How To Use A Sublimation Tumbler Heat Press - UPDATE!

[@deejayzdesignz]

I just got my press for tumblers and i followed the steps you mentioned. WOW!! flawless instructions. The tumblers I did came out perfect. Thank you Sir.

[@industrialfringe953]

That’s fantastic! I’m so glad! Thanks for watching!

[@timothygarrity5181]

That's awesome 👌 my wife just ordered a 8 in 1 setup and she's very excited about the new possibilities to come. And seeing how you did that fishing one has me thinking new hunting water bottles 😆 and range gear

[@industrialfringe953]

NOW you’re talkin’!

[@mayawar]

Muchas Gracias!! Thank you so much! I just press my first tumbler today, and even that I couldn't follow the instructions exactly, you gave me the guide to do a very good tumbler, only a couple of booboos, but very happy with the result.

[@industrialfringe953]

That’s fantastic! Thanks for watching!

[@KeeaGeorge]

Thank you so much for your guidance the taping and the time and temperature was correct and worked amazingly on my tumblers again thank you

[@industrialfringe953]

That’s fantastic! I’m so glad it helped! Thanks for watching!

[@TYJ419]

Yes that does look great! So, happy that you found your sweet spot. Tracey

[@industrialfringe953]

Thank you!

[@teresarene1]

Wow thank you so much ! I’m new to sublimation with a mug press from HPN and just couldn’t get my times & temp. Right to get a good result ! So again a big thank you for a great video ❤

[@industrialfringe953]

Thank you! And thanks for watching!

[@LadyP1225]

Whew... They all came out nice. Gonna try that method. I have the same press with that attachment. I ran into pressure problems😒 Gonna retry and pray for success! Thanks for this amazing video👋🏼💖

[@industrialfringe953]

I love it now, but it took a while to get there! I was using too much pressure at first. If it helps (and if all Signature Mug presses are the same), I have a gap of 1-1/4” between the front of the bar that holds the back screws and the back of the tumbler bar that’s closest to that screw bar. I hope that makes sense! And thanks so much!

[@LadyP1225]

@@industrialfringe953 I'll definitely will try that too... Thanks again! Blessed1🙏🏽✌🏽

[@meghanobrien8035]

Thank you so much for your videos! You have a lifelong subscriber over here!

[@industrialfringe953]

Thanks so much, Meghan! New video (Design a Tumbler in Photoshop Elements, Part 3) comes out tomorrow!

[@mz_gsxr305]

I’m going to try this out! I’m having problems with the too not getting the ink to good. Thank you!

[@industrialfringe953]

If you’re having issues with the top (or bottom), take a look at how I wrap in this video. (It’s slightly different from this video, but works wonders!) kzbin.info/www/bejne/nKHLkH6arLKofdU Thanks for watching!

[@solisgzz8]

What printer do you have for your sublimation??

[@industrialfringe953]

I use an older converted Epson Workforce 7710. When it eventually stops, I’ll get an Epson F170 (or 570 if I can afford it!). Thanks for watching!

[@MrEdsster]

Thanks for the video. Enjoyed it very much. I'm going to have to try your method as the mugs in doing on my hpn press is taking 530 seconds at 400 degrees. Light pressure or heavy pressure doesn't make a difference. Maybe crummy mugs. I'll buy some cricut mugs and see if it makes a difference. Since i give these away its all a learning experience. I just would like them to be nice thanks again

[@industrialfringe953]

Thanks for watching! Definitely try the time/temp I used, and check out my “How To Tape For Perfect Seams” video. When I open my press, the resistance is only slightly more than opening a refrigerator.

[@amberlessen2273]

THANK YOU for this! I pressed my very first tumblers today and besides a few tiny boo-boos they look beautiful!

[@industrialfringe953]

YAY! You’re very welcome! And thanks for watching!

[@daniellem7583]

Thank you. It’s such trial and error.

[@gloriacastillo7188]

Thank you so much for this tutorial, colors are so much vibrant, but I am still having the issue of my sublimation paper burning into my tumbler. Any recommendations?

[@industrialfringe953]

Hey, Gloria! It could be a couple of things. If you’re using a press, make sure you have light pressure. And if it’s burning into the tumbler, you probably have too much time and/or temp. Thanks for watching!

[@Starrchez]

Thank you! I followed your instructions exactly and it came out perfect!

[@industrialfringe953]

FANTASTIC! I’m so glad to hear! And thanks for watching!

[@ayala11557]

Hi there! Quick question on pressure. I see you have a fairly large gap. When tumbler in the press, and pressure engaged, can the tumbler easily move?

[@industrialfringe953]

Hey! I use light pressure. That is, it’s very easy to close, but the tumbler is snug enough that it can’t be moved around. And most tumbler presses have somewhat similar gaps, but I rotate 4 times to help alleviate the gap issue. Thanks for watching!

[@jujupuffs]

Great video! I followed your instructions to a tee, but I had the same issues I’ve been having - the paper sticks to the tumbler, and once I get the paper removed, there are white speckled areas all over. I wash with dawn dish soap and the white comes off (revealing color underneath), but the color of the tumbler is very inconsistent, being brighter in some spots and discolored in others. Have you ever dealt with an issue similar to this? Thank you for your time!!

[@industrialfringe953]

Hey, Julie! If you have the time, join our Facebook group, as it will be easier to converse and troubleshoot the problem. (If you do, don’t forget to answer the questions!) That said, my first questions would be, what press, paper, ink, and pressure are you using, and where did you get your tumblers. Also, have you had good results before, or has this been happening since you started? Thanks for watching!

[@tomiseevans3586]

Love your video. Do you recommend using butcher paper on your tumblers when pressing?

[@industrialfringe953]

Great question! I actually touched on this in one of the videos. If asked, I recommend people use blowout paper in their press, but I don’t! The safety cautionary answer is to use it. That said, when I first got my press, I was so excited to use it, I forgot to add blowout paper! About 15 tumblers in, I realized, but nothing had happened, so I just kept going forward with no blowout! Thanks for watching!

[@Rhdefense]

Those are AMAZING! I bought a Goodcrafter press. I have not been able to get it to work. (I've only tried coffee mugs. It has ruined them all.) The problem is I'm using a black background. It's coming out a mottled streaked brown color. (Some people think it still looks okay. BUT, it's not what I was going for.) Have you tried any coffee mugs? Especially with black? If so, what settings did you use, and how did the blacks turn out?

[@industrialfringe953]

Blacks can be tricky on hard substrates. If it’s coming out brown, it’s probably getting too much time and/or too high a temperature. Check out my video on subbing mugs in the press. kzbin.info/www/bejne/enypk4eBg5x3qMU Hopefully that will help. Thanks for watching!

[@rickhorowitz9312]

@@industrialfringe953 thanks! So far, my problem has been temporarily "solved" by getting a Cricut press for my mugs. Tumblers seem to be coming out okay on the Goodcrafter. I'm wondering if I'm using too much pressure on the mugs when I used the Goodcrafter. But, as the Cricut is doing things so well, I'm probably going to wait until I'm more experienced to figure that out. Definitely enjoying your videos!

[@burbrujita159]

Hello, for the black one, did you use the same temp and rotation? I'm having problems with the full black one :(

[@industrialfringe953]

Yes, I use the same time and temp for all colors when subbing regular tumblers. Blacks are trickier, because they need a mor exact (perfect) time and temp, whereas other colors are more lenient. Thanks for watching!

[@roxhansen]

awesome videos!!! What tape do you use?? mine feels like its thicker in caliber ...

[@industrialfringe953]

Thanks so much! I use (and swear by) this tape. I use this 13mm and the 20mm tape and have used it exclusively for over a year. I won’t use any other! O and it doesn’t leave marks if applied directly to the substrate surface. amzn.to/3eh4LBU Thanks for watching!

[@magrietahartung7674]

hi thank you for the awesome video's. i was wondering the 365 degrees is it Celsius or Ferrante

[@industrialfringe953]

Hi, Magrieta, my apologies for not clarifying. I’m using Fahrenheit. Thanks so much for watching!

[@kimleblanc3711]

I really appreciate your videos. A big thank you

[@industrialfringe953]

Thanks so much! And thanks for watching!

[@shamal718]

How did you get your white tape so wait on the total black Tumbler

[@industrialfringe953]

Hey, Sharon! I used a white tumbler and sublimated the black, so the white was just the tumbler where I didn’t print black. Thanks for watching!

[@jbrondos]

How can I tell (using a tumbler press) if I'm using too much pressure or too high heat? I'm getting inconsistent results with part of the sublimated tumbler feeling rough and faint print and other parts looking shiny, bright, and perfect. Currently using 350-degrees for 110 seconds on white skinny tumblers.

[@industrialfringe953]

Hey! So, if you’re asking if you’re using too much pressure, you probably are! I use very light pressure, just enough to clamp the tumbler into the press and not have it move around. I’m not sure how much you rotate your tumbler when you press it, but I found that 4 turns (50 seconds, 50 seconds, 25 seconds, 25 seconds) at 365 degrees gives consistent pressing. Thanks for watching!

[@lisap9948]

Can you please tell me what size your paper is cut to? Also your time and temperatures? Love your video.

[@industrialfringe953]

Hey, Lisa! My time and temp are mentioned at the 5 minute 10 second mark in the video. (365 for 50 seconds, rotate 180 degrees, 50 seconds, rotate 90 degrees, 25 seconds, rotate 180 degrees, 25 final seconds. I think I was doing the final 2 presses at 20 seconds in this video. Either is fine.) My image size is 9-1/4” by just shy of 8-1/8”, but tumbler sizes do very just a little, so you always want to double-check! Thanks for watching!

[@juanitabarreto6040]

Hi. I was wondering if you can assist with print smudging. It seems like I only get the smudges with black ink. I’ve tried everything and can’t figure it out. Hope to get some feedback.

[@industrialfringe953]

Juanita, is the smudging happening to the sub paper, or on the actual tumbler? If it’s the paper, you may not be letting it dry and/or your printer may be laying down too much ink. If it’s on the tumbler and it’s ghosting, you’ll want to wait a minute or two before removing the paper. If it’s the actual tumbler after you’ve removed the paper, you may not be using a sub tumbler, or got a bad batch. Feel free to come join the Facebook group, and I’m sure someone will be able to help! (Link in the description.) Thanks for watching!

[@christinemele4908]

Thanks for the video. What size to do make your design?

[@industrialfringe953]

Christine, thanks for watching! The tumblers I currently use need a design measuring 8-1/8” by 9-1/4”. That’s slightly different from the two other locations I’ve purchased tumblers before. (And both of those measurements were different as well!) You aren’t the first to ask about design sizes, so down the road I may just put together a video in how to measure for the perfect size.

[@mongousa67]

on that heat press how do you know where medium presser is

[@industrialfringe953]

Great question! I couldn’t figure that out when I first started. Then I couldn’t figure out how to explain light pressure until recently. I put a tumbler in the cold press and loosen it up. Then I start pushing it. I tighten just a little, then slide it inside the press more. Then tighten it more. I continue until the press won’t move anymore. Once that happens, I’m set on my pressure! Thanks for watching!

[@barbara34810]

Graet Video!!! New Sub… Thank you. For the seam Run your finger nail down both seams- inner seam too, of the tumbler after you tape it removes the air you will see a difference. I seen it on another video, It has help me so much with seam..

[@industrialfringe953]

Barbara, thank you for watching! Yes, I have found that to work. I used to only push down one seam, but quickly realized that second “hidden” seam is probably more important! I will admit, I don’t always do that, when using the press. It was of utmost importance when I used the oven. Thanks again for watching!

[@phototec]

I followed your revised instructions and my tumbler came out a little faded and the black look weak. Based on your experience, in general, what causes the image to look faded and weak (liter) looking blacks, more or less time or heat? Thanks for any help and for all your videos.

[@industrialfringe953]

Jon, when I was using the convection oven, my blacks were not completely black until I reduced the time. If you’re following my time and temp, my first questions would be, do you have pressure on the tumbler (not a lot, just a little), are you having challenges with other colors, and what press are you using. If you’d like to brainstorm more and you have a Facebook account, jump over to my Facebook group and join. It’ll be easier to text back and forth, and there could be other folks that could weigh in.

[@thesaltedseahorse464]

I use your tape method for my tumblers and I love it . I still have some issues with seams but it is getting better and I thank you for that! , I did a cup and it came out perfect but when I attempted to do a second and third it comes out dull. So my question is do light colors like Gold need to be pressed in a shorter time? I follow your temp and time and turns and I have even changed my paper and can't get the gold to pop like it did in the first one I made. Any suggestions?

[@industrialfringe953]

Debbie, thanks for watching! You know, I’m not sure what could be causing it, especially if the colors came out right on the first one. While I’ve heard of people adjusting time or temp for different colors, I don’t. I’ve found that, at least for me, my time and temp hits all colors pretty well. The first things I would look for is what could have been different on subsequent presses. Was the pressure the same? Was the temp the same? Were the print settings the same? Did it take longer for the press to come to temp due to it being colder in the room (causing the cups to start at a lower temp)? Sometimes I’ll up the saturation a bit on pale colors, but I’m at a loss if your first one came out okay and the next ones didn’t. I’ll ask around, and if I come up with any suggestions, I’ll let you know.

[@industrialfringe953]

Debbie, I was wrapping a few tumblers and got to thinking, we]as the sub paper tight around the tumbler? Loose paper may cause a more dull result. Just a thought!

[@thesaltedseahorse464]

@@industrialfringe953 All wrapped the same and tight did one tonight it was perfect. Thank you for your help!!!

[@tracylitsinger]

do you prefer the press or the oven?

[@industrialfringe953]

I’ll use either, but I prefer the press! Thanks for watching!

[@tracylitsinger]

@@industrialfringe953 thank you so much.. I LOVE your videos.. I just got all my stuff set up and made a few, but I have an oven.. just debating on getting a tumbler press,

[@alane5611]

I am having issues with my paper sticking to the tumbler after I press. Thoughts on this? :)

[@industrialfringe953]

Hey, Alexandria! It could be a couple of things. You should have light pressure. If your pressure is too heavy, that could be an issue. Also, I peel my tumblers hot, a couple minutes after they’ve come out of the press. I’ve heard leaving the paper on could cause issues. (And NEVER dip them in water!) Lastly, your tumbler may not be completely baked, i.e., the coating may not have been completely cured at the factory). If you put it in the press for 15 - 30 seconds then let it cool before pressing, that may fix the issue. Good luck! And thanks for watching!

[@alane5611]

@@industrialfringe953 thank you so much for your tips!!

[@shamal718]

Sorry… how did the white type turn out so white on top of the black background on the tumbler

[@industrialfringe953]

The design is black with white (transparency) where the white is! The only challenging thing with this is that it can be difficult to get large patches of blacks to sub well, and getting the seam perfect.

[@joycepeoplessmith354]

Help, I must be doing something wrong because when I take the paper off the tumbler it's white. I follow your temperature and i got the Epson's printer, but it's not working. I got the right ink paper. So I don't know!!!!

[@industrialfringe953]

Joyce, join our Facebook group and I’m sure we can talk you through everything! Just make sure to answer the questions! Hope to see you there!

[@18primo]

When I do 365° for 50 sec and is the too tight but I get tape marks, do you think I should loose more pressure? Or something else?

[@industrialfringe953]

If you’re getting tape marks, yes, try using less pressure. I use very little pressure. As a matter of fact, I may do a video comparing press pressures! (Thanks for the idea!)

[@18primo]

@@industrialfringe953 thank you I appreciate your tip. Mine is light I will go more light and try again, thank you

[@abernal687]

@@industrialfringe953 that would be great! Bc I loosened my pressure several times and still getting tape marks. My seams and edges are beautiful but in certain angles I can see the tape marks.

[@ftcthomas7849]

Had this issue and changed my tape brand. I use the yellowish brown tape vs the green and no more tape marks. I also try not to use tape on the main printed image.

[@winnieapoo]

Great video! Thanks! I might actually finally hook mine up and give it a go! 😁

[@industrialfringe953]

Thanks! And yes, hook that thing up!

[@ce4me810]

I would love to purchase that fishing graphic. Is it one of your originals? I just make items for myself and gifts. New subscriber, love your video style!

[@industrialfringe953]

Thanks so much! I’ll update and publish the digital design page soon and announce it on the Facebook group. Thanks again!

[@SYKOK1LLER]

Been getting some ghosting along the seam at the top and bottom that looks like a thin line. I guess I need to really press down the edges so it doesn't create a tunnel.

[@industrialfringe953]

For me, the first strip of tape puts the paper against the tumbler and keeps from creating air inside. The second piece flattens the paper against the top. If you haven’t, watch my video on creating the perfect edges. It will help! And thanks for watching!

[@SYKOK1LLER]

@@industrialfringe953 This method seems to be working for me but I leave a bit of extra wrap on one side maybe 1/8" to avoid a white line. Then I squeegee down the seam and so far they're looking good. But my black has not come out anywhere as black as yours. Mine looked faded and I'm at same temp and time. Do you use some color setting that is better for blacks? I've used Black point compensation but not seeing good color. I guess I need to do a test piece with multiple settings at same everything else.

[@industrialfringe953]

If you make coffee mugs, the perfect use for the occasional p]broken one is to test, using multiple strips with corresponding color names. I don’t use a special setting. Presses can differ in temp from one to another, so there’s a chance you’re not pressing hot enough. Or too hot, but my guess is not hot enough. It may be worth your while to sacrifice one tumbler and use multiple strips. And leave yourself room to repress. The earlier strips will be lighter because of the additional time in the press, but you will have already figured out they didn’t work! Thanks for watching!

[@ParanormalResponse]

Great video!

[@industrialfringe953]

Thanks so much!

[@BlackSwampGraphics]

Great update!! Thanks!

[@industrialfringe953]

Thank you! And thanks for watching!

[@GraphicGin111]

Can you do a video on how to press a 30 oz tumbler without getting the line from the press gap? Please! I've waisted 100 dollars worth of 30 oz tumblers because my press is suppose to be able to do 30 oz but the gap you have to rotate. No matter what I do I still have a line where the gap was when I clamped down the first rotation 😢

[@industrialfringe953]

I could probably make one! But do you rotate your tumbler during the press? I’ve found that multiple rotations are key. I do four rotations. If I were having problems, I’d probably reduce the amount of time per rotation and add more rotations.ons so all of the tumbler gets equal heat. Make sense? Thanks for watching!

[@GraphicGin111]

@INDUSTRIAL fringe yes I do 385 for 60 seconds, rotate 180 degrees, and do 45 seconds then do my ends. I'll try lesser time more turns. I think the fact I can't get the pressure knobs down like whats to much and not enough with the 30 oz with the gap. It's a process that's for sure. But your videos help tremendously!!

[@vikki92411]

Nice 😊

[@industrialfringe953]

Thank you!

[@marilynrivera2981]

/amazing Teacher smooth Thank You

[@industrialfringe953]

Thank you so much, Marilyn! And thanks for watching!