How Valium Destroyed A Top Realtor’s Lucrative Career

[@McStorch0]

I always feel sad seeing stories like this. No support from the spouse. Tapering and then trying other drugs and getting stuck on that merry go round, reinstating the benzo after making it so far. And everyone knows that it rarely works. The only way out is through, unfortunately. It’s absolute torture and it takes such a long time. I wish this woman the best of luck.

[@aneliadraganova3504]

❤

[@PeterYost]

My first thought is that you are FAR better off than most benzo injured patients. Talking and even walking was not possible for me this early in after cessation of the benzo. You are speaking clearly and able to sit still. I was unable to conduct my interview with Dr Josef until year four! Hang in there. You’re doing great relatively speaking!

[@shawnaford5540]

I think she said she is at 18 months. But I heard it can take years.

[@Q1776Q]

Same here I was basically incapable of doing anything!!! Much less going to work.

[@ShibbysVideos]

She tapered for 15 months and switched to phenobarbital and then switched back to Valium and up-dosed to stabilize. Not everyone is able to do all of that and be able to stabilize.

[@ShibbysVideos]

I saw her struggles and I saw her answers to people asking if she is feeling better and she says yes. Again, not everyone is able to do all of that and be able to stabilize. Benzos wreck havoc for more people than not. ❤️🙏

[@materiais10]

@@ShibbysVideos it's russian rollete. One benzo dose i took after finishing a symptom free slow taper caused disabling withdrawl/neurological damage going on for a year now, i'm unrecognizable and lost everything. Its apalling that even these so called med injury doctors aren't aware of that possibility and these interviews are only about the common Issues everyone knows.

[@carriec9349]

When all you know is SUFFERING for 24/7, yes we obsess about it. There is NO escape for us!!! It’s tough when it lasts for YEARS. It’s destroyed a lot of my relationships. I’m tougher now. I’m still suffering but I’m a benzo warrior. Not gonna let this kick my ass & do me in.

[@bruceyoung565]

@@carriec9349 I was Cipro poisoned 22 years ago. It changed my personality permanently. I reached the point where I could not go to a restaurant or be in crowds or around many people. I lost many friends and business deals because of my mental state. The only thing that really benefited me was when I started to eat carnivore. It seems that sugars, seed oils, process food in carbohydrates, causing inflammation in my body and brain. I don’t know if this will help you or not. But of everything I’ve tried over the years and I’ve tried many things. This is the only thing that reduced my anxiety, headaches, and body pain to the point where I could function again. Keep fighting the fight and keep searching.

[@astrahcat1212]

Never give up and make a pact to NEVER stop trying

[@incognito595]

@@astrahcat1212 IF YOU DIE, THEY WIN. DON'T GIVE UP OR GO BACK. NO MATTER WHAT.

[@melissaodonoghue7647]

I’m so sorry 😢 I have been there. I swear it gets better. I also went on HRT…saved my life!!!

[@elldev33]

How long were you off of benzo when you started HRT? I just started at 2 years off. I’d love to know how it went for you.

[@gustsuz8587]

omg. I am going through a very similar situation after 20 years on Xanax. I had my doctor tell me that I'm exaggerating my symptoms! I am 15 months out, and although I don't feel any better, I know I can do minimal tasks that I couldn't do a few months ago. Hang in there. You WILL heal. Godspeed.

[@Mmcermes]

How did u taper? I'm stuck on 3mg day to just keep withdrawals at bay and my doctor suggested a switch to diazepam or clonazepam as they are long acting. If I knew what I know now I'd never ever took the first pill.

[@Rocketman0407]

@@Mmcermesimo switching to those longer acting ones will give you more stability. I dose Clonazepam one time every 24 hours and no ups and down in the mood that Xanax can do for some.

[@gustsuz8587]

@@Mmcermes My Dr. gave me five days to 'taper'. She had no idea what she was doing. If it has been a while, I wouldn't suggest going back to any meds because of other potential problems. From everything I have read, your body is working to recreate homeostasis, and believe it or not, we'll all get there if we give it enough time. I know everything feels awful, but there is healing, it is just tough to see it right now. I wouldn't have ever agreed to go on this had I known there were any risks. I was told many times over that it was safe and there was no risk of dependence. I only try to focus on getting through each day and not on the anger towards these ignorant doctors.

[@incognito595]

Keep going.

[@dannied8885]

​@Mmcermes I'm in the same situation. My doctor switched me over to Clonazepam and put me in a tail spin. I went back on the Xanax 4mg a day. Idk what to do now so I'm looking into rehab centers at the moment because there is only one other option in my opinion

[@RachH-healing]

I think we all go through a period of obsessively being in groups, looking for answers, trying things, etc and then either acceptance comes in or we realize we’ve tried everything everything and nothing helps. As healing happens though, your body and mind will naturally start to heal and things slowly shift into trying new thing, getting out, etc… We all will heal with time & time is the hardest to accept in this journey. ❤

[@seandalton2580]

My taper took 18 months. It's a lot more complicated than that and there were many times i thought i would never get better but i just wanted to share that i did eventually recover and am doing well now. I don't mean to sound discouraging but even after I finished tapering it probably took another six months to a year until I felt i was going to be ok. I would strongly encourage getting your vitamin D3 level checked. They will tell you 28 is "normal" but if having sleep issues, depression or anxiety you should be shooting for 40-80. Best wishes to you. I also had to sort all this out on my own with Heather Ashton's withdrawal manual.

[@annipsy2185]

28 is terrrible

[@avarismimi]

Did you get to a point where you took a small dose every 4 days ? When did you just stop altogether? Thank you

[@avarismimi]

So happy you got free 😊

[@seandalton2580]

@@avarismimi Oh no, I never stop taking it. It's been proven that some people it doesn't matter how much time they spend in the sun their body will never make enough vitamin D3. I took 10,000 units per day for about a month. By then my depression was gone and I was then able to get my blood checked. It was still kinda low around 40 so I kept taking 10,000 per day until I got up around 90 then I started backing off and now I do well on 4000 units per day. It is fat soluble so a person can possibly get too much but that really hasn't been much of a problem for me. Interestingly, the symptoms of too much vitamin D3 are similar to low levels so that can be used as a rough guide but blood tests are the best way to sort this out.

[@Sp-mv5ki]

Yep all 100% true, sleep disturbance becomes very significant first, with horrendous morning anxiety, self isolation increases not wanting to go meet friends, events etc..........Constant loop of negative thoughts is ongoing alongside physical symptoms of blurry vision, inability to relax probably been the highest on the list!! Self Compassion, very slow tapering ( I am only starting), and informing a few close family members/friends if possible definitely helps and knowing will improve over time.........Lots of friends lost along the way but forget about that where they ever really friends in the first place is how I view it!! I wish you the best in your journey and know that healing is a long process but it will happen.

[@DebbieDwyer-cd5lh]

Sending you a virtual hug and the very best of everything x I can relate big time. It's so nice to know that there are people that understand the damage done by certain meds. I wouldn't wish it on a soul x Also wishing you a happy Christmas and a happy,healthy and loving New Year. ❤❤❤

[@Rocketman0407]

@@Sp-mv5ki morning anxiety is horrible. Just forcing oneself to do some light activities I found pretty much alleviated those adrenaline surges I felt in my body. Especially my feet It was as if I need to metabolize some adrenaline or something and walking sped that up.

[@astrahcat1212]

I understand completely what losing it all is like this, and it's REALLY bad when the medical industry completely abandons you

[@mazymonroe8749]

So sorry for what you are going through Evelyn. Some of your symptoms sound very similar to my SSRI withdrawal, which I have been enduring for 2 years!. You are correct in describing it as a neurological damage. That is what these LEGAL meds do to us!😢😢

[@incognito595]

BRAIN DAMAGE BRAIN DAMAGE BRAIN DAMAGE

[@palace927]

My mother was a CCU nurse for 34 years that was addicted to valium for 20 of those years. She retired at 74 and was diagnosed with dementia when she was 79. I blame her addiction for the deterioration of her brain from valium. There was no family history of dementia in her family.

[@francescahuneeus7009]

So sorry this lovely person is going through such a horrible situation!!😢🙏i understand i tapered off clonazepam!!complete nightmare. I've been on it four years trying to kill the pain of severe depression!! Remember the brain is resilient it can heal.❤🙏😘

[@senthilnathan2k]

I am from India I am tapering Diazepam 1mg on this dosage for last 23 days it's very nasty every day intrusive thoughts and ruminating and sui**dal thoughts every other hour memory issues gut issues every body looks like alien when I see them i see in different perspective and reduced appetite still have fluvoxamine 125 mg amisulpride 25mg and pregabalin 25mg...I cross tapered from clonazepam 0.25 mg to 5 mg as per ashton manual and reduced 1mg every one month from August 2024

[@ajss0707]

I am very sorry for all of your side effects from tapering. I am helping someone taper off of Klonopin and she has many of the same issues as you do and it is becoming very debilitating. I wish you the best of luck with your tapering and recovery.

[@evelynthorne8847]

UPDATE SINCE THE INTERVIEW I STOPPED THE PHEN I HAVE GONE BACK ON 20 mg of valium. I’m 67 it all about quality of life. I will never taper again. Im am symptom free now. Back to trying to get my life back. Its been hard i feel like i lost so much thru this. Im in cbt therapy now. This taper gave me ptsd it traumatized me. Thanks for all the support.

[@Lolipop59]

Hi Evelyn. I am sorry to here how much you have suffered ..So , are you back on valium 20 mg per day or per dose ? Thank you very much . 🤗

[@sihamelha6797]

Hi Evelyn, God bless you, don't ever give up It Will get better❤ you are not alone

[@jamesrob8552]

Im so glad you are symptom free. It’s your life and you got to make the best decision for you.

[@Rocketman0407]

No shame in staying on them if it gives you a better quality of life.

[@paindepices6793]

I am so sorry to hear that Evelyn but it Is a good choice. You're right, quality of.life matters a lot. Sending you hugs and.wishing you peace and hope you feel safe again soon.❤❤❤

[@kevk741]

I had an entire second journey after stopping klonopin. Most of my worst symptoms erupted 4-12 months off. I didn’t even start pacing until 14-18 mths off. My worst symptoms were months 6-9. It was like trying to walk a tight rope across the Grand Canyon. Even if you gave me everything that I didn’t have, I would not be able to do that a second time. A tinnitus explosion was the first thing that told me something had gone very wrong. My inner akathisia erupted 8-12 weeks off.

[@HoneyGemHeart]

@@kevk741 no I definitely could not do it again either

[@kevk741]

@@HoneyGemHeartif I’d known my own personal risks for tardive injury, I’d of never come all the way off, or I’d done it even more slowly. As it was, I started tapering in Mid 2017 and finished in May 2020. I tapered the opiate to a spec of dust. I took my eye off the benzo. I tapered from 2mg-1mg over a year. I quick tapered the last 0.75mg/day never things stuff like this could happen. I should note: I realized after my injury that I was carrying a level of akathisia & dystonia going into my last reinstatement. I would have never brought the benzo back had I known.

[@claireh.7605]

I work in a nursing home. People in their 80s and 90s do take Lorazepam regularly for years. It makes them shaky and nervous though. They get shaky when it comes for the next dose. I saw an elderly woman who was kind of brain fogged and cognitively declined and anxious and she did get injured by cipro and was on anti depressant which made her self centered and not interested in connecting normally.

[@michelekisly2535]

And I have had all these symptoms...at various intensities and I cried frequently. In the beginning I used to think I could make a work appointment but when morning came I'd stare straight ahead at a closet and within minutes I was on the phone texting the client to cancel. No way could I even fake it. No familial or friend support. I used to love my work but was unable to be whomever I WAS --- SO DEMORALIZING. I know what real paranoia is but this was different. I physically and mentally CHANGED and not for the better. Again, I had all the same symptoms--- couldn't learn any NEW thing. Or so I thought : I was ONLY COMFORTABLE IN BED , watching KZbin my only family. Grief, fear and bitterness because my needs had changed...and no one cared. They didn't care to know about me. And I was a Public Figure ! BUT I just finished a difficult move...and a year of Clinical Depression followed --- I couldn't believe I lived through Suicidality like I did. I still stay in bed till afternoon so I only deal with early evening which as they mentioned isn't as frightful. It takes forever to get dressed because I'm now very physically challenged...lost ability to walk normally and pain has to be treated. Horrific is right ! I really could write a book but when I talk about my life after and during the injuries I realize I sound NARCISSISTIC...a woman alone, with no husband, son, brother or boyfriend behind her and who's mental and physical health is compromised becomes an easy target for judgement, abuse and harrassment. Again, I'm not clinically Paranoid, but care enough for us all to fight. I could only reinstate a low dose, and that was a fight. My old school MD is finally aware he's being watched and is self protective --- no remorse .

[@sunnyadams5842]

I have the same terrible, haunting sense that I sound like a raging Narcissist when I describe, or really ponder, my situation, too!!😡 Unlike the guest here, I am sure I am not an unaware mid-range Narcissist, and I have gotten WAY over the anger and resentment at losing my social/work/piblic life but I do worry about something kinda silly, maybe, but it feels weird ( exposed and scary) to contemplate running into a situation in which my character needs vouching for and I have no one in my corner! Like you have found, it is a jarring change for me too, as I was a very active, well-known, sought out therapist in the legal world in my area in southwestern New Mexico.. Going on to law school when the shit hit the fan. To Zero, due entirely to Narcissistic abuse...long story.... Of course, blah, blah, blah. And I was a mess in need of some Major overhaul. I melted down in a fairly public way....and the Smear Campaign was CLEVER!! Anyhoo- I wish I could find someone like you in my area to have, like, a bi-monthly coffee with...😂 Happy New Year❤ I

[@incognito595]

The reason she keeps talking about it is SHE IS FIGHTING TO SURVIVE.

[@michelekisly2535]

@incognito595 TRAUMATIZED

[@incognito595]

@@michelekisly2535 YOU ARE NOT ALONE. I SAY SUE THEM ALL. ACTUALLY, EVERYONE WISHES THAT THEY COULD DO THAT. THEY HAVE MADE THAT VIRTUALLY IMPOSSIBLE. FILE COMPLAINTS WITH YOUR STATE BOARD OF MEDICINE, THE DEA, THE FDA, THE STATE BOARD OF HEALTH, ETC.

[@Lblblb71]

The groups are what gave me the support to get through because those that don’t go through it are clueless to the symptoms. It took me years to recover to the point I could cook walk . Take a bath without my heart rate being 140 . So many relationships fail going through this damage and it just ones down to you have to take care of your self and protect yourself first .

[@canoegirl6335]

I’ve tapered to .5 Lora from 2.5. Started in April -started weaning in August of this year 2024. Was put on Prozac in July for my anxiety disorder stemming from facial pain that suddenly appeared. I’ve got the worst anxiety still.. every morning… adrenaline rush, illogical fear, gut churning anxiety which tends to slow down mid to late afternoon. I see therapists and no one can help me out with the physical symptoms of anxiety.

[@penelopehill9710]

Appreciate this story for courageous determination to manage and recover from drug injury. Truly

[@justmadeit2]

Honestly if a person had no support and was suffering from depression too then having withdrawals like this would send a person to a psych ward, it would be extra hell

[@kevk741]

PS: You have to talk about this. If you have akathisia or serious protracted injuries, you need to talk about it. It’s that severe. I know what it must look like. She is not obsessing. You need that constant validation when you are having the crap beat out of you. It’s that scary that you need someone every 15 minutes for years. That’s what it takes to survive.

[@Jamesdtrepanier]

I went thru the same thing. 8 Yrs on Klonopin (0.5 mg) taken as needed for 8 yrs. I went sent into severe withdrawal after 1 capsule of Antibiotic in Mexico to treat a parasite. It's been 6 yrs since my last dose (nov 2018) and i'm still unwell.

[@indigobunting2431]

I was already in bad shape but antibiotics after a dog bite made me have symptoms just like this woman. Years now.

[@bobbellendovich6825]

YES!!!! Antibiotics for elevated White blood cells from a leg wound made me hallucinate, and took MONTHS to recover from. Brain fog for 4 months.

[@potatochalbro]

Good luck Evelyn! You'll get there. Please know that you'll be okay and you'll function again, even if it takes a couple of years! ❤ I've never been on benzos but I have PTSD since being 22 years, I'm 33 now and I know all about neurological injury that's incredibly difficult to heal. I haven't had sex for 11 years.

[@sunnyadams5842]

Do you even want to?? I realized you don't need a partner to have a healthy level of pleasure in our lives. 😊 No addictive issues Just good clean fun without complications 🤣😘

[@Jen-c6u]

Hi dr. Joseph. Im finally getting referred to UNMH Neurology. Yay. Ive been recognized.2.4 yrs into benzo withdrawal. It's been hell. Was on benzos for 35 years.

[@ciaramcclellan9584]

I’m going through the same and I distract myself with funny podcasts and KZbin videos . I went back on Klonopin after a cold turkey and yes I can sleep but still Dealing with waves and depression. But yeah you can’t keep complaining and I know it’s hard not to trust me . I’m saying that bc I’m seeing what it’s doing to my relationship. I have kids too so I fake it till I make it basically . I live for there happiness bc the thoughts are so bad in the mornings especially . I totally get it when the sun starts to go down I’m like ahhh finally I get to relax A little bit . I’ve never heard anyone mention that . But yeah I feel better at night !! Also turning negative thoughts into positive. Remember the power of life and death is in the tongue . You can actually retrain your brain . Easier said than done tho . We will heal !!

[@blairlazarus772]

Im 35 and have been going theough this for over 5 years and am a very severe case. I am now bedridden with disabling mental symptoms. This is beyond inhumane. I cant leave my house and barely leave the bed its complete torture..this is my third taper and dont know how to keep doing this when it will take years to heal and im still not off

[@bruceyoung565]

@@blairlazarus772 my heart goes out to you. I sat on the edge of my bed crying for years wanting to kill myself. Please keep trying. This may sound strange but going carnivore got me out of bed and back to living . I am not perfect but I can now participate in life and don’t have a headache every day or arthritis. They’ve gone away completely. I’m still weaker than the average person, but I’m working on it. Seems to me that sugars carbohydrates vegetable oils and grains cause inflammation in my body and brain. If I don’t put these things in my body, I’m much better off. I hope and pray for you keep trying.

[@annipsy2185]

i hope this is not insensitive to ask but....what if you go back on the drug?

[@bruceyoung565]

@ that is a great question, many people go back on , then begin a taper. It is a very individual thing.

[@annipsy2185]

​@@bruceyoung565cause i feel like if its taken 5 years then your already sorta ruining your life maybe even more than when you were on the drug? 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@robertpagen2770]

Twenty years ago I was prescribed some Cipro. Cipro was brutal. Thought I would die

[@trapped-ion]

I had a friend who turned vegetarian (we lost contact but he's alive) and he ALMOST convinced me back then (~15 years ago) after he, himself, said he had "SEEN" the light and converted to become vegetarian. He said he was no longer hearing his heart beating in the left ear, was sleeping better, etc. I promised him I was going to do the same. You know the "newly recruited disciple" beaming with excitement. You know the joy of "Ive finally found the light." All my weight problems, no more hearing of the boom-boom sound of the heart in the earat night, tasty fruits, ethical issues, healthy and peace loving citizen, etc. The confluence of all my problems would finally be solved. Of course , all such grandiose expectations were short-lived. It wasn't because of lack of motivation, but mostly constantly feeling hungry (I mean all the time) and the accompanying "solution" (i.e., eating some more). I think you have all concluded that the deck of cards collapsed 😂. Now, I'm fully carnivore for a while now, I lost 40kg, am sleeping better, nomore boom boom in the left ear, morning fasting sugar levels averraging 4.8 mmol/L, etc. I'm not slating those who choose the V lifestyle, but for me, what has worked is going carnivore, and I'm happy for it!

[@AnAutisticIntervert]

I can definitely relate to this story...very very well mirror image symptoms ...5 yrs out I'm not sure if it will ever go away

[@Salvation-John316]

In my worst withdrawals I couldn’t be do a interview like this… the only thing i could do was pacing, pacing and pacing. Being alone under the shower for ours.

[@Mnichols374]

14 months off and im worse then i have ever been i know theres way worse people then ive seen on your channel. Does this get better? Can it get worse before better? Im terrified. I don't see people with half of there head in pain and numb and completely out of your mind all day i just want to survive this.😢

[@mobilezeronine2866]

Lower your inflammation levels with benign substances, tudca, carnosic acid, niclosamide, ebastine, famciclovir, you gotta do enough to lower enough T cells immune responses and neurotoxicity, Focus your studies regarding improovenents autoimmune encephalitis and remyelination, edaravone is also a good molecule that you find online

[@mobilezeronine2866]

KZbin removing the reply Lower your immune response and neuroinflammation/neurotoxicity with benign stuff, niclosamide, TUDCA, carnosic acid, edaravone also a good substance that you find online Focus your studies on auto-imune encephalitis and remyelination

[@mobilezeronine2866]

Tried to reply but yt is removing, post this on anti psychiatry subreddit, will give you an insight, 4 years off and nerves damages here

[@mobilezeronine2866]

Ridículous, yt is censoring, reach out over the red robot app, anti psy community

[@mobilezeronine2866]

Yt censored the reply

[@staceyloeffler6795]

Gabapentin has helped lessen the withdrawl symptoms for me, although it doesnt take away the benxo wdrawl sx completly. The aleepless nights are the worst!

[@kevk741]

Watch adding anything while destabilized in withdrawal. “Withdrawal” is brain change = brain injury being uncovered. If you add an akathisia causing drug in that moment, you might be masking & aggravating it. I brought in klonopin to help taper an opiate. Same idea. Detox centers are notorious for doing this. Adding gabapentin or something they deem “lesser of evils” but adding something like Prozac can be worse than anything.

[@Guitar_Player2024]

I hope Evelyn will post an update soon with the newest development in her story.

[@evelynthorne8847]

I did tu

[@girlygirl1890]

@Guitar She did. She posted a comment to let everyone know how she is doing now. I am wishing her well and hope she continues to live a normal life. She deserves it.

[@briannalee174]

Hearing her husband's perspective was heartbreaking. I don't want to know my family's perspective.

[@lindsaygraham9115]

My family was mean to me and I don’t let them know anything about any of my health issues!! My husband is extremely kind and supportive. If her husband had any clue of the hell she was going through he would not be so callous. I wish people could spend a few days in our shoes to see what it’s like… not sure they’d make it though.

[@Hope_is_Love]

My last living grandparent told me in February since I can't be medically fixed there's no point in trying to have a relationship with me because it's difficult. I have the top two chronic pain conditions just under terminally ill cancer from brain surgery and a failed back procedure. I actually fantasize that I would have gotten cancer so I could have died. This has been so much harder without any support from my blood

[@lindsaygraham9115]

@ that breaks my heart! My prayers are with you! ❤️🙏🏻

[@briannalee174]

​@@Hope_is_Love I'm so sorry

[@incognito595]

If you supposedly Love someone, YOU DO NOT RIDICULE AND CRITICIZE THEIR STRUGGLE AND SUFFERING. HE DOES NOT LOVE HER. SHE SHOULD DITCH HIM.

[@CC12398]

Staying off the groups after you investigate a bit, is solid advice. I also feel like a long taper prevents the brain from being able to heal. It does het better.

[@Newlife-ol6pk]

It also depends i think of the time they were on the medication.

[@CC12398]

@Newlife-ol6pk it was 14 years with me. It was horrific but I started seeing improvement at 7months or so.(The taper puts you in chronic withdrawal. This is why they typically will not lower your (benzo) dose for any other reason. Imo

[@markpatrick5246]

So if you have severe crippling anxiety where nothing else works and you lose conciousbess w panic and get seriously hurt , what does one do to live a normal life

[@robinplante9560]

Exactly. I had no choice but to go on these meds. The panic and anxiety was too much.

[@blairlazarus772]

@@robinplante9560is yoir panic better

[@blairlazarus772]

I have severe crippling panic disorder with severe dpdr and nothing is helping anymore its so inhumane

[@MichaelJLink]

My engineering career is gone. Not sure what I'll do next.

[@blackrose8643]

😢

[@FreeWanderingThinker]

I was in a very bad place, too. I was completely unable to think normally. Two years later, I started to feel better, and I started my career in engineering again. I am still not able to work full time, but I am very glad I can work again.

[@MichaelJLink]

@@FreeWanderingThinker Unfortunately, I've been unable to work 13 years and still recovering.

[@FreeWanderingThinker]

@@MichaelJLink I'm really sorry to hear about that. If you would like to talk, I can give you my contacts. I hope you will get better soon.

[@viviyums]

It's crazy how similar this sounds to my experience as an autistic person on a bad day

[@sombradevenecia3665]

thank you all so much

[@juliehatton1961]

Good job Evelyn! Love you 💓

[@OfficialArtistChannelCeeChellz]

I just got off valium 3 weeks ago had the tinnitus the pins and needles a few times i can sleep again but the dreams are so weird and i wake up sweating as well the diarrhea has gone on the whole time kind of wondering when that will stop.

[@lonnievisch6009]

Soo sorry for you!! Terrible terrible. And then the awful morning stuff. But you Will heal. Just hold on. When You find yourself in hell just keep walking. You are not alone!!❤

[@girlygirl1890]

@lonnie Wow. Your comment is awesome. "When you find yourself in hell, keep walking...You're great. Thank you for saying that. It's true.

[@johnsukhdeo8369]

Is there another way to treat catatonia other than Benzo's and ECT?

[@janetnash8588]

This is EXACTLY what happened to me for the crime of seeking counseling after being raped. It completely destroyed what was left of my life. The prescribers should spend life behind bars for murder because I am now the walking dead.

[@HokanaMatata]

Why did you lose the doctor validation here on your youtube channel?

[@BarronBarca]

Because he’s not biased and pro big pharma that’s why. Let’s be real you better be pro big pharma or else.

[@HokanaMatata]

@ Could be. He could also be a fake like other ”doctors” on youtube. I lost respect for this guy when he started talking about that the keto diet is the cure to anything.

[@pinkdostoyevsky]

@HokanaMatataDiet has proven PROVEN SCIENTIFICALLY to reverse all types of syndromes and diseases so what are you talking about?! Please read something!!

[@McStorch0]

Dr Josef, you should know that ALOT of us don’t take any other meds and never reinstate. There is actually a very large contingent of us that get off the meds (ct and taper) and just wait it out through all the inhuman torture. Seems like you only see one side of the story.

[@bruceyoung565]

What can we do if we are damaged by Cipro. I have been hurting for more than 20 years. Each year I keep trying but nothing works.

[@mattkolb3626]

Do you have neuropathy

[@bruceyoung565]

@ yes

[@julieowen5874]

Omg. I am so sorry...

[@bruceyoung565]

@@julieowen5874 I have been doing Nad+ intravenous treatments. It has helped quite a bit. I can walk further than before and much less pain driving or sleeping. It is very expensive. I am switching to giving myself nad + subcutaneous shots next week. I am open to trying anything else if someone has a suggestion.

[@nicksterp2805]

JC, 20 years. What kind of responsible Dr prescribes that for 20 years!!

[@materiais10]

@@nicksterp2805 most of them

[@nyx3967]

Responsible doctors are rare.

[@michaelzastenchik2881]

I take this once a month if I need it. I have not had problems for some reason

[@bobbellendovich6825]

With RESPONSIBLE and MODERATE use, you won't have these issues. Most testimonials on this channel are folks like this overweight lady, they mindlessly-overindulged, and blame everything, but themselves, for their personal demons. 3 days on MAXIMUM, then take 3 days off, or longer. Your body will NOT get addicted if you regularly abstain, and practice proper diet and exercise. This lady is a walking, talking "victim".

[@MrPeterISABELLA]

U will not doing it like this. BIND occurs if u take the benzodiazepine every day for 4 months....

[@robynaxelson8855]

What is Citroen?

[@robynaxelson8855]

Cipro?

[@debbiewatermelon]

its an antibiotic

[@PlatinumLemur]

14 months are so short abd so long all at the same time. I'm not even talking about drugs or prescriptions but just in the context of getting your life "together" in the sense of health and training. (at my age) When you learn a new skill, 14 months in the context of 55 years old are obsessive for me, from the outside what it looks like to others vs how implementation of your new skills feel .. if I went backwards and quit the path I've been on for 2 and a half years and decided, my goals for improving my life weren't worth it, I'd be saying no to the gifts I gave myself, my health and getting over spinal stenosis symptoms... To just give up would be wrong. I'm never going to be 100% healthy, there's always going to be a weakness..and my skating has help improve my liife in spite of the issues. I'm doing things relatively drug free BECAUSE of skating.. when my sciatic nerve becomes inflamed occasionally I take one anti inflammatory medication, once.. but diet and exercise should never be underestimated. Take care everyone, continue to get better!⭐✨ Merry Christmas and a happy New year.

[@MOAB-UT]

Say NO to all drugs.

[@Snowflake1374]

I started SSRI 16 years ago. Deeply regret it.

[@ritamead6318]

Most drugs are short term gain with a long term disaster!!

[@MOAB-UT]

@@ritamead6318 yes

[@TAG-1984]

I would like to warn people about abilify. Only used a small dose (2.5mg) for 2 months, quit because of chronic dizziness and neurological problems, (neurological burnout?) i never experienced before with any other drug. Constant terror and anxiety(attacks) with balance problems. 4 months after quiting it. And the psychiatrist could have easily advised me to try a natural method since there is alot of risk involved with this s*it. But as we know ‘natural’ and ‘risk’ are not words they often use..

[@TAG-1984]

I’m a complete anxiety/panic wreck, with chronic dizziness/balance problems, neurological problems thanks to Abilify. Took it for 2 months, and only 2.5mg.

[@rebeccaizzmeeFemm1]

Ty!

[@wehz0r]

People usually like to drink coffee in the morning which is liquid acute stress. more often the not people have two cups of coffee by 10 a.m..... by the time five o'clock rolls around levels of caffeine have significantly dropped for the vast majority of people. This may be why symptoms improved by five o'clock and start in the morning. Caffeine has devastating effects on mental health and you only realize it after you quit for a month or two

[@devonmahdi8067]

Did it help you when you quit?

[@wehz0r]

@devonmahdi8067 I don't have the condition but wow, what a difference mentally. Things seem a lot less exciting and intense now and my mood has leveled out. I used to get into very stressful situations including fights with people on a regular basis and all that disappeared when the caffeine went. I even had a guy flip me off and charge at me and I just looked at him with disappointment instead of the usually heart pounding fight or flight response. My screaming kids don't bother me much any more and when my wife wants a fight, I'm level headed with no stress... Caffeine is liquid acute stress. Give it a try for 6 weeks and see what happens

[@wehz0r]

@devonmahdi8067 I was 2-3 cups of acute stress for more than a decade and coming out on the other side of it, I have a whole new perception of life and myself

[@louisgeen765]

So is there really nothing to help with benzo withdrawal? Like literely nothing??

[@lesliedefilippis2150]

Basically NO. I have/ am going through it for 5 years now. I am 73 years old. And it is very discouraging. I wonder if I will live long enough to get relief

[@Q1776Q]

Correct nothing but..T I M E

[@mobilezeronine2866]

Autoimmune encephalitis and hyperexcitability, oxidative overload, t cells immune response, that's the topics you should Focus on

[@louisgeen765]

@@mobilezeronine2866 did that help you?

[@materiais10]

@@louisgeen765 yes, thats the problem. Every other condition has some kind of help.

[@alittleofthisandthat8003]

Thank you for sharing.

[@incognito595]

REPORT THEM TO THE STATE MEDICAL BOARD AND THE DEA.

[@ThomasEarly-e7t]

Hi doctor hope you have a nice Christmas... start with something good for a change 😆.. sorry..my question is i know you need to weam slowly from the benzo but I've heard a couple of other rehab doctors say to cut it to 50% then taper..... is this true .. is something you would do im in tolerance withdrawals from xanax and switching over to clonazapam.. /interdose withdrawals/... so should I bring this up with my medical officer as she says once I get use to the change over to clonazapam I will taper at 2% a month.

[@Lolipop59]

Are you changing completely on clonazepam ? ? How much Xanax did you take before and how much Clonazepam did they give you for now ? Trying to learn what other doctors are doing and I would appreciate your answer. Thank you.

[@ThomasEarly-e7t]

@Lolipop59 im gona be on 2mg of clonazapam 3 times a day.. I use to take three 2mg xanax bars 3 times a day.... been on the bennzos for 10 years now but there tealy starting to effect and hurt me.

[@MrDannyLaRusso]

NO ONE understands the TORTURE us with benzodiazepine damage have gone thru.... Literally felt like i was in HELL 10 years later, im still not normal but i am a lot better..

[@MrPeterISABELLA]

Holy shit....how long were you on your benzodiazepine for?

[@MrDannyLaRusso]

@MrPeterISABELLA about 8 months 3 times a week

[@MrDannyLaRusso]

@@MrPeterISABELLA 8 months

[@MrPeterISABELLA]

@@MrDannyLaRusso what benzo was it. Your comment makes it that people never heal. The damage is permanent. 10 years and not back to healed. Is permanent.

[@bruceyoung565]

Cipro ruined my life for years and still affects my life everyday.

[@lindsaygraham9115]

I was on Xanax for ptsd and took cipro for a UTI on top of it. I suffered several neurological injuries. My mind is broken and I’m disabled from it.

[@bruceyoung565]

@ One of the few things that has helped me was going full carnivore. I tried keto for 5 years and it helped my migraine headaches, arthritis, and some of my stomach issues. It really didn’t help for the anxiety, the depression and the desire to get off the planet. When I went full carnivore six years ago, I stopped having migraine headaches. My arthritis is almost gone and I no longer have stomach issues. I still am battling anxiety and depression, but it’s manageable. I’m able to somewhat interact with other people on a limited basis. I’m trying to find someone who’s recovered from Cipro and what did they do? I hope you do not give up, try eating carnivore, it will stop a lot of inflammation in your body and brain. This might get you back on your feet .

[@lindsaygraham9115]

@ I may go carnivore and see what happens. I have damage from Cipro and Xanax. 😢

[@bruceyoung565]

@ It has really helped me back to living life. I still have nerve pain and some anxiety, but at a very livable level

[@bruceyoung565]

@ The good part I never go hungry. You might lose too much weight at first. The fat in eating carnivore will keep you satisfied and in about 1 month lose most of your cravings .

[@NarrelleChain]

My digestive symptoms are so bad I can't eat or drink, I am worried out of my mind, because I have so little energy and am so thin and depleted, I feel I will die but I can't get any help, can't sleep, I took overdose at Christmas, definitely neurological damage, this is terrifying, it seems there is no hope, my nerves are very bad! I have been having diet drink but now can't tolerate that either!🎉

[@carolinereynolds3238]

Mind scrambled; yes. 😢

[@andressoriano447]

I wish it’s easy to stay of meds. I have said no to ssri for 24 years despite anxiety and panic. Though I take valiums as needed. Recently I have been taking Valium maybe 4 times a week because I really need sleep because I workout daily and I just want to have a decent sleep. But if it were up to me I will stay off it.

[@justmadeit2]

Do you know what’s causing your sleep problems? I also struggle with sleep and it’s horrible

[@Nancy-x8r]

I feel so bad for her. I was very outgoing and could talk to anybody and then I had an antibiotic injury and now I have social anxiety. The antibiotics messed up my intestines and mercury built up in my brain. I was blind for a few months too. Now I can see but I have to wear sunglasses....which helps me but people don't like it.

[@parmenides2576]

Does this guy ever give recommendations on what to do for anxiety instead of drugs? I am convinced the drugs are terrible, but we still need a solution

[@giglaberozashvili9726]

მეც მაინტერესბს.👍

[@carolkopp7642]

I watched one of his recent videos where he talked about diet. Not sure which one it was but it's shouldn't be too hard to find. Worth a listen!

[@giglaberozashvili9726]

მე ვსვავ ვალიუმს არაყოველდღე. არასტაბილურად.ხან 10 მგ.ხან 20 მგ.ხან 40 მგ.ისე რომ თვეში 30 აბი 10 მილიგრამიანი ვალიუმი მესაჭიროება.დაკლებას ვახერხებ 2 კვირით 0,5 მგ.მდე მაგრამ მერე ვეღაე უძლებ.ესეიგი ჩემი საჭირო დოზა 10 მგ.დღეში ? როგორ ანგარიშდება ?

[@aprilhassell1747]

Did she go up doses over the years she was on it? It is true if you go back on its never the same and side effects show up.

[@fionamainey7686]

I reduced my HRT from 2mg per day back down to 1mg which resulted in crippling anxiety. Due to drop in hormones hence I have been put onto a different HRT. One that won't result in breast soreness.

[@fionamainey7686]

P.s. GP says anxiety is a common symptom for women in peri menopause or menopause. So is tinnitus.

[@cebruthius]

I really wonder how these people (with the reported sleep issues) show up on a sleep study. High CAP index? Alpha-delta sleep? Lowered arousal threshold wrt. breathing resistance?

[@naomimara3340]

That's what I wonder, too. I have a sleep study in 2 months, and Im worried if my anxiety and hipervigilance from benzo withdrawal will make me unable to sleep or even somehow make results false negative. 😔

[@cebruthius]

@@naomimara3340 I know all about false negatives, I have UARS.

[@lululove6175]

How much do you have to pay to work with Nicole??

[@evelynthorne8847]

120 30 min shes awesome

[@sugansugan56]

Would high fat high protein diet help?

[@blackrose8643]

I'm planning to try this for the next three weeks. I'll come back here to let you know. I'm on SNRIs btw

[@korenna123]

What an unsympathetic husband but very typical of the majority of friends and families

[@Christina-t1b]

That's too much of a coincidence...The part about staying in the recliner 24/7 - including sleeping there! And the tinnitus and burning feet PLUS the morning low blood sugar and dehydration delirium!

[@mattkolb3626]

What can i do for neuropathy

[@mobilezeronine2866]

Trying to reach out but without sucess, reach out over r.e.d.d.i.t, anti psy community

[@mobilezeronine2866]

Reddit, anti psy, ask there, censoring here

[@MrPeterISABELLA]

I had severe neuropathy with lorazapam withdrawal.. .. I took Metagenics products for neuropathy and it went away. I never had neuropathy in my life until lorazapam withdrawal. It went away.

[@AlexM-jd2ro]

Could it be that Cipro affected your kidneys causing AKI kidney injury, it is well known that antibiotics harm kidneys..But, in combination with benzos, it is an explosive mixture..My other question - why would doctor keep prescribing you Valium for 20 years? If I am right, it started as a pain control after surgery, but what about the rest of the time? It seems to me like an example of gross medical negligence, if not malpractice. Did you try to sue them ?

[@giglaberozashvili9726]

ამდენი გაუთავებელი ბენზო ისტორიების მოყოლა რას ემსახურება ? გამოსავალი რა არის როგორ დავაღწიოთ ნარკოტიკს თავი ? სისტემას ზომბი რობოტები უნდა.

[@incognito595]

If you love someone, you don't criticize their suffering!

[@dianecleary1054]

I didn't know is a rediculous attitude . I am bipolar and am always doing research . Every thing can be found on you tube or google . You have to fight for your life ie your health . Never hand your body over to medics with out double checking every thing . If your so ill that you can't well just pray .

[@AlbaLynxQueen]

Wow. The husband is very insensitive 😂

[@Lola_Roboto]

Extremely

[@lindsaygraham9115]

He’s terrible! I wish he could spend a few days in her shoes. Thanking God for my loving and supportive husband!

[@AlbaLynxQueen]

Yes. He just has no idea about her suffering and that she can't control it, she can't reduce the symptoms no matter what she does. It really makes me appreciate my husband more. He listens to me patiently every day. Thank God.

[@recynd77]

I’ve been on both sides. Being the caregiver is somehow even worse. Give the man some grace.

[@carolynw45]

@@recynd77 Totally poor bugger needs a break, he’s a victim of her addiction! He needs group support too! maybe narcotics anonymous! He’s listening to her stuff 24/7 and has nowhere to go😢

[@kassi4837]

Sounds like a cipro injury and a withdrawal injury.

[@Jewell55737]

Can't even form a thought let alone put 2 thoughts together for many many months

[@rhiannaloft3158]

16:31 this is me 😢

[@jespermaintz8993]

So basically "How Cipro Destroyed A Top Realtor's Career" - along with a stupid doctor. That woman should never have tapered benzo's.

[@deeprollingriver52]

She’s on her husband’s last nerve. Their marriage is in big trouble

[@debbiewatermelon]

The mornings have to do with fasting and detoxing, while daytime you are eating preventing detox transitioning. start juicing in the am. fruit will desolve poisons.

[@MrPeterISABELLA]

This is the most delusional statement......ppl with Benzodiazepines Brain injury have brain damage .. A juice does not help. Lol....I am currently coming out of it. I am a degree naturopath. Telling someone to have a juice and it'll heal a brain injury is like throwing shit in these ppls face. This is the most horrific thing anyone cam go threw

[@deeprollingriver52]

No.

[@Chrisw2226]

❤

[@neurohacking_xyz]

Not like, it is brain damage.

[@laurynrose1111]

We need to hold big Pharma Responsible

[@AsukaSoryu-yk4lr]

I think the slow taper is necessary,there is no need to say no to all the drugs….but somehow,everyone forgot that the importance of slow taper,every official medical guidance doesn’t mention this.This is the main source of so many agony.

[@AsukaSoryu-yk4lr]

Maybe people who been prescribes benzos have already been seen as “insane””mental illness patients” by the society,when they gone through withdrawal symptoms,I guess even themselves will believe that “I’m insane,it’s my original symptoms”.

[@AsukaSoryu-yk4lr]

Then,they will accept many mental illness diagnosis,or go to detoxification facilities submissively.

[@davidevans8691]

Jay's had enough

[@sterneis1]

the fcku is, you almost dont feel valium, it just makes you a bit calmer and plus its described by a doctor. not a scachy dealer at the corner. than you get off and you realize oh sht oh sht oh sht.

[@LindaLord-nr9pr]

Is that brain fog ? Also , was it the meds or the jab ? Valium has been used for decades .

[@cyndigooch1162]

That's exactly right and valium has been causing huge issues for decades as well, hence why psychiatrists and doctors don't prescribe it as much as they used to. 😥

[@dindin1960]

SO SO get what Evelyn is describing. These medications are HELL!

[@cyndijoylee]

I am so sorry this is happening to you. Methylene Blue ma be helpful?

[@sugansugan56]

Cipro made me depressed

[@Dobermanmomma]

5 or 6 martinis and valium a day sounds like an addiction problem.

[@karliann1]

She said herself she's seeing an addiction doctor. Also I didn't hear her say that daily she was drinking that much. They were talking about party situations

[@mattkolb3626]

Im way worse in the mornings.

[@materiais10]

Only mild stuff everyone knows about. One benzo dose i took after finishing a symptom free slow taper triggered severe disabling withdrawl going on for a year now, i'm unrecognizable and lost everything. These so called med damage wise doctors are clueless about this possibility and these interviews are only about common mild Issues where people can give interviews and talk and walk normally.