How To Use Overlord Bot on Enigma's Dynamic Cold War Campaign PVP/PVE Server | Tips & Tricks

[@Enigma89]

The Overlord links are in the description if you want more information or are looking to learn the aircraft list/phraseology and/or submit voice training. If you would like to support the server please consider donating to Patreon www.patreon.com/enigma89 If you want to watch RouniJones stream, he can be found here: www.twitch.tv/rurounijones He made the bot completely free for the community so drop him a follow :)

[@josdcs6099]

is textalord (or whatever the text overlord is) just as expensive for you guys?

[@joehill4945]

Wow, had no idea it was so expensive. Signed up for Patreon. Keep making awesome content and thanks for the server.

[@Enigma89]

Thank you!

[@teggy689]

Yeah me too! Didn't know Overlord cost actual money... I'm joining the patreon now.

[@BlueSky-fur]

The overlord wiki states it’s fine on the free Tier from azure tough, so I’m a bit confused

[@sanderbakker482]

Excellent video. Now i know each call costs money i will certainly use the bot more smartly.

[@jimlthor]

Haha. I'm usually trying not to annoy everyone else. But, I guess I'll throw these guys a few bucks if I do decide to stick with online play

[@Enigma89]

Boom!

[@Mako-sz4qr]

Yeah it’s annoying that some ask for bogey dopes every 20 secs. Glad you put this out 👍🏻

[@Enigma89]

I feel like it's been better since this was released so hoping it persists.

[@Barney-ic3uy]

simple and concise - really good Video. Happy to venture onto the server

[@Enigma89]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@jimlthor]

Thanks for this video! I don't play online very often, but I jumped on the Cold War server and was able to figure out enough to get "Bogey Dope" calls, but didn't know what "Shopping" or other options were. I also didn't understand the trip wire command. I wasn't sure if it followed me, or if it was stationary, and if I left my trip-wired area, if it was a waste. I read the faq pages, but it wasn't very specific, and searching online didn't bring up much help. Anyways. Thanks, again. This was very helpful

[@JorgeHFJ]

Nice! I was looking for a tutorial about it!!! Thanks you, Enigma! o7

[@Enigma89]

Glad it came in time! Thanks

[@ruf01au]

have to get involved in the cw server - incredible tech - thanks

[@Enigma89]

IF you have any technical skills in system admin or development let me know by dm'ing me on discord

[@Prawnman_JT]

Great video. Thanks. Love the server and the channel. I agree… cold war is the future

[@Enigma89]

Thank you!

[@Enigma89]

Two Points: 1) Shopping and Bogey dope are actually the exact same commands. You can append things to the Shopping phraseology as well. You can also ask for Fighters, Long range fighters, attackers, bombers etc. Overlord, Admin 1-1, Shopping Bombers (Shopping for bombers might work as well). 2) The merge warning of 5 miles is following the USAF guidelines (3-5 miles) in case people start going "Can you make it 4 miles?". 3) Where is ... can also be used for Airfields if players need directions back to base. e.g. Overlord, Admin 1-1, Where is Kutaisi or Overlord, Admin 1-1, Vectors / Bearing / Heading to Kutaisi

[@BrianTRice77]

Would it be appropriate or feasible to have the bot screen for objectionable tripwire or merge warning radii? Just make it impossible versus policing or punishing the players. I wish I had the time to set up a DCS gaming rig just to try all this. Automating GCI reasoning is an interesting topic I wish I had time for as a software engineer.

[@overlordbot]

OverlordBot is a 1 man operation. Time spent trying to do this is time spent not working on features and others stuff which I think are more important. So this is not going to happen unless someone else implements it.

[@BrianTRice77]

@@overlordbot I’ll check out the code and see whether I can make a dent in this.

[@launchsquid]

I still don't understand what is "dishonest" about flying low and avoiding line of sight.

[@Enigma89]

The fights are more interesting at altitude but with DCS spotting and the habits of players over the years, people fly low to hide and then take advantage of players flying higher. Overlord will give you a warning if someone is crawling up from the trees.

[@bazejs8084]

Lovely opening music

[@ryu1940]

Very good informative video!

[@Enigma89]

Glad it was helpful!

[@FlavorfulGaming]

"Overload promotes you to not cockroach on the deck" I'ma say naw lol. I've never seen a viggen higher then 700 ft.....ever.

[@naloxone04]

Disabling terrain masking kind of defeats the entire purpose of the Viggen there.

[@Enigma89]

That's what they are made to do

[@-Zevin-]

@@naloxone04 It ruins the Mig-21 vs F-4 dynamic as well when that module releases. The Mig-21 success for instance in south east Asia was using terrain masking and pop up attacks on F-4, assuming both aircraft know where they are and are flying at altitude the Mig is going to be at a severe disadvantage. No Vietnam war type tactics unfortunately.

[@SkullKing11841]

@@-Zevin- But in other servers doesn't everyone just stay super low anyway so the pop up tactics wouldn't be a thing because the F4 would be terrain masking to?

[@-Zevin-]

@@SkullKing11841 That is a kind of meta allot of places, however in a cold war setting one of the huge advantages the F4 has (when it comes) is the sparrow missile, which can shoot out over 15 miles with radar. I have been thinking up an idea for a map that I want to present at some point, but I feel like it needs to be fairly well thought out. Something that would be interesting is a attack/ defend game mode. Red must defend the homeland and control most of the map at the start of the game, while blue must grind down ground targets through bombing to win) If it is at all possible, only give the AI overlord bot to the defending side (red). Simulating the defenders having radar contact and preparation against the attackers, therefore they would be known at all times to red (low or high) Red could rely much more on low flying stealth tactics to ambush. To balance blue in the attacking side, they could have more access to longer range but still early type missiles, or greater amounts of more capable aircraft) teamwork would also be more important to blue, stick together, fly at altitude and use the superior sparrow missiles for air defense, while bombers fly low with top cover. It would be pretty incredible to see well done teamwork, fighter wings and bombers working together. While the red team could be effectively terrain masked and do surprise pop up attacks against blue in a less organized fashion, but with more primitive weapon systems/ aircraft as the counter balance. Fundamentally what I want to see is a game mode that gets us the closest to experiencing a Vietnam war style air war. Including the asymmetrical tactics of the day.

[@patriciomassun]

this is like science fiction to me! woow!

[@matts2758]

Isn't the trade off of flying low a lower amount of potential energy and a higher risk of hitting the ground? (and flying high is an energy advantage but more people can see you). Seems weird to allow the bot to see everything when there's a natural balance in place for flying low in the first place. Also takes the excitement out of a low flying ambush attack.

[@Enigma89]

It's only weird in this game because of how bad spotting is. In every other game, altitude is an advantage as it is more potential energy. We try to promote good behavior. I do not find it particularly interesting to skim trees to pop out on people who are easier to see because of how the game renders objects.

[@matts2758]

@@Enigma89 Thanks for the explanation.

[@matts2758]

@@Enigma89 The only problem I can see with this approach however is that it penalises attack aircraft that rely on moving low and slow to avoid detection. Fighter aircraft still have radars and an idea of where the enemy is going to be based on attack zones despite the visual limitations.

[@Enigma89]

@@matts2758 The radars are useless against the ground, if you fly low you won't show up on radar. The attacking aircraft is operating with the same information as the defending one. It works IMHO.

[@matts2758]

@@Enigma89 kzbin.info/www/bejne/l53ClYiblJyXoKM why does he say the bot can see everything all the time in this video at 2 minutes?

[@biffrapper]

Is there not a way to buy an unlimited use license to the API for a reasponable price? This sounds excessive that Microsoft charges for every single use. Thank you for the server and tutorial.

[@Enigma89]

No not at this time. We are hoping that maybe the Overlord creator can come up with a system that uses a cheaper language learning model. For now this is the best option. If everyone is diligent with using it and chips in via patreon then it can be covered.

[@DuVey64]

Ok , so flying the A10A on the server , I have the SRS radio set to channel 253 for Overlord , but the DCS AWACS keeps giving out calls on the same channel when it shouldn’t be .

[@Enigma89]

It is because if fc3. Hit right shift / twice. Fc3 planes are tuned to all channels. Just one of those dcs features.

[@woodsmaneh952]

I heart Enigma

[@RoamingAdhocrat]

That BRA call at the end: "Admin 1-1, Overlord, BRA, two eight seven, two hundred and eighty-six, angels one" - is this standard phraseology, reading 286 as "two hundred and eighty six"? I'd have expected "bearing two eight seven, range two eight six miles"… coming from UK civil aviation and new to DCS multiplayer

[@ToshisanMotonaka]

Since the cost is so high, I'm assuming there's a cool down?

[@snakeoo7ca]

Cant the automated EWR reports on the server still detect low flying aircraft at angels 0? That needs a fix asap

[@Enigma89]

If they are seen by a radar they will be called

[@Robbadobbsoldier]

I’m trying to find info on textlord. Commands and what not. Are they the same as overlord? And is textlord free of charge?

[@Enigma89]

You can find it on the FAQ. It's accessible via the f10 radio menu on other > overlord. It is free to use

[@Robbadobbsoldier]

@@Enigma89 thx 😁

[@ttenor12]

One question, you mentioned that Overlord bot ignores helicopters. I'm understanding that it doesn't give you information about enemy helicopters. But if I'm flying in a helo, can I use it to have SA when it comes to enemy fixed wing aircraft?

[@Enigma89]

Overlord cannot see helicopters so it cant talk to helicopters. We cant set it up any other way unless it sees helos.

[@ttenor12]

@@Enigma89 oh man :/ I guess the only way to have SA as a heli is speaking to other people then :/

[@overlordbot]

OverlordBot should now be able to hear you when you are in a helo and warn you of enemy jets if you set a tripwire. It will not, however, warn you about enemy helicopters.

[@Enigma89]

@@overlordbot I read this in the overlord voice :D

[@snow1-2pinkkush46]

I dont really have trouble spotting in dcs il2 is way worst to spot for me but overlord is a blessing still

[@jimlthor]

Weird. I think IL2 is easier to spot in than DCS. My biggest problem with IL2 is identifying whatever Im looking at since I play mostly in VR. Usually whatever I'm trying to identify is close enough to kill me before I can make out their shape

[@SmokinKipper]

Is there a difference between using voice to activate the bot vs just using a hotkey to request bogie dope?

[@Enigma89]

Yes. Bogie dope is for the vanilla awacs system. Overlord works off srs

[@dustindejonge5741]

how much do you think it would cost for 1 person? i wanna atleast pay in patreon for myself as selfish as it sounds :P dont wanna feel guilty everytime i use it

[@patsplats]

My eyes aren't strained looking for targets. I actually find it disappointing that this feature takes away realism from the server. Please consider using a new system that works off ground based radars only.

[@Enigma89]

People fly higher in Battlefield 2 than they do in some DCS servers because people abuse the LOS system. Overlord is not going away. I am sorry. If you feel like that is a deal breaker for you, there is another Cold War server that does not use Overlord called Cold War 1947 - 1999.

[@patsplats]

​@@Enigma89 People still fly low on your server because they will still get first shot. The only thing that has changed is that flanking tactics have been completely ruined. If people want to know where every enemy is so they don't get jumped, they are cheaters.

[@Enigma89]

Cheating implies an unfair advantage. When both sides have the same information then there is no unfair situation.

[@patsplats]

@@Enigma89 Well the mig 21 is a worse dogfighter and now ever single fight will start with a merge. Besides flying low over flat terrain doesn't hide you from EWR anyway.

[@ChickentNug]

@@patsplats people make it work

[@MoleUK1]

I fly mostly helo atm and was aware overlord ignores helos for shopping/bogey dope/tripwire. But does that mean I can't use overlord to set a small tripwire radius around me when in a helo to alert me to nearby jets? Or to find friendly helos?

[@Enigma89]

Overlord completely ignores helicopters. You should not talk to it if you are in a helicopter. When Overlord could see helicopters, people were getting merge calls from helos that were 5k meters below them. The helos were turkeys and the fighters were ravaging them.

[@MoleUK1]

@@Enigma89 Cheers, makes sense.

[@bsdcasts]

@@Enigma89 Well, you disabled ground clutter, so...

[@overlordbot]

OverlordBot should now be able to hear you when you are in a helo and warn you of enemy jets if you set a tripwire. It will not, however, warn you about enemy helicopters.

[@MoleUK1]

@@overlordbot Oh nice, that's a great addition. I take it I can't use "where is" to locate friendly helos though right?

[@at335pro]

i need to learn what things like "Beam south west" means

[@itsukarine]

Would you prefer new players just avoid Overlord and stick to AWACS? I don't really like talking on mic but seeing the absurd cost of this, I don't really want to contribute to more server strain either.

[@Enigma89]

We replaced overlord with a text based system

[@testflight3690]

does overlord work with the ingame voicechat as well or do i have to install srs?

[@Enigma89]

SRS, no one uses the ingame voice chat

[@dunbar555]

overlord keeps telling me he can't find me on the scope. why is that. he repeats my callsign, Fever 1-1. I dont get it. Any clue ?

[@Enigma89]

This would be best to post on the discord with a link to the overlord logs (its in discord) so we can dissect. It's a bit hard to trouble shoot this in YT comments. It could be possible that DCS thinks you are dead already and Overlord can't see you then. This happens occasionally when you take a hit and DCS thinks you are dead when you aren't.

[@cmdrpepelluce5375]

This bot is amazing but dont even thought it costs so much money

[@Enigma89]

It's not the bot that costs money, what Jones made is technically free. It's the microsoft API that powers the language learning.

[@cmdrpepelluce5375]

@@Enigma89 yep, I got this

[@thecircusfreak5364]

@@Enigma89 is there a point where it’s “learned” enough to use as is? Or is the voice recognition what costs money? Wonder if voice attack could be used instead.

[@rallewilli6521]

Hmmmm, I played yesterday and Overlord wasnt able to reconize the callsign "Beer 1-1". Can she get overstressed? I mean this callsign is easy to understand, right?

[@Enigma89]

Sometimes she can get overwhelmed but in general she is pretty good

[@P-Likan]

I truly have a lot of respect and gratitude your dedication to provide us with this amazing server, but unfortunately my personal opinion on this God mode overlord is very negative. It just destroys the realism of cold war engagements, negating the surprise effect which is and has always been since WWI a major aspect of air engagements, it makes certain aircrafts now unfairly handicapped since they are now forced into a merge against more manoeuverable adversaries and on top of that it costs you a lot of money for unclear "gameplay" benefits :/ It is just my opinion though, thankfully there is another server without it.

[@Enigma89]

Watch the new video posted today

[@P-Likan]

@@Enigma89 Thank you I will. Thank you so much for your fantastic server sincerely, it is truly a gem and my favourite by far online. I also apologize for having voiced my opinion in rather outspoken terms now that I read it again.

[@andreher]

Hi, how to do this with FC3 aircraft? (su-25)

[@Enigma89]

You alt tab and in the SRS panel you tune the channel

[@andreher]

@@Enigma89 thx

[@KhanGirey]

When on blufor, I can sit in 251 and players in 253 (The overlord channel) can hear me. Is this normal? Do the 2 channels somehow connect on the backend?

[@Enigma89]

Your key binds sre overlapping

[@KhanGirey]

@@Enigma89 Oh, it auto connects several radios at once?

[@Enigma89]

In srs there are key binds for each radio. So you want one for primary one for secondary and one for ch 3

[@ryantrahan2240]

cant see you on scope.....

[@Enigma89]

Post in our discord for help

[@speedkiller3026]

cant you just use voice attack instead of that?

[@Enigma89]

I dont think voice attack syncs with awacs

[@gibbo_303]

Kinda pointless if it can see everything, might aswell just have the F-10 settings set to everything

[@chrismalveaux1323]

Good point I agree

[@SirMo]

There has to be a cheaper service for overlord ML stuff. Voice recognition isn't that computationally intensive. Microsoft Azure is generally pretty expensive.

[@Enigma89]

The code is open source. If you can make it we will gladly use a cheaper service that doesn't use Microsoft

[@SirMo]

@@Enigma89 Thanks, will take a look!

[@Enigma89]

If you follow the links in description u can find the info for overlord. Jones has an open git ticket trying to get help to crack this nut

[@SirMo]

@@Enigma89 Yup found it on gitlab. Thanks!

[@ErnestIsGaming]

Overlord costs 400 to 600 dollars a month?!? How do you manage to maintain the expense? Feels like it costs a lot of money for a free to play server.

[@Enigma89]

This video is old the costs are closer in the 250 range because of some changes and textlord (it's free). Overlord is reliant on Microsoft to process the voice.

[@Basilikum42069]

>you might have to do voice training Damn good thing I'm already trans

[@realismisbetter7334]

Kinda wish you could make Overlord a lady again lol. I don't like the guy voice as much, sounds too much like the normal AWACS or micosoft "sam" or whatever and is slightly less interesting. I enjoyed the video tho👍

[@Enigma89]

Yeah the lady voice is for whatever reason is 30% more in cost. I liked her better too.

[@ErnestBord9of9]

Small dot icons would really help the situational awareness problem. I'd be willing to bet you'd have a lot more players and patrons paying you money every month if you put up another server that had icons.

[@Enigma89]

Our team doesn't have the bandwidth to manage two servers at this time. Dots are an incredibly decisive subject in the community. I will look at it but only after we finish the initial release of the features

[@ErnestBord9of9]

@@Enigma89 yep it sure is a touchy subject.

[@SuperEvilMonkee]

I am a relative beginner and whilst I understand people wanting icons I think it detracts from the overall appeal of the server and would turn it into Cold War Air Quake like Growlings Server is currently. Leave it as is, lets just grow the server as more applicable mods are added like the F4E, F1 and MiG23.

[@thomasandolf7365]

as a beginner to DCS watching this did frustrate me... what is overlord, its a automated GCI system. That implies that everyone should know what a "automated GCI system" is, and its importance. Also, when refereing to bogey dopes etc. etc. A tip if you are making a video to try to include people and get more people involved it doesn't take much to explain "overlord is a way to communicate with the radarstations that identifies targets for you, this is also known as a CGI (ground controlled interception)". Then i would not have to need to pause the video, and leave the video to google for 5 minutes and read about what a CGI is and its importance on the battlefield. Just a note.

[@Enigma89]

thx for feedback

[@Hooptymann]

no thanks, I cant talk to women I'm too scared.

[@thecircusfreak5364]

The fact that this costs money to use is so dumb it hurts.

[@overlordbot]

OverlordBot is 100% open source so if you have a better alternative then it is within your power to implement it.

[@barfbot]

yea because voice r ecognition is easy ?

[@NuttyGore2039]

do these channel frequencies for overlord carry on to the germany located server? im looking thru the docs.google presentation with the frequencies but here they are stated as "extra channels"

[@Enigma89]

Overlord was replaced with a new system. That can be found here kzbin.info/www/bejne/iKa4eJSkfMqnh68