I wanna clear something up about Mastery Points. This is how the progression works. Mastering any individual "Version" of the weapon will grant you a Mastery Point. That mastery point can then be spent in the perk tree to unlock new perks. So the slow way to level these up is to simply buy each version and then play with them a bunch to get the EXP required to master that version. You can brute force a "version" by applying an Armoury Data to it instead and immediately get the mastery point for that version. In order to gain access to the green tier of versions, you'll need a green armoury data. From there you can spend armoury data to master those versions. To gain access to the purple tier versions, you'll need a purple armoury data to unlock them. And again, you can buy the versions and then level them up or apply purple data to them to fast-track them. Same for relic tier.
@jasonstamm11422 ай бұрын
I'm already maxed out for both my weapons in gold relic tier but I'm not getting anymore mastery points to level up the skill tree I don't get it
@phucletran28602 ай бұрын
@@jasonstamm1142to get mastery point, you need to master the weapons. Once you mastered the weapon, you dont get more mastery point. To get more, you can go back, and use those other (old) variants and master those to get more mastery point.
@jasonstamm11422 ай бұрын
@@phucletran2860 oooh okay thanks man I'll try it
@phucletran28602 ай бұрын
@@jasonstamm1142 youre welcome. You can auto master old weapon with armory data.
@Dargon1o12 ай бұрын
So you only get as many master points as there are version upgrades?! I wish I could unlock all the things in the weapon perk tree, darn :(
@scannerbarkly2 ай бұрын
Your understanding of Mastery Points is a little off, but that's pretty common right now because how they do a bad job of explaining. You have an Unranked variant of the Occulus in your Master-Crafted tier. You can rank that up and earn a Mastery Point with it. Each variant can be leveled individually, at all tiers, and will all result in a Mastery Point. If you go back and equip that weapon, take it into a mission, it will earn weapon level XP, and when it is maxed you will have your Mastery Point from it.
@NightWhisper84622 ай бұрын
Glad I saw someone post this as I was going to do the same, to further add to your point people can tell which weapon variants they have mastered by the gold symbol in the bottom right of the weapon variant selection, if you see a symbol then you have the mastery point.
@in0m4d242 ай бұрын
holy shit thank you, i had the same understanding as him and had no clue that's how it worked!
@thomasharrison14432 ай бұрын
I have an issue its saying that all weapons in the tear are leveled up but I'm still missing 200xp to progress
@NightWhisper84622 ай бұрын
@@thomasharrison1443 There are 2 sets of exp, one tied to each specific weapon variant and one tied to the weapon class, if you use a weapon that is already mastered you still gain exp towards reaching the next weapon tier.
@Zenmaster_0-0_2 ай бұрын
Thank you, I didn't understand why I wasn't earning xp on my weapons after the mission.
@goobdoi2110Ай бұрын
Boss fights can also happen in Average difficulty, as has happened to me on two separate occasions with both a Carnifex and a Neurothrope.
@cyberleaderandy1Ай бұрын
We had the chaos terminator turn up on the tombs run at the lowest level. so they can arrive anywhere it seems and got a green armoury token for beating it. This video is good as it explains mastery points which many dont do, thanks,
@volesprit2 ай бұрын
Thank you, finally a clear description and explanation on the leveling system :)
@andygh2 ай бұрын
Please create the potential data spawn locations
@floydkaius92272 ай бұрын
Yess please we need this
@sephirothx7x5142 ай бұрын
Loving the fact that you are doing other games than D2 TV and Warhammer in particular. I haven't played D2 in at least a month now. I bought the normal version so can't play until Monday but am looking forward to it. Looks great. Keep up the good work with the vids.
@reesethelegend86052 ай бұрын
I’ve been at this for like 7 plus hours with randoms. I don’t understand why it’s so hard to get just one purple material. All my teamates literally keep dying when we make it to the end. I really wish there was another way to get these materials because I don’t have anyone to play with and I legit cannot progress my weapons. It shouldn’t even let you in the difficulty if you’re not 10 or above as it is recommended to be 10 anyways.
@JACKAL982 ай бұрын
Nah it just should be guaranteed material box in every operation
@True_Judah2 ай бұрын
Purple are pretty tough to get. I’m just focusing on leveling as high as I can and hopefully find some friends who are high level, I’m a vanguard main
@Alexczy2 ай бұрын
@@JACKAL98 This... this would be the best solution
@georgejennings87432 ай бұрын
Yeah, it’s way too hard. I died to a tyrinid warrior after hitting it with a chainsword 15 times. Very frustrating
@PizzaloverszАй бұрын
Green tier doesn't do damage on substational
@Zracon2 ай бұрын
Bro tactical with certain auxpecs perks and the underbarrel bolter grenade launcher absolutely shreads targets
@COREcasual2 ай бұрын
You actually get the mastery points on weapons by leveling up the individual versions of the weapon in each section. Because you get 1 mastery point every time you master a weapon version. And you can do that with regular xp or an armory data point
@carlmcbride96062 ай бұрын
I mastered all the multi melta variants and my perk tree isnt done. Are mastery points sharer between ALL weapons or just that weapon?
@skuirrelTV2 ай бұрын
I'm really liking the game so far!
@dillydallyyyy2 ай бұрын
The random minibosses that drop the materials can be found in the lower difficulties not just Substantial and higher. They also are not guaranteed to drop a material, unless my experience was bugged. Just FYI
@MobbBeast2 ай бұрын
That such a dev miss IMO
@blancochilenoАй бұрын
Thank you so much, I was going crazy in the UI lol
@RomzillzzАй бұрын
Super helpful, great video!
@Scheckler272 ай бұрын
Great vid ! I had no idea I could do any of this !
@absolutebaastard27 күн бұрын
I actually like this. Makes you feel worthy when you wield it like, “fuck yeah. I deserve this!” 😂
@G8oo8N82 ай бұрын
Your character looks good. I'm about to start my Vanguard tonight after work. Can't wait.
@JoelKhoo2 ай бұрын
You da man well explained love your channel
@kylemckibben82142 ай бұрын
I've looked online and can't find an answer.. is Armory Data, etc shared amongst the fire team when playing co op?
@djebble12 ай бұрын
Yes
@StayStrapped12 ай бұрын
Thanks for the info, saved me a lot of time
@ninjor98002 ай бұрын
Thanks for the tips. Also random, but we have the same speakers 😸
@loganhuffman6891Ай бұрын
Can you only level up one line of perks in the perk tree?
@SetsunaKai52 ай бұрын
So im struggling to understand this system. So on a new grey weapon it gives me an option of spending a green token to master it, however i can choose not to spend the token and just level it up. What does the token do in this case? So i've leveled a weapon to max grey, i then spend a green token to unlock mastercrafted tier, then i buy one of the variants with requisition points, it then asks me to spend a green token to master it. I have the weapon equipped but im not getting any experience. what gives?
@True_Judah2 ай бұрын
You’re capped off because you need the data cache. Green, then purple, then gold.
@SetsunaKai52 ай бұрын
@@True_Judah It wasn't that but i figured it out. You can skip having to level variants you don't like by spending the token.
@phays102 ай бұрын
Please do a series on where to find the armory stuff.
@DavidLister772 ай бұрын
Is a Carnifex classed as a boss? Because I just had one of those spawn in the middle of an Average difficulty mission.
@TheJakescott15152 ай бұрын
So you HAVE to buy a version of the gun in each tier as your upgrading or does the xp cascade over? In other words could I use just the standard version of the weapon to grind all the way to relic their then just spend the currency on the final version you want?
@phucletran28602 ай бұрын
No, you have to have a version of that tier. What more, if you dont buy, and master those version, you wont have mastery point to improve your weapon.
@echosierra99902 ай бұрын
I still find it weird, that you have to progress to a higher threat level in order to get armory data for the weapon tier you actually need to survive. The other thing I don’t like, is that if you manage to get armory data and end up wiping, you lose it. I know, I know, there are a lot of people who have hours upon hours to play, stating they do ruthless missions with green weapons, but I usually play randoms, not with a group. Makes it A LOT harder when you don’t have a dedicated group to run with.
@Grzegorz-i7gАй бұрын
i passed on my own today operation 3 on ruthless :)
@FedDonovan2 ай бұрын
Can you do some of the operation solo or you're forced to play with teammates?
@1kulik2 ай бұрын
there are bots you play when solo
@chickenandksivideoreviewer97392 ай бұрын
@@1kulikpeople can still join. Private games are coming end of this month
@TsaiRyan-ko5ek2 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for making this video. I can understand it much clear now about the system!
@jerlstromАй бұрын
thanks man the purple data is stupid I knew it was difficulty or mode to get them but since you dont see it when you just hover over i couldnt figure it out really stupid to have to select the difficulty to see it
@CalAndAly2 ай бұрын
Love this vid man!!
@gromkour53412 ай бұрын
Do you need to purchase and level each version per tier to unlock the next tier?
@grossindecencyАй бұрын
Where are you going to upgrade!? Ive been to several videos and nobody has said where to upgrade. The armoury has none of these stat screens when i go to select my weapons.
@the98themperoroftheholybri33Ай бұрын
You have to actually click on the weapon you wish to upgrade
@grossindecencyАй бұрын
@the98themperoroftheholybri33 nope. Turns out it's just not upgradable in campaign. Nobody mentioned this once.
@the98themperoroftheholybri33Ай бұрын
@@grossindecency oh right yeah, you can only apply an armour skin and gun skin, but not upgrade unfortunately, they should add that into the story as it'll make it more replayable, there's no real reason to replay the story mode once you finish it
@grossindecencyАй бұрын
@the98themperoroftheholybri33 that would be cool. Maybe just aesthetics. Otherwise it messes with the campaign difficulty.
@gihadiresnov14682 ай бұрын
Do I need to use the weapons I haven’t leveled fully to get to the next tier. Or is level weapons just for mastery points?
@Edmundostudios2 ай бұрын
If a teammate picks up the data does it give it to you as well?
@Mukuro-Sama2 ай бұрын
If anyone in the team gets the data, everyone gets it, so long as you complete the mission, if you fail it, nobody gets it.
@frank-b61692 ай бұрын
@@Mukuro-Samagood to know man, thanks. God bless
@simplyyunak31892 ай бұрын
And thats the problem: failing a mission does not give the armoury data you found or got from killing the mini boss
@justinwimer707Ай бұрын
I just started playing yesterday.. I’m just playing solo for now and I don’t see any of this. Is this all only within online mode? I haven’t even tried it yet
@tamarentious89452 ай бұрын
A problem i found is that in the perk tree if you divert in purple or relic tier you cant achieve the final tier
@DrewBaye28 күн бұрын
Only 5 minutes for trials? I’ve only done a few of the trials and I must be really bad at this, because I gave up on them out of frustration.
@GentlestMonster9492 ай бұрын
Need to do vids on locations on each map
@billycox56072 ай бұрын
Can you use this stuff in pvp multiplayer or is it just for operations???
@jeromusflechsugus29162 ай бұрын
Question about the Weapon perk tree: Sometimes you have 2x the same perk, then it must get doubled right??? for example I take 2x "10% more damage" then my gun has 20% more damage!!
@Trevgaff2 ай бұрын
Correct
@Randobando12 ай бұрын
After a long grind, I got 2 Purples in 1 substantial match with 1 friend and 1 CPU.
@True_Judah2 ай бұрын
@@Randobando1 bro literally farm inferno on the tyranid detonation mission. It’s so easy even on challenging difficulty
@True_Judah2 ай бұрын
@@Randobando1 if you want I can carry you when I get back home
@angeloclarizio78132 ай бұрын
Does going down take away the armory data?
@swanchamp5136Ай бұрын
Hmm came here to find out how to get the purple mastery points. Find out i have to do substantial to get them. Here's the thing just going to average from minimal, I've gone from taking out some majoris threat with 1 or 2 head shots with a laz rifle to suddenly it's taking 3 shots to stun them, sometimes it's like the game doesn't even register the hits either poured 7 head shots into a Tyranid majoris for it to laugh in my face and cut me down like i had shot candy floss at them
@skoomaguy37482 ай бұрын
I like how there’s a game called space marine out there. No suprises there 😂
@Scoupe4002 ай бұрын
This only affects Operations? Eternal War PvP uses different progression & loadouts???
@drake128Ай бұрын
So ..to get the purple stuff so I have weapons that help I need to finish the harder stuff …to get weapons that help clear it …
@thewispoАй бұрын
i have never seen armoury data in an operation. Never. Is it focused to my player or if someone else sees, has it gone?
@SithHappens9567Ай бұрын
I had no idea I could earn mastery points by unlocking the other weapon stats basically buying them all since I’m lvl 25 on tactical and only bought one each for each weapon I use 😂 I feel so dumb I was like how the hell do I get the relic perks haha
@jeremyordazАй бұрын
I don't have this anymore. Did they do away with the perk system with this update? 9/26/24
@ignition8047Ай бұрын
Anything above threat level minimal is impossible playing solo
@KosmunistАй бұрын
No, no it’s not lol. Lot of us out here soloing these
@Brian-ch6hg2 ай бұрын
Great info, TV!
@the98themperoroftheholybri33Ай бұрын
So how do you get the gold data?
@462883282 ай бұрын
is there a recommended class level to start doing substantial difficulty?
@simplyyunak31892 ай бұрын
Any class with melta rifle
@joqc148623 күн бұрын
Can i gain exp and currency in solo ?
@Grzegorz-i7gАй бұрын
i did 3rd mission solo on 3rd and 4rd hardest and got nothing like this purple or gold???
@Hoppy97452 ай бұрын
At the moment the substantial (hard) difficulty is so hard and also my cosmetics keep disappearing when I re load the name but the credits aren’t! Not sure if anyone else is having this issue on Xbox
@brianbrinegar60862 ай бұрын
Excellent video
@jasonmcclash76142 ай бұрын
Can u use armory data to unlock mastery points?
@Trevgaff2 ай бұрын
Yes
@Burakzlf2 ай бұрын
hi i still don't understand, can u help me ? the perk tree u say need more currency, but can u explain how to get curency for perk how can i ern it, beacuse i have a lot of differn armry ddata but cant upgrade my weapon perk tree and my charater is lvl 25 i still grinding but dınt understand the perk
@simplyyunak31892 ай бұрын
You cant buy all perks from perk tree of the weapon. You have to choose
@simonrodriguez4819Ай бұрын
what about relic points?
@BnsJns17 күн бұрын
Sorry my guy but you didn't explain how to get more mastery points to fully lvl the perk tree for guns
@koidrew2 ай бұрын
Do you get any of this from the campaign?
@decemberferret2 ай бұрын
No, operations only
@koidrew2 ай бұрын
@@decemberferret soo theres kinda no point in completing campaign other then for fun
@decemberferret2 ай бұрын
@@koidrew you can't complete all the operations until you've completed the campaign
@koidrew2 ай бұрын
@@decemberferret you sure? it lets me play them already. but if you dont get any levels or weapons xp from campaign why do it?
@decemberferret2 ай бұрын
@@koidrew it will not let you do the final two operations. And people play the campaign for the story because the operations run concurrently to what's happening in the campaign.
@christopherpalecek2022Ай бұрын
I cant understand if it transfers to pvp seems only esthetics do
@NEKVAHN2 ай бұрын
I WAS STRUGGLING WITH THIS FOR A BIT COMPLETED IT NEVER GOT PURPLE IN THE END
@simplyyunak31892 ай бұрын
You have to kill a mini boss ( carnifex or zoranthrope) or find the floating skull. Just comleting a mission does not give the armoury data. Thats why it is crucial to know the skull spawn locations
@fullsendcirca92552 ай бұрын
I had a hard time with the trials
@bigsam51712 ай бұрын
The progressio system is overcomplicated on this game
@F.O.Ай бұрын
結局どうすればツリーのマスタリーポイントが取得できるのかが分からない動画だった
@RockyDeanda-w6m2 ай бұрын
Dang I can hardly get past average right now😂😂😂😂
@trevorsims56032 ай бұрын
This is a stupid system that gate keeps u if ur not good enough or don’t have friends to help u, this need to be reconfigured
@KosmunistАй бұрын
No… no it doesn’t. Not everything should be given to you.
@Josco83Ай бұрын
It sure does gatekeep you if you’re not good enough…and that’s your motivation to get better.
@Jak3thusn4keАй бұрын
I agree. This is a game. It’s meant for fun and fun means smashing bugs with hammer for dopamine points. You don’t have to be the best you can be like it’s fucking Dragon Ball lmao.
@myapocalypse420Ай бұрын
No this guy is right it is a horrible system it needs reworking.
@pascalsimioli677728 күн бұрын
You can easily clear ruthless with bots, or get carried by randos online. Just try for once in your lifetime.
@khiraas56562 ай бұрын
What a stupid way yo stifle progression, in wwz all you needed is xp
@georgejennings87432 ай бұрын
The difficulty in this game is insane. I’ve literally wasted 3 hours failing to complete substantial difficulty missions but failing and never getting a bloody point. I can’t get any better without better weapons. Fuck this, I don’t know why they made it this bad in an otherwise perfect game.
@Wade-q4fАй бұрын
If you get a good team it's not so start with bulwark to make things easy
@georgejennings8743Ай бұрын
@@Wade-q4f the entire levelling up system shouldn’t be based around organised team composition when most people play with randoms
@Dynasty18182 ай бұрын
Weapon perks and the points system makes NO SENSE as there are more perk choices than there are weapon variants. Take the bolt pistol - there's officially 8 variants to unlock and use and master, so 8 mastery points to use on perks. 8. But you can unlock 10+ perks based on the lines. So you can't take them all, as you ONLY HAVE ENOUGH POINTS to make it down ONE of the lines, so even with the joined lines you can't pick every perk you want. What a stupid system!
@Grzegorz-i7gАй бұрын
you didn't explain good either you don't get purple or gold after passing jist mission if you don't find them while you play you get 0 purple or gold
@sawysauce1256Ай бұрын
How does games works shop make it so fucking complicated to upgrade weapons in all there games?
@dfralli19802 ай бұрын
And how do you unlock the trials?
@michaelmontalvo74412 ай бұрын
you don’t unlock them, they’re just there when you go into operations mode and go to the armory to check out the character you have chosen
@dfralli19802 ай бұрын
@michaelmontalvo7441 yesterday I definitely couldn't get it to work. Today I did yet still can't play with any1even friends on campaign or pve. But can get pvp matches now and then. That shot grinds my gears. And I'm on a ps5 only game that has gave me problems like this but it is day 2
@michaelmontalvo74412 ай бұрын
@@dfralli1980 yea the devs are aware of this issues people are having, it’s still early access, things will get ironed out
@BighandsdownАй бұрын
I think you are all a little confused here…Read More
@Tylerzee002 ай бұрын
If anyone can help me on pc I would greatly appreciate it just got this game and it sucks just can’t progress
@Jay-jz5uyАй бұрын
Anny luck progressing
@The-Spanish-Inquisition490Ай бұрын
I laughed so hard when he said trails are easy. Their stupid hard for all the classes baring Bulwalk and Heavy. Seriously i gave up on snipers cloaking it's so shitily designed and completly RNG, watch a guide and they all dovit with literally no spare time its all bang on the 60 sevond mark and these are the players who make the game look like ut was designed for children... edit: i laughed even hard when he said, "assualts are really good." assualts are th worst for PVE, their great in PVP because melee bypasses armour in pvp. In PvE they have no defence and rely on jet pack peferct dodge (jet pack has a stupid long cooldown compared to the campaign version)
@girth38502 ай бұрын
I did trials and didn’t get any fucking points. What the fuck
@InsomniacOwlxc2 ай бұрын
Yo it’s probably a bug it’ll show up later or the devs are aware of the issue and you’ll get your credits my guy
@severex98512 ай бұрын
Fun? This game is a job.. 😅
@lopez55paul2 ай бұрын
😂
@cloudylemonyt35182 ай бұрын
Bruh im trying to survive average how am i gonna get substantial with randoms 🤣🤣
@Wade-q4fАй бұрын
It's not that bad 4 games 3win 1loss it's tough😂
@Sportek24Ай бұрын
funny the game doesnt show u how to get to that menu lol ether this video lol
@Cameo96_2 ай бұрын
I dont see nun of this that your talkin bout. Im on console and in the amour hall and theres no trial. Do I have to finish the story or something?? They need to update this badly..
@Wade-q4fАй бұрын
I'm on console it's there for me your game bugged
@Jay-jz5uyАй бұрын
U in operation when looking
@thewispoАй бұрын
It doesnt show much does it? the overall UI design is diabolical. Worst ive seen in years. Atrocious mess.
@alexshpak1497Ай бұрын
This is the dumbest progression system ever, im absolutely uninstalling the game until they put more ways to progress, the last thing a want to do is explore the same linear map over and over again absolutely fuck that, this game tuened out to be the biggest disappointment of the year 0/10
@beyondxhorizon49922 ай бұрын
Videogame hack. You can play the game for yourself and figure it out and have fun doing it!
@TrueVanguard2 ай бұрын
life hack, let ppl play their video games the way they want instead of telling them how they should. it's wasted energy. video games aren't that deep brother, if someone wants to look up some tips to save themselves some time then that's their choice. it's their time and their money, i don't recommend being bothered enough to care what they do with it.
@jmo71852 ай бұрын
Show us on the doll where the bad utuber touched you , it will feel better. I promise
@InsomniacOwlxc2 ай бұрын
@@TrueVanguardamen brother
@Cohen.Motion2 ай бұрын
1st
@LordOneeeCeoLoАй бұрын
Ruthless isn’t even hard . I wish there was something harder fr. Can’t wait for the new update for the new operation missions and weapons
@KingManga36029 күн бұрын
Update
@BloodlustParadox2 ай бұрын
How do yoy even get purples
@Wade-q4fАй бұрын
Suffering😅
@BloodlustParadoxАй бұрын
@@Wade-q4f was still nooby back then but not I have like 30 purples and now working on relic points, currently have 8