HOW TO WIN LANES WITH ITEMIZATION - ROAD TO RANK 1

[@johnprocrastinator]

Great video! Not gonna get bored with Ori content any time soon

[@TheRealAntonSensei]

I am really impressed by the way you can play this game and talk in such a high tempo without saying useless pieces of information. Everything was on point :O God job!

[@validus1684]

The road to WANK 1 hahahahahahaha I love it. Great video! Watched this one because of the recent itemization talk we had in our last session. Question: why merc treads? Is it a combination of their CC and syndra damage?

[@ShokLeague]

Yep Syndra is one of the mids that mercs is pretty much a must buy against because movespeed MR and tenacity are all very good against her. Other mids that I almost always buy mercs against are Zoe, Liss, Lux, Neeko, Annie, TF (if no cleanse), ahri/lb sometimes (depends if they have ganking jg and what champ I'm playing). Sometimes you still buy mercs if the enemy JG has a lot of CC + it's an AP mid e.g. Sylas Sejuani

[@amirreza5154]

great explanation on 5v5 match up. very useful to get a mindset about comps

[@Yese7]

Thanks for all the uploads Shok, really inspirational and helpful insights

[@soupednym]

Hey, i'm a noob at almost everything except for mechanics even after playing for 10+ years, lol. I'm curious about minion dematerializer. 1. @2:29 I saw you you use it on a cannon under tower (presumably because it was going to be very difficult to last hit?) 2. @2:40 You used it right after on a ranged creep. Was this just to increase dmg on backline to oneshot it, or was it to relieve pressure from being pushed in? 3. @3:09 You use it on a melee creep. (Also maybe a hard to last hit under tower situation?) Or do you just like to get a bit more damage on all creep types for Orianna? And you just spread it out evenly like that, preferably using it to last hit ones that are hard/impossible because of tower damage?

[@ShokLeague]

So there's a lot of different uses for minion demat, you can either use 1 on each creep like I did here just to generally increase your push/efficiency on the wave. You can also use 3 on the ranged creeps which is sometimes the difference between your ability 1 shotting them and leaving them on 1 hp (Ahri Q being an example) Or you can use demats exclusively on cannons post 6 to quickly get rid of the cannon so that you can roam in river. Can use it to help you base as well if you're having trouble resetting (just demat a cannon and fast shove the wave) And finally there are some champs that split 2/1 (melee/ranged) just to increase overall waveclear and not worry too much about the cannon waves. So ye in this game I just wanted overall push but there are lots of uses.

[@soupednym]

@@ShokLeague Cool, thank you!

[@sabod7982]

this one was rly instructive

[@ciclonable]

I am a simple gamer. Shok uploads, I watch. Right now I am struggling with adapting with Orianna itemization, I often run into the problem of lacking dmg trying to pick anti tanks or anti assassins' builds due the lack of front lanes on my games lately. I am also struggling building deathcap rabadon's third, since its is so expensive (I push it to fourth item, which by the time I get it, I been lacking dmg for too long into the game). So my two questions are, even tho orianna is my atm my preferred blind pick, 1- Should I opt for another champion if i end up with a zero front lane team? example enchanter support and yone top Vs a tanky enemy composition? or dodge it?. 2- Should me as Orianna, stop trying to fill the gaps on my team when it comes to anti-heal/ Pen and try to build maximum output dmg for the majority of my games?

[@ShokLeague]

imo Ori is still fine even when you don't have a front line. Generally yeah don't go anti-heal. You can just go Liandry > Seraphs > Rabadons if you want a cookie cutter strong damage build that works in 90% of cases

[@ciclonable]

@@ShokLeague Thank you, i will avoid wasting gold on morello's!

[@drc8558]

Hey mr shok could you make more cassio or lissandra videos? I’ve been taking them into my champ pool recently and would be lovely to get some top tier info from your content :)

[@jarrod2351]

How come you didn't sell doran's ring for Liandry's before TPing to the fight bot? I usually sell it if it will get me my mythic but I'm wondering now if that's a mistake. Thank you for the great vid!

[@ShokLeague]

Nah I probably should've sold it, ideally you keep your D ring but I think here it's not worth

[@TheBearShare]

Nice simple edits. Really good video. Love your content. 🎉 Edit: First!

[@natetg4310]

I just started learning Ori and I saw that you dematted 1 melee and 2 ranged. Is it for the waveclear on waves w/out cannon?

[@ShokLeague]

Yeah you don't need to take it but it can be nice to just get slightly more push than your opponent does

[@dumpsterplayer2700]

I was doing some practice tool maths and and it's crazy how much a single 450 null cloak reduces your damage if you go sorc Ludens shadow; it goes from being true damage to 20pc reduction,; for 450 gold. The good news is that most people don't buy a casual null; Void staff if they have like 55mr or less does more than shadow;

[@ShokLeague]

Yep MR is broken :(

[@DIZZYLM]

shok i have a question did u think tear is not core item on ori? and can skip from the build some games??

[@ShokLeague]

You can skip it if you like

[@davidpavel5017]

At 15:16 wouldnt it have been worth to sell dorans for mythic? I usually sell dorans if it means i can get my first item, especially with strong items like liandrys. Am i making a mistake when i do this?

[@ShokLeague]

Nah I should've sold it

[@davidpavel5017]

@@ShokLeague really apreciate you replying to all my questions! I got to d2 after years of being a gold hardstuck because of your videos. You're a treasure Shok!

[@aryados1520]

The man, the goat!

[@JesusZeuDog]

Is there a reason you don't max W ? I personnally like to put 3 points in Q into max w, I know a lot of Orianna straight up max w aswell

[@ShokLeague]

Prefer the cheap waveclear of q max

[@PJ_20_24]

​@@ShokLeague what about into meele champs? would 3 q into w max or out right w max be a possibility?

[@ShokLeague]

Yeah it's pretty good I think

[@benipppp89]

Having a question. Mostly Ori vs Syndra will trade very often in early laning phase, will it be better on trading that starting with corrupting potion instead of d ring?

[@ShokLeague]

I think after the dorans ring changes it's not really worth anymore :/

[@benipppp89]

Yea, make sense, thanks for the reply!@@ShokLeague

[@kallew34]

Love the ori content

[@Valentine_Mehin]

If only we had as many Ryze games as we getting Ori games 😔

[@cetofox]

I get so tilted whenever people say Void Staff is actually a good item, its so shit. Grudge gives so much Ability Haste and a Slow (Basically Rylais + Void Staff), Black Cleaver gives HP and a lot of Haste too.

[@chiidybang370]

Yeah or lord doms...gives you pen+up to 22% more dmg.

[@cetofox]

@@chiidybang370 The other flat Armor Pen Items all have some bonus rather than only having AD and Armor Penetration which would be the equivalent to Void Staff. You can get free Healing Reduction, Ability Haste, Slowing Abilities and Crit Strike Chance just by being an AD Champ.

[@dumpsterplayer2700]

void is decent in the situation its built for, its build up is terrible and obv %pen mr scales. A 10 AH would be nice

[@kawaiinekoarigato]

SECOND! Daddy give me a prize!!! meow ❤

[@ShokLeague]

if ur not first ur last sorry bro just the way it goes tough crowd around here

[@chiidybang370]

Mid meta is kinda boring atm. If you want to win just pick ori or syndra. Its like these 2 are S+ tier and the next best champ is B tier. And riot doesnt care. Next patch they get slight buffs with the AA buffs riot does for mages. Overall i like both champs, especially orianna, but they need nerfs. These champs combined have 85% pick/ban master+ with 52% wr.