How to Treat Dysautonomia in Long Covid | With Ashok Gupta and Dr Tamsin Lewis

[@claudiacastillo5898]

This makes SO MUCH sense to me. I developed dysautonomia during a stressful financial period and I was able to calm it down by 70% by changing my habits, resting, and mostly making myself feel SAFE. What Dr. Gupta said resonated with me, that during that “life threatening” period your brain and body think you might not survive and make your autonomic nervous system go crazy. With dysautonomia I wasn’t even able to watch an action movie trailer because i felt like fainting. It’s as if my brain differentiate fiction from reality. It could not recognize that it was just a character in a movie, it perceived it as me “being in danger”, and up until this day I have many weird triggers that I still need to rewire and tell myself that I am safe. It is so weird but that is how it is. Last week I was exposed to covid and now the dysautonomia is worse than before. I did have flu like symptoms for about 5 days and then boom, I started having dizziness, nausea, muscle spasms, i felt like my brain had fireworks, i feel drunk all the time, etc. It is absolutely crazy. I’m not sure if all of this was triggered by covid.

[@bigbuu4334]

How are you feeling now ?

[@brooklynnshelton3260]

I'm positive it was triggered by covid. I am having the same issues. It's been a nightmare.

[@TheBushRanger.]

Update Claudia?

[@daniellr8509]

did you try it?how did it went

[@shelleylannon2245]

Thank you for all your videos! You're one of the few dedicated to this matter.

[@RUNDMC1]

Thank you Shelley!

[@annieeatch9014]

I’m sure a mix of everything is what is needed especially rest, pace and diet. Still got covid toes at times so .....

[@ronanboyle2006]

Fair play Gez - you managed to present this much more scientifically than the scientist (P Garner) I tried DNRS for a good few months and unfortunately can’t say it did anything. Might give Gupta a go as I am certainly open to the concept. Would be great if you could interview Bruce Patterson though as his research is so far ahead of anything else. So we try Gupta to convince our bodies to ignore cellular viral proteins or we use Patterson’s treatment to remove or both! Also interesting that the cell type identified by Patterson has a half life meaning with time we all should get better.

[@RUNDMC1]

Hi Ronan. I’m waiting on Bruce to publish his most recent paper before approaching him. For what it’s worth, I think viral debris is common in most who’ve had the virus, the difference with long haulers is that we’re REACTING to it. So yes, removing the debris would be nice, but if we can’t do that then let’s deal with the reaction and then we can be like everyone else who’s recovered after an infection. The nussenberg paper that found viral persistence was in asymptomatic people - hence my thinking.

[@davidwrathall3776]

Another great video, and almost certainly an important part of the jigsaw for many people. I don't think it's a particularly important piece for me tho. I've always been super chilled out and have remained so throughout LC (5 months). Resting heart rate is definitely very important tho. When mine is the same as it was pre-covid, I think I tend to feel OK the following day. Maintaining this is very difficult tho, good sleep and plenty of rest being key. Great video, and I'll dedicate more of my time to my meditation and breath work over the next few weeks. 😃

[@RUNDMC1]

Great to hear that David. Thanks for watching and commenting :)

[@jennyeyles9596]

Really helpful ideas. Thank you

[@RUNDMC1]

Thanks Jenny!

[@dr.samierasadoonalhassani2669]

You are very talented ,believe in what you say as I was involved in this viral infection exposed to high viral Load from an Indian builder whose girl fiend diabetic 36 years old died Russian ,In Dec 2019 ,I did not know news as I did not listen to news and or Television watching as I am from Iraq and lost trust in everything especially media,health and politics,very skeptic and stoic..Healthy life style as whole package is the answer especially sleep,observe rythm of sunlight ,diet,inremittentent fasting,probiotics ,probiotics all made at home,do not trust even your self trust the evidence from Japan and Germany ,not corrupted yet.

[@samjarea]

RUN-DMC, have you cured your Long Covid yet?

[@RUNDMC1]

I don’t believe there is a ‘cure’. Talking of recovery is more sensible

[@samjarea]

@@RUNDMC1 recovery or cure, the actual term is not important, what is important, have you recovered 100%? Which to me is being cured.

[@Hannah-dr1rl]

Another great video Gez ! Hope you are doing a bit better. The Autonomic Nervous System theory really resonates with me - I came across it when my other fave KZbinr for helping me through this, Raelan Agle, interviewed Dan Neuffer who founded the ANS Rewire programme. Definitely worth a watch kzbin.info/www/bejne/rXvPc52CgZyrfa8 I think for me long covid has been exasperated by the fact that I was chronically stressed, and learning to reduce my anxiety has certainly been the most helpful tool (along with pacing) in reducing my fatigue. May start with one of these programmes soon, look forward to finding out how you get on !

[@RUNDMC1]

Thank you Hannah!

[@ncangie]

This is spot on! I'm going to a Covid Clinic and I've done my share of research. If anyone wants to understand their symptoms after Covid, they should study the Autonomic Nervous System. Stress is horrible on Long Covid patients and even activities that are enjoyable, yet cause the body to work harder than normal. Knowing your limit of activity is so important. Long Covid is like getting a new body that doesn't want to cooperate. 😔

[@RUNDMC1]

Let us know how you get on with the clinic Angela!

[@ncangie]

@@RUNDMC1 I certainly will. They have me in speech therapy now for memory and I'll be going to PT for vestibular issues. My daughter is getting treated for POTS and they are saying she hopefully will get better with time. That's what we keep pushing for! 🙏

[@headfullofmusic422]

@@ncangie has her pots improved? i was 90% healed of long covid after horrendous 11 months including my post-viral pots that disappeared. then i took the second vaccine pfeizer a week ago and all my long covid symptoms came back in its full glory, including pots :( and im crying like crazy...i know it will pass, but i just dont have the strength to do this another 11 months...

[@ncangie]

@@headfullofmusic422 I hate to hear you are back to square one. Her symptoms come and go. She has metoprolol on hand for when her heart starts to speed up, or palpitate. I've noticed if she stays busy it helps her a lot. She still gets very fatigued at times. It's definitely a challenge and not one I wish on anyone.

[@daisychain914]

@Head fullofmusic avoid anti biotics in the future too unless absolutely necessary .. actually anything from pharma .. unless you have no other choice

[@richardmock3198]

Cheers jez 😁👍 I’ve been doing weekly 36hr fasts , these are not easy but I would say I’m getting a small percentage better each week, fast number four coming up this weekend 😁 now back to your video , I lost my mum to cancer four months before I caught covid, and I’m positive that effected my covid out come , so like you I’m getting more and more positive about getting each day done with the limited energy I have and working towards better days in the future, I’m going to the gym once a week , I still can’t train but I’m just giving my brain a reminder that we will be back to it at some point , NO RETREAT!! NO SURRENDER!! 😂👍

[@RUNDMC1]

That’s the spirit Richard! Very sorry to hear about your Mum - hope you’re coping ok. Don’t underestimate the power that that level of grief can have. I lost my mum four years ago and still feel it daily.

[@Ingridh98]

Fasting is definitely working for myself as well. Slowly but surely we will get better!

[@pindakaas42]

Please be kind to yourself. This guy is selling this pseudo science here, RUN-DMC even admits it's not even tested in randomized control trials, but already on sale. Google Pacing, it's really the only thing that helps. Don't push yourself. Good luck.

[@nomebear]

Fasting and avoiding histamine triggering foods has been the key for me. But, after both vaccinations of the Pfizer I'm still dealing with nephropathy issues. Meditation, mindfulness, light exercise, and a clean diet have made a difference. I continue with supplements that support the NAD+ and mast cells. I'm investigating mitochondrial toxicity and making efforts to reestablish a healthier mitochondrial functioning and improve my overall level of health. The antioxidant cocktail is taken once or twice daily: Coenzyme Q-10 50mg Alpha lipoic acid 200mg Acetyl-L-carnitine 500mg N-acetyl-cysteine 600mg

[@petinapowers2869]

Never give up!

[@neverseenblue11]

I have dysautonomia from covid :( I hope it goes away someday. I want my life back!

[@Beekind799]

message me i will give you the protocol to regain your health,your weak immune system cant expel the virus,i will type the safe protocol out if requested,you will regain your health in a week

[@dyancautiver7574]

@@Beekind799 i wanna know too, how to message you?

[@crystalwiser5980]

I might as well I'm a long hauler and have had so many tests done over it already had covid 8 months ago

[@Beekind799]

@@crystalwiser5980 take 18mg ivermectin and 50mg zinc for 4 days in a row that will safely end covid and long covid and all other post viral conditions,if you cant get ivm and zinc take 2 x 1000mg caps liposomal vit c every hour for 12 hours a day do that each day till all symptoms have gone both these methods will safely end long covid and covid ,your weak immune system cant expel virus particles from your system thats keeping you sick either of these methods will work , this is your immune system what got you in trouble low glutathione levels ,low vit a levels and low vit d levels thats a weak immune system that cant expel virus particles and can only use cytokine storms,they can kill you,after taking the ivm and zinc or the high doses of liposomal vit c take this its packed to the rafters with the stuff your immune system needs to work properly 2 x 600mg caps n.a.c.morn/eve this safely raises your critical glutathione levels - 1 x 1000mg caps cod liver oil morn/eve - 2 x 750mg caps beef liver extract morn/eve - 2 cloves [ not garlic] i have healed 1000s of post viral conditions, good luck

[@Beekind799]

@@dyancautiver7574 you can message me right here,are you a covid long hauler, this condition is easily healed if you want me to type out the protocol what 1000s are using to safely regain their health,remember now i do this for free to help people

[@earlhickey1557]

When i hear Gupta talking and putting out his claims the way he does, with his single case examples, all my alarms go on, screaming scam. After checking the online price it became worse. That does not mean his aproach is not going to work. I think he just put several known widely ignored techniques that may work for some longhaulers together and made an expensive online course out of it. He did not give much usefull advice like other doctors or therapists do, all you can do is buy the expensive package and see yourself. All in all he sounds to me much more like a salesman than a doctor or someone who honestly wants to help. I will check out Wim Hof breathing method next, its free or you can buy his book. Have a nice day everyone.

[@RUNDMC1]

Hi Earl, he’s been using this method to treat chronic illness for almost 15 years - it’s not a scam or something put together quickly to capitalise on the situation. Even if you don’t want to join the program I think there’s something all of us can take away from this line of thinking regarding limbic system dysfunction. And agreed, have a good day everyone!

[@oliviarabossit2826]

I am actually doing the program it’s not a scam! The program only cost $250 which is way cheaper than all the vitamins I have bought in the last 6 months! I have been doing the program for 1 month and I walked for 20 min this week for the first time when I have been bed ridden for 3 months taking tons of pills which did nothing!

[@oliviarabossit2826]

I want to add also that most of these technique had been explained to me by my therapist also who doesn’t even know about this program. Neuroplasticity is known and have been proven, it’s not something that juts comes out of nowhere, the Gupta program presents it in a more easier way to understand and guides you instead of being completely on your own

[@earlhickey1557]

@@RUNDMC1 I am doing the Wim Hof breathing for almost a week now and it feels awesome. My resting heartrate came down nicely and i feel kinda relaxed. And would not have started this without you and Gupta, so i defenitely took away something from your video. Thanks a lot for all your work and have a nice day!

[@RUNDMC1]

Earl Hickey That’s great Earl, and was the only intention!

[@BizzleByron]

Got yourself a post lockdown haircut I see 😁

[@RUNDMC1]

And what an improvement it is!

[@DeniseTG13]

Looks great!

[@truthseeker6688]

@@RUNDMC1 long covid is a leaky gut syndrome. A doctor in pakistan is treating people long covid by prescribing them proton pump inhobitor like pantaprazole, eatung honey and yougurt in morning, eating raw onion and garlic with rice veggies, avoiding gluten, sugar, fast food, using olive oil etc. And people are healing in about 1 month of doing this

[@kikipocalypse]

PTSD is definitelly a complicating factor. Thanks for this (first symptoms march 12, 2020) your videos have been so helpful this year

[@RUNDMC1]

It’s a pleasure.

[@candyland8903]

Same! I wish I found your channel last year when I was battling this and being dismissed from ever dr u went to. I was dizzy every single day and have had complex ptsd for years so I have always been prone to trigger my panic response very easily. And June 2020 i started having hours long panic attacks where my bp would get so irregular and high and the monitor would register an irregular heartbeat. Last time I went into the ER (nov2020) my bp was 157/53 and respiration was 26. They dismissed me saying it was just a panic attack but panic attacks don't last for 4-6 hours straight with no relief. I was having cold sweats and tingling in my limbs. They kept cramping up and twitching. I was throwing up and had diarrhea with horrible stomach pains. Slight fever. I made them do a basic chem panel cuz since the first time I went in to the ER of june2020 i kept getting hypokalemic and my electrolytes would get unbalanced. Ended up showing i was very low in potassium. So they gave me a potassium pill and sent me home. Didn't get better till I got a new Dr that actually listened to what I was going thru. He didn't make the long haul post viral connection. But he did recognize it wasn't just anxiety. I stopped drinking coffee, consuming sugar in large amts, and started supplementing magnesium, potassium, and other supplements/minerals i was deficient in. I went to an energy healer also and within a month I was feeling back to normal. Now months later, i started to consume coffee again and stopped supplementing and I'm starting to notice all the symptoms coming back even after doing breathing exercises, especially the dizziness. That is always my biggest symptom which then triggers my panic response due to an over active amygdala. I even told my first dr that maybe my ptsd is what is causing these panic attacks to come on our of no where and last so long cuz I am prone to getting stuck in the sympathetic mode, and she flat out told me no. Finding your videos last year could have saved me so much suffering.

[@adelemain6374]

Watched with great interest your presentations on dysautonomia. I had this in 1965 post viral infection, after a year or so, mostly recovered, then it recurred again in about 1968 after severe Epstein Barr infection. Recovered enough to finish my university study, but with great attention to pacing , and many trials of exercise, vitamin supplements, and so on. Now, in 2021, my history inludes 2 primary cancers with chemotherapy, and several years of brain fog after each one. A lot of time feeling stupid and unproductive. BUT so far, with great care no Covid! I still have the symptoms of cfs-me, but want sufferers to know that, though it can relapse after overdoing anything, one can have a good life. I am delighted to see that dysautonomia is now being taken seriously, an sincerely hope that sufferers, (whether of cfsme or long covid), can get relief of at least some of the worse effects, much sooner than what was available in the past!

[@eaqua56]

Thank you so much for your content! I wonder if you could possibly explore GI issues related to covid? Not sure if you have already have but it would be awesome if it could be explored.

[@RK-tp5np]

GI issues are definitely an issue with long haul Covid. The GI system is part of the autonomic system. When there’s a dysautonomic dysfunction then you will most likely have GI issues like - Nausea, Gastro Paresis…

[@markstaud]

I’m certain I got Long Term COVID because of a Chronic Yeast Infection.

[@jaynebailey]

I have had gi symptoms for 2 years 2 days after second physer vac horrible always diarea

[@chipichipichapachapa733]

I think it's very important to not to identify as a "sick person", to not let it become or replace your identity - to still find things that bring a spark in your eyes (something that's not tiring, at first). I've discovered this only recently I've also found that Ashwagandha is very helpful. It just calms the nervous system down and improves the quality of sleep for me.

[@RUNDMC1]

Completely agree

[@santoshingle3989]

One of the most underrated channel

[@RUNDMC1]

Thank you 👍

[@airla-sophia]

I think run DMT throws people off.

[@airla-sophia]

Opps! I meant Run DMC 😆

[@nor6759]

I am afraid that this is targeting vulnerable long Covid sufferers to pay significant amounts in the hope of getting better. Some people do recover naturally and these could be the people mentioned in the case studies. This guy had M.E. mostly men do recover from M.E. You are dealing with very vulnerable people here so it is irresponsible to plug a solution which is a commercial venture.

[@RUNDMC1]

Disagree. Also if you watch the film you’ll see in the conclusion I don’t recommend people sign up, I say here’s the information and make their own minds up. And if they’d rather not, there’s a bunch of lessons we can take from this thinking that can help us for free.

[@nor6759]

The title is “How to treat Long Covid”. This is an authoritative statement and an endorsement.

[@jhayes]

All good comments and responses. As always, I so appreciate these videos. They have been a major factor in my ability to manage my long haul symptoms thus far. Yes, agreed, Gupta’s offering a packaged product as a possible solution was slightly off-putting, but this was treated well and it was not hard to set it aside if I needed to and glean important info. I was very interested in the sympathetic/parasympathetic system impacts and the connection with high stress levels pre Covid and a low tolerance for it now. Look forward to learning more. Many thanks again.

[@RUNDMC1]

N Or The title is how to treat dysautonomia in long covid. If you have some other treatments effective for treating dysautonomia please do set up your own channel, do the research and present.

[@nor6759]

@@RUNDMC1 your comment is extremely defensive . you said above that you didn’t recommend it, as I said the title shows that you do. There is no known treatment for long Covid we are all trying everything we can. This does not mean that it is ok to target vulnerable people and endorse an expensive programme. M.E. patients who have run out of hope have been targeted with these scams for years because they have been ignored by mainstream medicine. .

[@jarrodmurphy9783]

Colds showers or baths has been the go to treatment for post covid dysautonomia in my neck of the woods and has seen great success…

[@ingadarcy6988]

Yes, cold stimulates the vagus nerve. I used cold showers to heal from ME/CFS after a virus, along with using the Gupta program and homeopathics. I also used breathing - pranayama - to calm the vagus.

[@alexc7857]

cold exercises the endothelium and circulative muscles and if those are creating a "dysautonomia like" symptoms that may well also explain

[@Zayday1993]

Can one just jump in the pool instead would that be equivalent cold showers are disgusting lol

[@devongonzalez2422]

I think the proposed phenomenon mentioned by Dr. Gupta could be exacerbating long COVID symptoms for sure but it's important to treat his explanation as one plausible interpretation rather than automatically subscribing to it as the primary mechanism.

[@eleanorclub]

💯

[@powerpuffnyc]

How can I retrain my brain to get rid of COPD, ground glass, lung fibrosis, emphysema, Lupus - all acquired after COVID in March 2020? I was formerly healthy, didn’t need any medication, never a smoker, active lifestyle. Still have perfect biomarkers, perfect A1C, perfect CRP, BMI 18. Never went to the hospital, never was in an ICU, but my lungs are destroyed by COVID. Should I keep meditating?....

[@RUNDMC1]

Yes keep meditating - maybe do try the Gupta program’s free trial and see if it suits you

[@michaelday5605]

My personal case of hypothyroidism and thyroid antibodies triggered by covid is due to leaky gut syndrome I suspect. Essentially the proteins in all of the dairy and gluten that I was eating look like thyroid proteins to my immune system so it got trained to attack them. I know I had leaky gut because as soon as I cut those things out of my diet all of my allergies went away, and once I went on the Candida diet I had a massive herxheimer reaction. I suspect with the Candida and leaky gut fixed, my thyroid antibodies will disappear over the next few years. If you have leaky gut, the proteins from anything that you eat will end up in your bloodstream, and you will develop antibodies to them, and any tissue that looks similar to those proteins.

[@creatingwithangie1111]

Very helpful information, thank you. I feel like we intuitively know this is happening within our thought process but just don’t understand how or when is the time to stop or slow the fearful thoughts before it gets the better of us. You have done some awesome research 🧐

[@RUNDMC1]

Thank you!

[@GL1FE]

This makes so much sense that habits shape chronic illness. Speaking from experience (Crohn’s disease , IBD etc…)this program sounds so good 😊 that I’m trying it especially now that I have debilitating LC symptoms. Your channel is so helpful. Can you discuss maybe the effects the virus may have had on the vagus nerve? It’s probably not widely accepted as theory that the vagus nerve has implications with LC but it might be worth looking into ! Leah

[@daniellr8509]

Did you tried the program?How did it go?

[@celticviolaandfiddle]

Another piece to the puzzle and another mini-breakthrough thanks to Gez Mendiger, the Sherlock Holmes of Long-covid!

[@Beekind799]

nope its nonsense ,covid and long covid is easily healed ,their weak immune system cant expel virus particles thats whats keeping them sick,i have healed 1000s all over the world,i designed a protocol its the fastest safest method to regain your health,takes about a week

[@RUNDMC1]

Thanks but you do realise that’s not how it’s spelt? 🤣

[@itsjudystube]

@@Beekind799 so tell us about it

[@Beekind799]

@@itsjudystube are you a covid long hauler,would you like me to type out the protocol so you can regain your health,so tell us about it wont cut it with me

[@itsjudystube]

@@Beekind799 exactly. That is what I mean. I had covid 20 March 2020. I have long Covid that has worsened in the last three months. It would be great if you would post the protocol on here. Thank you x

[@jesusmaster2983]

Anyone having mostly symptoms in the evening/ early morning? I suffer mostly from heart palpitations, strong anxiety which makes it impossible to sleep. Morning are also dreadful. But it goes better in the day…maybe linked to cortisol fluctuations disturbances? I suffered from adrenal fatigue a few years ago, and I was always worse in the night/morning. This is where my cortisol would be sky high

[@RUNDMC1]

Have a watch of my recent film with Dr Tompkins - this is classic HPA axis inversion

[@nicolaferreira396]

While there may be some merit to this whole training neuroplasticity aspect of dysautonomia I feel like reducing it to this is not taking into consideration a variety of other aspects which seem to have separate reasonings for working. Anecdotally I have seen people say that they have fully recovered using fasting, some using thiamine supplementation, rarer few using ivermectin or fluvoxamine, so on so on. A lot of the explanations that favor why some of these works contradict others so I do believe this is a very case by case situation.

[@RUNDMC1]

Hence the jigsaw puzzle I talk about in the film!

[@janeathome6643]

This would explain why the vaccine (second shot) brought all my symptoms roaring back, when they had finally started to quiet down in January. The second shot gave me the really severe flu-like symptoms for two days and after within 48 hours, the auto-immune inflammatory response was back on line.

[@RazmiWellness]

I think that I had covid 3 times! First in March 2020 and had long haul symptoms all summer and fall and then got it AGAIN in December and it made most of my symptoms disappear! Now I caught delta last month and I'm back to long hauling again. :(

[@daniellr8509]

did you try it?how did it went

[@kathycannon4805]

Our bodies are not adapted to our rapidly changing environment. They aren’t meant to function under the stress level we have manufactured for ourselves.

[@alexandrecouture2462]

Oh I'm not so sure about this video.

[@RUNDMC1]

Have you actually watched it?

[@alexandrecouture2462]

@@RUNDMC1 Yes I did watch it.

[@pindakaas42]

@@alexandrecouture2462 Just retrain your brain man. Look at Dr. Tamsin Lewis website www.wellgevity.com/covid seems as legit as Ashok Guptas stuff, who has been found advertising false claims of healing people before btw.

[@faith_over_fear8896]

He nailed it. Exactly the thinking I've had for Months

[@katcihealer]

Thank you so much. I am struggling to understand what is happening to me.

[@samikassou2944]

I'm open to the idea of this being a now POTS sufferer from Covid. I would like to see some independent results from the programme. Of course all of the stories on his website are going to be success stories. I'm part of plenty of POTS groups on FB and this type of therapy Is all over the US and has been for some time so its not really a silver bullet. There's also many reasons why a person may get POTS. It could just be a messed up nervous system, however there are lots of studies going on now which are unearthing POTS as an autoimmune issue too.

[@Beekind799]

i think its caused by leaking gut syndrome,food particles get into the blood through the holes in the gut that makes the immune system go haywire ,take a heaped tea spoon of slippery elm bark powder in a glass of warm water 15minutes before food,it takes about ten days for the holes in the gut to heal,end of pots,end of auto immune problems

[@fabulousdoc]

Its all about consistency and commitment - this is not a fix but a methodology and changing your lifestyle - to reduce stress reactivity.

[@patriciabryant8892]

@@fabulousdoc You make some g8 points Tasmin - thank u - do you have pots & how are u now?

[@01maggie]

Please try Lemon balm herb calms central nervous system and add Ashwaghanda herb..this nourishes the adrenal gland. When palpitations started I take both at same time and it calms it down

[@ingadarcy6988]

i had POTS along with CFS/ME after a virus. the naturopath said she'd never seen anyone with such dramatic blood pressure fluctuations on standing form sitting I also had digestion problems, SIBO etc. I used the Gupta program to retrain my brain, as well as homeopathics from a medical doctor /homeopath in India, and supplements, cold showers and pranayama to calm the vagus nerve. The POTS went away after about 6 months and the CFS/ME started getting better after i started the Gupta program and the homeopathics - started them at the same time so i can't say which had hte greatest effect. The SIBO also cleared up. Homeopaths in India are all medical doctors as well and the one i consulted runs a hospital. I highly recommend homeopathics and also the Gupta Program really helped.

[@Astburysring]

I have tried to watch a selection of theories behind the symptoms of LC, and this is the best so far for explaining of what’s going on. It doesn’t say what the ongoing cause is ie. is this a viral protein or even virus replicating within the gut etc etc . Often my body feels like it wants to switch off or close down and then followed by a reaction to that of increased heart beat, inflammation, fatigue etc. POTs now added on to my Post Covid Diagnosis and of course this is all part of the autonomic nervous system. The only problem with this then becomes that the physical symptoms we all experience are now just “in our heads” ! That’s going to take some thought changes....we’d all like to blame something more physical. We now just need specialists to collaborate with others and share their findings so a working treatment(s) can be given to the whole LC population.

[@pauldavid167]

You have described me. Hospitalised 5 times with “long covid” and doctors dismissing me. I had normal covid but collapsed after a dog bite then an ear infection. 6 weeks later? Brain fog, nightmares, out of body experience, hallucinations, shattered, fatigue. Like Dr Gupta says, if I walk 200 yards then excersise wrecks my system. I have photophobia and can’t talk, watch TV etc. typing this will trigger revolting nausea. I have nausea everyday. It’s hell.

[@RUNDMC1]

I’m so sorry Paul - that’s horrific :(

[@pauldavid167]

@@RUNDMC1 Thank you.

[@User98681]

@@pauldavid167 how are you doing now Paul?

[@aidanpaul-bz2ii]

Fantastic stuff Gez! This explanation for long covid has really struck a chord and seems to make sense in my head. I’m recently ‘back to work’ (light and reduced hours) and stopping every hour or so to practice deep breathing has definitely been helping. Thank you for all the hard work, these videos have been a godsend 👍🏻

[@RUNDMC1]

It’s a pleasure Aidan, glad to hear you’re improving.

[@daniellr8509]

did you try it?how did it went

[@kellyberry4173]

Thank you so much. Kept this to show husband. Thank you for helping him understand how I feel. We've had our first vaccine. Thank you 💜

[@Anamaria-ew8lh]

Thank you Gez! Im happy that you considered neuroscience important in recovery. The brain is the master! I love dr. Gupta. His own rehabilitation inspired me to recover myself. P.S.: Nice haircut! 😉

[@RUNDMC1]

The haircut has made me feel lighter just by itself :)

[@Conquerchronicillness]

Great channel!! Thank you so much for all that your putting out in the world. Do you have any videos on the Vax making CFS/Long Covid worse? I haven't had COVID, but the 4th booster has me suffering 3 months later with moderate CFS/Long haulers.

[@RUNDMC1]

Yes - go through my list of videos - I deal with the vaccine impact in a couple of them!

[@laurapip666]

Cheers Gez & co. Interesting info yet again.. identify with the stuff about the stress triggers as I was just saying the other day about how afraid I was to fall asleep when I had covid itself badly, as I wasn't sure I'd wake up -& I'm now suffering insomnia as well as other symptoms.. so would make sense unfortunately.. I've studied psychology & my Dad now teaches mindfulness for the NHS so I've got a little insight in that side of things too.. It's my birthday today though, & wasn't sure I'd make my last one.. so much positivity on this side of things -much love to everyone! ❤️

[@RUNDMC1]

Happy Birthday Laura!

[@laurapip666]

@@RUNDMC1 Thank you!! 🥳

[@karlameadows548]

It seems a lot of the symptoms associated with long COVID are very similar to hypothyroidism. A family member contracted Guillen Barre after a flu shot in the 1970's. Working with an endocrinologist, they started on thyroxine and their symptoms of arthralgias, fatigue, problems sleeping, anxiety, etc... abated. Viruses cause trauma, massive cell death, and these post viral symptoms.

[@zentamm]

Very similar to virtually any symptom for any illness. Literally ANYTHING.

[@michaelday5605]

I actually developed hypothyroidism immediately after my covid case. My TSH levels were normal pre-covid and clinical hypothyroidism post covid. My thyroid antibody levels were at 135. I've been taking Synthroid for quite some time now and the long covid is definitely not gone. Synthroid does not really help anything. Post exertional malaise still happens, and the tissue hypoxia in the presence of 100% blood oxygen saturation still happens. The Synthroid actually makes me jittery, which makes the condition even worse. You think you have energy so you might go for a fast walk, then end up with tissue hypoxia in all your muscles causing free radical damage, and then more post-exertional malaise. Caffeine and cocoa have the same effect. Giving yourself a boost of energy is very bad until you can solve the oxygen transport issue.

[@chrisduncan3943]

The Gupta program seems similar to the DARE (Defuse, Allow, Run Toward, Engage) program that treats panic and anxiety. It retrains the brain as well and in fact is thought to calm down the amygdala. Dr. Claire Weekes in the 1960s was probably the first person to use these techniques to treat nervous system disorders.

[@RUNDMC1]

Very interesting!

[@mouhammadaburasheed8131]

Thanks for this video. These methods might work for some cases, but I think the whole picture is more complicated. At least for those who feel recovered after being vaccinated, although the vaccine will remind the brain that the body is in danger, they are getting better after it. I am quite pessimistic that we will be stuck into statistics for another two years until finding a quite thorough answer. Stay safe ✌🏻

[@Kelsterinio]

Uhhh is anyone else falling head over heels in love with this man? 😂😂 Thank you SO MUCH for your commitment to helping and healing our community, Gez! To be seen, understood, and prioritized as a long hauler is a profound gift ❤️

[@RUNDMC1]

Haha, thank you Kelly!

[@juliegill9322]

Me!

[@MK-co6uf]

The Gupta program is known for their affiliate marketing program. They are known scammers (www.asa.org.uk/rulings/harley-street-solutions-ltd-a17-400324.html) in the ME/CFS community. Please do not fall for the psychological scams from private businesses. They see COVID as a massive business opportunity.

[@caryn9561]

Covid caused me a very bad sickness my sternum is swollen won't go away and my chest hurts for almost 2 months now.

[@5avan10]

Case studies are nice and all, but I want to see scientific data. I am sure some people will find some benefit from this type of program, but my concern is that those who don't will feel left behind or even somehow to blame for their continued illness.

[@RUNDMC1]

That’s why there’s 3 RCTs in progress at the moment in addition to the one on FM published last year

[@jayswitzer9871]

He uses a standard multilevel marketing web page design. But kudos for at least allowing free access without asking for a credit card number. i don't agree with his statement that people already have a preconceived notion about covid and we are subconsciously catastrophising , I never got the memo and I'm having issues at week 4. the fatigue is not getting better it seems to be setting in and making itself known as a long term guest.

[@RUNDMC1]

Best of luck with your recovery Jay

[@jopainting1668]

Yes, I was very disappointed with this video. Shady characters more than willing to mess with people's heads and wallets. This is not what we need. I will need to avoid content like this and focus elsewhere for my own psychological, emotional and physical safety. People like this do not belong in these groups as we've always been gaslit and used by them for decades.

[@mq46312]

No disrepect but I am afraid of the direction in which these video are going. I hope that one day in the future you won't be declaring that you are cured by positive thinking that Paul Garner did, and as a result implying just like Garner did that it's all in our heads. Don't get me wrong, I do hope that you recover soon, as I hope for everyone including myself.

[@RUNDMC1]

Hi there. Don’t make the mistake of confusing the mind with the brain! It’s absolutely not ‘all in our heads’ but our brain is hugely implicated in the inflammatory response that’s at the root of many long covid symptoms. The role our mind has in all this is minor - but it doesn’t hurt to have a holistic approach and appreciate that negative thinking can impact on your recovery.

[@MK-co6uf]

The Gupta program is known for their affiliate marketing program. They are known scammers (www.asa.org.uk/rulings/harley-street-solutions-ltd-a17-400324.html) in the ME/CFS community. Please do not fall for the psychological scams from private businesses. They see COVID as a massive business opportunity.

[@valeriemcdonald440]

This is very interesting!

[@metanoiabooks3729]

My brain was screwed going into this with the pre stress and pre trauma. Bexause boy has that been my life story.

[@fabulousdoc]

So your nervous system and hence immune system are primed to over-react. You can re-write your story, its not easy but it can be done. I've been following @drjoedispenza work for sometime. Maybe worth considering one of his retreats at some point.

[@jenwendy7]

Yep me too

[@mjenks85]

Exactly what I'm going through but get ignored since I never had a positive. Had covid before tests were available and my immune system has been going crazy since

[@lizeveleigh]

Great video, I’m sure there is something in this. I’ve been doing the STASIS breathing programme (as it’s free!) for 7 weeks now and noticed a big difference. My heart rate variability has improved loads. Thanks for all your work 😊

[@shamama13]

Stasis week 4. No longer having dizziness, shortness of breath, low BP and orthostatic changes, and some extra stamina. So far it has made the biggest impact. Still having PEM though. Have to make sure to pace.

[@RUNDMC1]

Great to hear that Liz!

[@raloufen4292]

What is status program

[@lizeveleigh]

@@raloufen4292 sorry- just spotted this reply- stasis is a structured breath work programme - ive found it super useful and really interesting to learn the science behind it. They have specific covid recovery programs 😀 stasisperformance.com/

[@patriciabryant8892]

@@shamama13 - Great to hear you have improved - did you have pots like symptoms - also interested to see how far along the line your u are?

[@claireunderwood471]

I was a sceptic of these brain retraining programs but eventually, after a year, I had tried everything else with little success. I’ve recently started the Gupta program and I’m finding it helpful. I think you have to be in the right place in your recovery to start something like this, having learnt some lessons along the way. Did you do the Gupta Program Gez? Did you see some improvement?

[@RUNDMC1]

I found the focus on meditation and rest helpful!

[@frcfun8328]

It is worth reminding that most post-viral syndrome patients recover spontaneously within the first year. Thus, the claims that one program has a higher rate of success if done early could be entirely due to this fact. I would suggest to carry out a RCT of these techniques on patients who have been ill for more than 2 years, when the chances of recovery are very slim (we will get there unfortunatelly). Also, both the interviewee sell their products, which is a potential conflict of interest and makes their claims dubious (to say the least).

[@RUNDMC1]

Yes the Gupta program is being ‘sold’, so to speak, but I think I present it’s merits and the remaining questions in an objective way. Dr Lewis isn’t selling anything!

[@frcfun8328]

@@RUNDMC1 Gez, you are an intelligent and well educated man, I'm sure you know that "selling" has many shapes. Offering "Expert guidance to relieve symptoms" and writing "Long Covid Recovery - Introductory Offer: £15 per month" can be regarded as "selling" I believe. And if these methods are not proven (specifically for these illnesses at least), I see a bit of a problem there. But please, don't get me wrong, I appreciate the investigative work you are doing on Long Covid. My worry is that this could be an opportunity for unscrupulous "experts" to exploit desperate patients. Of course we want answers, and even more, solutions right now. Unfortunately what we want is not always possible and unfortunately it's not with quick and simple shortcuts (eg. psicologisation or somatisation used way too much by doctors to gaslight "problematic" patients) that we will solve this crisis. PS. Very interesting you get better using corticosteroids. I would love if you could make a video specifically on that topic, even speculative (as long as you mention that it's speculative, of course) about the underlying hypotheses :)

[@RUNDMC1]

Frc Fun Quick one on steroids - they (a) reduce systemic inflammation (which is a key driver of long covid symptoms), and (b) help the adrenals deliver the necessary cortisol/adrenaline etc for activity (as that axis has been downgraded - if we assume the HPA results for ME apply to Long Covid too)

[@travisstreeter5092]

Great research. Let me know how you do on the program!

[@RUNDMC1]

Thanks Travis!

[@joannakozma6074]

Hi I am writing from Poland, thanks for your videos, I am long covid hauler, and have all of these symptoms since december,

[@RUNDMC1]

Thank you Joanna - hope you’re making progress in your recovery!

[@harryboby7563]

Very interesting video, certainly think this is a piece of the puzzle. However, I do think there are other parts that need to be addressed e.g viral persistence, inflammation in the immune system etc. As you mentioned, I think Bruce Patterson is onto something in his studies and treatment!

[@RUNDMC1]

Hi Harry - there’s a good chance that viral persistence or debris is present in the vast majority of recovers from COVID - the difference in long covid is the way we react to them, and it’s this that creates the symptoms. Hence in a way, the viral persistence/debris doesn’t really matter - we just need to get ourselves to the place of those others who have recovered, whether some virus or debris lingers or not.

[@harryboby7563]

@@RUNDMC1 What’s your opinion on the differing inflammatory cytokine panel that presents in long haulers as per Dr Patterson’s research? Would you argue this response is all from the sympathetic nervous system?

[@RUNDMC1]

Harry Boby the question is what’s causing this inflammatory immune response - what’s switching it on? I think there’s a very good chance it’s limbic system dysfunction

[@harryboby7563]

@@RUNDMC1 Very true, am going to give the Gupta program a go and put my all into it, can’t do any harm can it!

[@elwayen20]

@@harryboby7563 Only the money spent on it... If it's a mindfulness program, I believe you can do this by your own.

[@j_peg762]

It’s starting to make more sense because when I got sick with COVID I got over the actual virus in 2 days but when I got my test results back 2 days later literally within minutes I started feeling everything all at once chest pain , shortness of breath , Brian fog and it’s been constant and seems to get worse when I’m working because I can feel all of the inflammation it’s just like he said my body thinks I’m still sick with the virus but then again the voice in the back of my head thinks this guys is just trying to make a few bucks but I hope that’s not the case.

[@danamarie7993]

I’ve been meditating and eating properly and going inwardly very deep even prior to this syndrome. As of now, all that has helped a bit, is the antihistamine protocol, it is a piece of the puzzle . I’ve had Graves’ disease and a thyroid ablation after my preemie was born 13 years ago. It was extremely difficult but I made it. This is a completely different beast. I did just take a urine OATS test and amino acid urine test. Waiting on results. I would assume people who have no “practice” would benefit but there are plenty of free videos on KZbin if you can’t afford this program. Mindfulness and breathing and learning to let go of who you thought you were are all helpful mentally. But none of these have helped the physical ailments which I believe is viral persistence. If we can eliminate that.... the body would heal itself. honestly a few red flags went up when I heard that Dr. Gupta was an economics major. But if he is offering 28 day free trial and if you have no mindfulness or pranayama practice.... it can’t hurt. Wishing everyone good luck.

[@RUNDMC1]

Good luck to you too Dana :) Ashok might have been an economics major but that doesn’t mean he doesn’t know his stuff! I am an engineer after all 😊

[@rhyothemisprinceps1617]

I agree about this type of practice not necessarily being extremely effective for everyone and also am suspicious of viral persistence (though it could just be a long- lasting immune dysregulation) . However, I think that people with non-medical backgrounds can provide valuable insights - so for me Dr Gupta being an econ major does not factor in that much. There are a lot of MDs that don't seem to know a darned thing about this or similar conditions. Conversely, I have seen a number of people with engineering backgrounds provide valuable contributions to biomedical research - hence I have a YT playlist called 'Biomedical Talks for Engineers' that I hope will draw more engineers into the field. On the flip side, I think people with life sciences backgrounds can make contributions to engineering and design though application of biomimicry.

[@faith_over_fear8896]

What did your results say

[@jopainting1668]

Agreed, to be honest this was one of my least favorite videos on this channel. I really don't trust either of the guests and I get shady vibes from them.

[@kristabel71]

This information is eye opening and so helpful, thank you and Dr Gupta. This explains so much about my symptoms. I did not have covid but my panic disorder has taken over since I received the booster a month ago, and I'm reacting badly to all sorts of foods, medications, having insomnia, fatigue etc. This gives me hope. Best wishes to all who are struggling!

[@StephanieAlice]

A lot of us are getting uncontrollable adrenaline (ie “panic attacks” for the first time ever..)food sensitivities, neuralgia and all the “long covid” symptoms after the V. I collapsed 5mins after it and no one believed me or helped me. Took me 5months to figure out it’s the nervous system and then aha! Autonomic nervous system. Let’s HOPE this is as treatable as long covid. Thank you for the vid!

[@xiaoyichen177]

How you feel now? How is your insomnia?

[@xiaoyichen177]

@@StephanieAlice me too.

[@daniellr8509]

did you try it?how did it went

[@minituremarvels]

I made a comment a while back on experimenting with water fasting to combat my Long Covid. I was suffering with debilitating fatigue and PEM that would leave me unable to do the laundry. Breathlessness, the lot. Life felt on hold for the best part of a year. I did a 3 day water fast (with salt/electrolytes), and can now happily say my condition is cured. Resolved 95% within a week of the fast, brief minor recurrence of very mild fatigue for a few days here and there, now 100% gone. Just a case of rebuilding strength and cardio now. Can do full strength training sessions as per pre Covid, no PEM to speak of. I’d highly recommend people to try this, with proper research and advice from a doctor. Any questions, I’ll do my best to help. May everyone recover as fast as possible. Cheers 🙂

[@Conquerchronicillness]

@minituremarvels Any link for step by step directions?

[@minituremarvels]

@@Conquerchronicillness Hi there, I didn't follow a specific protocol. I simply stopped eating for about 72 hrs , and only drank water or black tea/coffee during that time. I also took essential electrolytes; this is key to getting through the fast as you will likely feel very uncomfortable and have to stop otherwise. You need to take salt (sodium chloride), magnesium, potassium, calcium. Be very careful with the potassium as you can overdose it. A guy called Rob Wolf has a good article online about dosages for electrolytes during a fast. During the fast you can just take it easy, read, go for light walks, meditate etc. It kicks off the autophagic processes in the body, which is what I believe cured my long covid. Any questions let me know.

[@minituremarvels]

@@ConquerchronicillnessFrom the Rob Wolf link (note this is not specific to fasting, this worked for me but you may wish to do further research): "In general, you should be consuming 5,000mg of sodium; 1,000mg of potassium, ideally in the form of potassium chloride or potassium citrate; and 300mg of magnesium, preferably in the form of magnesium malate every day, in addition to what you get from dietary sources. "

[@Conquerchronicillness]

@@minituremarvels Thank you so much for taking the time to reply! Appreciate it and have heard alot of similar things so notes taken!

[@daniellr8509]

Wow,I tried a two days water fast but I wasnt able to sleep the second day so I only lasted 48 hours...Didnt feel any improvement though,did you noticed some improvement on 48 hours?I am 18 and have been completely fucked for the last two years because of covid, have tried a lot of thing but none of them have worked, what are your thoughts, do you think I should maybe do 72 hours?Thanks for taking the time of writing this

[@cassidyroell7287]

Any idea how this plays a part in the histamine intolerance so many of us seem to have as well ? I'm hoping that most of us have SIBO/Leaky Gut which is causing the histamine issue and hoping its not true MCAS (cure vs no cure)- but I'm curious how these two fit together since most of us are being diagnosed with both Histamine Issues and POTS.

[@RUNDMC1]

This is a very good question and one we don’t have a proper answer to yet!

[@michaelday5605]

I can tell you from personal experience that post covid I definitely had leaky gut. I went on a Candida diet (Google it) and experienced a massive Herxeimer reaction has all the Candida died off, followed by the clearance of a foot fungal infection I've had for 5 years. Gluten and dairy can be contributors to the leaky gut because incomplete gluten proteins release a chemical called zonulin which tells your gut cells to open up and just let everything into your bloodstream. At that point you have foreign proteins from all of your food circulating in your bloodstream which causes big histamine reactions. All of my allergies and stuffy nose cleared up once I stopped eating gluten.

[@melanieolmsted6740]

I wonder if Trauma Release Exercise/Yoga would help with Long Haulers?

[@RUNDMC1]

I would imagine it wpuld

[@petinapowers2869]

RUN-DMC Some in the American medical community are dismissing long-covid as mental illness. Therefore, they can prescribe "pills", abandon recommending additional forms of treatment, and invalidate the patient. This is particularly convenient for marginalizating low income patients with lesser quality insurance. I understand some of us may need simultaneous multiple approaches. However, it is difficult to get the treatments. I am still trying though. BTW, you are looking more vibrant!!!

[@mjenks85]

I had long covid since march 2020. Can get anxiety meds and antidepressants but that's about it. Thousands spent on tests and still feel like crap. No help its s joke. Its turning far worse now and no help is available now my 11 year old daughter has all tje same but tests negative and is being told to take zoloft no thank you. Their just letting us suffer really.

[@petinapowers2869]

@@mjenks85 I do see the attempts to endorse this as a mental/emotional issue across the board. It is easier, less expensive, and acceptable to do so. Politicized.

[@mjenks85]

@@petinapowers2869 indeed. Yet doctors can see the physical damage with skin rashes, purple hands feet cold to the touch, discoloration pale face at times high white blood cell counts, and so on. Yet its mental! Makes it more frustrating. I gave up and started tackling this battle on my own! Today I woke up feeling a complete relapse yet I was progressing so far. At this point I will accept death but not without a fight. Thanks for the reply and listening. Good luck to you.

[@mjenks85]

Have to add the only diagnosis I have been giving this whole fiasco cronic fatigue syndrome, anxiety, and depression. I dont believe it's any if those. I would saybits my lose of oxygen to vital organs do to poor circulation over anything.

[@petinapowers2869]

@@mjenks85 Yes! I have researched on my own, followed @RUN-DMC, and only recently joined "support" groups online. After all of these months, I have now decided on a plan of action that I believe will work best for me, my body, my "long-hauler" issues, and my goals. One of the most important lessons I have learned is to give myself permission to stop and rest. Wherever, whenever, in whatever manner is possible in that moment - I rest - without apology. Pacing, and listening to one's body is so very important.

[@louiscervantez1639]

Just checked your vid with Gupta and Dr Lewis, I believe in neuroplastisity. I didn’t realize until,know that I use it to help me with my “accident -3 surgeries later-constant 24/7 pain - Back. I have to convince my brain that it is something other than pain. Doesn’t work when I’m stressed, still needing to take Meds, but it works most of the time. I decided to stop taking Oxy and needed something - Thanks again Gez - by the time I’m thru with your vids and all of the side learning from the topics you bring up - will you confer a University of Medinger degree on me?

[@RUNDMC1]

Haha, that would be the least I can do!

[@mindynewman9362]

Stasis breathing program that is being used at the covid clinic at Mt Sinai In New York is free and has really been helping me. I am wondering what more this course will offer me?

[@RUNDMC1]

I’m glad the breathing program is helping! I think the Gupta program offers some more of the brain retraining aspects through exercises, visualisation, repetition etc

[@mindynewman9362]

@@RUNDMC1 it’s funny I just bought the book “ the brains way of healing” by Norman Doidge MD which is about neuroplasticity. Btw, your looking better, your eyes don’t look so tired...I have had the same look with long covid and it’s getting better too!

[@RUNDMC1]

I think the recent sunshine has helped!

[@jaynebailey]

How long have you had the symtoms I understand now why I get exhausted after my cooking or going to the doctor he has no idea about the symptoms

[@lesliec8069]

Thank you for providing this video and the other videos. I 100% agree with the chosen word “puzzle” and that we each have our own pieces which may fall under similar categories. Another breathing resource that provides visual feedback on the successful rate of your slowed breathing can be found at HeartMath. Thank you again. You look well rested in this video. I’m glad that you are feeling some relief from the application of various strategies and interventions.

[@RUNDMC1]

Thank you Leslie!

[@Ajnas877]

I had covid side effects for a long period , maybe 8 months now I have breathing problems like the wheezing effect and tonsillitis, done lots of tests, but everything normal, plz advise me how to recover from this, really want to get back to my normal life

[@RUNDMC1]

Watch my 10 top tips video

[@endaclifford]

Well done you 👏

[@RUNDMC1]

Thanks Enda!

[@Jvette1]

Gez, Hope all is well my friend don’t know if you remember me but told you I’d keep you posted day 3 of 4 on ivig (several positive studies treated long covid patients ) I will keep you posted how I feel in the coming wks ... stay positive my friend thanks for another great video

[@coraleerobyn6402]

Would you mind sharing your results with ivig? Very interested

[@Jvette1]

Just on day 3 yet results I’m being told take wks if not a month or 2 will keep all updated but still have horrible brain fog (trapped in a dream like setting since last month) can’t operate a vehicle or complete some tasks.

[@RUNDMC1]

Great stuff. Thanks John!

[@pritamkumarpradhan2505]

I did not have fever but I had a bad gastrointestinal symtom......but after that I am still not myself....I was not hospitalised...but after 10 months I still get high heart rate some days mainly in the evening...mainly 100 or more

[@rhyothemisprinceps1617]

I've noticed my mast cell activation syndrome / histamine intolerance (not long covid , but very similar - probably also a post-viral syndrome) flares up in the evening.

[@viktorandre8545]

Antihistamines alone or in combination with aspirin could work as well to target inflammation as well as various cytotoxic agents clinically Antihistamines such as loratadine inhibits NF-Kb as a result oxidative stress is also decreased significantly

[@RUNDMC1]

Antihistamines and aspirin are a good combo!

[@HilaryRouchy]

Can you give me the link to this training program please

[@captmorgan2063]

I think covid-19 disrupts our gut environment and it causes things like sibo, leaky gut. Histamine is a issue for sure but another biggie for me is sudden salicylate sensitivities

[@michaelday5605]

This is exactly what happened to me. I ended up with massive candida overgrowth and leaky gut. I can no longer tolerate dairy and gluten because the fact that they made it into my bloodstream resulted in antibodies to both of them. On the bright side, going on the Candida diet and after suffering a massive Herxeimer reaction, cracked and dry lips that I've had for 25 years cleared up, and a fungal infection I've had on my foot for 5 years disappeared.

[@bobbyosborn955]

Really like the keystone metaphor! I’d imagine the keystone differs from person to person but certainly possible dysautonomia is at the center for many.

[@RUNDMC1]

Agreed, this is one messy jigsaw puzzle!

[@amaracardamine3837]

Gez, are you going to sign up for the Gupta programme?

[@paliapolis]

Very insightful videos! Thank you so much! Your work means a lot to me.

[@RUNDMC1]

Thank you!

[@rosalindmartin4469]

Very well presented video i feel. Many thanks. Your speakers are excellent. Bless you for asking, "What's your 'instinct' " ... instead of the ridiculously common "How does that make you feel?" All the best to you. 💐🌹🎶🎵 (P.s. 70 yrs ago I developed an accidental fascination with Paramahansa Yogananda ...looking at the Life Magazine double spread of his body entitled ... "Dead for 27 days, still no decomposure" ... From that day on my intel became aware of the enormous power of a trained, focused human brain over the mortal coil. Your presentation of Gupta's well designed work reminded me.)

[@RUNDMC1]

Thank you Rosalind!

[@ShermanTank13]

I did this program about 6 years ago. The basics of meditation, awareness, understanding yourself and your reactions to things can be found in any form of mindfulness teaching and is certainly useful for just about anyone on the planet. Kudos to anyone who found help through it, I did not. I am still very ill. To market it specifically for ME is taking advantage of a group of people with no treatment. Yes, learn mindfulness and meditation, deep rest and your body connection, but is not the end all be all for ME. I am glad it helps some.

[@RUNDMC1]

Thanks for your experience and sharing it here Jenny!

[@ShermanTank13]

@@RUNDMC1 I think it's one of those things that is highly dependent on certain socio-economic privileges - as Tamsin said it is a full time life overhaul - and you also always have to consider what these kinds of things mean for the most severe patients. Even with that, just a 40% positive rate is not that far off from placebo or natural recovery rates. My own disability level regularly fluctuates between 40-70% disabled (over 15 years).

[@oliviarabossit2826]

@@ShermanTank13 hi Jenny, do you have long Covid as well or ME?

[@jennysrp]

@@oliviarabossit2826 Yes Covid for 13 months, ME for 15 years. I made some videos about it on my channel (replying with the channel these videos are on!) if you fancy checking it out. :)

[@oliviarabossit2826]

@@jennysrp i am so sorry to hear this, thanks for the info, I hope you get better soon.

[@hedgehoguk5575]

Very interesting, my heart rate variability has been low which i think links with this. You are looking a lot healthier now.

[@RUNDMC1]

I think a bit of recent sun has helped with that!

[@DennisPanas]

Is orthostactic Hypotension the same as position POTS

[@travisinLA]

I’ve had CFS since a bought of adult chicken pox/meningitis back in 1994 in college. It’s been a rough road.

[@RUNDMC1]

So sorry to hear that Travis

[@travisinLA]

@@RUNDMC1 thank you. I don't' really tell many people.. most people don't understand unless you experience it.

[@atticus149]

Thanks for the film Gez. Another weapon to handle LC. Wud u mind sharing ur experience on the Gupta Prog thus far. Also, ur thoughts on Dr Bruce Patterson’s treatment methodologies. We wud be glad if you cud interview him as well.

[@RUNDMC1]

I’m only a couple of weeks into the program so can’t comment just yet, re Bruce P - am eagerly awaiting his next paper.

[@candyland8903]

Found so many things from your channel that most drs had no clue of. I knew I was dealing with long covid early on and only got reliable info from resources like your channel. So thank you so much for discussing this topic!!!!

[@RUNDMC1]

It’s a pleasure!

[@MrGuensch]

I have had long Covid since March 2020 and the Gupta programm has helped me the most since the beginning. After folowing the programm for tow weeks now i feel way better. Not back to 100% but i think i get there.

[@RUNDMC1]

That’s great news!

[@MrGuensch]

@@RUNDMC1 And also thank you for all your grat work all the time, helped me a lot to stay positive over the last jear

[@bigbuu4334]

@@MrGuensch did you ever have brain fog also?

[@MrGuensch]

@@bigbuu4334 Fortunately not, but many other symptoms.

[@chrisganesha]

The dysautonomia in long covid is being caused by the MCAS. It improves with antihistamines like Zyrtec.

[@RUNDMC1]

It’s more likely that the dysautonomia triggers the MCAS and then the MCAS symptoms create a feedback loop which exaggerates the problem

[@fabulousdoc]

@@RUNDMC1 Exactly.

[@christalcouturier1974]

I would like know if the link with methylation and detoxification has been looked at.

[@oliviarabossit2826]

The Gupta program explains it well actually. If your body is in constant parasympathetic mode, it shuts Down digestion and detox of your body. This is not something that was invented by the Gupta program, there have been tons of researches on it and is something my therapist had told me long time ago actually. Which is why calming the nervous system is very important to enter the rest and digest mode which will allow your body to detoxify.

[@petinapowers2869]

@@oliviarabossit2826 Hi, Would you mind elaborating on similar processes or programs, to Gupta, that may be available to access for free online? Thank you!

[@fabulousdoc]

I personally experienced much improvement In mood and joint and muscle aches when I started SAM-E which supports methylation. There is a genetic link here as I am an under methylater so everyone may not benefit the same (COMT gene and MTHFr)

[@BedboundME]

There’s also research in both ME and longcovid which has suggested the brianstem is impacted /dysfunctional/ hypoactive. Afaik the brain stem is a key control areas for basic life functioning - heart rate, breathing etc. And also there’s hypothesis for ME that the vagus nerve is impacted /dysfunctional, which again has crucial role in normal NS function. These dysautonomia symptoms are common and pretty much post viral not just as post or long covid. . Whilst fibromyalgia share some symptoms, post exertional malaise and the extreme debilitation of ME afaik is not seen in fibromyalgia and therefore their ability to tolerate exercise and generally live well etc seems much better than in post viral ME.

[@commenter7375]

This has been my suspicion around personal symptoms - feeling like my chest is weighted, not feeling like I’m breathing ‘automatically’ (breathing feels slow and off), baseline heart rate too high and disproportionate to activity. How do you heal brainstem dysfunction?

[@BedboundME]

@@commenter7375 research hasn’t got that far :(. There’s been very little that’s even looked at this area, serious Brain research in ME has only just started despite the name Myalgic Encephalomyelitis . I guess they have to understand why, and see if they can address that

[@info_bot]

I just tested positive two days ago, and I've very mild illness (headache, intermittent coughing, and myalgia - all of the symptoms mild). I'm below 30, male, and I have atopy. How can I minimize my chance of getting long COVID? For example, should I start taking antihistamines out of precaution?

[@RUNDMC1]

Yes I would do so, and then - pretty much at all costs - convalesce for as long as you possibly can. Depending on where you are I would also try to get hold of some ivermectin too. Alldaychemist are an option, as is the horse paste that you can just buy online - obviously I can’t recommend that though!

[@Beekind799]

take 18mg ivermectin and 50mg zinc for 4 days ina row that ends covid,if you cant get ivm and zinc take 2 x 1000mg caps liposmal vit c every hour till all the symptoms have gone,it takes a few days ,if you want the full protocol to heal your weak immune system message me

[@maritadenil6774]

👍❤️👍 Cool! Love from Belgium! Stay save en don't give up. ✨✨✨

[@RUNDMC1]

Thank you!

[@boxerdogmum583]

This is the scientific way of saying that your body will heal itself, as long as it’s in “rest and digest”. It can’t heal while stuck in “fight or flight”. And I like the idea that self-care is “mandatory” Also check out Dr Rangan Chatterjee’s podcast on inner chatter and harnessing your inner coach.

[@lynb87]

I read it takes 17 years for medicine to change and take on new discoveries. I get that we need studies but we've been too reluctant to fund them. Neuroplasticity hasn't been controversial for years. I haven't tried this but have recently started trying different meditations and it is helping.

[@beatz3279]

So how can they expect someone with already Dystaunomonia then co vid made it worse and now reluctant to have va x as know their body cannot cope and will turn on itself and maybe shutndown completely. I am terrified of va c due to this reason and now lost job part time as havnt had va c after seeing it also can cause ppl issues and they were people who were not this severely affected health wise already. i was managing part time work after at times being bed ridden in past and unable to work full time. Now thati have lost routine for part time work to keep me somehwat active deconditioning is worse. So question. How can someone handle the va c when in this state? The fear itself subconsciously can be detrimental to that response let alone the fragile depleted state already in . Feels what meant to protect us we being forced to have something that could be nail in the coffin and notonce but twice and now boosters. I feel very trapped and financially now stress is also added to it as well

[@ellenalden-Mind-Body-Healing]

Thank you to Gez for his continued research and quest for a way through…your tenacity and dedication are greatly appreciated by all❤

[@tonyg4058]

Hey Gez, thanks for this. One of my main long standing long covid symptoms is an intolerance to heat and generally being warmer all the time now. Moderately warm weather brings on headaches and I can't tolerate the Sun on my skin anymore (feels much hotter). Do you think this could be a Dysautonomia symptom? Or maybe something else, like a faulty hypothalamus? Because I also have chronic dry mouth too. Cheers

[@RUNDMC1]

Hi Tony - this could be autonomic malfunction, also possible endocrine system but that might be downstream. I recommend breathwork and meditation anyway, for mental health reasons alone - and anything else is a bonus!

[@jennifercancio9606]

Before covid, I always felt cold. I was neurotically cold all the time. Now I know exactly what you mean. I'm always running hot. I also have chronic dry mouth amongst so many other symptoms. Today, I just want to sleep and sleep and sleep....

[@tonyg4058]

@@RUNDMC1 Ok thanks will probably try that

[@tonyg4058]

@@jennifercancio9606 I was exactly the same, running cold all the time pre covid. Now I am the total opposite! How long are you into Long Covid now? I'm over a year. I really hope this resolves as my plan was to move abroad to a warmer climate but I just can't hack the heat anymore

[@StephanieAlice]

@@tonyg4058 did you recover? I have the opposite problem - my temp reads 34.0 degrees Celsius often! The cold brings on symptoms. Dysautonomia affects temp regulation surely, but I just assumed everyone else would also be struggling to generate warmth.

[@mpe8842]

Havening helps get back into that calm state,Dr.Kate Truitt has lots of free meditations on her channel,it helps with anxiety I've found more than meditation or mindfulness alone & in reducing nightmares,she combines different meditation styles & breath-work in her videos as well as brain games to help stop your mind looping. It's a great free resource.

[@isisneteru6713]

Thanks for all this work! Apart from brain fog, low energy, gut issues....I experience problems at bed time....So tired and sleepy but as soon as I lie down my body kicks up a storm - vibrating, headaches, flushing to the brain. I try to sleep propped up to minimize it but then I sometimes get sleep paralysis, disturbing dreams, sudden anxiety. Night times are hell. Would this be part of dysautonomia or gut/brain barrier stuff? Would melatonin also help with activating the parasympathetic system to allow body to calm down? Is central nervous system over active? Can't get any help from docs. I'm scared of the night now

[@RUNDMC1]

This sounds dysautonomic. Melatonin will help you sleep but I really recommend breathwork and meditation regularly throughout the day

[@isisneteru6713]

About the melatonin...I meant to say... wouldn't it have the same function as a low dose beta blocker? Stimulating the parasympathetic nervous system etc.

[@01maggie]

I have long covid...what helped me Lemon Balm with Ashwaghanda. Lemon balm calms the central nervous system and Ashwaghanda nourishes and calms adrenal gland. Can take several times a day. I use a glycerin based tincture Vimergy brand..buy on Amazon. Very very clean product. I take one dropperful of each.. especially at bedtime. It calms you down. It stops my heart palpitations.

[@samantharoulston]

This is exactly what I am experiencing! Did it resolve for you?

[@Ladybird22373]

I got better with rewriting but ashok is too much. You don’t have to be so intense. Talk to your body & mind . It knows what to do