Can you Wash a Car without Touching it?

Today I use VERY STRONG HAND CAR WASH CHEMICALS to test a theory about washing a car without touching it. Can We really wash a car without getting cold hands in the winter. Can we really clean alloy wheels without touching them?
I truly believe the message at the end of the video would benefit some of you starting out in the car cleaning industry so make sure you watch till the end.
I try 3 Budget Hand car wash chemicals, Alkaline Wheel Cleaner, Citrus TFR, Citrus Snow Foam
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Chapters:
00:01 - Can you wash a car without touching it?
00:20 - Common Problems you may find in the winter
02:00 - What Car Cleaning Chemicals I'm using today
03:24 - My choice of products
04:23 - Heavy Duty Alkaline Wheel & Tyre Cleaner
06:12 - Does Snow Foam Work?
09:34 - Verdict on touchless Wash
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[@KK_Detailing]

Another fantastic video Dave! I love watching your content. Your just so informative and love the different experimental videos! Keep it up buddy 👍🏽

[@epicautomotivedetailing]

Thank you mate 🙏

[@jonathonbrett-qn1ic]

Great video Dave As a weekend warrior you just want to enjoy cleaning your car for me it’s a relaxing satisfaction once clean. Sometimes the old fashioned ways done properly can be just as good:) But for professional detailers like your self it’s a different kettle of fish. Great video thank you

[@corinnelaking569]

A great video, Dave. I love doing the wash and tidy on my truck during the warmer months, but as you can imagine, here in Canada we're well into the winter filthy car season. I certainly appreciate the no bullshit tone of this video. Over the past few years, I've spent hundreds of dollars on trying "the next big thing" off the shelves and ive become tired of it. The hobby's becoming not fun anymore. During the summer, I deal with a mixture of heavy grit and asphalt mist, as i work next door to an asphalt production facility. If you have any videos of washing that crap off without doing damage to my paint, or removing the protection products by using tar remover every wash, I'd be appreciative! Enjoy your channel, thanks so much!🙂

[@johnweir8936]

Interesting video Dave , I usually do contactless washes on my own cars over the winter to keep them clean and remove road salt and dirt. Sometimes have to wash twice a week so it’s quicker keeps the cars relatively clean , accept it’s not hand wash clean but will be dirty soon after anyway.

[@rugby86]

For me, (loving your content by the way) the timing of this upload came at a funny time for me. I came back home late yesterday afternoon, to my mum who got my Wash Bucket out, with multiple microfibre towels, doing a rinseless wash to her car (our family car since 2004). I had the biggest smile on my face. I went round the otherside, and she even had my pump sprayer as well. I joked with my mum saying, "who tought you how to do this efficiently", which she replied with; "I just watch how you do it when you clean both our cars, plus i didn't have to get the gardon hose out" 😂. It came up to good enough standard, as you mentioned in your video in the second half, being how we like to have our cars cleaned with the products we have. And to be fair, along with your content, along with other fellow detailers on this platform, no doubt I wouldn't have been able to transfer that knowledge with cleaning my own car as a hobbiest/enthusiast over to my mum. So on my behalf, I also say thank you to you as well mate 🙂. P.S my car is actually looking pretty grubby, and even more so now, lol.

[@karl3927]

Thank you for the video Dave. It makes perfect sense to use cheaper industrial strength cleaning chemicals during the winter months as most people who use their cars regularly during the winter just want them to be clean. Unless they're OCD they will not care whether the two bucket method is used with multiple wash mitts and a ph neutral shampoo. I remember a client who had a brand new Aston Martin convertible and he didn't give a stuff about his car being detailed and would quite happily use a cheap hand car wash.

[@epicautomotivedetailing]

Yeah fair play to him. I see so many detailers who are so judgemental and care more about cars yet when it comes to personal heigene they smoke, stink of BO and love on a diet of fried food which is madness 😂

[@Tubeyou329]

He had too much money to give a fuck 😂

[@alistairjones4794]

Another provocative vid Dave well done for stirring it up! Interesting to see how you get on with these products after playing with dilution ratios. Hope Dad is well and belated happy birthday!

[@epicautomotivedetailing]

Thank you Alistair 🙏

[@Lintahlo]

Great experiment! Very informative video as always 😌

[@epicautomotivedetailing]

Thank you

[@sixtysecondsofstephens2386]

Great video, amazing that even with mega strong chemicals on the pre wash it still needs a contact wash.

[@epicautomotivedetailing]

thanks mate, I will tweak dilutions etc over the next few weeks and see how far I can push it.

[@jonnyshielldetailing]

Cracking video, FPV is a great view and good topic pal, very interesting subject

[@epicautomotivedetailing]

Cheers mate

[@cerealkiller4248]

Great timing Dave, I was going to try something similar this weekend, I got stitches in my hand 3 weeks ago and it’s healing slowly, the car is filthy. Halfords Advanced wheel cleaner, AutoBrite APC and Bilt Hamber Auto Foam. I figured it’d be good enough to get the grime off, car dirt is a month old, we travel through a lane passed a few farms 4/5 times a week so this should be interesting……………….😮

[@davivadediablo]

My car was a little chubby i did what you did, tfr, foam and rinse, it went brilliant. Normally i would do a contact wash your idea was great. It needs a polish but that will come soon. Thank you

[@lifeslooker]

makes sense - I just did my own car, not used the most expensive ( EZ is the brand and a little bilt hamber korresol ) and the car came up a treat. I won't profess to be as professional like yourself, but I gotthe car cleaned, inside and out and I know the glass inside was squeaky clean, but I get it when you say, in some instances, just get the car clean and dry. End of. The fancy bits are for when you have a unit/ garage to get the car looking it's absolute best...awesome content as always ( I really do need an AVA tho... )

[@dalydetailz2120]

Horses for courses David. Great honest video as always.

[@epicautomotivedetailing]

Thank you Kevin

[@mrneutral5081]

I quite cleaning my car, I find it therapeutic and love your videos always helpful. What is the foam canon you use? I’ve got a Karcher HD 5/12C pressure washer and my foam canon never works like yours. Also have you released the video with the cheap products you bought from Ali Express, Temu etc?

[@slowsteadysteve6565]

Happy belated birthday mate I turned 58 on Sunday been valeting since 1986 those days of T Cut and no power polisher lol you take care

[@epicautomotivedetailing]

Thank you Steve

[@CL4SSiCS]

Duringthe winter for aime cars, i actually just use my drying towel ( only if the paint has swirls in it ) with some quick detailer and it always gives an amazing finish still.

[@ruttl1]

Dave this video was a Whopper and you are telling the truth. Everyone has different circumstances and they could be using what they need to make a living. The industry is so caught up in this SiO2 and other chemicals but it's not as good as people think. I have a degree in chemistry and everything is diluted with water and other chemicals and put in a bottle. If you have a certain wax it's not true wax since it is in a liquid form, mixed with H2O and then SiO2 is added. Solutions are a solute which is the products and a solvent a liquid and they combined. This is a great video and again you said it depends on the area and the weather and the circumstances. There are too many products on the market Ph balanced soap or snow foam or the perfect wax, the best formulated tire shine, the "ceramic" interior cleaner and the best vegan or real leather cleaner. The industry is creating products just to make money and a lot of young detailer's are wasting money trying to keep up and use the latest and greatest products. Have a great day and I hope you had a Wonderful birthday Dave

[@epicautomotivedetailing]

Thank you mate. Yeah it was nice. Just did the usual yearly Toby carvery 😂. I still think people should carry out a normal wash to an extent but hopefully they won't feel too bad when they understand the reality. I got way too caught up with premium brand nonsense and I regret it now because all it did was turn me into something I wasn't

[@peemick]

Nice! Yes i totally agree that if you detail your car, you can feel like a car janitor. I just cleaned this and its dirty again. Its harder this time of year, the days are short and the salt on the road is thick. You always have to go with what your budget allows, especially if its a hobby. But, ... i have not seen any chemical that can do the same job as a contact wash, it may look clean when its wet, but it will dry dirty again. Some hot water in a bucket of shampoo solves the issue for me, but getting a dry day is another matter :)

[@IfInDoubt..]

This sort of thing is what I do in winter, too cold to wash a car really, but prefer a contact wash when the weather is better.

[@danecowan678]

This whole year has pretty much been a wash-out for us. Thankfully I do multiple different lines of work so I still have a full income but doing the cars is my favourite!

[@epicautomotivedetailing]

Its so grim 🌧️

[@CJ-sw7mr]

I love washing the cars, it’s my escape. But, with a young family I don’t get that much time. So, I’ve been washing the cars without touching for quite a while, especially in the winter. The cars are wax coated, I use BH auto-wheel, blast off with pressure washer. BH touchless snow foam, blast off with pressure washer. Then final rinse with resin filter. Finally, a quick blow off to remove some of the water, especially around the panel gaps. I can wash the car and pack away within an hour, it’s not prefect but because of the coating it’s fairly clean.

[@user-sn8li4nl9m]

Great video, are these products available in the USA?

[@marktrower2267]

Once again another fantastic and informative video Dave Can not believe that you didn't take the leaf's off your car mate lol

[@epicautomotivedetailing]

lol I park it under a tree as we have 3 cars now. really need to sort my audi out next lol

[@marktrower2267]

@@epicautomotivedetailing It needs a good rub down get that flaky clear coat off then a good polish Dave.

[@glennlambert5112]

Just bought Jennichem TFR+WAX. Rinsed worse of dirt of then sprayed it on with hand sprayer and power washed it off. Great results. Better than any of the snow foams I've used. Including Autoglym Polar Blast.

[@s10lucky]

Great vid. I have to confess more recently I have done this on our cars. Too cold and wet to spend a couple of hours cleaning. This method does shift the worst and at least make the car more presentable. It actually works quite well in a car that was cleaned properly a couple of weeks before so you are just shifting light grime/dirt. I sometimes then dry it with my blower. 👍

[@epicautomotivedetailing]

The weather is awful at the moment for me I don't see much point in going for perfection right now

[@supersaabclaire]

Just watch you're not leaving the chemicals on too long if you really care about your car as TFR will strip the paint if too strong and left too long never mind stripping wax.

[@Zoranurai13]

I often go to a self service in wintertime, take a pumpfoamer or sprayer and put a stronger prewash on the car, letting it soak and rinse it off. By the time i get home from the self service it’s gonna be a little dirty regardless. Having a ceramic coating also helps a lot. Once every 3-4 weeks i do a full hand wash

[@rickydfc1977]

Well said Dave, I have seen myself buy cheap shampoo from the likes of Tesco etc but still does a job!

[@petecurran3995]

Spot on Sir! You wouldn't be pleased with me though - both our cars are white..... with green roofs. Today could be the day! Keep up the awesome activity and advice! 👌🏻

[@epicautomotivedetailing]

freezing cold here today so good luck my friend

[@petecurran3995]

@@epicautomotivedetailing a lofty 4° in (sunny) Cheshire. I thank you!

[@jfro5867]

For many years I was totally obsessed with having a detailed car, wasted hours of my life washing, drying, waxing, etc etc. Then about 6 years ago I had an epiphany and thought what the hell am I doing and haven’t washed it once since. It’s now absolutely filthy, it even has green algae down the sides with lots of marks and little scratches. I don’t care. I park it anywhere. I have it regularly serviced and I enjoy it just as much if not more and plan to keep it until it’s scrapped. Set yourselves free people.

[@epicautomotivedetailing]

Love it. It annoys me when I see people get triggered seeing a lambo in a car wash. It's like who cares seriously .Half of the people commenting take no pride in their health or their appearance and it's those types who are the most judgmental to others. Love the comment 🙏

[@pspr33]

Yesssssss!

[@keithcullen4703]

Totally agree with your comment about people’s attitudes changing. Each to their own as they say., One of my neighbours doesn’t clean his car from one year to the next, the other is a bucket, sponge and chamois leather man. Inside I’m screaming at both but they probably look at me and think im off my head with the amount of time I take to clean my car. The products I use are top brands and I’m still looking for the best for each step in the process but I’m also looking to cut down the amount of time I spend achieving a great job. life’s to short and so are the weekends, so 4 hours on my car isn’t happening too many times a year I’ve completely removed how to clean my car with a bucket and sponge from my memory but as winter sets in it’s whatever’s quickest to keep the shine on and the dirt off

[@epicautomotivedetailing]

Thank you for the comment Keith 🙏

[@johnough4893]

13:32 Thank God a professional Detailer has said this at last. Since "discovering" waterless washing this Summer, I've stopped worrying about this chemical and that chemical, or this micro-fibre mitt, or that micro-fibre mitt, I now just use a pump sprayer and sponges; and it works just as well. However! There is still room for the traditional wash. And, weather depending, I will still do that. And use a giant mitt like A yumcars wash pad and a bucket of very soapy water.

[@pigeonpoo1823]

It always amazes me how i dote over the bodywork like a love sick teenager, but i do naff all to the underside which is where all the damage and rust starts. And, for me, that's where these high strength chemicals would work best. If only i could get under there with an ik sprayer

[@danecowan678]

I completely agree with you. I had some Frogchem stuff delivered recently and I use them every day. My customers are valet customers rather than detail customers who want a better job than the car wash but don’t need it to be brand new. These have fitted in perfectly, I even use one of those yellow wash mitts. My customers don’t know any different, nor do they care. So why complicate things? Yes, I do keep nice stuff for my nicer vehicles and more profitable jobs but when you need something that’s fit for purpose and does a great job then I wouldn’t look past Frogchem. Their shampoo in particular is brilliant, a capful does a whole bucket and it’s extremely sudsy. In our line of work it seems to be if you don’t do it the way the internet tells you then you’re doing it wrong, but I couldn’t disagree more. Do what works well for you and, more importantly, your clients.

[@epicautomotivedetailing]

Yes mate really glad you mentioned this. I really feel the hand car wash part of the industry gets a bad rap when it's not really their fault for the methods used when they have limited time and budget to work with

[@danecowan678]

@@epicautomotivedetailing It’s going back to ‘getting what you pay for’ For £20 I can’t expect 3 bucket methods, clay bars and tornadors But for £420 I would. Personally I would much rather buy a car from someone who paid even £20 for a valet once a month at the scratch and shine to have it cleaned, rather than one that hasn’t seen a hoover or screenwash for 3 years. Says a lot about that person, anyone making a bit of an effort to look after their vehicle is better than someone who doesn’t bother at all

[@paulquickmire2379]

Great video Dave, as a weekend warrior I like most average people have limited time at the weekend to clean the car. Yes I do really enjoy the whole process like you and others have shown us but really sometimes it's just about getting the damn thing clean. I've noticed over recent months that more people are posting about which is the ABSOLUTE best product and that others are saying Tfr's and pH neutral snow foam etc etc are a waste of time and or money. At the end of the day my car is driven daily, we only have the one and it's not a £100k supercar but it's my hobby to clean it, it's not a career/job to keep it clean. People need to take a step back and just enjoy what they're doing again. Hope that makes some sense to you.

[@epicautomotivedetailing]

it makes 100% sense mate :)

[@paulquickmire4140]

Subscribed to your channel too Dave, thought I had but realised I hadn't...better late than never 🤣🤣, keep up the great work 👍👍

[@epicautomotivedetailing]

@@paulquickmire4140 cheers Paul, we're just testing new ideas but it's very difficult to get that channel off the ground

[@paulquickmire4140]

Good luck, I've seen a few of your previous videos and liked the style and content. I guess coming up with new ideas would be quite difficult, but you've now got one more supporter 👍👍

[@epicautomotivedetailing]

@@paulquickmire4140 amazing much appreciated. Yeah we actually filmed a fair few videos but because they take ages to edit the plan is to just bring them out as and when

[@ADAMBRADY04]

We have just started using the frog chem range at work, the foaming mousse is brilliant, the frog air fresheners are amazing and we have but haven't used yet the hypochlorite wheel cleaner, not a fan of caustic though

[@reallyisitjustme]

I use Touch-Less (BH) and have had a number of people ask how do I keep my car so clean, the answer is a relatively easy to apply coating. For me, the best I have found is Touch-On (BH) as once applied, you can see the hydro-phobic properties at work, helping to keep the car clean and easy for subsequent Touch-Less (BH) washes. The Touch-On (BH) coating may only last a month of washes, but who cares, it is so easy to apply. I still like to spend the time to give the car a good clean now and again, I enjoy the process, I use the multi-mitt method, 4 for the car, 2 for the wheels, dragging multiple buckets around for me is no fun, and I have been using this method for years. I used to love spending time polishing a car, especially for car shows, my go to was Mer but that is behind me now as my health has deteriorated.

[@ivafatRRRs]

Dave may I please ask ... ? I HAVE THE AVA GO P55.... Do you know if the premium snow foam cannon works on it? I ask. as the Go series I believe use green coloured nozzles/attachments. The other series use blue. I do get confused with AVA accessories. Many thanks in advance Dave B. Great content mate .

[@epicautomotivedetailing]

Good question. I believe it works. I've made the mistake of putting the wrong nozzle on it and got it stuck as I test various accessories for them now and then

[@garrybuntain6873]

Hiya have you tried jennychem snow storm the none caustic ?

[@nickhickson8738]

I always buy Metallic Silver csrs as they're very forgiving. If the car isn't very dirty and gets wet from rain several days a week then i keep on leathering it down with an Autoglym Aqua Dry cloth. The wheels are however washed with a hose fed brush. And ill be 86 next Jan, hopefully!

[@AntEloftheHouseofEl]

Good video Dave, although this is nothing new to those of us who are lovers of Bilt Hamber.

[@epicautomotivedetailing]

Definitely true

[@indetailcarcaresolutions3770]

Dave, it’s like “which is the best computer to use?” You use the best computer for the job. If you have access to a choice that’s great. Yes, I use to run a computing business. Computers are boring, cars are not. I use the best chemical or tool for the job. I have collected various computers over the years. I clean Porsches, Maseratis and Mazdas. I use, from my collection, what I feel does the best job for the vehicle. Simple. The last two weeks I have washed in the rain, yes it’s rained in Sydney recently, but then finished off inside. I offer pick up and drop off so on delivery it was put in the client’s garage and I re-dried it. Simple. Lloyd

[@photosmithy]

Bilt Hamber Touchless

[@MrZimmaframe]

Yes you can clean a car without touching it, Acid based TFR. It will remove all of the tfr and grime off the car but it won't be good foe your paint long term, like most cheap car washes use. (Fades registration plates, and dull clear coat over time) But the best option would be to use Koch Chemie - Green Star (it's a mild alkaline APC). I use it as a prewash 1 part Green Star to 9/10 parts water. It's great for traffic film, mud and road grime. It's alright on mild brake dust, but not the best. As a cheap all purpose that is safe on paint, alloys, chrome and most fabrics it's great to have. I buy it in 10 litre containers every few years and use it on all the family cars. It's great stuff. I apply it with a pump sprayer I got from screwfix or toolstation, can't remember one of the two.

[@epicautomotivedetailing]

Great advice the viewers will find this helpful

[@BionicRusty]

My go-to has become Bilt Hamber Auto-Foam or Touch-Less. In my novice opinion, but a keen weekend warrior detailer since the late 80’s, they’re both incredible for a touchless wash and from the video, appear to be superior. What’s your opinion on the BH? As a side note: I’m often outside in the rain, washing the cars (proper wash 😉). I can’t bear them being dirty. Great video, buddy 👍

[@epicautomotivedetailing]

Love it but haven't featured it as they get enough exposure from other channels but may look into it soon for the channel

[@kwl189]

Like wise. Touchless is brilliant for a free rinse on a cars surface after a good soaking. Removes 95% of dirt off the car and more than enough for a winter wash. Still can't bear the thought of going to the local scratch yard and paying £12 to £15 for someone to put used wash mitts with crud in them on my paint work and ruin whatever protection I've put on the car with their cheap caustic TFR.

[@crz1364]

Hi, what ratio do you dilute your bilt hamber auto foam? Im a proper novice so when i first got it i used it neat lol! It was super effective of course but I soon realised its not very cost effective lol! Iv since been diluting 1Litre BH solution to 4L water. Of course its not as effective anymore but still decent, just wondering if my ratios are about right?

[@BionicRusty]

@@crz1364 There is a calculation to use but it’s very convoluted so I just use about a 20-25% dilution. 20-25% BH to 80-75% water and it works for me. Give it a go and possibly play with adding less to see what works best for you in your gun. Good luck 😉

[@BionicRusty]

@@kwl189 “Scratch yard” 😂🤣 Perfect description. I’ve never used one and never will. Up the resistance ✊ 😂

[@unicorncup]

Could i in the winter months offer a quick wash like in your video for customers including a shampoo and rinse as they just want to drive around in a relatively clean car ?

[@Audittr2108]

I’ve used a similar method sometimes in winter. Bilt Hamber Autofoam and thorough rinse then let the rain do the rest. Gets the salt and other crap off which is the main thing ready for it to get covered in more crap 1st drive. I miss summer!

[@epicautomotivedetailing]

Me too, I really don't appreciate those summer Mon enough lol

[@kwl189]

Problem with Autofoam is that Cationic film that autofoam leaves after its been rinsed off. Touchless is free rinsing though and just as good if not better IMO.

[@karlhulme8014]

At the start of this video I was shaking my head disapprovingly……then I looked at the car you were cleaning and thought….yeah that’s about as much as I’d be prepared to do on something like that. 👍

[@epicautomotivedetailing]

Thank you yeah I knew it would genuinely trigger a few people but the message does make sense as you go through it lol

[@andrewmcglashan5041]

Since ceramic coating, I haven't contact washed my show car in 18 months. No scratches or swirl marks since, and its black😉

[@epicautomotivedetailing]

Nice one 👌

[@Piner5074]

Interesting video, definitely only for those thinking of a quick turn around of multiple jobs at reasonable cost/reward. Horses for courses as they say. Also explains when I did take my car to hand washes pre Covid, why the lacquer started to peel in places. 🤣

[@epicautomotivedetailing]

Lol yeah that car wash I took the Audi to the other day... Omg they were powerful pressure washers

[@Caseyfunnell]

Good old GoPro if your using the hero 11 use the 8:7 aspect ratio then you crop it down more for KZbin the 8:7 is a great thing if you know what your doing with it

[@epicautomotivedetailing]

I need to spend time trying stuff out with this go pro. Still learning

[@HardstyleHaggis]

Foam could be good for a decontamination wash before waxing

[@robrobinson420]

Good idea if water them down bit. I found before if use strong tfr etc it leaves white on car like u had .

[@epicautomotivedetailing]

Yeah it does very true. To be honest this was just a very basic of basic washes so normally this isn't my preference but I'm just hoping the message at the end makes sense to the newcomers who just want to do part time cleans on the odd weekend

[@robrobinson420]

@@epicautomotivedetailing think it gives them a idea yes. Some chemicals are so expensive now im trying to cut down in my own jobs but still have stuff that works .

[@SWR112]

When it takes me half an hour to go over the Car with a mitt. I did a non touch a few years back and after getting all the kit out and next day looking at it thinking it’s not clean said nope.

[@mcentertainmentiom]

the normal folk want a valet not a detail.. loads just want like you say a quick clean..you can sell this version of a car clean a lot more as most people have normal cars. What u done is brill add a quick shampoo wash and its 30 mins work, rifle through loads of cars. £25 per car.... its enough... can add a spray sealant after and charge a few £ more.... for me this type of valeting is the bread and butter as the full vehicle detail is only for certain people and their vehicles.

[@epicautomotivedetailing]

Thank you, I definitely could of gone further with this but thought it would trigger a fair few people so left it at that but I totally understand why drive through hand car washes are the way they are

[@bobbymartin8042]

Nice and sunny here in Australia 😂😂

[@burt2599]

I'm a biker, rain doesn't bother me.. getting busy cause nobody wants to do it...biker boots etc I roll around in the bike stuff just fine. Then I take off the layers once I've done a few cars because I get too warm back to the t-shirt. Tho I've a unit and a office not mobile...

[@burt2599]

What about a large steam exterior unit. I've a twist cw 5 having to make my own twist lance because the mfrs can't recommend the correct replacement part I think I'd have to go to Italy n explain my request. So butchering tormador parts to fit my steam lance.. anyway might just be touchless. I know if it's Iafter fallout remover it's touchless but not pleasant...

[@markkerr7094]

Hi just watched your video is that an after market hose on your Ava washer what’s the fittings I would need Regards mark

[@jonnyshielldetailing]

It comes with the higher models, it's braided which stops it from kinking

[@markkerr7094]

Ok thanks

[@robertgoldie5077]

Dave have you ever been asked about the environmental impact of these cleaning chemicals being washed down storm drains and eventually flowing into the water system? I think Car Wash businesses have laws on how they dispose of their waste water (?) but those rules will not apply for DIY and mobile detailers. What are your thoughts ? Are there any natural eco friendly cleaning solutions?

[@DasArab]

BH Autofoam through a pump sprayer at 4% PIR, pressure wash off, then AG Polar Blast for the bodywork, BH Autowheels and tbh id say your 95% there.

[@johnp6987]

You’re not wrong about the 💩 weather. I’m due to do a wash and shine on a neighbours car but it’s a pointless exercise if I only get one day of dry weather to do it, then the rain undos my hard work the very next day

[@epicautomotivedetailing]

I just checked the weather 😬

[@caseypeploe1273]

At 8:24 Was the paint bubbling on your alloys before that wheel cleaner

[@epicautomotivedetailing]

oh yeah its well old lol

[@antonywalker8837]

Yes David you are right. Sometimes when things don't go to plan. You have to take a step back. Rethink and start again with a fresh pair of eyes. I hope other car valeters don't get to down hearted. At the end of the day (IT'S DARK 😂) No what i mean is YOU DO WHAT YOU HAVE TOO. TO SURVIVE. DAD 👍🍺

[@epicautomotivedetailing]

Cheers Dad

[@ItsMeYourRealDad]

Dave do you not rinse snow foam off from the bottom up? It makes it much easier to see where you have been and ensures every part of the surface gets the dirt blasted off with the pressure washer as opposed to it just getting rinsed off as the water flows down the car leaving dirt behind.

[@epicautomotivedetailing]

Yes I do normally but the point of this video was to do exactly what the average Joe would do in the same situation to get results they may expect

[@jonnyb4271]

Thanks Dave, I’d rather pay £20 for 5 litres of bilt hamber auto foam. For peace of mind and for an extra £5, if people Want to go to a hand car wash let them. What’s the point of being a mobile valeter when you’re using these chemicals 🤷‍♂️

[@epicautomotivedetailing]

It's all about the learning process for some people. I get hundreds of messages from people saying they live in a poor area and they can't offer bigger services so hoping this would work for them

[@clewis5220]

Agreed use BH products. Hand car wash TFR ruined my silver plastic trim!

[@jonnyb4271]

@@epicautomotivedetailing as you’ve said in previous videos you have to target the more well off customer’s in order to to make car valeting worth while from a financial aspect 🤔. There are cheaper option’s available to people that can’t afford us.

[@You-are-right-but]

If we set Bilt Hamber Snowfoam as the bench mark, then every other product could be tested against that. Thats a meaningful test then.

[@epicautomotivedetailing]

Looks like I need to feature built hamber on the channel then lol

[@You-are-right-but]

@@epicautomotivedetailing For sure, it's insanely good. Hope it works for you.

[@skidmarkbill]

Great video Dave,it's definitely time to put the posh stuff away and get the belt and braces chemicals out. The 3 to 4 hour wash days are over,chatting to every tom,dick and harry who passes by while i'm washing my car are gone. Crack open the TRF/Strong pre wash , alkaline snow foam and strong wheel cleaner,shampoo ,rinse and spray and rinse protection,dry and done ! . All the best 😀

[@swan83]

What about drying and limescale?

[@epicautomotivedetailing]

Yeah that can happen with doing this. Again it's not something I'd ever recommend but I'm trying to share the feelings some others may have about car cleaning that may be the complete opposite to how detailers see cars 🙏

[@worldofrandometry6912]

I snow foam my car every time before hand washing and I'm always disappointed at how little dirt the snow foam removes. It's fun to do but I often wonder if I'm just wasting my time.

[@nickhickson8738]

Nothing really removes stuck on dirt other than contact washing. If you're blasting it with a pressure washer and you remove most of it then heaven help your paintwork and delicate rubber parts.

[@PixelVogue]

These are for the people who don't give two hoots about their car or couldn't care what is used on it as long as its cleaned....abit like people who like using Sainsburys carpark washes!

[@epicautomotivedetailing]

Yes 100% correct. Those people still value their cars but just in a different way to anyone who's in this industry. But if their values of their own cars keeps the car wash industry going which ultimately can benefit detailers by giving them the highest paying clients so it's a good thing!

[@Tubeyou329]

Can someone recommend me a good wheel cleaner for gloss black alloys which get cleaned regularly (once to twice a week) thanks

[@jamesbartlett5005]

Garage therapy wheel shampoo or their Decon shampoo which can be used in a Sprayer or bucket. All their stuff is awesome to be fair

[@Tubeyou329]

@@jamesbartlett5005 thanks mate I’ll check it out.

[@jonnyshielldetailing]

The brushes you use are as important over the chemicals, stay away from bilberry by valet Pro and acid, you can use as suggested GT WHEEL SHAMPOO but pre washing is key with an Alkaline cleaner or citrus pre wash

[@KiloRomeoOscar]

The dreaded time of year when the road salt gets spread. I have to agree the snobbery is rife in the detailing scene, if you dont use product x, y or z you're some kind of pillock or hack. I think we have all been that person at some point jumping on the band wagon, but the longer you do this you realise thats a foolish perspective to have. If a person is happy and getting results from something that isnt "scene" brands good on them, or maybe they take it to a hand car wash (those people work hard) and they are satisfied, good on them. Maybe we dont all agree on certain things or like certain brands or methods but thats cool, what a wonderful thing personal preference and choice is, but we dont need to disrespect someone's choice. The fact is we are very much in the minority when it comes to vehicle exterior and interior maintenance 98% of car owners dont really give a monkeys as long as its shiny and smells nice.

[@knoparenSOC1]

👍👍👍👍

[@frankmetcalfe9391]

I use Knee Pads

[@stuartkennedy4202]

As a Detailer of 20 years this video horrifies me lol .

[@epicautomotivedetailing]

Why? Detailers need to respect that other people just don't value cars in the same way. Its what keeps them in business 👌

[@stuartkennedy4202]

​@@epicautomotivedetailing I’m not saying anything about how anyone cleans their car but I find it strange that a Detailer would make a video that use chemicals that would strip any protection in the winter months .

[@nickhickson8738]

Decades ago my cousin used to wash his white Riley Elf every week with a bucket of hot Tide laundry detergent in water. Needless to say it soon lost its gloss coat and all those BMC seamed cars soon rusted as well. Those were the days. Dear cousin Ian.

[@nickhickson8738]

As an Industrial Analytical Chemist before retirement, I find the use of allegedly highly alkakine or acidic detailing materials on car paint or tyres abhorrent.

[@epicautomotivedetailing]

you don't get it do you. At what point was there ever any protective layers on my old S max??? people who don't care about protecting their cars wouldn't bother worrying . I'm not trying to educate people i'm trying to raise awareness to the other detailers that not everyone gives a flying f""" and that's totally ok 🙏🙏@@stuartkennedy4202

[@j-on-osrs-2k7]

ive got literally 30 seconds in before i need to do this comment.... 16 years.... of doing this.... bro, you look younger than me wtf... theres no way your older than me, i aint havin it

[@epicautomotivedetailing]

I turned 38 yesterday 🙏🎂

[@mariah.garridor.6997]

​@@epicautomotivedetailingHappy birthday!!! 🎉🎂🎈🎁

[@carlmorton2556]

Hi Dave get yourself a hot wash you will never get a good contactless wash with cold water

[@epicautomotivedetailing]

Would love one. Next year I'll be trying the hot pressure washer from Hyundai hopefully

[@carlmorton2556]

Hi Dave I worked for a pressure jetting company as foreman technician,so have worked on a lot of them,was going to go secondhand at one point but after deliberating the maintenance costs I went for a Karcher 6/12 at £1800 great machine with scale protect for the heating coil,and you can jet on full power with detergent,not cheap but spares readily available for it so future proof,be careful of the Chinese washers as they don’t have a spares backup,they produce these cheap hot washers and then discontinue after a short while. My mate picked up a Clarke 100 hot wash for £70 100 bar unit ,I thought easy enough to get it right I was so wrong no parts available for it anywhere ,thought it was built in Italy like most of the Clarke stuff turns out it was Chinese ,but with a bit of reverse engineering and a few fittings off eBay it’s up and running now 1400 psi and 110 degrees if needed ,he’s over the moon with it now and it stands him in at £170 but it would have been a scrapper if I didn’t know how to do it so a cheap washer do your research as cheap can be expensive in the long run,get a known make and enquire about spares availability in a year or so when your out of warranty ,a lot of the jet wash repair shops wen with covid and people are struggling to get them fixed,I’m semiretired now but I could be at it all week if I wanted that’s why there are so many washers on eBay and marketplace for spares or repair hope this helps I like your unit that’s what I need but they are so expensive anyway good luck with the valeting and getting a good hotwash

[@epicautomotivedetailing]

@@carlmorton2556 I had karcher 6/13 was so good

[@alexdodd6768]

Don’t use that wheel cleaner on carbon ceramic brakes either

[@You-are-right-but]

🎉TOP TIP: Snowfoam in two light layers inatead of one heavy layer. The second layer goes on just as the first soaks in and starts to slide off. This way you get a better soak time and better cleaning

[@elsunmusic3130]

No, no you can’t.

[@epicautomotivedetailing]

I never said you could

[@alekscircel2292]

First view ! yaay

[@epicautomotivedetailing]

hello

[@jasonvaughan5128]

Only an idiot washes the car if it’s raining. What is the point. It’ll be exactly the same in two days. So pointless. It’s dirty. Who cares. Ok, I do wash my car but during autumn/winter months I wash it once a month. Two days later. It’s the same. Why bother.