How To Tie A Perfection Loop

In this video, Brian Flechsig of Mad River Outfitters and the Midwest Fly Fishing Schools breaks down how to tie the Perfection Loop. Not considered a primary knot for fly fishing but a good one to know.
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[@Madriveroutfitters]

Stay tuned!

[@jamesfishing8075]

Can I use this in place of my welded loop if you line did not come with a loop on it?

[@Madriveroutfitters]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/boKudIupqa-qaZI

[@pacman4568]

What are your thoughts on Braided Leader Loop?

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Please send your questions to Brian directly through the shop. Send him an email or give him a call and he’ll be happy to help. Thanks.

[@bigcohotom3361]

Thank you ! Thank you ! Thank you ! You can teach an old dog new tricks. I am learning a lot from your videos.

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Thanks for watching.

[@michaeljgraff]

I use figure 8''s but I am moving from Alaska to a lake Erie watershed. . this is my first exposure to this knot. is there and advantage beside ease of tying with cold hands? this does seem like it would be easier with light line and cold hands.

[@Madriveroutfitters]

No real advantage. Whichever is easier for you but we find that most folks prefer this.

[@bmzaron713]

Thank you so much man, great video quality and instruction

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Brian Z Thanks for watching and stay tuned.

[@markcoldiron5530]

....more knot videos.

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Done

[@MRxJOHNx]

Using this knot to pre-tie my own leaders and I've done knot breakage test with it and every time, no matter what pound line I use, it breaks too easily at the knot. I'm tying exactly and is following step by step, as shown in this video...what am I doing wrong???

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Feel free to call or e-mail Brian at the shop. He may be able to help?

[@shadowlord17762]

I just bought a fly rod yesterday and I watched your video this morning because my fly line didn't have a pre-made loop, so I had to tie this one and I can finally finish my fly rod. Can't wait to practice with it and start go8ng fishing with it. Thank you.

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Thanks for watching and happy to help. Stay tuned and stay in touch.

[@WZH-pd4el]

How can 27 people give this a thumbs down? Great video, clear and easy to understand. Keep up the great videos MRO. Looking forward to more of your casting videos too.

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Haters gonna hate. Some people just have nothing better to do than spew on knot tying videos which when you really think about it, is pretty pathetic. Thanks for being here and please stay tuned.

[@hoobeydoobey1267]

Maybe because it constantly shifted perspective?

[@JamesMooreSeattle]

I didn't downvote it, but the music is horrific. Fingernails on a chalkboard would have been less annoying.

[@JonDunnmusician]

Wonderful teaching Regarding the 2 comments below: even more ridiculous, loved the dual perspective: extremely helpful & if the music bothers you that much might want to find another video instead of ranting like a lunatic

[@snag_central8886]

@@Madriveroutfitters dude it just wasn’t that easy to understand and I’m currently getting a 4.0. Maybe I’m bad at learning-or maybe-just maybe-the video wasn’t that easy to understand. Maybe it was mostly loyal fans giving you a thumbs up. Who’s to know… yeah, you’re right, there’s no valid criticism here, everyone that doesn’t like your video is just a lame hater cause you’re so perfect 🙄

[@N2RI1]

I would like to makeup several leaders with loop on each end of specific length with same size loop like several 18" with 3/4" loop on 10lbs test and same with 1 1/2" 20 lbs test using pvc pipe to set size of loops

[@N2RI1]

Any help atchieving this like what size pvc pipe would be nice as I plan to keep leaders in cd disk pouch to take on fishing trips

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Please contact the shop directly with your questions and they will be happy to help. Thanks.

[@charliethompson1032]

Thank you this is an excellent tutorial entry-level flyfisher good knot to know now onto the handshake.

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Thanks for watching.

[@reveluv11]

Thank you very much, I needed to learn how to tie a loop for a lab and this helped tremendously.

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Ima Nzurum Thanks for being here!

[@johndonohoe1436]

Hi, I have been watching your videos . I never have used a tapered leader , I just tie my fluorocarbon line onto the fly line. Is this totally wrong. I can cast a reasonable distance except for the last few yards on the reel. Thanks for a reply John uk.

[@Madriveroutfitters]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/fIXEXqqYZ6h4nqM

[@Madriveroutfitters]

And this: kzbin.info/www/bejne/d6W7gX2pr8mKb9U

[@occupationarmy]

Nice I got a cheap fly rod from Walmart when I was a kid that didn't have the loop. This really made it easy.

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Happy to help! Stop by our shop online if you ever need anything fly fishing, happy to serve you! 👍

[@ericb484]

Can I use the perfection loop to attach a fly line with no loop end to a leader with a pre made loop end?

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Please send your questions directly to the shop via phone or e-mail and they will be happy to help. Thanks.

[@dakotaschmidt416]

is this supposed to tighten and loosen because mine did and i’m not sure if i did it correctly

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Please contact the folks at the shop with your questions. So sorry but we do not have that intel here. Contact Brian or the folks there via e-mail or by phone and they will be happy to help. That's what they do! Thanks.

[@swoopdog54]

Going fishing on the Kenai. Haven't fly fished for Reds in years. This simple video has saved myself tons of time. Thanks so much!!!

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Thanks for watching.

[@charlesdunevant1689]

Why don't my heavier leader perfection knots stay tight? Great videos.... thanks!

[@Madriveroutfitters]

hard to say without seeing. If you do them like shown here, they should.

[@LOUDFARTNOISES]

I like the second part where it zooms out to show you his expressions while he ties the knot.

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Thanks for watching.

[@eaglefeather8840]

I've been sending smoke signals for months now 😆

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Thanks for watching.

[@HannesZetterlund]

Is nail knot better? I am not great at tying those but just wondering

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Please send any and all questions directly to Brian at the shop. He can be reached at the email listed in the video description. He’ll get back to you there quickly. (He doesn’t monitor comments here). Thanks.

[@lilwizard2827]

Only problem i have is that it doesnt want to pull tight

[@Madriveroutfitters]

It should!

[@alstell540]

will this work with thicker flouro for a pike leader?

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Please send your questions over to Brian at the shop via email or give him a call. He’ll be happy to help/answer. Thanks.

[@pikemaster1972]

Will this be any good for leader to polyleader ?

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Thanks for watching. Please send any and all questions directly to the shop and they will be happy to help. You can e-mail them or give them a call.

[@kiiroMADE]

Thank you for this tutorial, it made this very easy for me as a complete beginner!

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Thanks for being here and please stay tuned.

[@Mainely_a_guy_fishing]

If my fly line doesnt have welded loop can i just use this knot to attach leaders to it?

[@Madriveroutfitters]

No! Here you go: kzbin.info/www/bejne/boKudIupqa-qaZIsi=4aw11ocDYWUEEUvi

[@Mainely_a_guy_fishing]

@Madriveroutfitters thank you that video seems like it will work much better

[@jamesdunn9714]

Easiest demo on youtube in how to tie a perfection Loop!

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Thanks for watching!!!

[@sawyrrr..44]

I was having a bad da y and I watched

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Thanks for being here.

[@sawyrrr..44]

@@Madriveroutfitters 💕

[@Lucas-ve2em]

Every time I do it on mono it slips

[@Madriveroutfitters]

@@Lucas-ve2em Younare doing something wrong then.

[@charlieoneal8071]

Tell me how and what to make my own leaders from. I panfish primarily and love it but tired of having to order leaders. I use 5# 7 ft primarily. Any tips apprecaiated

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Feel free to contact the shop directly and they will be happy to help. That's what they do!!!! Thanks.

[@Ryan-vw8ch]

Thanks very helpful

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Ryan F Thanks for watching.

[@BillyReed68]

Thanks Brian, Talked to you on the phone today from St. Mary's County MD. The Patuxent River has some of the best fishing on the East coat, as you know. Thank you for all your advice on building my own leaders. Going out now to test what we discussed. I'll let you know what happens.

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Always happy to help and thanks for watching.

[@strichards5337]

Thumbs up 👍🏾 for sure. My first perfection knot vid and KZbin had your vid at top of list. Algorithm got it right. Couple of questions. I’m brand new to fly fishing and was gifted a 10wt rod and reel spooled with 10wt intermediate sinking line. I fish saltwater and will be learning this set up from the shoreline. Will a perfection knot hold up to fish in the 30 lb+ class fish? I target striped bass, albacore and bluefish. A 10-20 lb fish is norm and 30+ is possible. Is this the right knot or are there more appropriate loop knots for this saltwater application? Thx u.

[@Madriveroutfitters]

ST Richards Thanks for watching. Please send your questions directly to the shop and they will be happy to answer/consult there.

[@abbasmerhi1]

That is amazing i start to fly fishing now in sweden and i am learning a lot from your videos , i have a question can u do a Perfection loop directly on the flying line if it have no loop like u did on first step and attaching it to the loop leader or the method using maxima to make a loop is better , i mean if it work and deliver same energy so i skip the maxima loop and do it directly on the line , what do u think ? Thanks.

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Thanks for watching. Please send your questions directly to Brian through the shop and he'll be happy to help. You can e-mail him at [e-mail].

[@abbasmerhi1]

@@Madriveroutfitters hi i did message him , i got no answer so far , wonder if he got my email

[@Madriveroutfitters]

@@abbasmerhi1 He answers every single email so if no response, he didn’t get it.

[@Madriveroutfitters]

@@abbasmerhi1 he did get the email but is traveling so he should get back to you later tonight or tomorrow. Thanks.

[@abbasmerhi1]

@@Madriveroutfitters Thanks

[@wahipple]

Thank you Brian for the video just premade some leaders for my spey rod just 4 feet of 20lbs test and I made some for my regular fly rod for wet and steamers 6 ft of 12lbs test thanks for the great videos

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Thanks for watching.

[@kennycoye3907]

I just tryed it! I worked! Nothing ever works for me when tying knots! Thats why Velcro shoes are sweet. Lol. No, but seriously, that was a good vid. Easy to learn!!

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Thanks for watching. Happy to help.

[@bradswarren]

I wanna know what brand of reading glasses you have there!

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Brad Warren Clic, he gets them at Mad River Outfitters. kzbin.info/www/bejne/nHy6i3qnqLiXZq8

[@laneromero7943]

Would you take that mono leader and attach a fluorocarbon leader with a uni-knot in a lighter # to act as a tipet or what is tipet??? I got a fly rod about 14 years ago and have no clue how it works!

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Watch this and you'll have a good clue: kzbin.info/www/bejne/d6W7gX2pr8mKb9U

[@joncothranphotography9375]

Quick question on the perfection loop in monofilament: Is that a proper size or should it be smaller for actual use? Thanks!

[@Madriveroutfitters]

That’s about proper here in the video. Feel free to contact Brian at the shop though if you have any further questions.

[@Tankflipper]

enjoying the videos, very helpful. thank you!

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Thanks so much for watching!

[@godsnextdoor]

Holy💩 how easy is that I've been trying this for ages,thankyou👍🏼

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Thanks for watching.

[@Tyrelcobain03]

I tried a smoke signal but you didn’t reply. Haha

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Yes we did. You didn't see it?

[@MichaelSmith-hy2fo]

Should my loop slip like a slip not?

[@Madriveroutfitters]

No, it should not.

[@MichaelSmith-hy2fo]

Thank-you very much, I've got it now. Pretty embarrassing knot tying skills on my part. I used to always tell myself "can't tie knots? Tie lot's!" Pretty useless trying to fly fish on the Bow River in Calgary, Alberta. Hope I learn from all your videos. Thanks again.

[@Blgtn43]

Thanks.

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Appreciate you being here.

[@mahoganychinchilla]

If your fly line has no welded loop at the leader end, can you tie a perfection loop with it? My leader has a loop but my fly line doesn't...

[@Madriveroutfitters]

No, please never tie any kind of knot within your line. Have a look at this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/boKudIupqa-qaZI The method shown there will work great for you. Let us know what weight fly line you have and we'll get you an idea of what diameter mono to use for the "loop connector" MRO

[@mahoganychinchilla]

Mad River Outfitters Thank you for the quick reply! I have a 5wt fly line on.

[@Madriveroutfitters]

.017" - in Maxima Clear that is 20lb Make sure to use Maxima Clear or an equivalent STIFF type mono. Nail knot a 6-8" piece on the tip of the line and tie a perfection loop in that as shown in the video and you'll have a loop connector. All set. Feel free to give us a call if you have any questions. 614-451-0363

[@mahoganychinchilla]

Mad River Outfitters wow thank you I did not expect a response that fast as well as a great solution. Tight lines!

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Happy to help. It's what we do. Stay tuned.

[@daelpixphotography]

Thank you for teaching me a new knot :)

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Thanks for watching.

[@billbohobo3633]

Thank you. I had to make a perfection loop on my line bc there wasn’t one. Great instructions

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Thanks for watching but you should never tie a knot with your fly line. Do this instead: kzbin.info/www/bejne/boKudIupqa-qaZI

[@TK-rk5fn]

Can I use this to loop tippet to my skagit sink tips as well as to my streamers? I have a hard time seeing to tie a non slip loop knot

[@Madriveroutfitters]

For the leaders to tips but probably not for the fly.

[@izzy8609]

I cut the first welded loop on my fly line like a goof and needed this to get the ball rolling again, thanks.

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Thanks for watching. This may help as well since you never want to tie a knot IN your fly line- kzbin.info/www/bejne/boKudIupqa-qaZI

[@roanlaw5679]

Good job on hitting one hundred subscriptions in my day we only had black and white cracking quality on these machines ament I right?👍

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Roan Law Thanks for being here.

[@roanlaw5679]

No problem 👍

[@006guitarplayer]

Absolutely the simplest and easiest to understand tutorial on this. I've learned so much from your channel recently. Thank you for all you do for the fly fishing community! Keep up the good work 👍

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Thanks so much for watching. Stay tuned.

[@hounddog8895]

Will this work for makining a loop to hook on leaders

[@Madriveroutfitters]

In the butt of the leader, yes. Not in the fly line.

[@hounddog8895]

@Madriveroutfitters So if my fly line doesn't have a loop would I nail knot it or what

[@Madriveroutfitters]

@@hounddog8895 here you go: kzbin.info/www/bejne/boKudIupqa-qaZIsi=g8VZrPv0CDEelBrM

[@hounddog8895]

​@@MadriveroutfittersMy loop keeps slipping been trying for multiple days there's no luck

[@swmplvr]

how well does this knot work on fluorocarbon knotless tapered leaders ? cheers!

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Works great on anything.

[@rhino269]

Thanks for the video, made this much more straightforward. Whilst for some might be easy, I really struggled until I came across your video.

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Thanks for watching. Happy to help.

[@bluegill2030]

To make it a welded knot would just melt the tip of the fly line so it doesn’t pull threw?

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Bluegill20 Not sure we understand the question. Probably better if you email the shop directly. Thanks.

[@brianlb78]

Is this strong enough for grouper and snapper?

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Sure.

[@danielgroth3070]

Thanks for good education 🙏😊😊😊😊🥰🙏

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Thanks for watching.

[@danielgroth3070]

@@Madriveroutfitters 🙏😊😊🙏

[@gooddoggo2258]

My fly line doesn’t have a loop at the end, can I use a perfection loop to create one to attach my leader to?

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Do this instead: kzbin.info/www/bejne/boKudIupqa-qaZI

[@kennywarren8450]

Got the knot on my second try. Great videos. Thanks for sharing your knowledge Sir!

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Good work. Thanks for watching.

[@isaiahstillmanlpn6245]

Is the perfection loop something that I can use in the end of my airflo sinking tips for longevity? Thanks!!!👍

[@Madriveroutfitters]

No, you typically don't want to tie this knot in any fly line or sink tip. You CAN do this though....kzbin.info/www/bejne/boKudIupqa-qaZI

[@markstrasburg1883]

Hi, tried my first perfection loop on monofilament line and it works for the loop but when I pull it, it tightens down to a knot. Any thoughts?

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Please contact the shop directly via phone or email and they will be happy to help. Thanks.

[@markstrasburg1883]

Hi, just figured out what I was doing wrong and got it. 👍 Thanks for the quick reply and looking forward to the rest of you how-to videos. Thanks again

[@bigboy3332]

Great video got it right on my 2nd try , great tutorial ,cheers🍻

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Thanks for watching and congrats. Useful knot.

[@doctoredable]

Great concise video Brian. Could you please post another video showing how to tie a hook or a snap attachment to the loop? Thanks in advance.

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Edward Dergosits Thanks for watching. Best if you could send to him via email at [e-mail]. He’ll get it there right away.

[@0161Jinxter666]

How strong is this knot compaired to other loop knots?

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Not sure on that to be honest. This is the only one we use and never had a problem.

[@abahmufishing]

Nice tq sir easy to do it

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Thanks for watching and happy to help.

[@drawwithbeektor6329]

Thank you, sir!

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Thanks for watching.

[@jameswelch3923]

When is the book End Of the Line coming out?

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Not sure James. You'd have to check with Brian directly.

[@petergoulding5995]

Thank you Brian thumbs up!

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Thanks for watching.

[@georgeh0536]

Best tutorial I've seen, he even uses 2 lines and does it twice.

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Thanks for watching.

[@lstvphoto]

Thanks again for a great tutorial!

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Thanks for being here.

[@lennytheleopard]

Thank you. Very helpful !

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Thanks for watching.

[@johntalamelli8266]

Talks to much nonsense

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Don't you mean "too" much instead of "to" much? If you are going to leave stupid and hurtful comments here, for the world to see, you should at least spell correctly. One would think.

[@billcampbell6602]

appreciated, thanks

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Thanks for being here.

[@TheOutdoorCatch]

Thanks for the tips!👍

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Thanks for watching and please stay tuned.

[@michaelwood5519]

Thanks for sharing!

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Thanks for watching.

[@lancerudy9934]

Great video 😊

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Appreciate you being here.

[@mxtrailrider128]

great video! it helped me!

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Glad to hear! Thanks for watching and stay tuned!

[@schadowolf]

Great video!

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Thanks for watching.

[@benfranks6375]

Thanks so much!!!

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Thanks for watching.

[@robertbranham3244]

Thanks Brian

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Thanks for being here!

[@drvaleriejuliebrousseau9607]

Thanks! You made that so easy and easy to remember too!

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Thanks for watching.

[@Aviin1]

Thank you for this! Saves me from having to wait til next week to try my new rod and reel because it came with backing and line but no leaders.

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Thanks for watching. Happy to help.

[@sabrinaohagan3000]

Best vid

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Thanks for watching.

[@rikhall4739]

Thank you. Starting fly fishing again after 35 years. A nice new knot form me. A tad bit quicker than my old nail knot.

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Thanks for watching and please stay tuned.

[@pallgudmundsson2539]

love ur channel helped me soooo much !

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Thanks for being here. We're happy to help and please stay tuned.

[@markcoy3566]

Awesome Thanks

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Thanks for watching.

[@ThePorpoisepower]

I tied a perfection loop at the end of my leader's butt section (It didn't come with one), but it seem s to slide to much. Am I tying it too loose? Or alternately should I skip the perfection loop and use a snell/nail knot to attach it directly to my fly line?

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Porpoise Power It shouldn’t slide if tied right. Your choice there on the “method”. Feel free to call the shop if we can help further.

[@ThePorpoisepower]

@@Madriveroutfitters Thanks, I'll try it again.

[@ThePorpoisepower]

@@Madriveroutfitters 3rd times the charm I guess... not sure what I did wrong the first couple times. Maybe some part of the knot flipped the wrong way or something during tightening.

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Porpoise Power 👍

[@tacocraftpemex1374]

I think I am having the same problem

[@ricecube100]

thank you, this was very helpful

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Thanks for watching, Stephen! Lots more helpful info on the way.

[@martinwormald1719]

Hi there I’ve just watched every one of the perfection loop videos on you tube, studied them all very closely as I don’t think this is as good a knot as everyone thinks. Now I might be wrong and in a way hope I am, but I’ve tied a dozen perfection loops on each end of piece of line with my own loops which I’ve been using for ever on the other end (basically a loop of line with an overhand knot with a twist in the standing line). So, I’ve got twelve pieces of line with the perfection loop at one end and my other knot at the other. Fingers in each knot and pull (one at once)! Every one broke at the perfection loop! Now I’m no genius and I don’t have any laboratory testing facilities, but it seems to me that the PL is not what it’s cracked up to be! Honestly I would love to be proved wrong, so if anyone would like to get back to me I would be most interested. Thank you by the way for the video. Martin from England.

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Never had that experience with this knot. For sure best to send this note over to Brian at the shop via e-mail if you don't mind. He'll get back to you there for sure. [e-mail]. Thanks.

[@icefisher1171]

Thank you for everything you do for us. All the lessons, tips, tricks, and more. I have learned so much from watching your videos. I have a Scientific Angler fly line with no loop and wanted one as I'm very new to fly fishing and will probably change leaders often until I figure out what I'm doing, so these videos helped me immensely. I wish Iived closer, so I could take your fly casting classes. I've watched your casting series a few times, but I'd really like some in person critique and help. Anyway, thank you for everything. I appreciate it all.

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Thanks for being here.

[@DrUmtombo]

Brian’s videos are without doubt the clearest on the net - thanks very much Mad River Outfitters 👍

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Thanks for watching! We really appreciate it.

[@jamesbonito2274]

I just bought a leader today and now I'm working on getting my Flys

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Thanks for being here. Let us know if we can help with those flies!!!

[@markwells8631]

Thank you for teaching this knot, as well, videos on building your own leaders. Im new to fly fishing and your explanations of building your own leaders helped me comprehend and understand the dynamics and reasoning behind the why and when behind different choices in leaders and tippets. Theres definitely a learning curve to fly fishing and doing it properly, while also being productive, when compared to fishing with a spinning or bait casting rig. Fishing for trout in streams is different from fishing for bass or pan fish on a lake or pond. Again, thank you for clearing the air on that topic.

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Thanks so much for watching and please stay tuned.