How to tie a Palomar Knot for Fishing (and avoid mistakes most anglers make!)

[@deniseandmarkfirestine7443]

The Palomar knot is the absolute best and strongest knot! I’ve fished all over and caught some big fish and never has the palomar knot failed me. I would never bet against the palomar knot!!

[@russellevans5726]

Great segment on knots as I have been away from fishing for over 12yrs this has brought me and refreshed my memory of knots back to me and give me confidence in my own knots

[@AlawiAlAlawi]

I beg to differ with you because I wish for all of us to learn, picked up a suffix hard mono 0.35mm and did a test where I purposely made sure not to cut through the mono when tying the knot and dressed it beautifully like you did and it snapped 4/5 times against having the loop go over the hook and the whole knot making a fliiped figure 8, then slowly pulling down each line alone, first the mainline then pulling the tag end then moistening the knot before cinching it down. I appreciate your effort from 1 angler to another, but I am putting a prize of 100$ publically here for someone to prove to me that your way of having the loop between the knot and the hook is better than the gauranteed take it to the bank Palamor knot with the loop going over the hook and the knot then cinching it down.

[@FishingDiscoveries]

That's really interesting and puzzling - because over half the time when John (in the video) deliberately pulls for a break in his palomar - tied as in the demo - the line actually snaps somewhere else than at the knot itself. Thanks for contributing to the discussion and sharing your findings (and for the prize money offer!). Paul

[@OGRH]

Thank you dude!! You're not only confident for a reason, but willing to give us a clear & concise tutorial on how not to do it before showing us how to use it successfully. You are an international hero. I'll teach my children this today & our legacy will be shared and passed down to future generations. 🫡 & 🙏. P.S. I don't easily sub up after one video, but for w/it's worth, it's the easiest way for me to genuinely show my appreciation.

[@neilmcghee1016]

Well, I will definitely practice this over Christmas!

[@SlowCarsFastSFV]

If the eye is too small.. go through once and then go back through. Resize the doubled end as needed.

[@steverpcb]

This is a great tip as when using it as part of a Rufus knot, it is the most difficult part to get right !

[@120booker]

I love this knot. I lost a big fish when a "blood knot" failed on me, this one never has. Thanks for showing me a better way to do it

[@FishingDiscoveries]

You're very welcome Andy and cheers for the positive feedback :) Paul

[@patrickoleary6607]

The "Double Uni" real good knot.

[@hereusethis]

Just started watching your videos. I'm loving them and loving your teaching vibe. Thanks!

[@FishingDiscoveries]

Really glad you're finding them useful and thank you for letting me know that we're doing something right for you. Paul.

[@markjoyce1720]

just fantastic you present things very well and clearly thanks for taking the time and trouble to do these uploads.Much appreciated.

[@AfzaalWardagHunting]

I just started fishing Thanks for guide 👍

[@FishingDiscoveries]

No problem 👍

[@georgelecain2000]

What would be the result if, after tying the overhand knot, you pass the hook or lure through the loop twice, then cinch it?

[@FishingDiscoveries]

I suspect it might create more of a strangulation knot that could cut into itself and weaken the line…but I’ll probably try it anyway out of curiosity; you never know!

[@georgelecain2000]

@@FishingDiscoveries I tried, with 50 braid, to tie a double Palomar that I saw on another site, and it just would not cinch properly (always a loop left over). My friend had the same result and we tried numerous times. My idea (above) cinched quickly and seems to work.

[@ShorrockPaul]

I am so confused about this simple knot.. a lot of people say under no circumstances pull it like you did, but rather after pulling hook through let the big loop come all the way over the TOP of the overhand knot. Ie let the loop lay along the main standing line above the overhand and then cinch it down so the big loop tightens down on top of the overhand.. then I see others cinch it up from below the overhand knots as you have done here...

[@FishingDiscoveries]

All I can say is, doing it this way in tippet means that (as often as not) when you pull for a break, the tippet will snap somewhere else than the knot (in other words, the knot is no longer the weakest part of the line)

[@dylansago7020]

I was dragging logs in with this knot yesterday, line will break first for sure

[@FishingDiscoveries]

Nice Dylan!

[@paula.2422]

great detail 👏 thank you 😊

[@FishingDiscoveries]

Cheers Paul!

[@johnlieu]

Perfect tip! Thanks for the share.

[@FishingDiscoveries]

Glad it was helpful!

[@astronomyshed]

Nice, you're like the Jack Hargreaves of fishing! 😂

[@FishingDiscoveries]

I thought Jack Hargreaves was the Jack Hargreaves of fishing 😆

[@astronomyshed]

@@FishingDiscoveries Jack was the Jack of everything lol, absolute legend.

[@dannow6674]

The improved Palomar knot and the double uni knot are stronger. Another good one is the double pitzen.

[@johnarcher9480]

I’ve always been shown to let the loop slide DOWN the line, with the loop stopping at the top, not the bottom. Interesting.

[@WizzdummHeadley]

I don't think it matters either way .

[@xx_dominator_xx5815]

I tested this vs a trilene the trilene was about the same strength but way more reliable and easier to tie

[@FishingDiscoveries]

Great - I'd always recommend the thing that works for you in the field and you can rely on. Sometimes dialling in a particular knot can help bring up its scores for "ease" and "reliability" too.

[@xx_dominator_xx5815]

@@FishingDiscoveries right i totally agree

[@vernongilmore4632]

Double san diagonal jamm knot

[@jelenagirdauskiene2300]

double uni knot is just sligtly stronger but it is very bulky knot ant only for thin lines

[@jamescooper2618]

Palomar is a great knot. Try the Pitzen with doubled line. You may be surprised.

[@FishingDiscoveries]

Cool - I'll have to give it a go (a regular Pitzen is already one of my favourites!). Paul

[@Simoncorse]

Super ! Merci

[@FishingDiscoveries]

de rien! Paul

[@theowenssailingdiary5239]

I've done the test and double uni beats it.. On this planet anyway..

[@FishingDiscoveries]

Fascinating. Just out of interest, when you tie just a Palomar and pull for a break, whereabouts is the line breaking?

[@Day12My]

5:25....Double Pitzen is stronger. This test has been done! How much money have you lost in 2 years?

[@FishingDiscoveries]

None so far, but would be very glad to in exchange for a stronger knot 😊

[@Day12My]

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[@AmyWinehouse.914]

No so easy on a size 16.

[@FishingDiscoveries]

I'm curious as to how so AW? Unless you are using tippet that is so thick you can't thread it twice through the hook-eye...but then again, because you preserve more of the breaking strain of the tippet, so you can use thinner line for the same strength. Once threaded, it's actually easier to stroke all the parts of the knot forward over the hook when that hook is small - compared to a big hook (perhaps with a big fly dressed on it too). Paul

[@alphabob12000]

just do the knots

[@FishingDiscoveries]

@@alphabob12000 And they say TikTok is ruining attention span 🤪😂

[@burtonedwards2120]

Your explaining it far more complicated than necessarily. Put a loop through the eye of the hook, tie an overhand knot, snug the knot to the eye, slip the hook through the loop and draw it tight. Simple.

[@FishingDiscoveries]

If you tighten a Palomar knot as you describe (especially using fine tippet) you're almost certain to damage the line and lose a massive amount of the breaking strain. People experiencing knot failure as a result of following the steps you describe are the exact reason for making this video. If the line you're using is thick enough to not suffer any noticeable weakness, then keep doing what you're doing; for everyone else, the detail in the video might help diagnose the problem and give a solution.

[@burtonedwards2120]

@@FishingDiscoveries Unfortunately, I don’t fly fish, I could never get the back of it. I am in the deep deep south of Louisiana and do a lot of catfishing and bass. So I don’t use a tippet, whatever that is?

[@FishingDiscoveries]

@@burtonedwards2120 You're good to go then 😃

[@barut0ff474]

Great knot but the Uni Knot is stronger

[@FishingDiscoveries]

...not in my tests (by a long way) but that's why it's good to have different options to suit everyone's tying style.

[@bluesetter4204]

Palomar is stronger by a long shot. That said, I tie uni knots most of the time and always double uni for attaching mono leaders to braid.

[@thedon9670]

@@bluesetter4204 palomar and fg are both better options.

[@johnarcher9480]

Double Uni is competitive, not so much a single uni. The Palomar will often NOT be the break point. No knot is stronger than that (though another may equal that).

[@andreipetrescu603]

​@@bluesetter4204Double Uni trough the eye beats Palomar by a long shot in my test.

[@basshunter8206]

Stop yaking and show the dang knot. I got tired of trying to understand half the stuff he said that didn't matter. Just tie the knot.

[@FishingDiscoveries]

The point of the video is to help make informed choices on which knot (and how to avoid pitfalls). There's a clue to that content where the thumbnail says "in depth analysis". Shorter vids of ours would probably include words like "fast demo" or similar for the quick-hit versions. On that theme, there are probably hundreds of "quick demo" videos for Palomar knots on KZbin, so if you need to know how the basics of tying it (whether or not you know/think you should use it) - then one of those videos would probably help you out right now. On the other hand, if your Palomar fails on you, it might be worth digging in to some of those small details to see whether it's the knot itself or how you're tying it. Tight lines, Paul

[@keithevans6631]

You tied the same loop that u said wasn't right...smh

[@FishingDiscoveries]

I'm struggling to understand why you're shaking your head Keith - Of course he tied the same loop (it's the same knot after all). The point is how to avoid spoiling your Palomar by tightening it incorrectly (and how stroking everything forward in front of the fly/hook solves that). Paul

[@keithevans6631]

@@FishingDiscoveries o ok

[@traumatose6003]

That's not a Palomar knot. Why do folks try and overcomplicate things? Not sure what that mess was he ended up with. But it wasn't a Palomar knot.

[@FishingDiscoveries]

I'm sorry to fact check the comment - but if your Palomar knot doesn't end up like the one in the video... it's not a Palomar knot. I'm also curious as to what is complex about tying an overhand knot in a loop of line and then putting the hook through the loop?

[@bluesetter4204]

Sure is

[@thedon9670]

There's always some clown.

[@Day12My]

yea it is