How to UNDERVOLT Ryzen 5000 series CPUs (FULL Tutorial)

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@techyescity
@techyescity 2 жыл бұрын
Surprised not one person mentioned that we remove the latency penalty incurred by circumventing dynamic boost.... Enjoy!
@richardfarmer6570
@richardfarmer6570 2 жыл бұрын
I did notice that you were pushing the BIOS flashback on the back of the motherboard which is not the clear CMOS.
@araisikewai
@araisikewai 2 жыл бұрын
Because everyone has been bitching about it, before you proceed to GPU undervolt tutorial, please do a comparison benchmark of Curve Optimizer undervolting vs hard capping clock/voltage undervolting.
@massimo72163
@massimo72163 2 жыл бұрын
Better latency without turbo boost?
@temporaltomato3021
@temporaltomato3021 2 жыл бұрын
@@richardfarmer6570 Yeah I saw that too. This is my first time on this channel, and that in particular got me worried.
@techyescity
@techyescity 2 жыл бұрын
@@araisikewai yeah I think that's the best way too. Will make that happen.
@peterstainburn2871
@peterstainburn2871 2 жыл бұрын
Ryzen chips, especially the lower core chips are exceptionally good at undervolting. I left my 5600x at normal clock speeds whilst just lowering voltage. By doing so I managed to get my 5600X to run a R23 run at 4.6GHz with a -300mV undervolt. So whilst under stress it runs normal clock speeds at 990-1.06V. That’s a golden sample.
@danimagfernandes
@danimagfernandes 2 жыл бұрын
Do you recall if consumption changed? In my case I can only undervolt by 0.1125 (rock sample?), and it does run R23 at 4.35 instead of 4.0, but the R23 score is very comparable. The only way I can reduce consumption seems to be with fixed speed (e.g. 4000 MHz).
@joey_f4ke238
@joey_f4ke238 2 жыл бұрын
@@danimagfernandesYou can either set a max power draw or use a negative offset for the frequency as well in pbo. I personally did the latter with a very conservative -100mv and it is doing great so far. Max clock speed went down a bit, but the main thing is that the power draw went from 70 to 58 or so and it can still downclock for better idle consumption
@ranakirti
@ranakirti Жыл бұрын
How much drop in temp?
@Servaas
@Servaas Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this! I did not see on any of these videos if I could keep the speed at stock ratio. Thanks to your comment I know I can.
@rhys4427
@rhys4427 Жыл бұрын
I just did that and did a open benchmark test is says performing below expectations
@benjaminoechsli1941
@benjaminoechsli1941 2 жыл бұрын
I was literally thinking of looking up an undervolt guide this evening! More for the heat output than the electric bill, but saving money is always good. 😁 Looking forward to the graphics card guides as well, for sure!
@ghosttheoremproductions5469
@ghosttheoremproductions5469 2 жыл бұрын
Ability to undervolt doesn't necessarily translate to being able to use a cheaper MOBO and/or PSU. Since the quality of the power supplied to the cpu will directly translate to it's ability to hold a stable over/under clock. Cheaper PSUs will have more voltage-sag/dirtier-power and cheaper MOBOs will have fewer power phases. Those will reduce how far you can push things. The method for finding a stable reclock will be the same. You just wont be able to go as far.
@ghosttheoremproductions5469
@ghosttheoremproductions5469 2 жыл бұрын
@AmpEdition - Drawing less low quality power doesnt change the quality of the power.
@Shadowized
@Shadowized 2 жыл бұрын
I have to disagree, setting the clockspeed to a fixed value on modern Zen CPU's is just simply bad advice because it disables PBO boosting entirely. You claim at 27:11 that it's a "very minor drop in performance... only 2 to 3%", but you choose to leave out any game, browser, or lightly threaded workload comparisons that would contradict you. This comes off as lazy. There has been tons of documentation showing how good undervolting is on Ryzen, but your method... not so much. If your goal is simply power reduction you can adjust the EDC/PPT/TDC values for PBO and that will achieve the same sort of results while leaving the boost algorithm to do its thing. Similar power savings can also be achieved without losing any performance by undervolting and not touching the clockspeed as almost all Ryzen 3000/5000 series that I've seen can achieve around a 0.1 - 0.15v~ negative offset without much effort and in some cases you can gain performance because you reduce power(+heat) and allow the CPU to have more headroom to boost if it needs to. There are other methods like the Curve optimizer but those are not generally recommended for novice users.
@mroutcast8515
@mroutcast8515 2 жыл бұрын
exactly - games never load the CPU anywhere close to 100% so they take huge advantage of clock boost. I don't need lower power draw or temps on my R5 5600 so I just optimized for higher boost within stock PPT, TDC and EDC. Per core optimized undervolt curve, +200MHz max boost offset. Now in games it basically holds 4.65GHz (up from 4.45GHz stock at the same power draw), while in Cinebench R23 multicore is only about 4.35GHz (which can be obviously overcome by increasing stock power limits). If someone wants to reduce power draw (tho 30W will be still pennies in yearly bill) or temps - then do what I did and simply lower PPT limit to 50W. Then, with lighter workloads CPU will still boost higher than the stock but will never exceed PPT limit.
@IdiotRace
@IdiotRace 2 жыл бұрын
I was wondering why he wasn''t touching PBO at all? I thought maybe undervolting didn't play nice with it? But can you just keep PBO on and try a lower offset voltage while letting PBO do it's thing? Or is it even worth it?
@hardwire5000
@hardwire5000 2 жыл бұрын
@@IdiotRace I tried PBO along with undervolting and it caused some issues like CPUID could no longer detect my cores and Ryzen Master refused to load. For me at least it seems like one or the other but not both. (5600G)
@25566
@25566 2 жыл бұрын
You're right
@Kanivalos80
@Kanivalos80 2 жыл бұрын
His method is not optimal but still okey for low end mobos with stock cooler
@xFoxDeath
@xFoxDeath 2 жыл бұрын
The real deal is: PBO2 in "Advanced" > set PBO limits to "off" > then open Curve Optimizer, set negative curve and try to get stability starting by 30
@ailluinthethyra6139
@ailluinthethyra6139 2 жыл бұрын
The point of this undervolting guide is to save on electricity. You need to set the PPT lower or else the PBO2 algorithm would just push core clocks higher (if there is still thermal headroom) without lowering power usage.
@mroutcast8515
@mroutcast8515 2 жыл бұрын
@@ailluinthethyra6139 then you fucking set PPT limit to 50W or so, jeez... and still get massive boost clocks in lower workloads, like gaming.
@temporaltomato3021
@temporaltomato3021 2 жыл бұрын
@@mroutcast8515 Little aggressive, but exactly right. This video is a little misinformative, as you *will* get the magic temp decreases, but less so at idle, and you'll lose a lot of performance if you're not slamming the CPU with full load constantly for your daily use case.
@TDP808
@TDP808 2 жыл бұрын
Is Curve optimizer only on Zen3?
@kiankit
@kiankit 2 жыл бұрын
Set it to 25 still crash.. 20 still crash.. 15 still like stock nothing special.. did i do wrong way?
@timreeves
@timreeves 2 жыл бұрын
Great guide! A few stats for my 5800x in case anyone else is interested. All figures taken from cpuid (NOT the bios, on my msi board, a -0.025v offset resulted in a 0.23v delta!). dynamic boost had it going up to 4.7Ghz at stock, I locked it down to 4.4Ghz, any higher required significantly more voltage. Stock - 1.3v - 145W package - 85c with my custom loop ramping up to full speed - 15200 points in cinebench After - 1.07v - 97W package - 66c with my loop keeping all fans and pumps at minimum - 14900 points I saw my board offered a 95W eco mode under the PBO settings, so thought I'd see if that did any better... PBO 95W - 1.2v - 122W package - 78c with fans ramping up somewhat - 14900 points It did MUCH worse! Thankyou for keeping my PC super silent, even when gaming, I'm going to give your Nvidia underclocking guide a run through later to see if I can save some more power from my 3080ti.
@SirWolf2018
@SirWolf2018 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this info!
@shikihayate
@shikihayate 2 жыл бұрын
So your core voltage is 1.07 and your cpu ratio is 44x right ? Interesting, I will try it on my rig to see how it turns out
@Psyko_Blood
@Psyko_Blood 10 ай бұрын
My Mainboard can PBO2, so I take a negative -30 on all cores. Then on all cores -125Mhz (because it boostet to 4.846Ghz on default) so thats on stable 4.716Ghz. PBO Limits disabled. My temps are now 73°C max in Cinebench, from 83-84°C, with NO performance loss. I have the same performance (sometimes a little bit higher then default) In gaming it was before 70-76°C and now ~55°C and 61°C max xDDD Thats so crazy.. Cooling is a 280mm (2x 140mm Fans) Radiator in the top. in front i have 3x 120mm and at the back 1x 120mm for good Airflow. Mainboard is a Gigabyte Aorus Elite V2. Easy Undervolt and 10-15°C better temps xD
@robertkubrick3738
@robertkubrick3738 2 жыл бұрын
Relatively small decreases in voltage can improve temperatures greatly. If you totally lost the silicon lottery even 40mv can help more towards cooling than switching to thermal grizzly kryonaut as a thermal interface.
@myworld2015
@myworld2015 2 жыл бұрын
YOU SAVED MY LIFE. THANK YOU. Brand new Custom build was running over 95C in games and with undervolting .12500 MV is a perfect sweet spot for me. Hovering around 70C while gaming now. Thank you so much.
@giorx5
@giorx5 2 жыл бұрын
Ryzen Master has the curve optimizer tool to do UV(=less power and temps) without losing performance. In order to consume less power, it is even easier to just power limit the CPU in the BIOS down to 45W (minimum) and keep the high single core boost. For Intel or old AMD CPUs though, this type of UV you showed in the video is the best one.
@benq994
@benq994 Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately RM doesn't work on laptops:/
@giorx5
@giorx5 Жыл бұрын
@@IM_MOUNTAIN Agreed! I lowered the figures Ryzen Master CO test per core suggested by 2 for the higher ones, iow the -30 to -28, -29 to -27 and system is stable.
@bigj1454
@bigj1454 10 ай бұрын
@@giorx5 What CPU do you have, as I found, earlier today, that Ryzen Master does not support the Ryzen 5500.
@giorx5
@giorx5 10 ай бұрын
@@bigj1454 I have a Ryzen 5 5600.
@bigj1454
@bigj1454 10 ай бұрын
@@giorx5 After watching this video (because I have an unstable system at high load) and reading the comments, I tried the BIOS fix, but have a GIGABYTE Aurus Elite x570 motherboard and all the settings are in different places and maybe not labelled the same as in the Asus, so I scrapped that idea and just moved the Curve Optimiser to -5. Mainly because the CPU not supported in Ryzen Master as well. So far I passed all the stress tests in OCTT, and 4 hours in a game that crashed after 2 or 3. Crazy - I was thinking maybe the PSU was getting spikes in power draw and was/am thinking of swapping for a £200 upgerade with 1200W (nerly twice the recommended). but maybe it's all because of AMD/Gigasbyte settings that are too close to the edge of stability? Time will tell.
@araisikewai
@araisikewai 2 жыл бұрын
A tip to those who want to start undervolt/overclock after an upgrade of CPU : Clear CMOS after change of CPU before starting the undervolt/overclock journey. Else you might get unstable error when testing.
@fajaradi1223
@fajaradi1223 Жыл бұрын
So, setting UEFI to default is not enough?
@DennisTheZZZ
@DennisTheZZZ Жыл бұрын
After watching this tutorial, I somehow managed to get my Ryzen 7 5700X to a voltage of 1 Volt (it occasionally dips beneath a Volt), with a temperature of 35-52 degrees, depending on load, with an average wattage of just under 30 Watts! Thank you so much, now I can actually use my computer in the summer and not have 33 degrees ambient temperature in my room at night!
@Aldsomegaming
@Aldsomegaming Жыл бұрын
I have the same CPU. it does not let me drop to .15 as well xd but damn! a lot of decrease from 78 to only 55W!
@jorgealarcon2062
@jorgealarcon2062 Жыл бұрын
Can you share the parameters of your config please?. I need to compare something. Thanks...
@kytv9000
@kytv9000 Жыл бұрын
What's the point of posting only power and thermal number without performance stats. You can unplug the PC and it draws 0 Watt.
@mr.mok7
@mr.mok7 Жыл бұрын
What voltage and frenquency plz ?
@carlmarley3017
@carlmarley3017 9 ай бұрын
@@mr.mok7I have my ryzen 5700x running 42.75@1.050v
@peki100
@peki100 2 жыл бұрын
Brian, by setting a fixed 4Ghz, you actually increased power in idle. By default your CPU dropped to 3HGhz in idle at ~8W, but when fixed at 4Ghz it consumed ~12W in idle.. It's 4W difference, but it adds up over time, especially if you're like me and never switch off your PC.
@mikeymaiku
@mikeymaiku 2 жыл бұрын
Damn dude 4watts
@peki100
@peki100 2 жыл бұрын
@@mikeymaiku Well, if you're saving 23 watts 4 hours in a day, but then wasting 4 watts during other 20 hours, you tell me how much power you saved? Which was the purpose of the video.
@maestrohun
@maestrohun 2 жыл бұрын
4W 0-24 means 35kWh a year. 35kWh charge with an EV means 290km - 160km travel distance. 35kWh means ~ 3500 slice of baked toast bread. :)
@mroutcast8515
@mroutcast8515 2 жыл бұрын
what do you expect when this guide is on the level of The Verge PC building guide? 😏😂 - YES , that's how bad this guide is.
@mikeymaiku
@mikeymaiku 2 жыл бұрын
@@peki100 your litterally counting fractions of a penny, at some point there is a huge waste in counting this. if you want to save your 4w maybe buy a 10w minipc and just use streaming services for anything gaming related. do you really care your paying a extra 20-30 cents a month because your pc is on? because me mining nonstop on a single rtx 3070 increased my monthly power cast by only 3 dollars, and i am using 150w vs your 4w saved. theres a point where you shouldnt care and highlighting the 4w savings in such a hilarious way makes me just laugh since... yes im sure anyone with a moderate pc can afford 4 watts of consumption on thier monthly power bill.
@jb678901
@jb678901 2 жыл бұрын
Been using Bryan's OC tutorial for years. Really helped me setup my XEON E5-1680v2 on an ASUS P9X79 Pro. Temps-voltages...all good and stable (while air cooled) over the last 3 years.
@SiCSpiT1
@SiCSpiT1 2 жыл бұрын
Quick run down; R7 5800x default PBO + -30(curve optimizer) all core R23 score = ~15700-15800 @ 142W, ~82C (~20Cish ambient) Locked the core clock to 4.6Ghz @ 1.2V R23 score = ~15500-15600 @ 108W, ~68C Almost 25% less power for 2% less performance. You can't beat that by lowering the PPT.
@RomanHouse
@RomanHouse Жыл бұрын
Video is unfortunately many months old, but still just want to thank you for this excellent guide. My newest 7700-build is great, but was running a bit hot and frequently pushing the fan-noise a bit more than I wanted. Now the temperatures have gone down a lot, so the fans are extremely quiet in game as well, and against all logic, gaming experience and all tested benchmarks are still as good as before. Double upvote.
@Phenom98
@Phenom98 Жыл бұрын
That's crazy efficient. Although 4ghz is a little low for my 5700x and 4060ti combo. I pushed it to 4.55 @1.15v and it sips around 60w while gaming, stays at 60°C. I love these processors 2 years later
@Sam_Bush
@Sam_Bush Жыл бұрын
Hi I have a Ryzen 5700x aswell and I have high temps on some games. What did u set the core ratio to exactly as the vid shows 40.00 and how much voltage did u take away in the bios?
@Gyneco-Phobia
@Gyneco-Phobia Жыл бұрын
Games nowadays don't push the CPUs almost at all. Did you try stress tests for the cores? With 1.15V I can only achieve around 4350Mhz on full stress without getting any errors or resets. This on my 5600X. I run mine at 0.9V @3800Mhz for everything I do or 1.05V @4200Mhz when I game.
@Gyneco-Phobia
@Gyneco-Phobia Жыл бұрын
@@Sam_Bush These CPUS truly benefit from a good CPU-Cooler in case you want results. As I said above, mine runs at 4200Mhz full stressing cores with 1.05V and temps don't ever go above 60C. The original CPU-Cooler wasn't only noisy, but when you want results, it really throttles the CPU itself since it was going easily above 90C when I was trying 4400Mhz only with 1.2V. Nowadays, the smaller the lithography of the CPU, the more you're going to benefit from a good cooler. Also, you don't need an expensive one. Do a little research. The "Assassin" gives amazing results for a decent price. Easily outperforms extremely expensive coolers. Do your research, buy smartly.
@Sam_Bush
@Sam_Bush Жыл бұрын
@@Gyneco-Phobia Hi is my CPU cooler good enough. I got a nzxt 240mm kraken aio.
@TimothyStovall108
@TimothyStovall108 2 жыл бұрын
Been rocking a 5800x for about 8 months, and when I first got put it in I was hitting 90C stock in CB20 on an NH-D15S. Figured out it was the setting's the mobo was applying (B450 Tomahawk Max). I messed around with PBO, and max was 85C-86C. Upgraded to an X570 Unify, and stock found its Mobo settings to be almost exactly what my PBO settings were on the B450, and again hitting 86C max. Leaving everything stock, except RAM profile, I added a negative voltage offset of .1V, and allowed the CPU to boost to whatever with that voltage offset. I did try lower voltages, but I started to get clock stretching, and my performance dropped considerably. With the .1V (-) offset temps are down to 72C max, using 20 less watts, and actually didn't lose any performance in CB20. Still boost to 4.8Ghz single core as well, but is much quieter doing so. lol Before while gaming, the 5800x was running louder and hotter on the NH-D15 than the 3080 12GB I got a couple of weeks ago. I checked paste and reseated the cooler a couple of times now, and came to the conclusion this thing just runs kinda warm. With the undervolt, on both the CPU and GPU, I hope it helps to keep my room a little cooler through this west Texas summer, but in the winter I do have my "heater" settings. lol
@TimothyStovall108
@TimothyStovall108 2 жыл бұрын
Aright, been experimenting a little more, and got my settings about locked it. I locked my 5800X to 4.6Ghz @ 1.29375V (Any lower and it was unstable) Scored 80 points less than my best score in CB20, while using 40W less power, and maxing at 67C from 86-87C. I think I'll take that trade off! Thanks for the video to help provide a little more understanding about how to extract the most out of these chips.
@darkangeldafu
@darkangeldafu 2 жыл бұрын
I have a 5800X undervolt -0.15 and power curve optimizer -15 =13136 multicore score. Down from 15113 max score but Temps maxed out at 65 with 30 min stability test. Temps was around 80 before.
@antoniof0nty
@antoniof0nty Жыл бұрын
On my ryzen 5700X I have managed to set 4.2Ghz @ 1.05V. I advise you to use OCCT, it is more aggressive than cinebench. With cinebench it had no errors up to 1.02V, but with occt it did, because this is more aggressive stressing the CPU.
@clintonkinchen661
@clintonkinchen661 Жыл бұрын
Hi Bryan, i don't have as many settings in my budget bios as in your video. However, I did set a static 1.025v @ 4ghz in my bios and now get ~15c lower temps in games. Combined with an undervolt on my rx 6700xt, I've dramatically lowered system power consumption. Thanks tons for your fantastic tutorial videos.
@jimtekkit
@jimtekkit 2 жыл бұрын
On Ryzen you can change PPT to get lower total power draw, even though it's not technically undervolting it can help with temperatures in a similar way. You can also change the number of active cores (I forget what the setting is called) but it doesn't really improve power draw unless you're running less than half of the cores active.
@xeridea
@xeridea 2 жыл бұрын
I used PBO with around 100mv offset, and manually limited power. CPU runs 100MHz faster all core, with ~20% less power. A note on cheap power supplies. They are likely to have higher voltage ripple, which makes undervolts more unstable. I also tend to get instability at idle, or after stopping a test so it is important to test all scenarios, and bump up voltage slightly if you have intermittent crashes.
@JACS420
@JACS420 Жыл бұрын
Crashes probably because you didn’t reset cmo’s after messing with your memory timings. This is why you don’t watch dorks on KZbin with failed IT careers talk you into electrical engineering. AMD fabric clocks by default are meant for sustainability. You can have a 5.0ghz oc but use 5 watts on idle. You are actually down tiering performance under volts, vs playing with voltage delivery. You are probably also using more power To render lighter work loads.
@nafizalzakaria3511
@nafizalzakaria3511 Жыл бұрын
I got amazing result following yor video. I have the same cpu ryzen 5500. My scores on cinebench are 10002 after undervolting by 0.200 . And the temps went down from 92 degrees to 71 with the stock cooler.
@jaassil
@jaassil 9 ай бұрын
You mah boy! 😘
@MadBlazer89
@MadBlazer89 2 жыл бұрын
I think undervolting with a slight underclock is the greatest thing to do to CPU's GPU's in desktops and in laptops too...especially in laptops, if you don't care about a few FPS loss that is probably unnoticeable anyway.
@jimtekkit
@jimtekkit 2 жыл бұрын
Setting maximum CPU power state to 99% on battery to disable boost clocks makes the world of difference to battery life.
@christophervanzetta
@christophervanzetta 2 жыл бұрын
@@jimtekkit This doesn’t work on my desktop running a 5800X.
@grlmgor
@grlmgor 2 жыл бұрын
@@christophervanzetta It should work don't know why you would.
@braedonsavage1946
@braedonsavage1946 10 ай бұрын
Pro tip: most boards support booting directly into BIOS through Windows Advanced Startup. You can initiate this through holding SHIFT while clicking Restart on your PC (or through Windows Settings > System > Recovery > Advanced Startup). Once the 'Choose an option' menu appears > select Troubleshoot > Advanced options > UEFI Firmware Settings. This will boot you directly into your BIOS without having to spam F2/delete and potentially missing it on boot.
@Mioxitty
@Mioxitty 10 ай бұрын
I want to thank you because I knew very little about over and underclocking for the e past year. I’ve been running my CPU at 85 to 90 Celsius for the last year. I am now getting 68-70 degrees as well as better performance with my ryzen 5 5600X. I am also getting a significant degrease in power consumption, going from 75W down to around 45W
@hquan1
@hquan1 9 ай бұрын
Did you set all core ratio to 40 (4.0ghz) like his or let it auto (which is 3.8ghz base clock and 4.6ghz boost clock)?
@Mioxitty
@Mioxitty 9 ай бұрын
@@hquan1 went from 4.6 default down to 4.0 like his
@gabrielwong1991
@gabrielwong1991 2 жыл бұрын
Tech yes’s method is actually easier to tune than PBO2 because in PBO2 you not only shifts the frequency-voltage mapping but also tilt it. The “tilt-ness” is represented by the “-30” number. Tilting the curve might make the CPU stable at full load but might not be stable at any mid workload (e.g. games) when frequency is switching rapidly. This is extremely hard to tune (even more so with “per core” setting). Not only that without switching C-state your cpu response is quicker.
@SiCSpiT1
@SiCSpiT1 2 жыл бұрын
Why not do both?
@gabrielwong1991
@gabrielwong1991 2 жыл бұрын
@@SiCSpiT1 yes that is exactly a premium feature in ASUS Corsair 8 hero motherboard and that board is expensive. You can’t do this in normal board. For that premium feature, it will go manual oc with all core workloads to maximize all core boost clock speed and use pbo2 in single core workload to maximize single core boost clock
@SiCSpiT1
@SiCSpiT1 2 жыл бұрын
@@gabrielwong1991 I meant using PBO2 and offsetting the voltage.
@gabrielwong1991
@gabrielwong1991 2 жыл бұрын
@@SiCSpiT1 ok, so in frequency voltage curve pbo2 tilts the curve exponentially (the pbo -30 offset). If you add or substract voltage you essentially shifts the x axis (voltage) left and right. So if you don’t get stable enough in auto (0) voltage offset in pbo2 you either crashing pc ( reduce voltage) or generating too much heat (add voltage) whereby reducing pbo2 boost clock. That is because pbo2 boost under the triangle thing… the heat, voltage, tdp something like that I can’t remember
@SiCSpiT1
@SiCSpiT1 2 жыл бұрын
@@gabrielwong1991 it's ppt tdc and edc. I use the pbo and the pbo offset for awhile now, but lately I'm investing if it's a good idea use pbo with a manual voltage offset. I haven't had much success today because I recently upgraded my mobo and haven't fully wrapped my head around this asrock bios yet.
@rev3rsekanga114
@rev3rsekanga114 2 жыл бұрын
I spent a couple hours with the curve optimiser on my 5900X system and had pretty good results. Went from the ludicrous 200 watts @ 85 celcius my Aorus master was pumping in to 145 watts @60 celcius and kept all the performance.
@YoStu242
@YoStu242 2 жыл бұрын
Pretty huge bump in efficiency there
@Lord_Ralph
@Lord_Ralph 2 жыл бұрын
Curve Optimiser is the best way to undervolt Ryzen.
@MarceloPlaza
@MarceloPlaza 2 жыл бұрын
@@Lord_Ralph It is more an overclock. With less voltage you get higher clocks until the core limit. PBO Limits are a wall, so it kinds of hold voltages and consumption. But yes it is a great way to get some performance with the same consumption.
@Carlos_Teixeira_Drums
@Carlos_Teixeira_Drums 2 жыл бұрын
thanks for the video ! cant wait for the rest !!! so excited !
@bigjoeangel
@bigjoeangel 2 жыл бұрын
I undervolted my R7 2700X with an offset of -0.11250V and saved 43W at max while running Cinebench 20, went from 133W to 90W. The score went from 3762 to 3718 so its hardly any perf drop. My CPU max temp went from 79C to 62C. this was the limit with my system though, any less voltage and it wouldn't post.
@rodrigopinchiari4027
@rodrigopinchiari4027 Жыл бұрын
I have a R7 5700x and I've set my voltage to -0.102mv. Got around 13k in Cinebench. Temps around 50's and the performance is amazing. Thanks!!!
@future4830
@future4830 6 ай бұрын
whats is the total power draw and will all 8 cores still function well in editing videos bro?
@gecsus
@gecsus 2 жыл бұрын
From day one, I under-volted my Ryzen 9 3900X on an Asrock X570 Taichi MB, and it clocks all core at 4 GHz @ 1.1 vdc. Stable for nearly 2 years now. Runs cool with my Be Quiet Dark Rock Pro 4 and runs at full load at about 53 C.
@Spencer_White
@Spencer_White 2 жыл бұрын
ha ace! this is my set up, good to know
@mindrover777
@mindrover777 2 жыл бұрын
4 ghz all the time?
@gecsus
@gecsus 2 жыл бұрын
@@mindrover777 Turbo is higher... 4.6Ghz
@Wushu-viking
@Wushu-viking 2 жыл бұрын
If baseclock is enough for you, most Zen 2 and 3 CPU's can be undervolted to use around 50% power vs stock settings. Works wonders with my Ryzen 9 3950X (16c/32t CPU using 80W @max load, and running cool). Baseclock is plenty for most. I Can't feel any difference, other than my fans running silently, and not spinning up/down on dynamic CPU loads.
@jonnypeace2810
@jonnypeace2810 2 жыл бұрын
Managed to undervolt my 5600g using your method (4.1ghz -200mv), and an ffmpeg benchmark encode comparison.... 5600g auto = 1330.86s (33.02 fps) 5600g u/v = 1348.19s (32.60 fps) Meanwhile my temperatures from stock cooler went from 77 deg C to 55 deg C. Perfect! I'm using Linux for this, but in windows i did notice i've shaved off ~ 30-35watts power at load. I think the idle watts were less noticable,, i'm not sure if it's placebo, but it seemed to idle from 20-25w, down to 15-20w. I will probably check this later with power drawn from the wall and see what the difference is there, but i'm pretty happy with the performance gains, thanks :)
@djafar699
@djafar699 2 жыл бұрын
why don't you just undervolt and leave the clock speed as auto so it goes down from 4ghz when there is no load on the system?
@a-job7276
@a-job7276 2 жыл бұрын
A shortcut can be created to go directly to the UEFI from the desktop. This is what to copy and paste: shutdown /r /fw /f /t 0 To shut down the PC normally (with fast boot): shutdown /s /hybrid /t 0 You change the icon to one you like and that's it.
@Aimezcs
@Aimezcs Жыл бұрын
Of 79-82°C to 57-59°C on ryzen 5600 whit cooler stock. Thanks. Reallt good video. The performance is more stable now. No fps drops.
@kitnoman
@kitnoman 2 жыл бұрын
This is awesome! but there's nothing more frustrating or envious, than going in excited with undorvolting and then realizing your cpu is below average in terms of silicon lottery lol
@YoMateo.
@YoMateo. 2 жыл бұрын
Whoever’s reading this, I pray that whatever your going through gets better and whatever your struggling with or worrying about is going to be fine and that everyone has a fantastic day! Amen-
@jb678901
@jb678901 2 жыл бұрын
Born-again-crytpo-miner, per chance?
@RyugaHidekiOrRyuzaki
@RyugaHidekiOrRyuzaki 2 жыл бұрын
Brian look into PBO Curve Optimizer, it's harder to optimize but more efficient.
@araisikewai
@araisikewai 2 жыл бұрын
It's not that much harder at all. Latest Ryzen Master can calculate and suggest value to input for per core CO. It's pretty much no brainer at all. It's still a good practice to do a stress testing for their suggested values though. Especially if the PC is being used for important non-gaming workload.
@RyugaHidekiOrRyuzaki
@RyugaHidekiOrRyuzaki 2 жыл бұрын
@@araisikewai I didnt know that, good to know. Tuning the offsets manually per core takes time to achieve stability. I've had to reset my bios settings so I've done it twice and both times I was getting BSODs at idle for at least a few weeks. At least if you want the absolute max undervolt.
@araisikewai
@araisikewai 2 жыл бұрын
@@RyugaHidekiOrRyuzaki If you have previously upgraded CPU using the same motherboard, make sure to clear CMOS. There might be some redundant setting from previous CPU hidden somewhere that affect your current setting. I had that problem where it keeps throwing out error when I stress test them whatever I did, even on default. One clear CMOS later, it resolve the issue. Also, it's better to have per core CO because most likely the best core already in very tight setting and can't accept high offset. While the other cores can still accept looser setting. My 5600X for example has a setting of -10, -17, -28, -23, -29, -15 I haven't stress test this one, though I have stress test on all core -15 without error for 1 hour duration.
@Carcass-3332
@Carcass-3332 2 жыл бұрын
i did this for my 5900x, it doesn't even reach 60c anymore running cinebench 5 passes in a row. 0.98v 4.1ghz all core. Still within spitting distance of PBO all core with literally 30-40c lower temps and half the power usage. As for the lacking single thread, i am not convinced it's worth much if only 1 or 2 cores can boost to 4.9. Most new games use more than 2 cores and old games run on almost anything.
@richardfarmer6570
@richardfarmer6570 2 жыл бұрын
Great results, looking forward to the Alder Lake testing.
@JohnSmith....
@JohnSmith.... Жыл бұрын
is clock speed reduction necessary ? or can be done without ? we are talking base speed or turbo speed ?
@sc337
@sc337 Жыл бұрын
I think it depends on the situation and also on your goal. Sometimes sacrificing 100 or 200Mhz can save you many Watts, and in reality you won't notice the -200Mhz difference. For me I usually either stick with stock clock speed + undervolt if I have a relatively weaker GPU, or stick with stock voltage + overclock if I have a relatively stronger GPU. Try experiment with you cpu behavior first
@RifterDask
@RifterDask 2 жыл бұрын
Did this via a -30 curve optimizer value on all cores with my 5500. I get 4450 MHz all core short boost with 4400 (give or take about 30mhz) maintained over the duration of a workload. Power draw ranges between 50-55 watts under an all-core workload. I probably have a golden sample, but do give it a try if you want to keep temps down during the summer.
@markhosein3899
@markhosein3899 Жыл бұрын
Has it been stable since you've done both undervolt?
@RifterDask
@RifterDask Жыл бұрын
@@markhosein3899 Yep. No issues.
@markhosein3899
@markhosein3899 Жыл бұрын
@@RifterDask That's awesome.I only asked because most reviews only talk about one of the other, never optimizing both. I will give it a go and see how it works out
@BNR_248
@BNR_248 2 жыл бұрын
My 10900k was around 1.3-1.4 load voltage out of the box. I set static voltage to 1.34 @ 5.1GHZ all core (before vdroop - so 1.288v on load), 4.9ghz cache. Dropped from 90 to 60 degrees average in games and had a much better all core frequency. Though i lost 200mhz single thread which doesnt really matter to me.
@SpyroCurtis
@SpyroCurtis 2 жыл бұрын
I did the same a month ago at 3900x my Mother board is Taichi 570x, it has an environment choice to use much less energy. I first downgrade PCIs, turned off the lightning and from cooler, don't forget your PCIs in my case 4th gen. For GPU i picked up old 1660 super, i had 3 monitors ultra wide 34' i left the one. Unplug anything SATA you don't need... if any i recommend not downgrade them, just unplug them from power. Summer here with 34c temp the CPU at benches like R23 before CPU going at 85c or more and the pc shutting down after the changes and power save profile in windows i repeat the tests i didn't say super differences at scores the max the cpu temp that reached in stress test was 42c max, My watt gadget at my power plug it consumed before all these 600watts now it says 190watts - 210watts.
@ybartekk
@ybartekk 9 ай бұрын
What settings will be good on ryzen7 5700x?
@necroshimura4465
@necroshimura4465 2 ай бұрын
I came here wondering the exact same thing
@hasanamen7286
@hasanamen7286 2 жыл бұрын
great content as always 👏
@H7DRV
@H7DRV Жыл бұрын
That is indeed very helpfull video , thank . Cant wait to try it on my CPU . Just one question . Is it necessary to lower the CPU frequency to try this method ?
@giantsnerd
@giantsnerd 10 ай бұрын
Cinebench is not adequate to test CPU stability. You can pass 5 runs of Cinebench and fail the first step of a Prime95 blend. If you are going to try this, use an appropriate tool to test stability like Prime95 or OCCT.
@N0N0111
@N0N0111 2 жыл бұрын
Why the points were going slightly higher is that the CPU build in boost curve by AMD can boost longer on lower temperatures. This is what all extreme overclockers do to achieve higher points, longer boost times are the hidden performance gem.
@velocityhdgamer1285
@velocityhdgamer1285 2 жыл бұрын
the clock was fixed dude
@ThenVersusNow_
@ThenVersusNow_ 2 жыл бұрын
This is how misinformation is spread.
@floycewhite6991
@floycewhite6991 5 ай бұрын
Disable turbo boost? Laptops with a discrete GPU often share the heatsink with the CPU. So I used to disable turbo boost to help with heat (or buy laptops with an I-5 that didn't have turbo boost). Nowadays, with desktop CPUs pushed to the limit, it still makes perfect sense to disable turbo boost. If AMD BIOS doesn't have a one-click solution, just lower the ratio to the base clock. You can still undervolt it for even cooler running. Then if you plan to run a game or program that requires more oomph, you can always change the BIOS setting back for more performance.
@joviliro
@joviliro 2 жыл бұрын
Managed to get a stable undervolt on my ryzen 9 5900x on Asus x570 mini itx mb to -0.100 mv. Max temps just under 60c with cores running at 62.44 W, package at 102.98 W which is about a 20% reduction. Not bad. Will keep these settings until I get a bsod. Cinebench 23 gave me a score of 19448* about a 2% drop. Fantastic tip and much appreciated ☺️👍
@uk4890
@uk4890 2 жыл бұрын
I had basically the same results with my 5900X and the same settings thats amazing
@mindrover777
@mindrover777 2 жыл бұрын
That's fantastic. Could you explain the steps to achieve this
@joviliro
@joviliro 2 жыл бұрын
@@mindrover777 hi mindrover777, I basically followed Yes Tech City's instructions using the first modest settings he described. Good luck with your attempt 👍
@mindrover777
@mindrover777 2 жыл бұрын
@@joviliro thanks 👍
@Physics072
@Physics072 Жыл бұрын
Under volting can lead to system errors, blue screens scrabbled data etc. Its taking your computer out of spec into a unknown areas of stability. You can have a system that seems stable only to tiny errors going on but does not lead to a crash. There is no hard line of safe/error its trial and error. Some people think a system is stable but it was producing silent errors for weeks. Waiting for a total crash is a crude way of determining stability.
@cikayika8388
@cikayika8388 2 жыл бұрын
It's 3% on multicore, but check difference on single core, because that's what matters in games. Also fixing core clock is not power efficient, like someone above said it's gonna increase your idle power consumption, so you are not decreasing power consumption by 33%. I follow your channel for a long time and love your videos, but this one is misleading, especially for beginners, and I have to totally disagree on your approach here, this is not right way to do it. You would be much better off with playing with PBO and curve optimizer, where you can use CO to underclock same way you did here without losing core clock speed.
@tbreade
@tbreade 2 жыл бұрын
Unless you disable all power management and c-states cores with no load still go to sleep, even with fixed clock. Also, getting a stable overclock with a curve optimizer is a royal pain in the ass, it likes to crash when you're doing absolutely nothing.
@1Tubevideo
@1Tubevideo 2 жыл бұрын
Can you please link a good guide to do that? Thank you.
@MH-S-99
@MH-S-99 Жыл бұрын
Is PBO available for 3000 series?
@Jwebbplayz
@Jwebbplayz Жыл бұрын
Before I open the door on my rig I always make sure to flip the switch on the psu, push power to purge build-up, and gently man-handle the metal body of my case before I go in.
@timouton3178
@timouton3178 Жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot. I've been trying multiple ways to undervolt my Ryzen 5900x and only yours gave me a successful result : - 15 degrees, - 40 watt (0.1 offset was the limit for me but it's quite efficient). Cheers from France !
@argcades
@argcades 2 жыл бұрын
In my case i did not want to lose any performance but while drawing the same or less power: My final result with Ryzen 5 5600 (NON X) is: -0.075v at 4.3ghz, so... i only lose boost (around 140/150mhz), but the normal clock speed when rendering (wich was 4.25ghz at stock settings) ramped to 4.3... Finally, my score was higher, around 300 points, my power draw was less, about 15W peak and same draw or less at idle, and my temps are 8°C less (max). Nice and easy to follow tips in your video, i dont want to lose any performance in my case but its amazing what you can get with little tweaking in voltage mainly.
@ivo3598
@ivo3598 2 жыл бұрын
There is no need with decent cooler like 240/360aio or noctua i myself with 5950x never undervolt perfect temps i heared 5800x running very hot
@kyleshoestock1088
@kyleshoestock1088 2 жыл бұрын
Do you have a stable setup for 3400g? Would be really helpful thank you
@ebalonix3508
@ebalonix3508 Жыл бұрын
A stress test via OCCT with AVX instructions enabled will show hardware errors on this configuration.
@jackass315
@jackass315 Жыл бұрын
for anyone with msi b450 gaming max wondering if you can do this , yes you can , already set a 0.2 offset on my 5800x3d and temps are down by 20c while gaming , insane , finally some peace and quiet , also you can do this in the bios now
@Eternalduoae
@Eternalduoae 2 жыл бұрын
Great tutorial video. Laid everything out nice and simple! Honestly, so few resources that are short sweet and to the point these days. And many written articles are either outdated or a bit wrong (usually just on user forums). My GPU is undervolted and now, after watching this, my CPU will be too. Next adventure is the RAM timings which I want to bring down a little if I'm able...
@dersaureapfel
@dersaureapfel 2 жыл бұрын
Good that i found your video, it was dificult for me to undertsant because the other videos were with another bios, but with you i did understand it and it improved my temperatures amazingly
@mzwandula
@mzwandula 2 жыл бұрын
My older Zen2 Ryzen 9 3900X crashed at -0.15V offset undervolting at stock clock but runs stable at -0.1V offset. Left the clock alone to let the CPU ramp up the speed on demand as usual. Cinebench gave me 18400 points, not that bad for a system I build 2 1/2 years ago :)
@ShampooTime
@ShampooTime 2 жыл бұрын
I know they can't prove it, but does undervolting also void warrenty like over clocking? and i'm not sure if this is true but i think with overclocking over time you have to increase voltage to maintain those high over clocks due to chip degradation, was wondering if underclocking was the same, where you would have to slightly increase voltage to maintain the underclocks over time? Love your content keep up the great work :)
@SISSYPUSS
@SISSYPUSS 2 жыл бұрын
A CPU can absolutely record voltages, they also do "wetness" and short-circuit detection, they can also prove it! Where is this idea of degradation coming from, there isn't much of that occurring in consumer grade CPU's. CPU's are very HIGH quality and they're durable. CPU's would make an automaker cry in their Wheaties if cars and CPU's were routinely compared. What happens with undervoltages is the chip-level logic gate(s) may 'fault' - miss a bit, and in that case it returns (what may be) an incorrect result. Software has no defense for incorrect values so then, it may march on unaware, or it may lock up and/or crash. It's pretty simple. To avoid that problem use enough voltage to "push" the transistors with reliability.
@ShampooTime
@ShampooTime 2 жыл бұрын
@@SISSYPUSS oh wow, good to know, thanks for that explaination :) i would love to watch something explaining how manufacturers prove these things, but i would asume they would be trade secrets, but would make a great video :)
@arifnurabidin2509
@arifnurabidin2509 6 ай бұрын
On asrock b550 hdv I couldnt find any offset menu Theres only one i understand Set speed cpu (maybe fixed) And set voltage cpu too (maybe fixed) How much normal cpu voltage value? Im using ryzen 5600 too
@arifnurabidin2509
@arifnurabidin2509 5 ай бұрын
Updated : already founded , curve optimzer menu, i can ofset minus 30 co
@Matt-gf4gd
@Matt-gf4gd 2 жыл бұрын
I'm switching from PBO to your method after watching this. Locked my 7600x to 5.2ghz all core at 1.2v (from 1.25) with a 100mv offset as well. Seems stable. Cinebench is just about as fast as with PBO boosting to 5.45ghz, but my power draw went from around 100w to 75w and temps are cooler. Should be snappier overall locked at 5.2 versus boosting between 4-5.4 GHz... Idle power draw maybe went up a few watts, but nothing crazy. I'm pretty happy with 75w and high 50's temps at 5.2ghz.
@czbrat
@czbrat 2 жыл бұрын
this is a good indicator that cinebench is not that heavy of a workload
@rashoff
@rashoff 2 жыл бұрын
I use a program called HYDRA made by the guy who made the Ryzen DRAM calculator. Hated seeing my 5900X pull 110W while playing GPU-limited games. Configured it to pull about 75-80W instead. For me, it's more to control temps and for it to be more efficient than longevity, but they go hand in hand
@NixoSK
@NixoSK 2 жыл бұрын
I did not change the ratio on my Ryzen 5600X and did not restrict the automated functions of the CPU, just set offset voltage - 0,2 V to get stable all core 4624 MHz at 1,196 V and single core 4649 MHz at 1,186 V while max CPU temps was at 70°C. Seems more efficient for me, since whem I am just web browsing, the CPU voltage is at 0,876 V and 46°C at 3674 MHz. Btw. I am using Fractial Design 280 AIO, where the fans simply stops at PWM setting, when the CPU performance is not required (pump handles the fluid temps).
@christophervanzetta
@christophervanzetta 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve tried a -0.1V offset for the CPU and it seemed to work. You can down to -0.2V with no issues?? I tried on my 3700X and it usually crashes lol. Have a 5800X and a 5700X
@NixoSK
@NixoSK 2 жыл бұрын
@@christophervanzetta in stock settings, the 5600X tend to take more than 1,4 V at max performance and the TDP was much higher for me, the offset voltage aint set as a static one, but the target to reach for the CPU if possible (unless you manualy set the values which was unstable at offset -0,25 volts for me). As I wrote, the bios has good cooperation with the CPU needs regarding the voltages and also alowed my CPU to reach higher frequency even at lower voltages. Probably all the settings available in bios depend on the manufacturer and PBO version.
@grlmgor
@grlmgor 2 жыл бұрын
@@NixoSK Your CPU fans should never stop! Set them to the lowest RPM.
@NixoSK
@NixoSK 2 жыл бұрын
@@grlmgor depends on your fans settings. for AIO the pump should never stop, fans are just another temperature boost, when the fluid in the radiator gets hot.
@grlmgor
@grlmgor 2 жыл бұрын
@@NixoSK Still better then turn on and off your fans and the annoying ramping.
@blubblubee
@blubblubee 2 жыл бұрын
I’m consciously decoupling from tech and consumption right now. Appreciate that your vids are value conscious.
@jb678901
@jb678901 2 жыл бұрын
I knew of a fella who did the same. His first name was Ted. I think his last name began with a K.
@mordacain3293
@mordacain3293 2 жыл бұрын
Pretty good guide and it's not too far off of how i do it. I still usually leave the multiplier to Auto and as others have said, pretty much just maxing out the negative curve optimizer will boost the multi-core score. I also go for the max PBO core boost clock (+200) on these lower end Ryzens. I just rebuilt my sons computer using the 5600 and it's rock-solid and only consuming around 70W at max boost. My only other recommendation is to also undervolt the SOC. You don't get as much benefit as you do optimizing the vcore but if you're in for a penny, might as well be in for the pound. I'd also like to see you take a stab at a DRAM tuning guide. I am currently running through tuning my 5800X3D and the uplift in graphics performance is pronounced (350 point delta in Timespy). My aggressive 3200 Mhz tuning (CL13+very low sub-timings) is currently outperforming the 4000Mhz profile I had setup previously (CL17+ not quite as tightly tuned sub-timings) and the lower RAM speed has the benefit of requiring you to pump less voltage into the SOC. It might be too much for a video since there are SOO many sub-timings to modify but you can streamline the tuning by just using so simple shortcuts (like only dropping by 1 on single digit timings, 2 on timings in the 10-20 range and so on).
@benjaminboussier6025
@benjaminboussier6025 2 жыл бұрын
What i would like to see is if anyone tried to expose equivalences between each cpus..ex: this haswell cpu overclocled equal X( this cpu stock ) or Y this cpu downclocked and this for every cpus,old ones and new ones.. would serve 3 purposes, consumers wouldn't upgrade for nothing, so 1rst less e-wastes,2nd it's easier to advice or know what you have in order to reach edges of what you already have.. and 3,push constructors not to walk on their head, 0,5 to 3% upgrade is not a real upgrade.. sorry for my english.. what do you think?
@SISSYPUSS
@SISSYPUSS 2 жыл бұрын
It's probably impossible to create specific performance characteristics for each CPU, processors are currently divided (partitioned) by gaps (increments) as close as 50mhz. Equipment to test so many processors with accuracy is prohibitively expensive, and - someone has to setup and perform the testing. They want to be paid, too. Who's going to publish the encyclopedias of data generated, and how will consumers access it, do they even want it? No. The data needs to be updated with every new generation or step - meaning practically *every year*. Gas mileage is easy, equivalencies between CPU's are not. Linpack is an interesting performance test for large scale computers, google has more info on that.
@benjaminboussier6025
@benjaminboussier6025 2 жыл бұрын
@@SISSYPUSS would be open source,for and by the fans or consumers.. and what we all have is passion for datas so time is all we have to spend.. in order to stop being taken for fools with 0,5 to 3/4/5% upgrade for X more money grab.. they create, And new hard or software, And create lacks.. no need here.. no real bound between generations.. yes before avx, avx instruction set and avx 2 and ...etc but nothing really new, just slightly different or more.. it would be free to test, opened sources and,us being less blind or mistaken, it would put intel,nvidia, amd etc in pressure.. kind of in obligation for progress and inovation.. not for ewastes and moneygrab..in markets, superlatives are the easiest way to change a subject in object.. the fastest, the best, the biggest.. and pouf.. bye freewill.. and hi slavery! Hope being understood.. thx YES CITIZENS!
@SISSYPUSS
@SISSYPUSS 2 жыл бұрын
​@@benjaminboussier6025 it would first need clarity of purpose for the organization that's doing all the "free work", ie: from what you're saying one objective would be to FORCE companies into being more honest - in marketing - because you dislike marketing superlatives. I'm in the US and am very used to such terms, so that aspect probably wouldn't matter to me, it's neither good or bad, for me. A complaint about a "low value improvements" also doesn't mean much, because we skip parts that offer less improvement than we're interested in. I can design and implement CPU performance tests myself, but I cannot design "great" tests compared with another computer scientist, someone with 20+ years of designing CPU's and specific performance tests for them. No, hardly, their tests should smoke anything I come up with! Another side issue, the 'first in' folks for an initiative are often the first to leave, some leave as soon as better talent and experience arrive,, things can fall apart due to that. There are many more considerations, too, really - to many to mention. :)
@e3446
@e3446 2 жыл бұрын
Great tutorial, undervoltong is really handy in sff cases aswell, when you can't fit a large cooler. Although alot of sff now supports aios. Would love some insight from you on the curve optimizer feature on amd cpus aswell.
@insparks782
@insparks782 6 күн бұрын
I ended up just going to -0.25000 on my 5950X but I kept the core ratio set to auto. It therefore does still boost to 5.05 GHz though not quite as often as with the stock core voltage, but it now idles between 35 - 38 degrees C, and sits about 55 - 60 degrees during a Prime95 torture test. Idle package power usage is now about 45 watts and full bore it uses about 125 W. That's 20 watts lower than stock. I'm very happy with this because that's more in line with the 5800X I upgraded from.
@qubes8728
@qubes8728 2 жыл бұрын
Would have been nice to see before and after results for games rather than synthetic benchmarks, sure you didn’t crash during Apex but how much real world performance did you lose in Apex? Synthetic benchmarks don’t really mean much as far as gaming is concerned. I took 80w and 10 degrees Celsius out of my 3070(gpu) and only lost 5fps. My fans run slower as well. Definitely noticed how much less heat in in the room. As for my 5600x(cpu) it’s water cooled so I run it with PBO enabled +200mhz and let it do its thing. Playing Warzone so I need all the processing power I can get.
@FreshCoolBeer
@FreshCoolBeer 2 жыл бұрын
I've got my 5600X with the bios stock but the RAM on D.O.C.P. and the CPU voltage in Manual mode (fixed) at 0.9V. I hate setting a fixed CPU core clock on all cores/threads unless it's competitive overclocking, stock and letting it do it's thing it's better, specifically if you don't care one bit about competitive overclocking and scores. It peaks at 4650 MHz the CPU and GPU also undervolted to 850mV @ 1860 MHz or 950mV @ 2070 MHz (3060 Ti).
@AdroSlice
@AdroSlice Жыл бұрын
Wouldnt it be faster to pick a "likely borderline" offset and perform a sort of binary search to find the sweet spot?
@Djare915
@Djare915 2 жыл бұрын
Omg,Bryan that's the reason I've been followin' you all the time.This kind of videos.Regards from Serbia!
@florianthomas546
@florianthomas546 2 жыл бұрын
Careful! Depending on the Mobo & BIOS version outcome may be drastically different! On most other mobos changing the Core Ratio will set OC Mode and lock the Multiplier to the selected value which is bad for idle power consumption. Also undervolting by Offset voltage without locking the Multiplier will NOT WORK on Ryzen 5000 because the CPU will adjust the requested voltage by the same amount and negate any undervolting effects! In that case it is best to use the PBO Curve Optimizer in the BIOS PBO options and set a negative value like -20.
@alvydasjokubauskas2587
@alvydasjokubauskas2587 2 жыл бұрын
I just went with minus 16 pbo settings and called it a day...
@danimagfernandes
@danimagfernandes 2 жыл бұрын
I'm getting same temps, same consumption, with Offset voltage without locking the multiplier - like you said. Only way to lower consumption is to set (and I guess automatically lock?) the Core Ratio. Is that how it's supposed to work out on a 5600x? In any case, PBO Curve Optimizer at -20 also doesn't lower anything, only increases MHz, but it does improve R23 results than any other setting combo I tried.
@florianthomas546
@florianthomas546 2 жыл бұрын
@@danimagfernandes There should be a setting like Max. Boost Override if you set this to 0 it should force the CPU to stay in the stock boost table and lower the voltage. Thats how it works on my Asrock mobo at least...
@danimagfernandes
@danimagfernandes 2 жыл бұрын
@@florianthomas546, to use with the PBO curve optimizer, correct?
@florianthomas546
@florianthomas546 2 жыл бұрын
@@danimagfernandes Yes.
@slmjunior1
@slmjunior1 2 жыл бұрын
Good guide, like from Brazil!
@bobobobobobo4597
@bobobobobobo4597 2 жыл бұрын
I had no access to PBO setting in bios so my option was to use pbotuner which doesnt retain settings between reboot. I only ever had to undervolt gpus so i was so lost. You really demystified the process. Thank you. My cpu is cool and happy in my shoe box sized PC case.
@itsgeorgejones
@itsgeorgejones 2 жыл бұрын
17:00 this part made me feel so much better about my pc. I got the 5800X and I was always at like 55-60c idle but my Gaming temps were spot on stock, so I changed my negative offset to - 0.3 from 1.42V and the 0.3 was purple and I read it was bad but you helped clarify that for me. Now I get idle temps of 35-40c with a 20c room temp. (even with the undervolt my gaming temps and performance are still great I know you mentioned undervolting decreased performance but at this point I just want a stable PC haha. It runs faster than my old cpu, 1500X so Im happy lol
@ziggycustodio
@ziggycustodio 2 жыл бұрын
I just had my 5800x and having the same idle temps and with load it can reach up to 80c. i'll try undervolting soon and hopefully get a better temp. It's scary to see high temp on idle 😂
@brem9843
@brem9843 2 жыл бұрын
@@ziggycustodio same here with 5900x, doing this now until I can get better (and quieter) cooling for it
@zaferheretic-ro5kc
@zaferheretic-ro5kc Жыл бұрын
Will this work is in 5600h ?
@dagdriver4412
@dagdriver4412 2 жыл бұрын
where are those values for R7 and R9 ??
@SirWolf2018
@SirWolf2018 2 жыл бұрын
You have such a soothing voice, I'm straight but I would still prefer hearing yours than rougher voices. :) Plus great content!
@saberspecter
@saberspecter 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video Brian. I have a 5500 I've yet to install so I'll follow this in the future.
@MMBaconslice
@MMBaconslice 2 жыл бұрын
Reading my mind; just got a 5800x and a 6700xt and I want to undervolt both. Awesome idea for a serie of videos!
@alxnd_r6345
@alxnd_r6345 2 жыл бұрын
I have 5800x cooled with cm hyper212 rgb. Max temp at 100%load is 83c and thats on summer inside the h510 elite case... Without the front panel its 80c. I didnt do anything with the settings
@MMBaconslice
@MMBaconslice 2 жыл бұрын
@@alxnd_r6345 I get about 85c at full load pretty quickly with the same hyper212 cooler (non RGB here ;)) with just the stock fans of the Lian Li 011 air mini, inside at summertime. Would be nice to have about 70c at full load, IMO, which I am sure we can achieve. Can TechYes do this for us?
@alxnd_r6345
@alxnd_r6345 2 жыл бұрын
@@MMBaconslice I dont think its possible with any cooler other than custom loop. Even the dark rock pro will get above 70c at 100% usage. Only problem i have with cm212 is that its too loud. I keep it at 50% all the time.
@mindrover777
@mindrover777 2 жыл бұрын
Same here. 85 degree on max load. Did you manage to undervolt it?
@alxnd_r6345
@alxnd_r6345 2 жыл бұрын
@@mindrover777 im getting 90 at cinebench. Seems like its heavier than cpuz stress test. But its very hot now. It would be 85 usually
@TobyIKanoby
@TobyIKanoby 2 жыл бұрын
I had a PBO 2 curve optimization undervolt, which worked a bit hot but fine for a long time, because of many different reasons I recently encountered more heat problems which made it pretty unstable. Now I just turned off PBO 2 and did some undervolting as in the video ("dynamic vcore" in gigabyte BIOS). Quite a significant drop in Cinebench r23 (15000 to 14000) but in the few games I tested so far the performance drop is basically not noticeable and with way better temps. Works great. Thanks.
@JaggersMusic
@JaggersMusic Жыл бұрын
Witch cpu did you use?
@TobyIKanoby
@TobyIKanoby Жыл бұрын
@@JaggersMusic R7 5800X
@GN_Grizz
@GN_Grizz Жыл бұрын
@techyescity you mentioned you would put starting points for Ryzen 9 do you happen to have those.
@minnesnowtan9970
@minnesnowtan9970 Жыл бұрын
Before cinebench finished, my computer crashed. Ryzen 5-5500 with Asus Prime B450M A-II. Temp was at least 91c and voltage was 1.5 with speed being 38. CPU box label said up to 4.2GHz. Testing did show 3799. I brought it down .1v as you showed. Running cinebench now, temp is 72c max and speed is 3805 max so far. There was an Asus tune in BIOS that I had engaged but now disabled. I did have memory optimized as you had mentioned. So far in 1 step there has been significant improvement in heat. GPU is GT-1030 yeah what a monster. Pull from upgraded computer. That may put more work on the CPU. Does it?
@minnesnowtan9970
@minnesnowtan9970 Жыл бұрын
Dropped voltage to -.15, got 68c max, 9513 vs 9408 cinebench, and SSD was initially 32c and now 29c. Clock speed maxxed at 3818 and I made no changes but I might kick it up a bit. Wattage 47.23 down from 91.37! Unter volter uber alles! :-) Dropped Volts to -0.15625 clock to 3900 from 3800. 68.3c max. Cinebench 9782. Wattage 47.20. Max clock 3903. I will keep it here for now and run it normally, except that i will register windows with your code.
@t0mn8r35
@t0mn8r35 2 жыл бұрын
Good guide. Well done as always.
@saiprasad8078
@saiprasad8078 2 жыл бұрын
The chip in the video was a retail or review sample?
@justinpatterson5291
@justinpatterson5291 2 жыл бұрын
You've gotten better than a golden sample. You have a god tier mini chip.
@adamkorzon2972
@adamkorzon2972 Ай бұрын
Asrock has A tuning I just put it on power savings when just surfing, and gaming I just set it in the middle it is more than enough. I can get my temps down to 33c and gaming 68c,never have to set it on performance. You can tune you're fans as well.
@ckong3309
@ckong3309 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video. I've been lucky enough to lower my 5900x voltage from 1.500 by a .20 offset. Seems very stable so far. Idle temp is about 43C. Thanks again!
@YoStu242
@YoStu242 2 жыл бұрын
I'm running R7 2700X using .1V negatige offset and sometimes it gets stuck during boot with fans running wild but it's so rare that it doesn't matter, just hit reset button and then it starts up fine and works fine afterwards. Edit: also what I noticed was that Never Ever use Ryzen power plan if you want to save watts. Even if it has identical settings with other default power plans it constantly ramps up the CPU and consumes more watts for no apparent reason.
@jonnyking6808
@jonnyking6808 2 жыл бұрын
Great video of the golden cost do you have any measure numbers for the 7 5800x if so can you tell us
@raywood1624
@raywood1624 2 жыл бұрын
How does this compare to pbo on your test cpu? Great video
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