How to Troll from a Canoe (with the Scotty Rod Holder)

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[@brianchantler2959]

I never had the opportunity being able to grow up fishing. 2 years ago I decided to give it a try and soon after deemed myself the world's worst fisherman. Just from watching your content I went from catching nothing and I mean literally nothing to now almost everytime I go out I am able to real something in, including my personal best which was a 30" pike at almost 9 lbs and the best part was my little guy was in the canoe with me. Just from changing my gear setup through your suggestions has made me more confident and I'm now able to give my son the opportunity that I never had. Thank you!

[@LostLakes]

Appreciate that so much Brian! That's beautiful 💚 And half of the battle is persevering through those fishless days to learn those early lessons, so kudos to you for sticking with it!

[@DeeHermanson]

Never to late to learn how to fish! That’s wonderful you stuck with it and it seems like you enjoy it quite a bit😊

[@loin897]

You were the one that convinced me to get a trolling mount last year from watching a previous video.....many caught fish later I haven't looked back ever since ..thank you for all the wisdom you share...you've made a difference to this starfish!

[@danielchancey6959]

So glad i found this video. I purchased the rod holder for my first spring trip into algonquin park. I always attempted a 3 way swivel troll while holding the rod in my legs. The rod holder made such a massive difference. Spring conditions also helped since i didnt have to get the lures deep. After a bunch of trial and error, we found the sweet spot on the lake we were staying at. Slow trolling near the shore, saw the rod tip bounce twice, and before i knew it the reel was screaming. Landed a beauty laker. Not 30 minutes later, continued along and landed a beauty brookie. What an absolutely amazing way to catch fish.

[@williamwilson3474]

Some great tips. Very informative. I have had a Scotty for a couple of years now and absolutely love it. Like you pointed out, you can adjust it to exactly how you want it very easily. Have a great day my friend.

[@LostLakes]

Thanks a lot William! It's a terrific product

[@travistej]

After only one trip of trying to troll with the rod under my leg I bought a Ram brand rod holder. You've sung praises of rod holders in many of your videos which took my hesitation away from spending the money on one. The first trip after getting the rod holder I hooked into so many more fish than before. Thanks for the tips over the years!

[@LostLakes]

Hahah right on!! RAM is a quality brand as well...that's what I use for mounting the gopro on the gunnel. My pleasure :)

[@edemunck1]

Same exact setup! Great advice, and like you said, its a numbers game - time in the water is key while making progress on the trip at the same time.

[@LostLakes]

Good stuff Eric! Exactly 🙂🙂

[@dwrivers47]

I love these tutorials, really appreciate you helping the amateurs like myself.

[@LostLakes]

Appreciate that Derek :)

[@johnpalmer6822]

I used that holder on an 8 day trip in the bwca, worked great. I purchased it due to watching your videos. Great vids.

[@gravityalwayswins1434]

Perfect video. All the pertinent info without the juvenile 'in yer face' antics. Thanks Jon. Trolling IS as good as you say. My son is a hardcore fisherman, and walleye is his favorite species to catch. May this year he landed his personal best 32" 13.6 pound walleye, trolling from the boat. And I was there, and caught mine as well. Both while trolling. The fact is, baits are always in the water at the correct depth. Once fish is released bait is down again, and stays there, unless weeds or a snag, or change of lure. This video emphasizes that point. It's a GREAT way to fish.

[@LostLakes]

Wow, incredible fish! That really is the beauty of it...lure in the strike zone so much more than occasional casts. Thanks a lot Bob!

[@JeffWinter1]

I inherited an elegantly simple rod holder that my father used to use from, I'm guessing, the 1950s. Super strong, totally adjustable, made with only 3 stamped metal pieces with only 2 bolts and painted red so you couldn't lose it. I'm sure I'll be passing it on to my kids too. Good video.

[@LostLakes]

Sounds like the kind of stuff they don't make anyone, and a fine heirloom. Thanks Jeff :)

[@WhiteWolfXIV]

Love these types of videos. Thanks Jon!

[@LostLakes]

Thanks WhiteWolf!

[@gregorycutter6112]

Thanks Jon. Great video. Just ordered up the Scotty setup through your site for my loaner packboat. Was without for 5 days in Temagami last week and it was a total PITA trying to troll.

[@rdg848]

I love the videos you do explaining how and why you use or do things. I bought two of these last year using your link. The first time my wife got a hit on hers, she nearly jumped out of the canoe and yelled "what happened!?". It was a nice chunky bass.

[@LostLakes]

LOL. Really appreciate that RDG84!!

[@rockymountainman]

Thanks for sharing this video John! I learned a lot from it and I appreciate the time you take making these videos

[@LostLakes]

Really appreciate that RMM!

[@landyslife4870]

Just put my Amazon order in for the set! Used the link in the bio so hopefully you get a bit of a kick back. I have been debating getting a rod holder for a while and your description of tucking it under your leg has been my strategy for years. Made in Canada and Lost lakes approved, I had to pull the trigger. Thanks for the review!

[@LostLakes]

Thanks so much Ryan, really appreciate the support!! Hope you love it as much as I do :)

[@Niagara-b5l]

I know my fishing, I’ve back trolled more than many people have forward trolled . This is good advice you’re giving .

[@LostLakes]

Hahah!! Love the way you put that. Thanks Alan :)

[@SnuffyB123]

HI i watched you 9 day adventure and think your videography was and presentation was great and it made for a wonderful ride along adventure, so thank you for the adventure I otherwise would not have had.

[@darrendavidsonoutdoors]

Yup, I have basically the same one but bought my canoe with the Scotty attachments built onto the cross rails for whatever I choose to attach to them. Love the rod holder.

[@LostLakes]

Oooh very nice!

[@DeeHermanson]

Thank you! I always enjoy when you share what you have learned out on your long adventures! I take the front treble hook off my lures and pinch the back barbs since I learned that from you. It helps a lot!!

[@LostLakes]

Music to my ears!!! Really appreciate this!

[@DeeHermanson]

@@LostLakes thanks man😊

[@thegrouchyfish]

Excellent tutorial on the ins and outs of trolling! I've always been a huge fan of trolling. I have my favorite go to spots on the lake where I love casting for fish, but I always troll while traveling from spot to spot. More than half of the big fish I've ever caught have been caught while I was trolling. Thanks again for the tips!

[@LostLakes]

Thanks TGF! I have to say the same thing about my big fish...interesting eh

[@ripplesandleaves]

Thank you for this! I meant to ask you about this. Your video is so helpful. I'm a total newbie for fishing. That's how I found your channel in the first place.

[@LostLakes]

Appreciate this Andrea!

[@MichiganMan1837]

Good stuff, bought a bunch through your store. Thanks looking forward to canoe fishing around Michigan

[@LostLakes]

Much appreciated!!

[@tomonagaoutdoors]

Thanks! Very informative. I tried trolling from my canoe for the first time a couple of weeks ago and yes, had my rod under my leg. I'll look into getting a rod holder.

[@LostLakes]

Thanks TO! Hahah it works, but if you try a rod holder I don't think you'll ever go back :)

[@XanderBudnick]

thanks for all the tips Jon - I love my Scotty rod holder - the only thing I don't like about it is it changes the clean lines and aesthetics of the canoe but then again I have a big old camera on a tripod hanging out of my canoe so I suppose it already looks like the Vengabus anyways

[@LostLakes]

Sorry, are we talking about the aesthetics of a boat named PATCHES? 😝 JK Patches is a sexy beast and I totally hear ya. And i feel the same about the camera mount and tripod...not beautiful, but functional

[@XanderBudnick]

@@LostLakeslol I actually laughed out loud reading this! Yah I don't know what I'm saying. Patches already looks pretty rough around the edges :p

[@LostLakes]

@@XanderBudnick hahaha sign of a well-used canoe. Can't trust those flawless canoes.

[@fadlinlinsai]

Xander, I came here from your video haha

[@LostLakes]

@@fadlinlinsai 🙂🙂

[@HivetoHome]

I got into fishing recently because of your videos and now I'm hooked. Also got a rod holder pretty much right away because of the recommendations in some of your previous videos and I find that I also catch a lot of my fish (not that I catch a lot of fish) trolling. It's great tip. Funny you mention the difference in paddle. I'm often out in my solo canoe and I always bring a single blade and a double blade. I use the double blade to get from point A to B quickly, and I use the single blade for trolling or fishing a particular area since I've also noticed that the double blade is much too quick for trolling. Great video!

[@LostLakes]

Thanks a lot Duane :) It's great you've caught on to that...I've become terribly attached to the DB, at the expense of the fishing

[@HivetoHome]

@@LostLakes I hear ya! It’s definitely a lot more efficient for getting around though!

[@henrymostert2125]

That was a great tutorial on a good product. You have a very good way of describing things And making it understandable. I bought 1 of these holders a few years ago from your recommendation and I agree it is a very well made product. Also take care of yourself you may want children 1 day

[@LostLakes]

Hahaha no grandkids after this one...my mom will be crushed. Thanks a lot Henry!

[@ez2BEryan]

I’ve been looking into a rod holder for trolling for a while. As soon as you said Scottys is made in Canada and lost lakes approved I knew what to pull the trigger on!

[@LostLakes]

Hahah right on!!

[@PaddlesAndTravels]

Another great video, Jon but while you were posting it Billie and I were out trolling, for the first time, with our Scotty rod holders on our kayaks. I’m not kidding you!! Billie caught 2 lake trout and I caught a walleye using the Berkeley Flicker Minnow 9Ds!! You are, by far, our favorite KZbinr as you’ve taught us so much and made us laugh at ourselves when we try to unsuccessfully copy you lol Neil and Billie-Jo

[@LostLakes]

OMG LOL!! That is so awesome, appreciate this so much you two!! 💚💚

[@RodMurray]

I recall asking you about the Scotty a few years back when I saw it in another of your vids. I’m standing in Cdn Tire in the fishing department and searched for Scotty rod holders and found this one! Off to Quetico next week so I’m grabbing the last two on the shelf. This was really helpful!!

[@LostLakes]

Hahah right on, worth every penny. Hope you have a great trip Rod

[@RodMurray]

@@LostLakes my wife and I watched your Quetico series all over again as inspiration! It’ll be a bucket list trip for us and our paddling friends. Tight lines!

[@markchuchra8399]

Jon, This tutorial provided some great food for thought. Thank you for this. I have been thinking about a lot of these points in isolation so it’s great to hear your point of view given that you do this so much more often than I ever have or likely will. One friendly suggestion would be to add a short segment to this video showing placement of the rod holder relative to your seating position. I have been experimenting with the double ended paddle and I like the efficiency that it provides. But I’d love to get your point of view on the best options for thr rod holder placement (Perhaps with different options identified depending on the type of paddle used). Thanks a lot and keep up the great work

[@LostLakes]

Thanks a lot Mark, and for the suggestion! I wish I had spoken to that...the long recovery with the double blade makes me put it up farther, basically as far as I can reach (another con of the DB with the rod holder), whereas with the single blade I can keep it within a comfortable reach

[@44Wizards]

Excellent video John. LOVE trolling

[@LostLakes]

Thanks Chris! Enhances a full day of paddling so much

[@jimfromm3981]

I have had 6 kayaks and several outboard vessels. There are one or two Scotty holders on each vessel. Most of my fishing is saltwater. I mostly troll in deep water and on the flats. I have caught some really large fish including sharks. For those with pedal kayaks', you can always keep pedaling and the holder will keep tension on the fish while you are reeling in the other rod. Happy to hear they are made in Canada. Love your dry humor. "You can beat the snot out of them."

[@LostLakes]

Thanks for this Jim :) Very smart idea with pedal kayaks and reeling in a second line. Would love the canoe to have pedals sometimes lol

[@tomdunham6016]

Just picked one of these up, haven’t had a lot of luck trolling. Thanks for the tips !

[@LostLakes]

In the heat of summer and on pressured waters the bite can still be tough, but you're always upping the odds when your line's wet at least :)

[@jasonreid611]

You got a nice shout out from Xander…love to see support like that…he thinks you’re quite the outdoorsman…and funny 😁

[@LostLakes]

Thanks Jason, I caught that...what a beauty!

[@tonybrabender5907]

Great video I like the Scotty's as well great advice trolling can be extremely productive. Fish on!!! 😎

[@Toots807]

Hey man. Wife and I have been watching you for a while and enjoy your videos. You're up in our neck of the woods. Rooting for your KZbin success.

[@LostLakes]

Really appreciate that GO!! :)

[@CanadianSledDog]

This is why I catch fish! I never had any success (or much interest to be honest) until I saw the way you fish and learned to imitate it. Love seeing all those crankbaits with just the tail hook, obviously pinched barbs, I know they work like that because it's all I use now. And they catch so much less weed, as well as not mutilating the fish.

[@LostLakes]

Cheers to that CSD!! So many good reasons for doing it 🙂

[@differentfins]

I just got into trolling while paddling last year and it is effective. This year I bought an Old Town kayak and because I propel the boat with my feet I can hold onto the rod while trolling. I prefer that to the holder, being able to set the hook when i feel the strike. Also I lose a few fish while getting the rod our of the holder but if I am in a canoe it is the best option. I'll be doing some trolling in Superior in less than 2 weeks. I bailed on Prairie River this summer, I think I'll need a few more days off for that trip. I decided to launch from Rossport and camp on the islands just outside Nipigon Bay.

[@WHATTHEBEEP1]

awesome video, I have been battling back and forth with getting rod holders for my canoe, I think im going to go for it.thanks John! -James

[@LostLakes]

Thanks James! I'm pretty certain you'll be happy you did :)

[@littlepony6762]

Grew up trolling with my Dad in a boat always got our fish use trolling rods Thank you 👍🏽👍🏽

[@LostLakes]

Good memories 🙂🙂

[@jasonreid611]

I love just paddling along pulling a jitterbug…then wham…big bass. Enjoyed the video.

[@LostLakes]

Thanks Jason :) Sure keeps it exciting!

[@StasFilshtinskiy]

Thank you! Will try it when we let out of the lock down.

[@markchuchra8399]

This was great Food for thought, John

[@tombeckett4340]

Yes I agree. I’ve probably been using one for ever or as long as I can remember. Thanks 🇨🇦👍

[@MuskokaLocal]

Buy yourself a #2 willow leaf Mepps, silver. A great shallow bait and works really well. Spawning river Lake Trout LOVE it. Great video.

[@kateritrzebiatowski2864]

I’ll make sure to use these tips thanks Jono!

[@LostLakes]

😆😆

[@namchau2004]

I was going to message you today asking about the rod holder you use. Opened youtube and this was on my recommended list. It's weird when you get those ads on social media about something you were talking about earlier, but this is getting out of hand 😂. Will definitely be checking out your Amazon storefront tonight. Thanks for all the info. As an avid fisherman, its still good to get a refresher on some of the more technical details.

[@LostLakes]

LOL! I know that feeling, too weird! Thanks Nam :)

[@georgecarchedi5732]

Greats video and love your channel. Ontario has some of the best fishing and lot of untouched lake in Northern Ontario. I live in Central Ontario, and try to go further north to fish everything I can go

[@LostLakes]

Thanks a lot George! I feel ya, I grew up down south and was constantly try to get north, usually motivated by fishing

[@jasonmcclennan6443]

Hey, great video, I actually just ordered one of the rod holders thru your link on Amazon, I could have picked up the same thing at C.T. but really i would rather support this 😉 . It arrived quick and came along on my Algonquin trip last week, works great on my Nova craft gunnels no rattles or slipping, It is truly awesome gear, really do appreciate both types of the videos ( epic trips as well as The educational "this is how I do it" ) videos!!!

[@LostLakes]

Greatly appreciate that Jason!!! And at times I believe I've seen it for a few bucks less at CT, so thanks so much for the support!!

[@EzeAdventurer]

Love this thanks bro! Just bought this exact set up! I lost my rod holder by pranking my dad and pulling on his line from the backseat of the canoe (on video :-))! The whole holder and rod fell overboard... buy cheap, pay twice!

[@LostLakes]

Thanks OA! 🙂

[@milesrost6674]

Xander Budnick sent me and I'm glad he did. Great content and personality. Godspeed.

[@LostLakes]

Really appreciate that Miles! That was so kind of Xander :)

[@Jboogie314]

I wish trolling worked in Texas. I’ve tried everything I can think of with no success. Different species I guess. Great videos. Makes me miss Great Lakes fishing.

[@scottbarton7508]

Another benefit is after landing a fish, it's a great place to park the rod while you work on the lure removal, or during a lure change...great vids.

[@LostLakes]

Good thinkin', thanks Scott!

[@Ryan-dr4wo]

Nice video my man lotta good info here

[@goodncold]

I have the scotty products for rod holders. I did buy two metal rod holders (with clamps) that were dirt cheap for an aluminum boat and what a bunch of garbage. But the scotty worked great. So worth the extra $$

[@LostLakes]

EXACTLY. Hope others see this before they buy anything like that

[@5784Eva]

Super ! I was waiting for your new video :) hello from Mississauga.

[@LostLakes]

🙂🙂 Say hi to my mom lol

[@5784Eva]

@@LostLakes hahaha funny :)

[@brendabinau1187]

Nicely done!!

[@LostLakes]

Thanks Brenda!

[@paulbossence5687]

Great stuff, thanks Jon

[@LostLakes]

Thanks Paul!

[@TheJammiran]

Thanks. Once again you are a treasure-trove of common sense.

[@LostLakes]

That is a great compliment to me lol, thank you :)

[@TheJammiran]

@@LostLakes true story man.

[@RedPoppyArtHouse]

thx for info man, wasn't sure what clamp to get, I also almost bought cheaper version, Scotty looks like the way to go.

[@Scott___T]

Thanks for the link! I've only seen the straight clamp and was concerned about damage to the hull

[@LostLakes]

My pleasure :) Yeah that's a good point...I feel like this one would be safe on any canoe that's not made of paper mache

[@Johnnywalleye1]

This came just in time for me.Headed to the Boundary waters Aug 3. Thanks

[@LostLakes]

Perfect :) Enjoy John!

[@jayheinrich5207]

Good luck, enjoy your adventure!

[@jwpercy]

Great tips. Scotty makes great products. From experience though, they don't float. Mount it up on dry land. I have watched one fade into the abyss.

[@LostLakes]

Hahaha oh no, I've had that fear many times mounting in the canoe. Good advice. Thanks Jody!

[@sooleyoutdoors2728]

good video. great tips.

[@glyngrand8843]

I heard a commercial for a magnetic actuated diver last night on an outdoor show here in Cleveland. Sounds like the magnetic allows you to reset without bringing it all the way in. Also, on our fly in trips we used salty dog rod holders. The main problem vs your scottys is the salty dogs are more noisy. They are 100% aluminum except for the mounting screws and are super durable. Just an option. Oh, no modularity. One setup does all. Least that was the way back when I bought mine back in the 80s.

[@SeagullTunes]

Great info, thx

[@LostLakes]

Thanks ST 🙂🙂

[@GratefulTrekker]

Great method I also really like lazy ike lures

[@alanbierhoff6831]

Another fantastic video full of great, extremely useful information. I agree with EVERYTHING you said 1000% Your videos are a breath of fresh air compared to some of the crap that’s being cranked out by others. Scotty is the absolute best. I’ve been using their products for over 40 years and sold their products when I had my bait & tackle shop. I see you’re using a size 30 Pflueger Supreme Spinning Reel but what rod (make, length, model, etc.) are you using? It looks like an Ugly Stik. The ONLY time I’ll use a bird-nester, err I mean bait caster is for trolling lol. Thanks again Jon * I sent you a video request on Messenger

[@LostLakes]

Thanks so much Alan!! Even called the size of the reel...the keen eye of someone who ran a tackle shop! The rod is an Ugly Stik Elite 7ft 1pc and I've got another video on the full rig if needed (kzbin.info/www/bejne/gp6Ti2WIqaeSkNE). That's a good idea about the canoe outfitting vid...though some others would be much more qualified. Someone else requested that I go over my canoes so I could bring those topics together. Wouldn't be for a while though in the midst of canoe tripping season :)

[@paddlehooked4687]

So many times, I’ll troll across a lake, get nothing then as soon as I grab the reel to bring the line in BAM! Fish on! I’ve been using that Scotty holder for years, don’t waste time with cheap Amazon ones, bite the bullet and get the Scotty it’s totally worth the money.

[@LostLakes]

Sooo true Rob...another change in speed/direction effect. Triggered! I was actually in CT today and looked at the uber cheap Berkley wire coil they have...made me laugh

[@rialobran]

Canadians don't trawl, you catch fish on the first cast every time, lol. I'll have to see if they are available over here, you're one of the few credible YT'ers that if he/she says a piece if kit is good or worth having I'd look into it.

[@LostLakes]

LOL. At least in Canada, this would be "trolling" and trawling is the dragging of a net behind a boat, typically for commercial fishing...you guys call it trawling there? Very much appreciated Si!!

[@rialobran]

@@LostLakes No idea to be honest, but trolling is what I do on the internet when I'm really bored, I just assumed you trawled with a net and a hook...and your accent made it sound like trolling. I'll ask Gandalf when I see him next.

[@kaohtix420]

Been visiting your wonderful town sir for last 2 weeks can you recommend any lakes to fish from shore ?

[@LostLakes]

Right on :) Nothing better than Superior including along the cove in Marathon, or river mouths (e.g. Steel, Little Pic) of course. You can park here and walk down to the mouth of the Steel if that's of interest: goo.gl/maps/gHZwLuWjeqsNs1E2A And the Little Pic can be accessed here for free (bit rough but extremely scenic): goo.gl/maps/RGf5y45zfyQj3FkD8 Or from Neys (pay for day use) at the mouth. Either might have some early salmon soon too.

[@freddiegonz4113]

Nice video John. Do you mind sending me the link to buy that holder as well as the clamp for that holder? Thank you

[@LostLakes]

Sure thing, I keep it in my Amazon storefront. Note that there are two separate pieces to order...the clamp and the rod mount kzbin.info?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbjRkdm9fOFJhNGVuMDdVZXJEaDNmSHRZc25OUXxBQ3Jtc0tuLUtEM28zT0VCN3NBQTVFMzJqaGpCeFFYUnBCTnhUdkY4ZkE4MVpna3lOT2l1UFZMcVAwRmphZzhkbkgxSzVuN1VvaEV3LTdCdHlpRkR0eU5kMDQ2YVB6RWJjRDJlM0otYnhwcm05dWpqeHhIQlpmRQ&q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.ca%2Fshop%2Fbackcountryanglingontario%3FlistId%3DBXK5PCGD03SH&v=fFri02EMoa8

[@jaykimble5188]

Do you attach your line/snap to the split ring that usually comes with certain lures like that diver you showed, or is there a benefit/hinderance in attaching to the loop built into the lure that the split ring is connected to? hoping that makes sense lol

[@LostLakes]

Hahah I follow. I feel like I used to understand this better but, if I recall, attaching to the split ring is good on crankbaits because it enhances the action of the lure. Whereas something like a jig you would tie direct

[@jaykimble5188]

@@LostLakes And what about spoons? I noticed some have split rings and some don't (just to preface, I'm quite green in this game)

[@DaxWoodsWanderer]

Have you ever lost a classic or go-to lure they do not make anymore? Just had that happen on the last trip and have been going crazy trying to find them again.

[@LostLakes]

I'm sure I have but if it's any consolation, I forgotten them all lol

[@martincuda7947]

A friend and I caught a nice bass trolling a lake in Algonquin last week. We tried trolling for Lake trout but after listening to your video I think we were trolling too deep. I found the deepest parts of the lakes and let a lot of line out and trolled back and forth. I wonder how much line I should let out when fishing a deep Lake in July when the top water is warmest?

[@LostLakes]

Hey Martin, you took the right approach for lakers in July. But it depends on the type of lure. The deepest diving crankbait may still not be deep enough to catch them regularly. If you were using a heavy spoon or something that can freefall, that can work. To specifically target deep lake trout in mid-summer, I'm more likely to bomb out a lipless crankbait like the rippin' rap (or heavy spoon or jig), let it fall to bottom, then rip-jig it back to surface. On inland lakes, I just don't troll much for lakers in the heat of summer. Works great here on Superior though, where the water stays cold.

[@martincuda7947]

@@LostLakes I will try that. Thank you!!

[@roberthansen8483]

What do you use for your leader for pike. Last time I went out I use 20lb braided line straight threw with now breaking

[@LostLakes]

Just 20lb fluoro...it's pretty abrasion resistant

[@dannyvaz667]

Jon, in the summer trolling crankbaits, do you find they go deep enough to catch fish? Still haven't caught the elusive trout yet.

[@LostLakes]

Good Q Danny...certainly it gets tougher in the dog days of summer. This is the toughest bite of the year to me. For warm or cool-water species (bass, walleye, pike) it still works great. Coldwater species like lake trout are tougher to catch with crankbaits in summer. On Superior, because of its cold temps, it's still very effective for trout. On inland lakes, my deepest running cranks can work, but to target deep trout in summer I'm more likely to bomb out a lipless crankbait like the rippin' rap (or heavy spoon or jig), let it fall to bottom, then rip-jig it back to surface. I don't really like the 3-way swivel rig anymore because it fouls on itself sometimes and it's just more trouble than it's worth. Locating the deep basins is critical too, if you can find the bathymetry (have a vid on finding this)

[@dannyvaz667]

@@LostLakes Cheers Jon - since trolling after chatting with you/watching your videos over the past 3 years, I always catch something on a trip. Usually bass or pike, still hunting for walleye and trout!

[@kittydarling6405]

♥

[@Djkoe]

How long is your double blade paddle?

[@LostLakes]

250cm

[@mikedouglass7510]

Question: Is this OK to mount to rental kevlar canoes?

[@LostLakes]

Oh ya, it'd be left unscathed :)

[@archie7212]

I guess you could always slow your paddle rate with the double sided paddle and also paddle twice on each side just to mix things up a bit. Great video buy the way :-)

[@LostLakes]

Hahah true, but my "natural" pace seems to take over as I zone out into a paddling rhythm. The beauty of the single blade is that the right trolling speed came naturally. Thanks Archie!

[@archie7212]

@@LostLakes No worries, love what you do and you are such a lucky guy.......catch ya on the next one :-)

[@joe_outdoors_]

When paddling tandem, would you consider trolling two lures? Or would that be too much drag and hassle?

[@ChrisRembKFL]

That's all I do with my dad, no rod holders either you just have it tucked into your legs and have one person going out on each side. Unless it's crazy windy youre fine. Just gotta be careful with tight turns.

[@LostLakes]

Oh ya Erin and I both troll together on opposite sides. But if you're using deep diving lures, it's surprising how much drag two can cause. But like Chris said, if you're making a tight turn the lines can cross

[@ChrisRembKFL]

@@LostLakes honestly never considered drag on deep diving lures, I think bc 90% of the time we’re paddling we’re also trolling lol

[@placidpaddler]

Nothing imparts action to a trolled lure like the canoe paddle. It unlocks the lure's potential by such a magnitude that I'm surprised the tackle companies don't sell their own brand of paddles!

[@LostLakes]

Hahaha so true!!

[@somey3640]

Did you get a longer double blade, if so how long?

[@LostLakes]

Naw I decided to stick with the 250cm. Largely just to not have to buy another one but also because my new canoe is 2" narrower so that helps a lot. Also partly because of using the rod holder...any longer and it's hard to keep it from hitting the rod on the recovery. And any longer and it would get hard to lay it in front of me in the boat.

[@blackandredsword2698]

Scotty doesn't know... That you're promoting their products lol. I just got a cheaper one from Amazon that came with the clamp, but it seems really big. Like lots of wiggle room for the rod. Trying it out this afternoon so I hope it works out. Was gonna ask if you had any advice on where to mount it so I'm not hitting it with the paddle but can still reach it easily

[@ethanfinlay2256]

try the brocraft rod holder on amazon super robust

[@LostLakes]

I wonder where it's made...can't find it in the description

[@fioreboschi1471]

Ummmm...I need one of those Mr. Canoehead badges!!!

[@LostLakes]

Hahah Erin and I went on a hike for our first date and she brought a couple Mr Canoehead tallboys in her backpack for the lookout. She got me the patch a couple of years later to commemorate it :)

[@kelusky77]

Bought a second Scotty rod holder while watching this🤣

[@LostLakes]

Hahaha it's awesome with two paddlers/rod holders because you can simultaneously test different lures and depths to see what's working :)

[@drjheyer]

If you want to add depth with minimal hassle, try a snap on weight.

[@alexs3447]

I troll for everything , specks ,pickeral , bass ,lakers etc . But i have never used a rod holder . Just put the rod on the yoke, with the reel in the neck opening. Not very sturdy and i have had fish ( 3.5 lb speck) hit hard and pull the rod back into my lap.Only use a 5 ft telescopic rod so I'm not far out from the canoe. Can't say i do a lot of S tracking , but i don't use plugs . But unexpected stops in paddling ( like fixing a line tangle) have caught fish as the lure drops. I carry a smaller paddle as a spare and its my trolling paddle.

[@LostLakes]

Hey as long as you're happy with it! So true about the unexpected stops...very triggering.

[@alexs3447]

@@LostLakes Let me say i also use a sonar unit and this allows me to stay in the depth i desire. But if i see a drop off i can stop paddling and let the lure drop into it. Also saves a lot of lost lures through snags. Also tend to switch the sides the rod is on so that would require 2 holders

[@LostLakes]

@@alexs3447 ahh yes the sonar is a huge help for that. And you make a good point about switching sides easily... That is convenient

[@alexs3447]

@@LostLakes I tend to work the same stretch of shoreline back and forth . Sometimes as little as 100 yds. When i turn have to watch the line doesn't catch the transducer. Even on a trip to Hogan we caught all our fish on a 200 yd stretch of shoreline

[@BrianthatiscalledBrian]

Any advice on trolling the youtube comments section? 😇😋🙂👍🚣‍♂️

[@LostLakes]

Loooll!

[@deltronzero9]

what rod are you running?

[@LostLakes]

It's an Ugly Stik Elite 7ft 1pc and I've got another video on the full rig if needed (kzbin.info/www/bejne/gp6Ti2WIqaeSkNE) 🙂

[@deltronzero9]

@@LostLakes thank you

[@switchblade454]

How often do you get subscribers that ask you to go with you on a trip?

[@vtowner69]

I have 4 spots for rod holders on my kayak. Which ever lake I do decide to fish from I make sure to email the fish there to let them know I am coming.

[@LostLakes]

Hahah!!

[@CampingwithSamBananas]

So that's how you do it lol

[@LostLakes]

😝😝

[@acecoast6185]

60-70% troll baba!!!

[@kateritrzebiatowski2864]

😮😮😮😮😮😮

[@etoirelav]

Look out Bob Izumi.

[@LostLakes]

😆😆

[@etoirelav]

@@LostLakes Seriously, great tips man!

[@LostLakes]

@@etoirelav hahah thanks Steve!

[@MrKveite1]

Not so fast with the speed of the lures young Padawan, some can take a LOT more speed than others so it's more about getting the right lures for that speed and also adjusting them so they work on different speeds is a thing on most lures of that type. i have used them as my main tool for 45 year and if people think u just flip them out and troll then they are wrong...there is a lot of adjustment on them if you know how to.

[@LostLakes]

Hahah without a doubt, but there's still a maximum and, more importantly, I think some speeds are faster than ideal from the fish's perspective. I've measured my speed solo with the double blade and I can easily hit 5km/h which is borderline too fast, and if I'm paddling hard or have a tail wind, 8km/h which is faster than an ideal trolling speed IMO. A fish can outswim any lure of course, but *do they want to* is the question

[@MrKveite1]

@@LostLakes in the sea, yes. in lakes no. slow is definately the way wether you are there or i am trolling here in Norway:)

[@LostLakes]

5:01 New excuse when not catching. Firing this off between trips since I promised it back in April. Amazon links for Canada & USA (need *both* pieces): Canada: www.amazon.ca/shop/backcountryanglingontario?listId=BXK5PCGD03SH USA: www.amazon.com/shop/backcountryanglingontario?listId=2ARHDZDKMKIO8

[@ActuallyAndrewFishing]

Thank you! I needed some new excuses to add to my repertoire as to why I’m not catching 😂. Nice video. Thanks!!