How To Use Effects Pedals as Outboard Gear | Recording Tricks

[@TheMyndsurfer]

Right. As clear as mud.

[@Hubson555]

omg, that "mosquito" in right stereo channel, i quess it just was an oversight?

[@jonb4145]

ME TOO. I've been sitting here for ten minutes totally upset that my monitors were fucked. Then I tried in my headphones and it was still there. *Phew*

[@4hzproducciones95]

I WAS NEARLY CRYING FOR MY $1,400 MONITORS.... REALLY... I WAS ABOUT TO CRY

[@Legendsumming]

Wow that sound was really messy after the pedal work . Pedals are great ,but I notice through this video that they have a very different character into a pre amp than into a direct sampled recording .

[@wpdoyle]

There are WAAAYYYY too many tutorials like this one in which the content provider assumes the viewer knows 99% more than what they do. People wouldn't be looking up "how-tos" on KZbin if they understood stuff already! You could just read up on it in a fraction of the time! How about this: Don't assume people know anything. Take them step-by-step, explaining along the way. Then you'd have people who really understand things. Doing it like this, you get an annoyingly piecemeal sense of how everything works together. And you have to watch 30 videos, assemble the content in your head, and only then MAYBE understand the topic.Videos like this really waste people's time.

[@jopa3705]

Agree!

[@allinthemind2006]

this is pretty basic stuff

[@user-yf2lk5gi7q]

He's not here to teach you all of the terminology. He's here to show you exactly what the title describes. If you don't know what sends, returns, and buses are, you need to go look up videos on what those are first.

[@danielmendez3098]

lil bitch

[@ramblr78]

So true

[@gizmoriderfulye8007]

Well, Im sure many of us would of been interested in actual hardware connections, when searching youtube

[@keiran110]

Use an i/o plugin on the track in your DAW or adjust the output on the track if you can. Set the output to output 1 on your interface, for example. Go from output 1 on your interface with a 1/4 inch jack in to your pedal. Go out of the pedal with a 1/4 inch jack and back in to input1 on your interface. Make a new track to record on. Set the input to "input1", hit record, and you're done.

[@tomvice]

Interface out > reamp box > guitar pedal > DI box > preamp

[@blkgostnone4092]

@@tomvicenot applicable to this video

[@marsellradja1324]

this guy seems genuine he might not be the best at explaining he seems to be coming from a engineer perspective not so much an artist perspective ,but id loved to have him in the studio when making record his true self is engineer mind not guitar player singer and songwriter creative mind that's what's sick about working in the studio my experience is that's where bands find their sound and again my experience but reach that level of its official .you can play live forever and never reach the sonic power and true to what you want to sound like live gigs only with some demo self releases bad sounding releases on social media or Spotify,itunes,etc..just won't cut it I encourage all musicians to get into recording first get the sound you want mix it get it mastered proper for analog platform 2inch tape or 1/2 inch and for streaming sites iTunes ,Spotify, etc as well cause that well be your main way of releasing records but nothing beats tape.its what digital did and does simulates all that awesome tape , rack unit gear ,mjxng consoles , micing and preamps tube. digital has never been its own thing its just copied sound and the new better higher end daws coming out every year are just better sounding simulations . I use both digital and tape .track drums on tape even a 4 track portages studio that uses cassette tape gives saturation no digital can it'll just sound closer to tape saturation .thanks for the tutorial reverb I love your gear and instrument buying site choice ear keep it up !!!

[@eyesofobsidian]

Interesting perspective!

[@espacoipiranga]

Example 1: Output of audio card (line level) > reamp box (line level to amp level) > pedal effect > instrument input of audio card Example 2: Output of audio card (line level) > reamp box (line level to amp level) > pedal effect > reamp box (amp level to line level) > line input of audio card Example 3: Output of audio card (line level) > reamp box (line level to amp level) > any pedal > amplifier input > record (microfone on amp cabinet into preamp. Example 4: Output of audio card (line level) > reamp box (line level to amp level) > any pedal > amp input > amp line out into audio card line in.

[@johnsmith883]

Espaço Ipiranga for example 2 would I be able to use my JDI or My J48 as the second reamp box? Im thinking if the pedals are active then a passive right?

[@sharonlee4773]

Thank you for this my friend!-this is what what SHOULD have been stated by the bloke in the video!

[@lw3150]

Can you do this live as well? That way you can get the feel of the effects, but record it DI so you can tweak to perfection?

[@Andrew_H._Smith]

The best video on KZbin covering this topic. The hosts of other music production education channels love hearing the sound of their own voices, and never get to the point until like 20 minutes into the vid. This is sweet and to the point. bravo

[@kwameappiah-kubi1128]

stop touching the screen!!!!

[@ct6mblack]

Omg, seriously! Drove me nuts...

[@daleweber2579]

I know right, he could've explained what type cables to use. But, I heard from pedalboards of doom that a usb to 1/4 jack used for rock band could work. Go out from pedal to usb on laptop etc.

[@EricJamesVideo]

@@ct6mblack Same. Why would one need to put their greezy fingers on the screen! HHAHAH!

[@AndyB1286]

Yep. His touching the screen was clearly the reason he made this video.

[@TheMetaldudeX]

I was just going to type this. Glad This has been here for 2 years.

[@lopessfilter]

I usually send signal to my pedals through an output of my interface at -10dBv and return the same way on an input. Do I really need a reamp box? You think this will damage my pedals if I don't get one? Thank you!

[@bernieorbust6104]

Arturo Lopez Did you find an answer to this?

[@Leo_Berger]

Excatly. No need for an reamp pedal if your not going in to an amp

[@matthewjames596]

You don't "need" a reamp box but a reamp will likely match impedance more closely to what the amp and pedal operate at input.

[@Deeplycloseted435]

It does make a difference. Turning the gain down doesn’t mean there still isn’t an impedance mismatch. If you want to get all you can out of the pedals, and best quality sound, then reamp. ESPECIALLY gain dependent pedals like overdrive or distortion....big difference. Even reverbs and delays, even on pedals that are “allegedly” line level, like Eventide H9, its an improvement in sound quality.

[@mod3l]

Essentially, for me the biggest difference is that sometimes when you're not using the reamp box you can loose some low end. That's not always present but different pedals expect different signals so expect mixed results. Sometimes there is no difference or is barely audible but in reality you'll never know untill you try out both methods yourself. Note that there can be many different factors (impedance, voltage, db) so the best option would be just to play around, but keep in mind, that using a reamp box is the fastest, easiest and safest solution.

[@keith.loves.lasagna]

Is it possible to have these pedals run in a chain within the DAW? As in, after the dry sound or behind VSTs/plugins?

[@mateuszmusia633]

Yes, you can put vst plugins in return chain

[@TylerRay777]

Dudes!!! That is so extremely convenient. I just learned about reamping from this. The smartest thing I've ever seen. Such a studio time and money saver for sure. This layman thanks thee.

[@Reverb]

Happy to help!

[@DanBarracuda]

Dude right. my mind is blown

[@DanBarracuda]

So you can just record all your guitar tracks at home via DI, and then print it all out when you get to the studio?

[@MrDEFORCER]

I want an analog Limiter, but could not afford it by this time, how will you approach mastering with guitar pedals

[@TheHostman24]

do i need a reamp box if i have an interface?

[@Yawsounds]

Yes

[@louderthangod]

I'm knew to this insert world (and I watched the reamp video) but are you running out of your interface (line level) --> reamp box (back to instrument level) --> into the pedals and then --> into the hi-z input since you're still in instrument level? I have an Apollo Twin like you did in the other video so with this I couldn't do stereo since the hi-z is mono unless I had a pedal that could convert it to line level (like an Eventide Space) which could also give me stereo into the combi jacks...is that right?

[@budandbean1]

Hey Sean, thank you so much for this video, I still don't quite understand but I'm going to review this and the last video a bunch of times and I know I'll figure it out. I've been playing for years as a solo act. I was given something called an "Aphex 104 Aural Exciter Type C2 with Big Bottom" years ago and shown how to hook it up with my PA. It sounded amazing and I still use it. I just got into recording and have been using Studio One 3 Pro and can't figure out how to get it to work with my DAW. It has to be something like this and I'm pretty sure this will help, I just need to completely understand it. They do make a Plug-In but it's pretty expensive. I just hate to put out more cash when this works just fine. I don't know exactly what it does but it sure makes what comes out of the speakers, well, just wonderful... Thanks for your time Sean!

[@Reverb]

Hi Buddy, what interface are you using?

[@budandbean1]

Thanks so much for responding, The interface I'm using is a Presonus Audiobox USB.

[@gloriayang1883]

do you need guitar effect pedal?

[@djflx3313]

Thanks for the video!. I am going to buy some pedals in the near future and this was exactly what I was looking for :D // FLX

[@MiloshMitrovic]

Really useful advise, but be careful with it. Guitar pedals are mostly mono... Reverb and delay are in most cases used as stereo effects and if you are doing mastering, bus processing or working with any stereo track you need stereo effects. Also, your interface conversion between analog and digital might not be as great as you think. Having something in analog is great, but it doesn't mean that it's necessarily better. You might get better results from plugins in the end.

[@Dustiliciousz]

I'm new to this and am wondering, isn't there a stereo reamp box in the market?

[@MiloshMitrovic]

There is a stereo reamp box, but many reverb and delay pedals are mono, so it doesn't matter if you split it after the effect to stereo, you will only get double mono recording. And most of the comp/eq/distortion pedals are mono also. So it can be used for limited number of situations and it complicates your workflow.

[@Dustiliciousz]

Milosh Mitrovic Thank you for taking your time! I'm thinking of buying the Strymon Timeline, and already have the Bigsky. These are stereo, so technically with the addition of a stereo reamp box, stereo mixig would be possible right?

[@MiloshMitrovic]

Yes, that would work, you would need something like ART dualrdb or some other stereo to stereo reamp box.

[@kris_gorski]

Using a mono DLY or RVB is often beneficial as it adds a sense of space without cluttering the over picture too much.

[@keith.loves.lasagna]

Awesome video, thanks! Just curious, do I need a reamp box? I may be acquiring a new ASIO so what if it has Line Out?

[@primprimble2925]

What if I am working on the hardware side with a mixer? How do I connect a 1/4 aux send to an xlr input on the reamp device? Or can I patch the aux directly through a pedal chain back through the aux return?

[@aviozstudio4903]

Can i use reverb pedal through line splitter then to my preamp inside mixer instead ?

[@ItaiIfrach]

If u reamp without DI box the audio that u recorded with amp and mic to the effects with pl and then back to the interface with pl - no amp involved - should u use DI box ?

[@MrJuGou]

Hello. I tried to do what was demostrated in the video, but when I engage the pedals I have a lot of noise. The noise is there even when tha pedal is not engaged. Do you know that is happening and how I may fix it? Thank you very much

[@klausrudiger306]

Hi, thanks for the video. What about audio quality loss though with the additional D/A and A/D conversion? Worth considering or neglectable?

[@jdl2180]

I only want to convert to digital once. I guess it just depends on how good of recording you want to have.

[@tsarbamba642]

i'd say negligible.

[@Tokyo_Demon_Police]

Should I use Speaker Cables or Instrument Cables?

[@Vnc3nt]

Connectingf what?

[@Iansdaboss]

Balanced (TRS or XLR, whatever your interface outputs) from interface to reamp box (You can use a TRS to XLR adapter if needed at this stage). Standard instrument cable to get from reamp box to pedals and from pedals back into your interface (assuming it has a hi-z input otherwise you will need a di as well).

[@arthurazoubel5344]

So, if I don't have an hi-z input in my interface, I will need two DIs? I'm just a little confused because I'm actually a drummer, I don't understand shit about guitars stuff, sorry

[@turtlewithanegg1561]

would it work if I just use my scarlett focusrite audio interface?

[@yungsavagesleeper3198]

so, if I have pedals, do I plug my guitar straight into my Audio interface and then use a Reamp box to add the effects after? or can i use a DI box? was the initial signal recorded with an amp or directly into an audio interface?

[@yesitsvish]

you can stomp boxes in to Di but you need a ReAmp to effect a pre-recorded track with your stomps, etc.

[@MrBoneman]

So, you need a reamp box to go to the pedals, but you don't need a DI box to go back to the interface?

[@aLoudSi1ence]

As new to outboard, I didn't get anything even watched the other tutorial as well :(

[@kashmiridanish]

same lol, wahttaguy, didnt even explain the damn setup properly

[@keiran110]

What do you want to know?

[@savanaviolenta]

Same here. Came to this video for the 5th time and learnt nothing. Lots of small details missing. I have many questions about reamping, he didn't answered none of them. Will look somewhere else for more professional explanation. Google...

[@quellochebussa5084]

If I wanted to use a plug-in amp and my pedals, could I just use the signal going from my guitar to the pedals and send it to the interface?

[@f67739]

yes

[@godzilla964]

Im just wondering if it's a good idea to plug a bass guitar into a noise gate and compressor pedal before it goes into the interface.

[@ytscksdabig1]

Why wouldn't you just use a noise gate and compressor in Pro Tools or your DAW?

[@DeclanTheCrow]

soooo is the reason i'm getting this dreadful feeback because of me not using a reamp box or is that something else?

[@f67739]

just came here from trying to use the line out on my interface into my pedal, and then from the pedal to my interface input with high impedance turned on... im guessing we both are getting feedback because of the absence of a reamp box

[@DeclanTheCrow]

psychedelicgoofball got that sorted ages ago. your interface should’ve came with a mixer software (allows you to monitor direct). what you want to do is mute all the channels on the software.

[@kjareola5]

How about this, From Guitar to Effect Pedal directly to Computer line in to Guitar Software for tecording Is that even Possible? Thabk you sir

[@worshipsmusic3957]

'Computer Line In' being audio interface Hi-Z input, yes, that works.

[@Caribbean_King]

Can pedals be used on samples imported into the MPC??

[@tomvice]

Not just level it's also impedance. The internal routing blabber is useless. From interface line out > reamp box > guitat pedal > active DI > preamp

[@davidlindell7527]

So its mandatory to also have a Reamp box in order to use pedals?

[@Sursie_Metzger]

I have just recorded directly through my effects but have seen people explain how to reamp with them without using a reamp box etc. But it varies on what kind of sound you want to go for. Apparently if you have a buffer pedal or any boss pedal (since they have buffers built in) you can also use that as a reamp box. It’s not totally necessary, it just gives you a better chance at creating as clean of a recording with your effects as possible by converting the impedance that travels through and out of your pedals etc.

[@tomvice]

Yes. Impedance mismatch makes the signal really sound really thin without it. You'll ALSO need a DI after the pedal if you have a focusrite crappy interface (that are notorious for their shitty hi-z inputs)

[@Dustiliciousz]

Wow, this is one great technique. Does Logic also have a nice, handy overlay like Pro Tools?

[@graphenemusic5922]

yes it daws!:))

[@GAAAAC]

@@graphenemusic5922 how do you get it? i was wondering the same thing! thanks in advance

[@GeorgyAlekseev]

I really dig this guy's advices. Looking forward for mixing session video with him!

[@richb3326]

can you repeat the thing when you said the thing?

[@DubsMood]

Keyword: Delay Compensation. Protools can do this by itself, can't it? At least in my system (PT 10) it can be activated.

[@ytscksdabig1]

Delay Compensation on Pro Tools is for processing with plug-ins. You never, ever, want to record with Delay Compensation on. If you want to time align things that have latency delay, like in this video, you'd be using tab to transient and nudging the audio files in place.

[@graysonkemp8870]

Beginner question: so you can’t use pedals as outboard gear through reamping if you want to mic an amp?

[@christophernoia5197]

No, you can do that. If you do the same exact thing in this video, then end the pedal chain by connecting to an amplifier instead of a di box. Once you have signal going to the amp, just mic it up to your interface and daw. Now you’re ready to record the reamped tracks through an amp.

[@faiqlutfishahrin]

hi Sean, quick question. what is that yellow box thing and whats the function ?

[@Reverb]

That is a Reamp Box - Specifically from Radial. Amongst other things, it allows you to send your recorded track out into an amplifier. Check out our video to see what it's all about: goo.gl/WgOfs3

[@faiqlutfishahrin]

thank you !!

[@alexmagnifica]

What about connections? In outs

[@wiishopwednesdayrecords2959]

wtf this is that guy from asob, he had that really good solo album "The Sausage Factory", i love this guy

[@AndyB1286]

Nice one, dude. Since I'm a littly cynical of going back and forth between analog and digital too many times, I think I'll try routing my outboard signal via a reverb or chorus pedal before it reaches my DAW at all. All a question of good gain-staging and experimentation. Nice video :-)

[@glaucocataldo3183]

what reamp box is this? please can somebody explain?

[@glaucocataldo3183]

and couldn't he have taken an extra minute to quickly show the exact signal chain?! fuck what is going where in the signal chain

[@renesupersonic]

Did he re-record the track twice or just once?

[@kierojin]

Here's a video that actually shows the whole process of doing this properly: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mn_EfIiBj6qgi7c

[@sadspaceboy8217]

I was thinking you would need a DI box to go back in to your interface. I've heard some people say you should and others haven't mentioned it. Seems like you really don't.

[@setheinsteiner2980]

You don't need to if your interface has instrument inputs m. If it doesn't, you need a di box to connect to a line level input.

[@BoyAditya]

great tips

[@all_mesa_man922]

lol "Let's say I'm not who I am and blah blah blah" Whoooo pray tell ARE you, person I've never ever heard of before?

[@Leo_Berger]

Why do you use an reamppedal? You are not reamping anything. Just line out-any pedal-line in. I would really like to hear if there is ANY difference without the reamp-pedal. Just adjust the gain insted.

[@Sasketchejuana_man]

Latency is a muh fuh mane

[@vitalmakhdum]

This video doesn’t help on how to actually set up. Waste of 4 minutes or so

[@michaelaguilar524]

I'm ultra confused. And I feel dumb. Whatever. Gonna have to watch a few times. I have to get some kinda dsi?

[@guitarstella1]

too fast what connects n why....next

[@sinarrecordsmedia2262]

Where how to?

[@sharonlee4773]

Poorly & lazily explained-who is this guy?

[@JM.COSMIC]

Pónele voluntad...

[@caspermaster-com]

I made a video today showing more how to set it up:) kzbin.info/www/bejne/mKXbqaxtqbZ9sKc

[@SantanaSasquatch]

I have no idea what he’s doing 😊

[@outdatedgear5036]

It’s 2022, get a gt-1000 core or a helix.

[@Asmogrim]

I think I might be dumb.

[@rkl08551]

faPPle users call that a touchscreen...

[@atee103]

where is the outboard gear....

[@_Lucrativesounds]

This cool, but committing to your sound on the way in is probably going to help keep your hair on your head, your mind in your skull, and complete your record quicker. Still very cool.

[@Ikirupp1994]

Terrible video. You didn’t explain at all how to do it

[@ytscksdabig1]

This is not a good idea at all. You've already converted the signal from Analog to Digital once when recording it, now you're processing the Digital to Analog signal again, and then REPROCESSING the whole thing again as a 3rd conversion. The sound is just going to get degraded and degraded.

[@pj5306]

Ltw Recordings That’s why you use the Aux track to compensate for any signal loss. Also a good clean overdrive plugin will get you back to the original signal. Just a lil touch though!