HOW TO VIDEO: Roofing Basics ...Installing a valley on a shingle roof...the easiest and fastest way

[@pdxmhatter]

Thanks Eric for this great video. We installed our own open valley and it looks beautiful following your video!!

[@alexgrieb2753]

thanks man I needed a refresher course it's been about 5 years since Seattle you don't use it you lose it keep up with the vids man their working

[@bryanhauschild4376]

Best explaination so far sir!

[@arevalosalvador4921]

we in Michigan use ice and water shield under the valey run it like how you would the metal valley and then lay the metal valley and then get another peace of ice and water or grace cut in half long ways so you have 2 peaces and lay them 5 to 6 inches from the center of the valley in order to cover nail in that area... thats the best way to do it brothers... no leaks!!! and we chalk our line 3 in from the top of the valley and 4 in on bottom

[@russelltech7691]

that's how we install it in Indiana as well. cover's the nails and an extra leak barrier.

[@irisgg858]

sounds like a badass Overkill done right. 💪👍

[@e.kreeft3784]

Thank-you, just did my valley. It looks awesome, and so easy. I think you're my best friend now.

[@Garciasroofing]

Lol...thanks for posting!

[@paulhaines5755]

Bad idea in snowy/rainy climate. Probably O.K. where dry but I highly doubt it meets mfg. specs. Water will stay in gaps on valley roofing that's place "sideways" and eventually damage/lift it especially when it freezes + get into the nails easier. Gaps need to run down hill as straight as possible just like every other shingle on the roof and you need to cut small 45 degree corner off each shingle on top in valley to release water. Glue the seam a couple inches inboard. I'm from the frozen north, though. Good video, thanks for doing it - just my opinion and I could be totally wrong.

[@dieselmakesmehappy]

Awesome video. I am going to try your method tomorrow. Looks like it leaves a real clean look. Thanks again for sharing some wisdom.

[@pintobean9071]

I do my valleys the same way. Never had a problem. Only thing I do different is I don't chalk the lines on W valley. I have a four foot "yard" stick that's 2" wide and I set my starter (header) shingle to that. I just slide it up as I go. It works slick and saves me steps. You'll find that the people who criticize you are the ones who really don't know as much as they think they do. They might have a roof or two under their belts but that's about it. I tell them to come back when they have about ten-thousand or so squares behind them and then we'll talk.

[@brianharrington3179]

Pinto Bean I agree

[@Vaaenn]

Theres nothing wrong with it, per se, but, he has seams on seams. Thats the sign of a hack right there. Shitty work.

[@Scar_Face-78]

When i saw this video i knew right away that an open valley will be what i'm gonna go for, doing my house roof for the first time by myself and it when all well. Being a Canadian living on east coast with hard winter weather i was a bit worried but now that i done it and saw the shingle bounding with the metal sheet from hot sunny days i have no worries now for the incoming winter....e Eric Garcia thanks a lot for this video, one of the few very well made roofing valley video on here. P.S.( Would have been nice to see how to make the part where the valley end and you have to join it with the main roof.)

[@horsesandharleys1178]

I admire your work ethic and skill. I'm a woman and will be starting my roof soon. I can't afford the 8,000 I was quoted. I have been studying roofing now for weeks. You are awesome and thanks for your contribution.

[@flakosarabia]

Mary McKenzie just watch out, he's doing it wrong.

[@hugogomez459]

I use the same system here in Seattle. It works just fine, I never had a leaky roof.

[@southeasternfarms3730]

Awesome valley bro. I learned this from you and it's all I've used since

[@natefigueroa]

Never seen it done this way. Great idea. I just don't like how it looks. But I will try using it in the future. Some people might not like the look of it this way.

[@JerZyDude88]

Bravo you know thats it right there nice simple and beautiful pop i mean why everybody making it difficult lol nice video.

[@jayeferguson330]

Great job, best roofer

[@joemommma6573]

im glad i watched this. i only put 2 nails in each starter shingle for valleys and bottoms. cause the other shingles get 5 nails. and in valleys you nail up it to. just a tip to save u some nailing labor

[@goodguycg]

hey my friend your work looks good and clean you also cut a straight line thanks for the video

[@fkuckyou8465]

Tengo 19 años y Poco a Poco voy aprendiendo de sus videos para aprender El jale de roofing mas, yo vivo en California

[@jasonward4153]

im a roofer never seen this style on shingles . great job

[@vnguyen9327]

Thank you so much. I love you, my big master.

[@jeffdeluca1153]

Nice neat installation Eric! Clean lines, plenty of nails! Need people like you on my team! Keep up the good work!

[@MaizeTheGamer_VR]

Jeff DeLuca "Plenty of nails"?!? Right in the fuckin valley.. That's retarded and you must not be a roofer if "plenty of nails" is what you look for in your valleys Lmfao.. Partnered with 4inch slivers of a shingle to end your run into the valley.. Eric, your videos are great, this is the first video i've watched of yours that I didn't feel like it was done correctly... And to the commenter, you're a dumbass.

[@ryanbrouillard2926]

Yeah nails in the valley is a no go. You also don't nail through the metal you nail so only the head catches the side. This way you don't get the wrinkles you have. Also your using way to many nails it's 4 nails a single not 6 or 7. I don't get these guys that are about doing quick and having tail light warranties. Ps never had a leak on any roofs I've installed but fixed plenty from others that wouldn't come back to own their mistakes

[@spacecoastz4026]

I haven't seen one video yet where I like how they work a valley. There is always something. Same with this one.

[@GabodaBuilding]

I like how you're saying it works try it you're right that should work even in Pennsylvania any difference in Pennsylvania cuz the winner will use ice and water Shield then we can run our Valley very good video

[@multipulti161]

Привет из России! Очень, очень, очень хорошая и качественная работа!!! Снимайте больше видео! Все классно! Удачи! Hello from Russia! Very, very, very good and good work !!! Shoot more videos! Everything's OK! Good luck!

[@brandonbissett3199]

I can see how this works just fine because it keeps your lines strait and nice. me personally I book up the valley and cut the angle useing a chalk line I did before booking. as you said it's not wrong the way you do it it's going to stay dry. I just like to cut each shingle so there's no under shingle like you have there. but still good work man. keep giving roofers like us good names, unlike those hacks that fuck it up for everyone

[@hippityhoppity3800]

he would fail inspection. not supposed to do valleys like that

[@brandonbissett3199]

jose perez it all depends on what code is for your state and the material he's using. malarkey material states that it's fine to do that. but CertainTeed says no, so it all depends

[@santosmedina107]

Muy bueno video cuantos clavos se le ponen a cada hoja de roof gracias

[@patrickmclaughlin6013]

looks great

[@sanfordgraham1603]

Thank you , we have a mess from someone else's poor repair's, this will help a lot,hopefully eliminate the problem ...

[@diastoleny]

Very helpful. Thanks. That guy had his back so close to the edge!! Made me nervous just watching! That's roofing. Stay safe.

[@mannyochoa3041]

Thank you that's great I'm doing my first valley this morning

[@justinjacinto4350]

Great looking roof! I've been roofing in Massachusetts for 15 years now and I've done my valleys this way since day one. Never have any problems at all and we get plenty of ice and snow here. As far as running out of the valley I've found with a field as large as that I'd rather run my normal left to right pattern. Me and my guys are all faster from right to left just from habit. I'm left handed and I still run quicker that way. Keep up the good work

[@luisarturo5225]

Excelente video paisa...

[@vaccumme]

Outstanding! I'm going to do mine Roof like that. Ted.

[@DrakeMiester]

I was in the process of a whole roof replacement,and the valley ways in the old roof were the old style roll metal roll flashing and had been leaking for some time.I found your video on how to do it the right way,found the w valley flashing locally and your way of doing it has worked out great.Thanks so much for taking the time to video how it is done.Much respect.

[@Garciasroofing]

Thank you sir , I'm glad my video was able to help you , it's the purpose of any video I upload , to reach some one in the crowd and help with my tips. thanks for watching . greetings. Eric.

[@henrygonzalez1201]

Good work macho!

[@russelltech7691]

some people will tell you to seal the shingles to the metal after you pop the line.once the son hits the shingles, they seal and stick to the metal. the only thing different here is we install ice and water under the metal,then cut a piece of ice and water in half and run it on both sides of the metal. however I've seen it both ways, and personally I've never had a problem with it. 👍

[@kentalbert9154]

That's how I do it in Canada and we call it a California valley... Can't beat it fast and clean looking when done everytime.

[@mpugliano]

Nice work thank you for sharing

[@philsmith1672]

It really doesn't matter how long you have been roofing if what you are doing is incorrect. There are things that we are required to go by like building codes and manufacturer's specifications. Also when you were nailing fast it looked as though you were nailing high (above the nail line in the single-ply). Every bundle of shingles has instructions to the specifications for installation and if you don't follow those specifications then later when the homeowner has a problem with the roof and the shingle manufacturer's rep comes out and inspects the roof, they will deny it because of faulty installation.

[@kevinwilmoth7710]

great work where i live we get a lot of rain and snow, so i use ice and water shield under the w valley as well as over the w valley, (not over it completely but just to where your shingles are. One 1 thing i dont personally like, is it looked like you are using 3-tab shingles for starter, i know a lot of roofers that do, but i much prefer an actual starter strip, although using the 3-tab doesnt affect the standard warranty of shingles, it will not pass for a gaf golden pledge or system plus warranty.

[@Garciasroofing]

+John Rawlins you are right ! I run out of starters ...I ordered 2 bundles and I was short 2 pieces at the valley area...LOL I don't like to use 3 tabs shingles as starters because the starter bundle gives me more lineal feet than the bundle of 3 tabs. Greetings from CA ...where we have 1 week of rain the whole winter.

[@salsears3076]

You are #1

[@ChrisMac87]

gotta cover the whole starter shingle. I've replaced many valleys people have done this way because it leaves too much space for water

[@Bob42047bmx]

Yep. thats basically a shitty ass california valley 😅😅.

[@frankmontez6853]

Amateur do it yourself roofer here and I've been having a small isolated leak right at bottom of my valley . Looks like you gave me a good idea . I put in roof cement but still leaks . Just do it right like you show

[@MrMac5150]

Good video.

[@Garciasroofing]

thank you sir

[@Shasha8674]

Thanks! God bless!

[@qmax-en5ry]

I prefer to start my shingles from the valley, so don't have to install small pcs close to the valley.

[@flakosarabia]

qmax1969 I agree, that makes you a real pro

[@chrismosher3297]

qmax1969 ......always a full shingle out of the valley...if i need a small piece. ..tab..... i put it in other side of my whole shingle

[@qmax-en5ry]

chris mosher yes I agree ,that is when you start from the opposite side of the valley, but like I said I prefer to start my shingles from the valley Is faster once you learn to nail to the left or to the right

[@bigal9940]

I also start working out of the valley and just run it back. Much faster and you only have one cut. I start working out of the valley on both sides that way it's only to do the valley cut, clip the corner, and run it back to the eve. I go up 3 or 4 courses before cutting the ends. I just find it's faster when you have 1 person taking care of the valleys while the other guy is finishing the runs up the roof

[@molallaretreat1]

Iko starter

[@nicktesla3500]

Bravo amigo.

[@natto_4]

Eric, I love your videos! Do you have video where you show both metal valleys from the dormer tying into each other. I have a couple ways I cut and create an upside down "V" at the top of the valley. I'd also like to see how you install the ridge cap over the top of metal valley and under the shingles on the main roof. Thanks! -Mario

[@mathewkelley7885]

nice work

[@germanferro2263]

Thank you for sharing bro!

[@frankmontez6853]

No plastic roof cement under the tin valley ?

[@artman102]

I prefer using 'rain and ice' weather guard and then closed valley. That way no leaves or needles get stuck in the valley. You just use a leaf blower and it's all clean.

[@GetRealwithMike]

Thanks. I'm putting a small roof over a porch. One side goes to a wall with vinyl siding and the other side is going to attach to the garage roof. I'm assuming where the garage roof and the new porch roof meet, valley flashing is the best way to mate the two together? Great video.

[@SkilledEddie]

I would make sure i would have at least a 1/4 of shingle as the last piece in the valley. No way i would nail those slivers anywhere on a roof. Those slivers are the first to blow off in high winds.

[@canocano5480]

Can you put a water barrer on the edge of the metal valley then put the shingle length of the valley then start the shingles

[@rmcmunoz2]

Nice

[@REFERTECH4U]

What part of california are you in? I need an estimate for a new roof

[@andrewdenine1685]

What's the hard hat for blocking the sun or ya getting ready for the sky hook

[@bob4163]

Excellent work! Question; do you overlap the underlayment in the valley?

[@crcrodriguez8489]

Buen trabajo aca en florida se le pone bull al valley

[@Walkinginthelight38]

You supposed to add one eighth of an inch per foot going down the valley to that sock line so that you have created a wider Channel at the bottom is what per manufacturer pabco Premier shingles advises what do you think you're a really excellent roofer by the way I just want to tell you that

[@jasonorozco5867]

Your third shingle you left it seem on seem and one I thing I always do before snapping the line is add ice&water strips along both sides of the aluminum valley

[@jerrywalker7489]

Both seams were over valley. No biggie

[@danielcuriel7065]

Definetly not the best way. You should never have so many small pieces that close to a valley.

[@Jimmy_Cavallo]

You would do this open valley in an area that gets snow? Ice shield at the bottom of the roof goes up 3 feet. Here in the valley the paper underneath is only a couple of inches away.??

[@xxROEVYxx]

Open valleys are nice where applicable. Obviously not the best option in places with more rain snow and ice. I'm in pa and everyone usually does closed cut valleys. Decent looking though man!! Not crazy at all about the shortys in the valley. 6th at part plus the matching seams made me cringe alot lol but general you have some great vids! Roof on!

[@russelltech7691]

most of these guys don't start in the valley because they don't like to roof from right to left only from left to right here in Indiana we install ice and water shield underneath the metal and then ice and water shield on both sides on top of the metal before you pop the line and run the shingles for a leak barrier I've seen it done both ways and it works either way

[@troybrown976]

looks good, im sure it wont leak, but im also sure warranty void, as is any insurance claim if ever need be, lol, shmucks

[@alfredopizarro8516]

It seems like this guy who was doing this valley he said that he knew what he was doing because he has been doing roofing for twenty six years and this guy needs to desliza that just because you been doing roofing for twenty six that doesnt means everything he doing is right. well guess what my friend if you been doing it wrong all those years you don’t know jack you have to learn correctly and than my be you can brag a little I raeally don’t know wh they let these folks do these vidios

[@pizzoffwanker]

This may work for sunny California but it would cause big problems anywhere with snow,

[@Bob42047bmx]

Prob called California valley bc ppl over there do everything the easy way or the wrong way. I live in Texas & that shit causes leaks here. Its ok bc they are EASY to pull up & re-shingle 😅

[@davidtaylor1096]

I use the speed valley or blood valley system works gr8

[@drmachinewerke1]

I’ve been thinking about trying something similar. Use a modified sbs roll cut into 3rds full length. Same color as shingle. Or once done paint w valley and modified and sprinkle in granules to match Been a flat roof for 38 years now retired. Have not done Complete ( just repairs) steep in years . Now roofing my 8-12. Based in waiting for architectural shingles to arrive. I hate working off of roof jacks. But at 58 I do not bounce back

[@elpelon10501]

Safety's first !!!!

[@MikeHenry3280]

i must be not thinking correct but why were there ends of some of the shingles lining up with the one right below it.. i know usually u have like a 5 to 6 inch difference at the ends, but it looked liked a couple pieces where ending at the same point..... if im saying that right.. maybe its alil different in valley

[@joemommma6573]

i never seen anyone do this. but it makes perfect sense. i love this idea

[@Condor1970]

Is it your opinion that installing a metal W-Valley is superior to standard overlapping of the shingles?

[@1971SuperLead]

I think it depends on where you live. I live in the high desert of California with a 3 in 12 roof, and I think a metal valley is a bad idea for me because the weather here changes by 30 degrees everyday. Since metal has a different expansion rate than shingles, it causes a lot of friction and therefore...wear. The metal also gets searing hot in the sunshine, causing the shingles nearby to overheat, and then warp and deteriorate. I really mulled over the idea of using metal or not, and ended up just going with a closed cut valley with an inverted 36" wide rolled roofing for a membrane running verticle all the way up the valley, underneath the shingles. I had a lot of synthetic paper under the valley as well. This was my first roofing job ever. I did all the work by myself. We've had a lot of rain with wind over the last couple months and the roof worked flawlessly. I did the closed cut valley in my own special way. Since I had a lot of time on my hands I cut the upper shingles so that the upper top corner butted up against the lower edge of the lower layer of shingles. Doing this was time consuming, but it made the second layer of shingles lay twice as flat inside the valley, giving a lot more protection from dirt, wind and wind driven rain. It will also keep those shingles cooler as they are laying flat and being cooled by the attic air. I really need to make a video showing this, but it's easy to understand once you see how the shingles meet in the valley. It's just a really bad idea to have gaps under the shingles where wind, dirt and water can sneak under and cause all kinds of problems, especially on a low slope roof in a high wind area.

[@randomperson4598]

How many times have you fell from a roof?

[@Garciasroofing]

3 times

[@cindymembreno2052]

Aki en Alabama lo hacemos diferente pero se ve bien ese jale

[@Condor1970]

What is better? Overlapping your valley with shingles? or, installing metal valley's like you did in this video?

[@1971SuperLead]

I think it depends on where you live. I live in the high desert of California with a 3 in 12 roof, and I think a metal valley is a bad idea for me because the weather here changes by 30 degrees everyday. Since metal has a different expansion rate than shingles, it causes a lot of friction and therefore...wear. The metal also gets searing hot in the sunshine, causing the shingles nearby to overheat, and then warp and deteriorate. I really mulled over the idea of using metal or not, and ended up just going with a closed cut valley with an inverted 36" wide rolled roofing for a membrane running verticle all the way up the valley, underneath the shingles. I had a lot of synthetic paper under the valley as well. This was my first roofing job ever. I did all the work by myself. We've had a lot of rain with wind over the last couple months and the roof worked flawlessly. I did the closed cut valley in my own special way. Since I had a lot of time on my hands I cut the upper shingles so that the upper top corner butted up against the lower edge of the lower layer of shingles. Doing this was time consuming, but it made the second layer of shingles lay twice as flat inside the valley, giving a lot more protection from dirt, wind and wind driven rain. It will also keep those shingles cooler as they are laying flat and being cooled by the attic air. I really need to make a video showing this, but it's easy to understand once you see how the shingles meet in the valley. It's just a really bad idea to have gaps under the shingles where wind, dirt and water can sneak under and cause all kinds of problems, especially on a low slope roof in a high wind area.

[@MaizeTheGamer_VR]

Overlap, and cut the main is the most secure way to do it no matter where you are, but this way here works for warm and dry places like California.. Hence the name, "California valley"

[@stewartchaulk6631]

your high nailing that nail line (big white line) is where the nails go even if you only nail a quarter inch high from that nail line it will still probably blow threw or the shingles will rip off

[@MrMac5150]

Do you have to use a metal valley flashing, I have seen some roofs with out.

[@Garciasroofing]

it's an option,the other one it's called ...closed cut valley

[@mz5254]

Eric, do you know a trusting honest roofer on the East Coast area in Maryland? I have a small flat roof and have trouble finding a roofer doing small jobs. thank you

[@rusty.spires7931]

YeSir.u.The.Man...

[@JesusRodriguez-ol1bd]

Ouuhhhhh dem bundles be heaby

[@johnd9541]

Shingles need to be installed in a north/south orientation.....always. Running a shingle parallel to a valley is a shortcut used to benefit the shingler, not the homeowner. This is especially true with laminate shingles with tapered top tabs. The tabs are at a 90 degree angle to the water flow minimum, which could direct water away from the valley rather than towards it. Roofing vs shingling 101.

[@woodpeckerroofing93]

This is a sharks tooth pattern in a metal valley for shingle application how can you get better? State Certified Journeyman Roofer/waterproofer & contractor approved. What he did wrong was work into the valley instead of out he cut twice books (pattern) on the rake edge and his tie into the sharks tooth valley. I almost always used this style valley especially with gravey 4/12 pitch, it runs out perfectly with points on the line. This valley is in manufacturers specs, if you were a certified installer you would know that. On steep you cut into valley like he did, because pitch affects pattern. Nail guns work both ways if you use your brain don't have to be lefty to run lefty, just practice video maker. Stay thursty!

[@sherryhillhouse5101]

Very helpful, but How do you finish the valley at the peak? You did not cover that. Thank you

[@eduardomeza540]

i think is more easy and fast if you start with full pcs from the valley. so that way you don't have small pcs close to the valley. pero bueno asi se ase en cali creo.

[@thunderrainroofing5734]

Up here in Canada 🇨🇦 we do it the same way some of us

[@intelin123]

I am not a roofer but to me makes more sense to cover the valley with full shingles.

[@howyoulikethatmess5490]

We usually lace valleys

[@manuelbetancourt8610]

in the valleys we put the shingle plus a starter under the shingle to prevent wather going under...

[@josemagana1201]

your guy left 2 seems on the valley together thats improper

[@flakosarabia]

Jose Magana that's what I'm trying to say but he keeps on saying that's the way they do it in California. Maybe he needs to know that instruction inside each bundle tells how to make a proper installation of shingles

[@aroddlehamthe3rd811]

Jose Magana you caught that to eh? lol good video otherwise.

[@durazodurazo6891]

jose magana are you talking about from the beginning of the video? down from the valley going up?

[@andrewalmaraz3534]

Jose Magana I noticed it as well.

[@MikeHenry3280]

thats what i was just saying..... 2 shingles lined up together pretty much..

[@syby1112]

thanx

[@sharpshooter3137]

Hello I have a question is there a way to call text you

[@Jacno77]

hey eric i've roofed for 3 years now, and i'm in a city where boards are common. We shingle them with laminates but sometimes the nails go through the nail line (thick part)and misses a board, so i have to nail an inch on top of the shingles nail line to bite a board. Now i believe its no big deal, and the person who trained me would just do it like that but my new boss makes us carry a tar gun around so we have to tar under the shingles that don't get hit in the nail line, which i think is over kill. Its got me paranoid that thats how its supposed to be done, which is so time wasteful and useless in my opinion, and this is the type of crew that wants every detail pretty and nice, mean while noones ever stepping one foot on the roof again.

[@Garciasroofing]

I don't think it makes any difference if you apply roof cement or not , because the 2 shingles together hold that nail in place , you supposed to rise of lower your nailing patter to hit the board. Probably your boss has his own ideas , but the code requires to hit the board , also if you have a crooked nail, you supposed to hit it with the hammer to prevent damaged to the shingle on top with it's sharp head. you only supposed to apply roof cement when the nail is between the join of 2 shingles and water will run on top of that nail, or install a piece of starter under the water line. some roofers don't care , but again every roofer works different , in my case , I try to stick to the building codes strictly because I have to pass inspection on 90% of my jobs. the other thing is , if something goes wrong I'm liable for the next 5 years on a shingles roof , 10 years on a tile roof and so on . When you work for a company ...you don't have be responsible for the labor warranty, at the end your day , you get paid and go home . It all depends how you work out the deal , probably your boss had water leaks in the past and don't want them anymore .

[@Jacno77]

okay thanks eric, you da man

[@fpvrcstuff]

Do it basically the same way here in Canada.

[@mastakilla2]

why didnt you start from the valley when stepping?

[@Garciasroofing]

+mastakilla2 it takes longer that way ...the downside is ...your lines end up crooked when you get to the ridge...starting from the valley ..it's the most difficult installation and it takes way longer . So far I have tried every possible way to roofs and this is the best way that works for me . greetings from L.A Eric.

[@ArnoldandSonsExteriors]

Roofing Solutions By Eric Garcia I have to disagree with you on that one. It's way faster to start in the valley and it does not make anything crooked if you know what you're doing...

[@ArnoldandSonsExteriors]

Roofing Solutions By Eric Garcia but all in all... good video

[@chrismosher3297]

if its a big deck too you want to run right handed....cuz what happens if someone else on the crew has to finish it for some unknown reason...and aren't a great left handed nailer.

[@chawooooo1169]

i do old school valley i called it v valley it goes both side

[@cstone2109]

Weave ?

[@salsears3076]

California # 1

[@thunderrainroofing5734]

It’s fast it’s easy and it works but honestly I hate open valley I prefer closed cut valley

[@joevarela5904]

I have never seen that done before. But I havnt roofed in over 20 years.

[@gabrielvasquez2362]

está pesado primo.