How to use rotary phones with VoIP

[@bobrecardo3230]

I stumbled upon this video, and turns out that the Hook Flash setting was exactly the reason I couldn't call out from my Western Electric 564! (Through a Grandstream HT802). Thanks for this video!

[@walnuthills11]

Oh awesome! You are very welcome!

[@generic5783]

now i can use a rotary phone as my daily office phone now! thx

[@walnuthills11]

You got it! You're welcome!

[@junknspam3]

If you want an old fashion Dial Tone instead of the modern "precise" dial tone sound change the frequencies in the Advanced section with this string: f1=480@-17,f2=600@-17,c=0/0; Be sure to write down the old one first in case you want to change it back to modern.

[@walnuthills11]

Oooooh! Good to know! Thanks.

[@InterLinked1]

@@walnuthills11 Better yet, generate a city dial tone in Asterisk using custom audio files and have your ATA pull dial tone from Asterisk instead of generating it itself. Much more authentic! I get a #1 Crossbar dial tone when I pick up my 500 set. Also have an HT 802 (among others) and I think the 8xx ATA is the best on the market at the moment.

[@Mouse-ol6ns]

I could use the old dial tone on my home PBX system and my telephone music studio

[@itsahellofaname]

Now if only I could understand half of that.

[@kristinak1724]

Hello, I see that your phone cord is one of the black round ones. Mine are thin and grey and have a different plug-in, both to the wall and the phone. Will this still work? With this device, can I just plug in the phone to the wall like normal and it'll work? Or do I have to have new wall jacks? Copper phone lines recently stopped working in our area, and we really hope that we can still use these phones so that we don't have to buy new ones for every room. Thank you!

[@KristofKorwisi]

Awesome video! That’d be something I‘d enjoy at home as well :)

[@walnuthills11]

Thanks! Yes, it's wonderful!

[@marcdurbach7036]

Hi, very interesting video. Would it be possible to get a diagramm of the wiring between the rotary phone and the rj11 plug of the HT801 ? Would be interested in building something with my old phones

[@schreds8882]

What do I do if I don't have a PBX? I just have an old rotary phone that I'd like to hook up to my VOIP provided by my cable provider. There is phone jack on the back of my cable router but that's in the basement and this phone needs to be on the main floor for my mom. I don't have old style phone jacks in the house. The reason for doing this is because my mom is getting up there in years and is having just a bit of trouble with memory. She knows how to use the old rotary phone but has problems with my VOIP phones. I just want to put this old rotary phone in the living room by her chair so she can make calls the old fashioned way. ❤❤

[@matilotelephones3557]

Nice video. However 10 Hz is pretty standard word wide. The Swedish and New Zealand setting have nothing to do with pulse rate, but with number distribution. The numbers order on the fingerwheel is different in Sweden and New Zealand. Sweden is 0, 1 - 9. New Zealand has a reverse number order, so 0, 9, 8 - 1.

[@walnuthills11]

Oh oops, that's right. Thanks.

[@grahamgrierson8094]

If the New Zealand and Swedish systems aren't strange enough - Norway used the normal 0=10 PPS / 1=1PPS system, except for Oslo which used the New Zealand system 0=10 PPS / 1= 9PPS.

[@fizzyplazmuh9024]

Cleaning my mother's house out I found an NEC MobilePro 400. Meh, 80s address organizer type junk I assumed. But it looked so old I had to check it out. I was surprised to find it runs Windows CE andnhas a PC card slot. I wondered for and Idle moment if I could link it to my ERS-210 Aibo. But then I found 2/3 of the screen is glitzed so the fun ends there. From trash to treasure and back to trash again. C'est la vie. On a weird side not, my mother seems to have had an addiction. I have found 19 Android tablets and counting and every one of them dead as stones.

[@uniteddrones7626]

How exactly do you get a sip I can’t understand that, do you buy one? How do you setup a sip

[@walnuthills11]

SIP is the VoIP protocol. It lets you log into a server that handles telephone over the internet.

[@netboy0]

where I can find instructions for the MTA 6328-2Re on how to get pulse/rotary phone to dial on this ATA ? thanks

[@walnuthills11]

I will look around for the directions I followed. I think you need to unlock yours first.

[@netboy0]

@@walnuthills11 Hi Abraham thanks for the quick response. It is working now, I was missing the digits mapping in the 6328 to dial "xx" which is what I'm using now in my lab. So basically after doing that I can call in and it rings (is loud!) and dial pulse which no problem. There's no setting for pulse so I guess the ATA detect it or something.

[@junknspam3]

Set hook flash timing to 500ms and you'll be fine. (If you want to use call waiting and 3 way calling).

[@walnuthills11]

Hmmmm. I will have to try that. Exactly 500 ms?

[@junknspam3]

@@walnuthills11 yes. Bell System standard timing for calling features like call waiting etc. I don't know if that will mess up your SIP pulse to tone services.

[@walnuthills11]

Oh gotcha. So that could mess up pulse decoding.

[@markdm5415]

SIP info has nothing to do with decoding DTMF from pulse while in a call! It is only a method to send/receive DTMF like inland or RFC2833 . Most any ATA supports SIP info country to your closing comments. That does not mean that it supports "tone over-dialing" while in a call.

[@TheRojo387]

Later phones just had "oper" on their 0 spaces as "operator" wouldn't fit on the space.

[@dilhangurbuzergamingchanel7306]

Hi, can I bridge this to work with my obihai box, I don’t have a PBX nor do I want to have to pay for a SIP provider.

[@walnuthills11]

I don't think so. The Obihai box doesn't support pulse dialing from what I remember.

[@walnuthills11]

You would need a Linux PC running a PBX to bridge Google Voice to a rotary phone through a pulse dial capable ATA.

[@dilhangurbuzergamingchanel7306]

@@walnuthills11 would pbx is a good one? I have a old dell computer that runs windows 10 would that be ok? I want to use my rotary phones but my obihai doenst support it. I got this from my neighbor and I reset it since ut was locked to voange and used a serial cable to unlock it and I tried using a tutorial from classic rotary phones, but it failed and it doesn’t work.

[@walnuthills11]

@@dilhangurbuzergamingchanel7306 That PC is more than enough. You will want a Linux PC though, and Incredible PBX is the simplest PBX server to configure. You can even use a thin client with upgraded hard drive. I have a tutorial on Incredible PBX bridging to Google Voice in another video. Also remember you need a second Grandstream or equivalent pulse dial capable ATA for the rotary phone.

[@dilhangurbuzergamingchanel7306]

@@walnuthills11 it’s a icore 5, would that be ok?

[@thewellfedhuman3043]

OMGosh. All of that for something that used to have one little wire that plugged into the wall. Is this really an advancement in technology? LOL

[@walnuthills11]

LMAO, true true. Love the sound quality tho

[@bichela]

Remember, ma bell had all that in a big building.

[@dashthearcticfox9759]

Great vid! I have a question though, how did you get the ip address for configuring the ata? I have a rotary phone connected to the ht801 aswell and Im stuck figuring out how to access the device´s configurations

[@walnuthills11]

Hmmmm, I would check on your router's DHCP page! Good luck! Alternatively, you could just connect the ATA straight to a PC via Ethernet and then the ATA address should be in the same subnet as the PC but something like x.x.x.1. Let me know how I can help further!

[@janetrocco2475]

open a Command Prompt window and enter the command “arp -a” - then look for the mac address of your ATA and it will show the IP for it

[@freesaxon6835]

👍🏻

[@junknspam3]

PPS Pulse per second

[@walnuthills11]

Yep! Pulse per second

[@redacxyz]

Do you have a discord i may contact you for help with?, im doing this project myself

[@walnuthills11]

I do! Let me get the link

[@walnuthills11]

discord dot gg/QcGRwmsu

[@redacxyz]

@@walnuthills11 any free VOIPS compatible with this?

[@redacxyz]

Or any youd recommend?

[@walnuthills11]

@@redacxyz Yes, Google Voice.