How "Unbeatable" is Notorious B.I.G?

[@TetsuShima]

I love the fact that the Passione Gang literally unleashed an extremely dangerous kraken into the ocean and didn't give a sh*t about it. Pure mafia style 🤣🤣🤣

[@pillfllip8936]

Giorno: Should we do something about that? Everone: BAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA

[@clanku2.010]

Well, kt isn't exactly the gang's fault, if they didn't unleash him in the ocean he would have just went on killing people on land once the plane crashed, so... Besides, my headcanon is that Giorno found a way to defeat it with GER later on (resetting him everytime he grows) and that's the reason why B.I.G. didn't show up during Made In Heaven's acceleration lol.

[@pillfllip8936]

@@clanku2.010 W headcanon

[@asonofliberty3662]

@@clanku2.010why would it show up then?

[@mikhailabraham421]

⁠@@asonofliberty3662when MIH did the universe reset everything sped up drastically. In theory B.I.G would either be seen towering over the ocean during the reset OR bee seen zipping around the ocean during the reset.

[@KingMordred]

Giorno: "Me and my friends sent an unstoppable force of destruction into a spiral of eternal suffering!" Joseph: "Nice! That brings me back beautiful memories of my youth, kid. By the way, did you guys also make sure he ended up in a place where he couldn't hurt anyone again?" Giorno: "..."

[@MrH4nky]

Not bad, son

[@JonathanRiverafrickinnice555]

To be fair, Giorno wasn't there for the second half

[@MrH4nky]

@@JonathanRiverafrickinnice555 That's what the joke is about.

[@alucardsantradideus267]

Giorno: Stay away from the ocean Joseph: The ocean? THE ENTIRE OCEAN?!

[@FFKonoko]

​@@MrH4nkyno, the joke is about the fact they left it killing nearby boats

[@Chowder_T]

I think Petshop and White Album might be able to take on B.I.G. Freezing things removes energy from an area so their powers wouldn't set off the energy absorption.

[@Zetact_]

Sky High would also fit into that criteria. It even has another layer of disconnection in that the energy the Stand is outputting wouldn't be directing towards B.I.G. but would instead be pointing to the rods.

[@ThefifthBishopofGord]

Yes but here is the thing that just makes not have those things as target unless they can and are thrown.

[@wolfielagg]

​@@ThefifthBishopofGord What?

[@joseguadalupemartineztorre9702]

Yellow Temperance would be the perfect reverse foil to Notorious.

[@LoganNickelson-df5il]

There also could be another broken about B.I.G. It could have the ability spilt its mind creating a copy of B.I.G and theory creat a have hive mind of B.I.G. It would be biggest threat

[@BetterCaulipowerSall-vq9yn]

Diavolo: What's your stand? Carne: No clue. Diavolo: lmao hired

[@Kei_Si]

🤣

[@Shellshock39]

I love how its non-copyright name is Notorious Chase. This stand is the living embodiment of the "Chase" by Batta.

[@igee1605]

I chase you

[@welshlout3400]

All I do is chase you And I will chase you Yes I can chase you Nowhere you can hide So run and run, I'll chase you

[@zacglover3345]

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[@zacglover3345]

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[@zacglover3345]

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[@TetsuShima]

Jokes aside, it's admirable that Carne literaly allowed himself to be killed just so his Stand would have a chance of pleasing Diavolo's wishes. It's sad that someone so incredibly loyal would choose to join the darkness.

[@hermitcard4494]

Was he? Or maybe he was Notorious last victim? Maybe the thing goes into a rampage and takes its last victim as its user just to rest.

[@pillfllip8936]

@@hermitcard4494 I choose to believe Carne is just abnormally loyal

[@hermitcard4494]

@@pillfllip8936 the thing is, besides walking, he did NOT do any action nor reaction, as if he was just a controlled corpse(feeded with Notorious energy) with the sole purpose to be its resting bed until it needs to move to its next target. Sounds like an homage to 80s horror creatures like The Thing and others.

[@hermitcard4494]

@@pillfllip8936 PS: "Carne" in Spanish(and I guess Italian too, since both are similar) means "meat" or "flesh" (doesn't specify alive or dead, at least in Spanish). So that's I why have that interpretation(Spanish speaker). Maybe some people knew what he was, just a walking meat thing, and that's why they simply named him just "Meat"(Carne). Unless the Manga says he was fully conscientious and able to make choices...

[@addison_v_ertisement1678]

I don't think he killed himself on purpose. He could have been making a head on assault, or have just been dumb, because we saw him call out BIG right before getting killed, so he can call it out without dying.

[@kanhelder3897]

About broken OP stands that don't get enough credit, I would like to see an episode about cheap trick. He was beaten only because of Ghost Girl's Alley, if it wasn't for this specific place, Rohan would be most likely dead, even tho he has one of the most OP stands. I believe that if DIO knew about this stand, he could use it to kill all of the crusaders.

[@l0sts0ul89]

What about Sheer Heart Attack/Bites The Dust Nvm 💀

[@elephystry]

Whitesnake would be a hard counter though. Pucci could just eject Cheap Trick’s disc, AND then have an extra weapon to throw at Jolyne and her party.

[@tengenjoestar1991]

Nah it would eject his own disc. Rohan wantet to write something in cheap trick but it diddnt work ​@@elephystry

[@VGamingJunkieVT]

@@elephystry Would doing that lapse the host into a coma, though? Cheap Trick is treated as if it was the user’s own stand, along with damage. The spirit hands could harmlessly grab it, but could Whitesnake?

[@Xenotango364]

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[@snowboundwhale6860]

Notorious B.I.G is they type that you need either a highly specific counter or something massively overtuned like existence erasure to be able to deal with it. It's like Yellow Temperance, at least in the same way Cream and The Hand are similar for both deleting things they touch, or how Killer Queen and Boku no Rhythm wo Kiitekure both have the ability to make explosives but with small yet significant differences in how they go about that. Both BIG and YT are mostly indestructible amorphous masses that consume whatever they touch, but the difference is YT had a living user to provide intelligence and direction. Funnily enough, the user was also considered YT's weakness in that fight since the stand itself was something Jotaro had no way of effectively combating. BIG's user is already dead and it runs on autopilot, so it's pretty much a question of "could they beat Yellow Temperance _without_ targeting Rubber Soul?" and if the answer's no then they can't "win" here either, at least in terms of destroying the stand; it's just a question of outwitting it to escape.

[@Crabgar]

I wonder what the interaction between B.I.G. and WOU is. Obviously it's pursuing Tooru or the Stand and would be affected by calamity, but what sort of calamity would be enough to actually stop it? Like at some point, does calamity just open a hole to the center of the earth or shoot it into space?

[@epicdude8742]

I'd imagine either some speed-based distraction to keep BIG occupied long enough for WOU to escape (not that WOU is very fast in the first place), or something akin to Spice Girl's metal pole comes in and slowly dismantles BIG

[@addison_v_ertisement1678]

That highly depends on how WOU can cause certain things to happen. Remember, it can't do stuff like summon a black hole out of nowhere or cause wood to explode; the bad luck it uses has to be grounded within physics, as it doesn't really violate basic physics until someone reaches the point of calamity (poor guy having half his body taken off just by slightly bumping a table as an example. I'm pretty sure that violates physics.) The calamity has to realistically happen up to that point. Of course, I only know this from videos explaining the stand, so I only know as much as those people, so I could easily be wrong.

[@addison_v_ertisement1678]

​@@epicdude8742I think WOU could cause a car crash in order to distract BIG, but I don't quite know if it can cause calamity to fall on other people in order to harm its actual target, as I haven't read Part 8.

[@Crabgar]

​@@addison_v_ertisement1678 There was a scene in Jojolion where a bystander gets his neck snapped by Josuke just touching him, but that was implied to have happened because of the contact. I'm unsure if the calamity would be "smart" enough to distract BIG, we only ever saw it do damage. Of course, outside of a closed space, BIG has the incredibly easy counter of "just stand still" but that only gets it off of you and doesn't really solbe the issue.

[@addison_v_ertisement1678]

@@Crabgar I don't know if I'm having a brain fart or something, but I don't know how someone getting their neck snapped just by touching Josuke relates to what I said. Please elaborate, because I lack critical thinking skills.

[@kodoqbesar4301]

I have a question. Let's say La Squadra still decided to search for Diavolo's identity so Diavolo sends Carne to take care of them. Can Notorious Big solo La Squadra? Lets split this into 2 rounds, 1v1 and Notorious Big vs all of them at the same time

[@alberozuko]

Personally, i think ghiaccio counters BIG pretty hard; low temperature = reduciton of energy, so he could easily eliminate big's source of power and he can probably freeze it to death. Remember: nothing can live at gently Weeps Absolute Zero temperatures, specially a being that requires external energy to survive. That's my take, at least.

[@notorious015]

they would mostly likely have to find a way trap notorious big if not they are fucked

[@steelballrunner636]

La Squadra's best bet is probably to just have Ghiaccio freeze it. It may not kill Notorious B.I.G, but if Ghiaccio stays there while the other members escape, most of them will survive.

[@mars7304]

I have a hard time imagining that Illuso couldn't also take care of BIG in a mirror world. If all BIG can do is absorb energy, trapping it may be the best bet.

[@Slayerthecrow]

Considering that Rizzoto can manipulate iron, if Notorious B.I.G. Absorbs something made out of iron, could we say he can control him?

[@Connor_Kirkpatrick]

Its weakness is its inability to pass through solid objects. Toss a moving object into a box, shut the lid, and seal it shut. In theory, you don’t even need a stand to be able to deal with it if you know what you’re getting into. This is an easy task for the SCP foundation. Euclid or maybe low Keter at best.

[@smgperri]

Damn. When you put it that way...

[@Skeleton-73]

true because I doubt it would eat through something that isn't moving. even if it does, they could just cryogenically freeze it and mark it as safe 💀

[@phiexi]

Yet another thing to throw to SCP 682

[@dyslegein]

So get KraftWerk and cram BIG in jar?

[@kingtiger5040]

A rare case of an infamous stand who's master is one of the most forgettable users.

[@SolomonPleasent]

We all know that Superfly is lowkey pretty strong, but I think a video on it is still warranted.

[@lancebradshaw4829]

Superfly might work as a way of containing Notorious B.I.G., actually.

[@ciranopunalesvigliarolo3788]

@@lancebradshaw4829 it may be a way of actually killing it, since notorious would try to attack anything that's moving it would eventually try to leave the tower, thus becoming a part of it.

[@lloydalvarez2819]

Someone help me fact check this idea: I assume Notorious B.I.G. eats things that move, but you can still touch it, right? Kira can position himself to a spot where his hands come into contact with BIG while it touches something fast, like Sheer Heart Attack or a bubble from Stray La Creatura. That or turn a coin into a bomb and let BIG catch it and transfer the boom? I think it would have to be so precise that his thumb moves slower than the momentum of the coin getting touched. Also if the explosion is controlled, like maybe the fizzle type of explosion that Kira did with one of his "girlfriends", maybe that's enough of a controlled explosion to kill BIG?

[@ruansasa289]

Why tf did you call stray cat "La creatura" 💀 hilarious though

[@KingMordred]

I honestly wish Trish had more badass fight scenes like the one against the Notorious B.I.G. I think Araki should have made her a fighter since the duels against Risotto's gang.

[@rafaelbrites3607]

I like to say that araki was starting to learn How to write female caracthers .Trish was the firt female stand user that got some respect, starting as a Denzel in distress and later she became one of the bros.

[@KingMordred]

​@@rafaelbrites3607 Araki already made awesome female characters since the beginning of JoJos. Erina and Poco's sister, despite being traditional women of their time, had a firm and indomitable character. Lisa Lisa proved to be an awesome master and teacher, being defeated only because Kars cheated. Mariah was a pretty iconic femme fatale and one of Part 3's most memorable antagonists. Yukako and Aya were pretty fascinating and entertaining characters. Araki ALWAYS knew how to write women

[@rafaelbrites3607]

@@KingMordred but i mean giving her more scream time and giving then more badass moments.

[@KingMordred]

​​@@rafaelbrites3607 The editor simply didn't let Araki give more protagonism to the female characters because of the manga's demographic. He clearly knew how to give them more importance, but simply didn't have the chance. In fact, Araki at first planned to make Giorno a woman

[@rafaelbrites3607]

@@KingMordred really? That's explains his design.

[@TheActualChilledGuy]

Notorious B.I.G is actually beatable by a method used in the previous season. This method was used by Rohan Kishibe to beat Cheap Trick, i.e. going to Reimi's street and someone becoming a scape goat and turning around to face the hands. Due to it's ability it might turn around and will also get dragged away by the hands or even simpler just leave it there and quietly escape. It will forever just wander around that place never to find an escape.

[@incarnation_of_immortality3422]

But… B.I.G is blind, that thing needs you to turn around & see what was behind you.

[@tritrieuminh8043]

theory while yes , it would wander there forever ... but you forget that BIG is Blind , it only tracking Movement and if you Guide B.I.G in the city full of cars .... it would chasing every cars on the street and growth to be as big as Godzilla ...That worth end lv threat

[@Ostr0]

Exactly ​@@incarnation_of_immortality3422

[@mr.godlust7489]

​@@incarnation_of_immortality3422lol you absolutely right

[@Steckdose_]

Honestly my first thought when seeing this Video was. "Damn Vanilla Ice really is just the perfect counter against B.I.G. The only Weakness Vanilla Ice has in his defense is nonexistent because B.I.G. would just charge right into it and get yoinked out of existence"

[@jamesba6438]

Crazy Diamond can revert the flow of energy, from what i can recall against Bad company, reversing explosives and redirecting them back at the source. I wonder if Crazy Diamond could make it so all the energy fed on by BIG would return to where it was before, which would casue a lot of pandemonium for sure, but could reduce the threat of BIG. Would need held form The hand afterwards to really get rid of it but i think the two could successfully counter it myself

[@Ostr0]

The Hand can win

[@customcard_156]

Crazy Diamond Requiem maybe can do from far range if Josuke did one

[@Lor_Lor]

I feel like Diver Down is underlooked, if it can reach into bodies and move stuff, couldnt it be able to, for example, tak out your heart without even using force? And if it can stuff objects into hard surfaces, would he be able to leave somone stuck inside rhe ground conoleatly?

[@Ostr0]

Yeah he could probably clip it into the ground but not kill it

[@alexielouisl.8462]

Something funny though about matchups is against Wonder Of U, because of course WOU would win theres no debate, however pin an endlessly pursuing stand that cannot die against one that punishes pursuit and honestly the effect of WOU will wreck the world apart because of big's pursuit.

[@phiexi]

Unstoppable Force vs Immovable Object

[@il3fortunato664]

"Notorious B.I.G. is unique due to it's ability to activate after the user deceased" Sports Maxx and Limp Bisquit: am I a joke to you?

[@camiheartyt]

Thinking about White Snake's ability to take a Stand (and memories). . . what if White Snake used that ability *on* a Stand like BIG or Silver Chariot Requiem? Does the Stand without a user just become a disk?

[@hermitcard4494]

Maybe they turn into SD disks. Jokes aside, good question.

[@adamsosna7263]

I mean the only problem with that is in the case of Chariot Requiem it would instantly lobotomise the user

[@silvamlon]

the power of whitesnake isnt to turn stands into disks, its to turn the characteristics of any entity into disks, wether its memories, stands, eyesight, or anything really whitesnake problably couldnt turn notorious big into a disk, since when carne died, notorious big stopped being a characteristic of carne, and turned into its own entity, though it could problably take away some of notorious big's characteristics, like its ability to detect movement, though this is just a theory

[@DurpenHeimer]

I was thinking that pucci could insert a disk that gives BIG new/meaningless directions

[@MM-xn6tn]

Actually, Kira would have a decent chance of destroying Notorious BIG. By releasing Sheer Heart Attack, Notorious would be spending all its time trying to destroy another indestructible Stand; this would allow Kira to slowly sneak up to Notorious and use Killer Queen to potentially atomize it with it's primary bomb. The next best option would probably be to drag it into the the mirror world with Illuso's Man in the Mirror, if only to neutralize it from attacking anything else. Alternatively, either Pet Shop's Horus or Ghiaccio's White Album could potentially do intense damage to Notorious. When Trish unlocked Spice Girl, the Stand was able to damage BIG by ramming an ordinary pole into it at a slower speed than it was moving at, destroying the fragment. With Gently Weeps, Ghiaccio can slow down molecules to the point of freezing the air itself. Trapping Notorious in ice could probably damage it just from making contact.

[@Ostr0]

Yes

[@samuelwilliams663]

Can't D4C summon another B.I.G from a parallel world and have them come into contact with each other? Would that actually work in destroying, not just one, but TWO B.I.Gs?

[@Gojo13201]

As far as I know there are no exceptions to D4C so it'd probably die

[@bruhmann8426]

How will d4c bring notorious BIG to the other universe? He can't really pick it up and move it or hell be absorbed

[@lovetrain5025]

@@bruhmann8426if Valentine can disappear to another reality due to water being spilt on him, or falling into his own blood, I’m sure any large body of water could send B.I.G to another universe

[@ArmiaKhairy]

It needs to be an animated object , I.e Alive, but according to giorno, it's not.

[@theelementalgamer5910]

@@ArmiaKhairy Well, Giorno wasn't checking his arm, just the plane.

[@games-wz7sz]

We see a peice of it get destroyed by spice girl though. The idea being that something slow yet strong could break it. Mista kiled Carne and B.I.G never kills mista. Its always possible that it had an ability that could revive its user after killing the user's killer.

[@dubstepsoundwave-yo8te]

Oh damn… that’s smart, though from what you can see when he did activate his stand (moments from dying) it does have a physical appearance like an mix between a long range and close range stand, so what if it had the ‘autopilot’ ability as a secondary effect, and that humanoid form of B.I.G was the main stand?

[@bakasakuta]

Stands that could (possibly) beat BIG: Cream The hand (if Okuyasu wasn’t dumb) Soft and wet D4C Wonder of u (at least a draw) Tusk act 4 would be the most interesting, because since it’s infinite energy would it just grow infinitely? If the infinite spin does work and somehow does not get absorbed, it could kill BIG. All of this assuming Johnny has enough time to ride his horse to use it before BIG gets to him ofc

[@Kei_Si]

Star Plat and The World and King Crimson could be good against it, but i think not beating it, but get away or avoid it easily since they can make 0 movements, And honourable mention is Green Grass of home But Wouldn't Killer Queen good too with Bites the Dust?

[@hermitcard4494]

Future video: what stands could defeat Notorious B.I.G? My takes. Avdol not, this thing seems to feed also from heat(machines, or oil?). The ice skating dude(Golden Wind), Fugo's virulent stand, The Dr with the fungus stand. The green baby(Notorious would become smaller and smaller as he tries to get slower, therefore increasing the distance). And memes apart, seriously: how could have Notorious fought Made in Heaven? Could it have eaten it?

[@bogboyburger2592]

Honorable mentions/stupid ideas The sun(user would probably have to be in a bunker) Sethan(could possibly reduce it down to whatever the stand equivalent of a fetus or is) Super fly(as ass as this stand is,would it hypothetically be able to trap it within the tower) Bohemian Rhapsody(get a character or item from fiction to erase or kill it) Wonder of U(Calamity somehow finds a way to get rid of it) Chariot Requiem(I know this is kinda cheating, but if the stand were to have a soul, could it possibly have its soul transferred to another body/ stand body

[@hermitcard4494]

@@bogboyburger2592 not stupid, bizarre ideas 🤣👍

[@Ostr0]

​@@bogboyburger2592 Sethan might not work if it's considered a animated object

[@pkmntrainerred4247]

Ice dude is Ghiacchio, Stand is White Album

[@fireflyer97]

The photo stand of Kira's father could possibly trap BIG. The stand doesn't make contact and traps the enemy in a separate chunk of "space."

[@mercury6025]

Literally my favorite stand

[@mars7304]

Dio would annihilate BIG. Seriously. That vampire cold affect is absolutely slept on. He cant absorb a LACK of energy, and that is what cold is. Ghiaccio's stand literally freezing anything that touches it also makes him a top contender. I know these two wouldnt have ever fought BIG, but they'd win 10 times out of 10.

[@addison_v_ertisement1678]

Oh, you're talking about Phantom Blood Dio. I thought you were talking about part 3 Dio, who doesn't have his normal vampire powers.

[@mars7304]

​@@addison_v_ertisement1678 is there some source material for part 3 dio not being able to flash freeze? I know he didn't do it in part 3, but that seems like a choice not a mechanic.

[@addison_v_ertisement1678]

@@mars7304 Well, it being useful in certain situations, and him not doing it. Dio himself also states that Jonathan's body is suppressing his vampire powers.

[@steelasura]

Stand powers don't work on big, cold from a stand wouldn't do anything, also dio couldn't hit a stand, the world can, but then he feeds on that energy right?

[@mars7304]

​@steelasura the effects of Ghiaccios stand just make it cold, BIG would absolutely be harmed by it.

[@Jotar0w0]

Content has been especially good recently great work man

[@cubangoten]

You're basically my navigator's co-pilot. Continue exploring and facilitating the JoJo gospel!

[@Mine0Taur]

I once made a list of Top 10 Strongest JoJo characters and, because it was correct, Notorious B.I.G was at number 3 only behind Causality Manipulators like Wonder of U and Love Train, tied at spot 2, and GER as number 1. Immortal, inescapable and ever-growing. Able to defeat even Kars. However, like always, there is a catch, as any cold-based ability is a hard counter to the motion and energy which are the basis of BIG's power. Horus and White Album ftw.

[@mars7304]

Any vampire in the story could have easily dispatched BIG. It's strength is only found in the weaknesses of its opponents. If Ghiaccio encounters BIG even once he ends it.

[@Mine0Taur]

@@mars7304 For vampires it's thougher however. Jojo Vampires flashfreeze their targets by sucking up heat through physical contact. Notorious BIG also sucks up energy through physical contact. Lots of sucking altogether.

[@mars7304]

​@@Mine0Taur flash freezing is a quicker effect than BIG could react to. Also, undeath is naturally considered a lack of life-force. I don't know that BIG could even feed on or absorb Dio, even if he got past the flash freeze.

[@addison_v_ertisement1678]

​​@@mars7304Haven't we only seen Dio do that?

[@mars7304]

​@@addison_v_ertisement1678 Sure, but that means nothing when we have confirmed the existence of other vampires early in part 2. Araki just kinda wrote them out.

[@Cactus02-j7p]

I think Cream would be the perfect stand to counter big by simply erasing it.

[@beanosin4711]

or ZA HANDO

[@Hachurart]

Amazing use of Jet Set Radio's OST in the background for this one

[@SomethingStupidIdk]

If I made a character and named it after biggie I wouldn't kill it either. Bros songs are too powerful. Also I like notorious bigs design. I'm glad he didn't die

[@Lazar-TS]

*Green, Green Grass Of Home.* Go crazy, my guy

[@dankdoge8029]

Yes, Vanilla ice and Okyasu may be able to kill BIG, but if they were infected by the symbiotic form first? Idk could be interesting

[@miguelabro]

Jojo code: If stand = invincible then send to space.

[@jobon7708]

Pretty good way to get rid of something

[@404daisuke]

Aaaa it's so rare to found good Carne/B.I.G content, awesome vid !!

[@thatguy779]

A couple stands that I think just by the nature of their form or the way they attack who could potentially hard-counter B.I.G. would be ones like Bastet, The Fool, Magician's Red is a BIG HUGE "if", The Hand, Yellow Temperance/Highway Star if B.I.G. being physical makes it able to be consumed, Horus/White Album, Purple Haze/Green Day, Metallica, Jumpin' Jack Flash/G.G.G.H., and M.I.H.just to keep it in the o.g. universe

[@chrismaples9392]

If it steals energy from an engine specifically, and sees through movement, it's energy absorbtion is probably based in kinesis, or motive energy manipulation. On an aside,in your comparison with Killer Queen, you do realise that if the explosion actually went off it wouldn't leave traces of BIG, since killer queens explosions destroy all of what is affected unless kira specifcally prevents a part from being destroyed, like be does with women's hands.

[@thetacopunch]

I always imagined B.I.G would revive carne using the energy gained in the course of satasfiying his grudge, maybe keeping a backup of his soul that’s ejected from the body with the stands post mort activation? Either way it would solve the question of how he knows what his ability does and why he’s stuck around for so long despite seemingly only being good for suicide attacks

[@addison_v_ertisement1678]

1:11 "... and energy from mechanical objects like an engine! (For some reason)" Umm, you do know how engines work, right? The produce heat, and energy. That's how cars, planes, trucks, etc. move around.

[@demi-femme4821]

I think there are three Stands that can definitively beat BIG: Cream, Man in the Mirror, and Tusk Act 4. Cream's ability to send material to the void should allow Vanilla Ice to attack it without risking damage in return, and thus he could defeat BIG. Man in the Mirror is a simple case. Illuso drags BIG into the mirror world and then leaves. Even if it sticks onto Illuso, it won't be able to leave the mirror world with him and thus would be trapped there, granting Illuso the win. It also seems to have a limited range on its tracking, as I'm sure planes fly over that sea all the time without getting destroyed, so it's not like Illuso is giving up his ability to use Man in the Mirror in order to beat it, either. -Tusk Act 4 is pretty self-explanatory. It's an infinite attack. BIG would latch onto one of its bullets and then be stuck in the infinite rotation. GER may or may not have the destructive power to just obliterate BIG, we literally cannot know. If it doesn't, then that match is a stalemate. Go Beyond could destroy BIG if it was still weak. The bubbles technically don't exist so BIG wouldn't be able to track onto them. They also have good enough destructive power that they might be able to totally get rid of a solid chunk of it. However, after a certain point, BIG would just be too, well, big to be affected.

[@johnortega8495]

The Hand, Vanilla Ice, Green Tea and the Green Baby's stand could the job making it small until nothing remains. Maybe even Fugo's Puple Haze can do it with the virus.

[@addison_v_ertisement1678]

5:58 Well, we know that ghosts can see stands, and even interact with them.

[@tzorfireis425]

I think something worth noting is that BIG definitely *can't* simply absorb any energy it comes into contact with. It's clearly vulnerable to damage, which is on a technical level just violently transferring energy into a target such that it can't handle it while maintaining its structure. If BIG absorbed all energy that it contacted, it would be impossible to even harm it, as it'd just absorb the energy. This also means that Jotaro and DIO do actually have *a* shot at harming it, but it'd be a very specific strat. The only opportunity they'd have to hurt it is within timestop, and they'd have to be moving slower than something else as long as they're out of timestop so that BIG is distracted until they can timestop again. This also means that any stand that can hit it hard enough to damage it can *technically* kill it, but only if they can constantly have something else be going faster nearby, which most can't do. Also this property does mean you can probably just drop a nuke right on top of it and it'd just cease to exist but if it's big enough or the nuke isn't close enough to guarantee full vaporization there's always the chance of some tiny little speck surviving and going off miles away so I don't think it'd be worth risking

[@son_of_the_heavymetal1142]

I think the stands that can beat BIG are: - Any stand that is able to delete stuff (Vanilla Ice, maybe the Hand) - That elettrical tower trap stand can probably cage it - Tusk-4 can maybe spin it to death

[@cashless44]

You should do more Collabs, I'd love to see them

[@hotabichnk]

I guess Notorious B.I.G can be defeated by another energy absorbing stand, or perhaps a freezing stand.

[@zebbediahjones5062]

I think that that, in the initial stages before it can really grow, the stand might be weak to the Vampire energy draining effects of part 1 and 2 to rip all of its energy out at high speed. Once large, you might need a Pillar-men or better to take it down that way, but it would still be theoretically possible. The problem would be having the vampire survive long enough to use that trick, especially with how the Stand might manage on doing the same thing to them, but I could see it working in their favor.

[@hendrixdev]

Bohemian Rhapsody is a broken stand lowkey for someone to have to be in a story and go through that story without dying but you’re the character that could be killed or is supposed to be killed is kind of insane

[@FloopytheStinker]

No one ever talks about white album, at first it just seems like “haha cool ice” while in reality this stand can create such cold that it can FREEZE AIR. That is remarkably busted yet no one talks about it (also its really cool)

[@11111416]

assuming it can absorb an infinite amount of kinetic energy and heat energy into itself at an infinite rate, which it probably cannot do, you could still defeat it by freezing it. It seems like the stand is a physical object, and it is seems based on contact with Giorno to be around average body temperature or room temperature, stands that produce a lot of heat exist, so if there was ever a stand that froze things to death you could almost certainly use that sort of method. You might even be able to just trap it in an incredibly cold environment and freeze it in ice. If you need a solution specifically provided in the JoJo sending it into space like Kars would work just fine. It could also be thrown in a box if you caught it while it was very small and trapped like that probably forever.

[@raph3699]

I think notorious BIG is visible to non stand users because it’s mainly made out of flesh (similarly to the car stand being made out of a car)

[@LanceChiasson]

The stand is made entirely out of Giorno's flesh since it sprouted from his arm, got cut off and then kept growing, it's not invisible to non stand users and it can't go through objects. Trish was able to see the stand before she had Spicegirl.

[@Firethorn.gaming]

What if someone started running around and dancing within Flytrap? Notorious BIG gets stuck and whenever he tries to escape it would either turn its attacks against itself of turn it into metal

[@t5hammer871]

3 ways: DON’T KILL THE USER Lure it into the ocean (as done in the show) or, if ur in a particularly windy area like Wyoming, have it chase the winds

[@b12-01]

Well superfly can just contain this thing for the rest of time

[@Bruh-Moment435]

I feel like any stand that can absolutely erase things from reality like Cream and The Hand would have a shot at being able to destroy B.I.G. so long as you were sure to completely and absolutely destroy every remaining piece

[@PirateCommando]

Energy is such a vague term, I can’t tell if it means life force or stamina or energy as described by physics, or even fiction beam energy.

[@mars7304]

Energy encompasses heat, movement, life force, and more. It's not vague, it's just broad.

[@Infected-Candies]

the fact that dia was able to hire him without getting ripped to pieces has to be the impressive part, even if king crimson could skip to avoid it even so much as twitchin a finger wouldve made him into a bloody puree

[@respectfullyrazerian2154]

5:29 Kira's stand i think would be one of the only ones that would work, his main ability is to completely disintegrate things so that there is no evidence. In each of the people's deaths the only people with any shred of body left are the women's hands he takes. While i could see Notorious BIG absorbing a regular explosion's power i don't think a power that works off of pretty much existence erasure would be absorbed. Edit: The only things that aren't completely destroyed by Killer Queen are people around the object it touched, there's a chance of survival if the person he's trying to kill isn't the thing he made into a bomb. So if Kira Killer queen flipped a coin or something to get it close to him without moving too fast, I'd assume he could safely poke it and destroy it, as his bombs eradicate things on the atomic level if made into a bomb directly.

[@Green-3c34y65vrbu]

the real question is who wins, Ultimate Kars or Notorious BIG?! ultimate biological adaptation vs ultimate spiritual adaptation..

[@princezzaphroditeolega7117]

For me,I think the best way to defeat it is by doing what Trish did by cutting off a piece of something that N.BIG is attached to,but mix it with being in Green Day's range. N.BIG will fall and won't be able to do anything much,cuz he doesn't have anything to attached to,and while he's falling,Green Day's ability to turn anything moving down or falling into mold will be finishing it.

[@AwesomeJJ.]

To be fair, I don’t think it would be able to absorb all types of energy because otherwise it would start absorbing particle energy immediately and grow to its ocean size almost immediately, which then brings me to the point of if freezing it would work, as if you could flash freeze it or something I think that would just render it helpless without the ability to absorb energy😊

[@Blandy8521]

Vanilla & Cream being a literal black hole could kill it

[@AxiEisa]

I like how the legend of The Kraken was just a Stand similar to Notorious B.I.G

[@gilgameshdevourerofworldsg4101]

The hand and Cream definitely have the best chance here

[@sirspoonkm.]

Yo a new Kaleb video to start my day

[@pinksoda8702]

the hand and vanilla ice are the only 2 i can think of that would kill it. maybe even kiras dad could at least trap it?

[@alexjones6114]

Stands/characters I think could beat notorious b.i.g. Vanilla ice cream, kira (I’m pretty sure he can choose how to detonate his bombs one of which slowly burns it all away), the hand (if okuyasu were smart enough), green day, and manga spoilers from here on, johnny and gyro (still not 100% on how spin works), Hato’s boyfriend I can’t remember his name and poor tom with ozone baby. That’s as far as I’ve read so far so I won’t talk about stands like wonder of you. There’s also probably a ton I’m forgetting because I have terrible memory. Some of these (like the last two) I don’t think their stand could beat b.i.g. but I think they would grant opportunities to beat it

[@Novice9241]

About Green Day, Secco actually asked if Green Day’s ability would effect it, and Cioccolata had no idea if it would.

[@superkaras588]

The stand's growth is only A(very good), but not infinite. This might imply that it can be destroyed with an energy blast of such power that it won't be able to fully absorb it.

[@fgregerfeaxcwfeffece]

Stands that can remove energy and or mass could counter it in general, otherwise you are limited to avoiding it. Freezing might be a thing that works even outside of stand powers. As outside energy seems to be a genuine limitation. I just realized that this might create interesting technicalities around "maxwells demon" with Star Platinum. Basically stands don't have physical mass or energy. So Star Platinum could do molecular shenanigans that cool down an area to absolute zero to defeat B.I.G.SO the remaining question is: Is star platinum molecular accurate? If yes it could do it with enough speed. At this point the only thing preventing Star Platinum from unlimited transmutation would be Heisenberg's uncertainty principle.

[@darkling-studios]

Its basically an alpha vampire that feeds on vampires. It can eat other stands

[@dougtheghoul2845]

"Act 3: Freeze!" "Za Hando!" the end Though it could probably absorb echoes energy, Kokichi can lure it into a trap for Okayasu to erase.

[@JaredsGhost]

Cold is the absence of energy, so put B.I.G. in a really cold room.

[@allforone3427]

Imagine if Carne got stuck with Cheap Trick and then someone saw his back. That dude has to know deal with Notorious B.I.G AND Cheap Trick. He's got at best 5 Seconds left to live.

[@AmericanBrit9834]

My take: In a straight fight, unless you have STRAIGHT UP REALITY DELETION or Existence obliteration (Not return to zero, Infinite Rotation, Heavens Door (BIG is blind so Rohan can't do shit to it), Calamity, Primary Bomb, any time ability seen, Love Train, or most abilities), then killing is off the table. The only 2 stands I believe could actually pull this off are D4C through what I'm calling the Dimensional Doppelgänger, where he brings an alternate of you and the 2 of you slam into each other and are obliterated, and TWOH, as much as I hate sucking off the latter, thanks to it's reality overwrite. In terms of trapping it, you have a few more options. Ghiaccio's White Album could be perfect since it get's close to absolute zero, I.E. the complete absence of energy. Afterwards just take it to the Arctic where the ice block will never thaw and boom, done.

[@nilliawafer5179]

wait if its energy that it consumes, couldn't you just FREEZE B.I.G?

[@juanhaines7295]

Soft & wet go beyond transcends all logic so he gappy could do it. But then again he's in an alternate timeline.

[@skixuphrenic]

Finally the video I was waiting for.

[@ragingwaves8227]

Echoes Act 2 is the strongest part 4 stand😤

[@striderzer0]

is this another "send it to space" situation?

[@eggroll3055]

Imagine if during Part 6 when Pucci was using MiH and doing his whole thing, Notorious B.I.G just came all the way from the Tyrannean Sea and blitzed him.

[@Replica_Rabbit]

Freezing it to absolute zero would do the trick and Gina's Unchange (Undead Unluck) would also stop it

[@christophermccutcheon2143]

I kinda thought the Stand User would rezz once BIG killed the grudge, since it grew basically flesh out if almost nothing. Thought BIG would morph into the User once it completed it's goal

[@edwardgamerx9061]

The Hand: Buh Bye.

[@luanfonseca5179]

it was too late to notice this wasnt a great video to watch while eating

[@kodoqbesar4301]

I lowkey want to know if Notorious Big can keep up with Pucci at max speed

[@-AirKat-]

Considering B.I.G’s undead properties I wonder if Hamon would have any effect on it

[@steelasura]

Hamon has not effect on a stand, only a stand can hit a stand, idt hermit purp has what it takes

[@NoobSebot]

@@steelasurahamon and stands work the same way. If someone had hamon they can interact with stand users.

[@steelasura]

@@NoobSebot sure they can interact w stand users, but bigs user is dead. Regardless of if hamon and stands are a manifestation of ones spirit hamon CANNOT hit a stand. If hamon worked on stands Joseph would've been unbeatable

[@NoobSebot]

@@steelasura hamon can interact with stands regardless. Hamon is the reason Joseph has a stand. Joseph is a 80 year old man, he isn’t invincible. The stand B I G is the manifestation of one’s spirit. The use is dead, but their willpower still remains - of course its interact able, thats literally why everyone is able to touch it with their stands. Youre just being blatantly ignorant of what information JoJo in trying to convey to you.

[@steelasura]

@@NoobSebot joseph was 68 in part 3, shows your dedication to JoJo, also I would like your source for your feeble explanation

[@VGamingJunkieVT]

I don’t think it can absorb explosive energy because the airplane blowing up destroyed almost all of it. The part that remained was much smaller, suggesting you can destroy it but it would have to be all or nothing. If even a sliver of it exists, you’ll still have a problem. In other words, it would be like perfect cell from dragon ball Z. Every single cell has to be destroyed simultaneously.

[@anthonywinship5776]

It would be fun to do a stand tournament for everyone in the whole series and randomize opponents and just see who comes out on top

[@GabrielSenpai]

The curious thing is how you know what the Stand's ability is if it requires its user to die. unless the result of the Carne death was really something unexpected.

[@Korosivv]

You'd think The Hand or Cream would be able to destroy the stand, or at least put it in another dimention.

[@akimonster]

The hand solves all

[@comet8539]

In theory, wouldn't using a rocket be the best way to eliminate BIG? A rocket has the ability to reach escape velocity, BIG would be attracted to the launch as a rocket produces more energy and travels much faster than anything else. Once in orbit, you don't have to deal with it anymore, if it's reach escape velocity, it cannot do anything and will just drift into the void of space

[@gamefan14]

(Made this before watched the video) Someone might have said this already, but i’d say this: I think NOTORIOUS B.I.G’s immortality ability is secondary, nay, Hidden ability that even Carne didn’t know. There are stand users that doesn’t know their stand abilities very well, Like Giorno’s GER, and Weather report’s WR hidden ability (that defeated Pucci in the end). I Also think that Carne has Never fought anyone who had long range stand, and he thought that he could kill them easily (as only boss knew their abilities). NOTORIOUS B.I.G looks different when he summons it, and when it is free…

[@gamefan14]

As for how to trully defeat NOTORIOUS B.I.G…… only one has that ability, and he’s nowhere capable to fight it in a sun (and he is dead before part 5 starts). And he has appeared in the video, so no spoilers. 🙂😺 (Technically 2, but other one needs to swing his arm to make things dissapear, and If he loses that arm, he’s not gonna survive, even with Josuke around.)

[@cookies23z]

Post mortem nen really is crazy