeGems The guys out here in Afghanistan are saying they are unheated African rubies but I cannot find any 60 degree crossing needles in them. But the specific gravity seems to be correct and not heavy which you would expect with glass filled. I can find no bubbles.
@MrBrucetom3752
@MrBrucetom3752 3 жыл бұрын
heated or unheated which one will be much more valuable?
@shanthgamage7
@shanthgamage7 2 жыл бұрын
Now days heat treatment is a common practice to improve the clarity and enhance the color of Sapphire.a stone value doesn't depend on treatment. If a stone has right color luster ,Clarity which effectives for treatments.
@shanthgamage7
@shanthgamage7 8 ай бұрын
It's depond on colour , lustre and clarity of stone's. Just beacuse unheated stone doesn't have proper colour and beauty which doesn't value in the market .
@MrBrucetom3752
@MrBrucetom3752 8 ай бұрын
thx Q foe reply and take note of that @@shanthgamage7
@minafawzy2196
@minafawzy2196 7 ай бұрын
@ritgoswami2053
@ritgoswami2053 3 жыл бұрын
The blue colour is too much bright for a Sri Lankan Sapphire .
@ThaiNativeGems
@ThaiNativeGems 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Rit, Not sure why you think Sri Lankan sapphire cannot be bright in color?
@beatrizboccheciampe4941
@beatrizboccheciampe4941 3 жыл бұрын
SORRY. NO VOLUME
@ThaiNativeGems
@ThaiNativeGems 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, I just checked and volume of this video works fine. Can you check your KZbin volume settings in the device you are using? Regards, Tarun Gupta, GIA GG
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