How Ventress is ALIVE (Death Retconned) BAD BATCH SEASON 3 Explained

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[@Sunstar808]

Very cool to see Ventress return. She’s powerful. Some people forget she used to regularly battle Anakin and Obi Wan together.

[@j4ze114]

She was my favorite character half the time in clone wars lol

[@toastedtarts4044]

@@j4ze114she was one of my favorites too. I thought that would be the last time to see her in the clone wars series

[@cloudmaster182]

That is actually a good point. She could handle the 2 of them alone for at least the first few seasons lol

[@Unxvailable-l-_IS_A_NONCE]

She has such potential

[@Michael-bn1oi]

Though she is *considerably* weaker than either of them.

[@daltonflores72]

I think it’s safe to say no inquisitor could stand against Ventress alone. She’s taken on anakin and obi wan by herself for a decent chunk of time. She took out luminara with ease. She even fought dooku for a bit by herself. It would probably take Vader himself to take her on.

[@Vodaclall]

Yup

[@willisstillhere8846]

Ok come on, let's not get ahead of ourselves. She is powerful, but some of those are exaggerated. For example, Anakin and Obi Wan have both been shown to be competent enough to take them on their own multiple times. Like Anakin did on Kamino Secondly, Luminara was blind in one eye while fighting. And they were still equal in combat and only lost when Ventress trapped her underneath some large pipes. Even Ahsoka was able to take Ventress on in a fight Thirdly, I'm not sure lasting only 10 seconds against Dooku is as much of an achievement. Go watch the fight again if you dont believe me. It is only 10 seconds. Savage lasted longer than she did. She is powerful, but not anywhere near any of the people you called. I think the Grand Inquisitor is the only darksider other than Vader and Sidious that can take her on. He is powerful when not facing plot-armor

[@daltonflores72]

@@willisstillhere8846 Ventress beat Grevious who killed multiple Jedi. You also can’t down play her defeat of Luminara being blinded. When Ventress was the one who blinded her. Yes anakin and obi wan have shown to be able to take her on by themselves but the fact that she can hold both of them off at the same time is ridiculous. Only Dooku was shown to be able to do that. Yes Ashoka fought her twice but both times she was outclassed. You can’t tell me the grand inquisitor is a match for her when the dude struggled against Kanan.

[@lordescanor8232]

@@willisstillhere8846 lets not forget that ventress was called by palpatine becoming more powerful making him dooku command to kill her, now that really speaks volumes...if the events played out like in the book just with her not dying, ventress may be more powerful now with having a better understanding of the force, now lets face it, the inquisitors wont be send to hunt her down first this is a time where vader peronal hunts down all the remaining jedis! If we take everything in, ventress is more powerful than the average jedi, probably more now with her peace, now that is the perfect match for the current vader, the clones and empire will see her as a jedi, it will be reported to vader who will take care of her vader appearance at the end would truly fit in this series, as showing us the most wicked vesion of vader yet finishing ventress and possible letting the crew escape if even possible, obviously those are theorys, but i dont see anyone being able to take on ventress other than vader and palps right now.

[@erikhopkins9548]

Yes she might be able to best him as the reason Dooku was told to kill her was Sidious saw her power and felt if she and Dooku went against him he would lose. So that should hint how powerful she is.

[@pacboy7673]

Disney bringing back Ventress: I am altering the cannon, pray that I do not alter it any further.

[@gameco5162]

Pray that they do, maybe they might alter the cannon of one particular sequrl trilogy that isnt very enjoyed

[@GregAndBeth]

My thought exsactly @@gameco5162

[@KENNYBIGBOWMAN]

@@gameco5162yeah and make Finn the Jedi With training under Luke

[@gameco5162]

@@KENNYBIGBOWMAN thats not a fiction anyone wants

[@user-bean-ys8uz9fz4x]

@@KENNYBIGBOWMAN and have the big 3 surviving the entire trilogy and giving them a happy ending

[@djnavarro3212]

I will not be surprised if we see Ventress earn the respect of the Bad Batch and Rex’s clone troopers resistance. But I just hope we see Master Vos again

[@Bibben]

Perhaps the two of them have lived in exile together. Vos probably left Kashyyk and then moved to the planet we see her being on in the show. Perhaps Vos is off world when she meets the bad batch.

[@BrianLamar-es3my]

It time for vos to learn that his lover is still alive they should have realize they can't kill her I think her redemption starts here

[@erikhopkins9548]

I also want to see them together I never believed she died in the book as others survived stronger force lightning and for far longer as well as no need to put her in a stasis pod if she is dead. I want to have them show her and Vos some place maybe as part of the path together.

[@GeneralKenobi10]

or maybe well get to see flashbacks of them together?

[@arbknight12]

Me: “Wait. What happened to her red lightsabers?” < Barriss coughs loudly > Me: “Ohhhhhhh. I remember what happened….”

[@donaterdosi618]

lol

[@Myndfuxx]

Ha

[@xanatoselite6078]

Everytime i make a compliment! I never get one like! It cool tho! 😂😂😂😂

[@swigmcale7555]

Do we even have an official answer on what became of Barriss Offee? It can't be as simple as she was killed in her prison cell when Order 66 was executed.

[@jacklyncraywood]

Seeing Ventress with one yellow light saber is one of the coolest things ever she’s got one of the most unique designs throughout all Star Wars

[@jasonwinstonjr8601]

Honestly if they handle this well it might be next level. I like to think there's a possibility that she goes from fighting the clones to fighting with the clones for the same reason. It would make some sense if not a good arc/run in might be interesting if they handle the story correctly.

[@Kidblurr02]

Faaaaaact! However, I think that Disney is setting up an all Female flop again. There are 3 main Force Sensitive females now. Reva Savander, Ventris, and Ashoka. They're Ronan.

[@jasonwinstonjr8601]

@@Kidblurr02 Well considering that Reva is still a kid and a Inquisitor this early on I can say she's ruled out until 9BBY, Ashoka well she's hiding in tales of the Jedi atm. I mean maybe we see her join organa this season but I think Ventress might be the first Female badass who dosent flop she may not be better than her CW or DD counterparts but like I said if handled correctly by Dave I think it could work.

[@Crocthunder]

Brad Rau, supervising director and one of the executive producers of the series. “We don't want to spoil anything, but want fans to know that any new storytelling with Ventress will align with the events of Star Wars: Dark Disciple.”

[@cloudmaster182]

Yea the only thing that really seems to change is her death. Which, that's a pretty big deal, but it's only one thing. Everything else in the book can be the same. "It wasn't death just a REALLY deep sleep"

[@theunknownuser9609]

What a bunch of bullshit and what a way to ruin a beautiful catahrtic moment. It should be a flashback@@cloudmaster182

[@GeneralKenobi10]

so will they remake the book do you think

[@Bandorn]

@@cloudmaster182 She was buried in the waters of the Nightsisters, on Dathomir. It’s probably just Nightsister magic.

[@cloudmaster182]

@Bandorn yeaaa see that's not even far fetched tbh, nightsisters are known for coming back from the dead I get why ppl are tired of dead characters coming back. But this one seems like it actually could've been planned ahead. (I don't think it actually was, but that's almost too convenient, if it does end up being the explanation)

[@ChrisHaar]

The Dark Disciple really made her a character you could like.

[@outlaw0987654321]

I always had issues with ventress being killed off in a novel. She deserves to be on a tv show. She stonewalled anikin and obi wan several times, sometimes together, she isn't a character that should be killed off in a novel no matter how well it's written.

[@Michael-yg9xl]

I fully agree I really wish they didn’t take the comic series from legends where it’s pretty much the same story, but Quinlan and love with a criminal, and instead, they inserted ventures for the canon version

[@tvvistedv3nom26]

Well if they take from Legends we’ll probably see Vader kill her

[@GalvatronStudios]

I knew Ventress would return and I’m so glad she did.

[@viniciuscardoso8056]

So Dark disciple never was canon

[@GalvatronStudios]

@@viniciuscardoso8056 I guess it's Legends now or something idk

[@entityunknown732]

​@@viniciuscardoso8056 No I'm pretty sure it's canon. If I remember correctly, there was a glow or something around her burial site at the end of the story.

[@nicklibby3784]

​@@GalvatronStudios Disney has already said it is still canon and that "we want the fans to know that her story in Bad Batch will align with her story in Dark Disciple".

[@GalvatronStudios]

@@nicklibby3784 but that doesn’t make sense because you’d have to explain how Dooku comes back from the dead to kill her

[@burneyboys02]

I am shocked to see Ventress return but I can't wait to see what she'll in this final season.

[@lordescanor8232]

vader has work to do

[@burneyboys02]

@@lordescanor8232 he's probably busy finding Obi Wan and dealing with the Death Star.

[@pkmsmith87]

They ran out of idea's 😂😂😂

[@carlosT3000]

Or ran into ideas

[@KonradvonHotzendorf]

😂😂😂

[@sleeper.simulant7327]

What wrong with Ventress showing up? I personally hoped they would jump into her post clone wars/early empire…

[@KonradvonHotzendorf]

Sad but true 😢

[@redshot5403]

@@sleeper.simulant7327it’s just that it changed what we thought happened to ventress

[@jacobwalker3060]

Disney is on a termite infested stump at this point

[@dreadrath]

Part of me kind of just hopes Dooku had a last second change of heart and left her alive, kind of like how he wasn't able to kill Obi Wan despite Sidious's orders.

[@erenbaltaci5191]

I agree Dooku sparing Ventress will also add another layer to their Master-Apprentice relationship while fleshing out the characters more imo. We were shown in TOTJ that Dooku was a more complex character, him doing that will also support that narrative since CW Dooku is just comically evil. Perhaps that will also give us a conflicted Ventress and allow us to delve into her thoughts.

[@aaronschaefer1978]

I don't understand why Lucasfilm is going to make "canon books" just to go completely against them and retcon them in the future. They did it with the ahsoka novel and now this, it's almost exactly like the sequel trilogy and they have absolutely no plan

[@Rhino-Prime]

Simple Disney

[@barometricfunk]

0:48 I wonder if they’ll follow the theme of The Bad Batch and that this is a Ventress clone. It would fit the storyline perfectly, IMO, and maybe be part of the whole “cloning Force ability” we saw in TROS and Mando Season 3.

[@RobinSwede]

If she survives this season I’d like to see her meet Merrin

[@gideonwoods8834]

Her death was written very well. I hope they don't screw this up.

[@JakeGottfriedStudios]

I'll be honest I forgot she died. How did she again?

[@viniciuscardoso8056]

Never was canon, we are in Disney era, nothing is canon

[@theunknownuser9609]

Only way they don't screw is if it's a flashback

[@viniciuscardoso8056]

@@theunknownuser9609 so Disney did good in retconned kanan hq, ahsoka or dooku books? Obviously is retcon, Disney isnt good in canon

[@gideonwoods8834]

@@JakeGottfriedStudios She died by count Dooku's force lighting and her body was taken to Dathomir by Vos in the comics.

[@okamireader5]

I was saddened by Asajj Ventress's noble sacrifice in _The Dark Disciple_ and miffed that we didn't get to see it play out in the _Clone Wars_ animated series... but now I'm glad we didn't, becuz now we get to see her return in _The Bad Batch_ and what a return it will surely be! Judging by the faces of Fennec Shand and Cad Bane, I have a feeling the remaining members of the Bad Batch (Hunter, Wrecker, and possibly Echo) will turn to recruiting bounty hunters in their desperate bid to rescue Omega (and perhaps Crosshair as well) from the clutches of the Empire. Ventress's appearance in the trailer indicates she is restraining herself from killing someone, but they are trying her patience. She is either facing off against Storm Troopers, or perhaps even the Bad Batch, who may be persistently trying to recruit Ventress becuz she alone would be a major asset in their goal of rescuing their sister and brother. I noticed Ventress's yellow lightsaber... is not exactly the same as the one presented in _The Dark Disciple_ (that one was apparently instead given to Maul to combine with the remaining half of his original saber to reform a saber-staff in his fateful duel with Ahsoka). No, Ventress's yellow saber appears to have a curved hilt of some kind, or at least a curve on its pommel. This sorta makes sense, since Ventress trained under Dooku to use sabers with curved hilts, like his own. So perhaps Ventress managed to acquire this new saber on the black market, as she tinkered with it to better suit her, as well as to make it more her own. If the Batch really is recruiting bounty hunters, I even wonder... if perhaps they might encounter Boba Fett. I doubt Boba would be willing to work with clones, even the likes of the Bad Batch, but I wonder how Boba would feel to know... that he has a sister? Boba aka Alpha and Omega are (supposedly )the only unaltered clones of their template and "father" Jango Fett (which Omega likely being an even purer replication Jango since female is the default gender of a human unless a fetus is infused with enuff androgens to result in a male infant). For that matter, is it possible we may see or at least get a hint regarding Quinlan Vos due to his and Ventress's bond from _The Dark Disciple_ book? Regardless, if Ventress is exposed, she will absolutely have a target on her back, one I fear Vader may personally deal with since no inquisitor would stand a chance against Asajj Ventress. I really hope Ventress isn't killed in this; it'd be a total waste of a comeback and an insult to her character and her history. I hope Ventress will be around a while longer after _The Bad Batch_ is over. I love the idea of her turning out to be something akin to what Ahsoka has become, a... Jedi Ronin, as it were. While that's still not an official thing in SW, it'd be a perfect addition to the lore, and I can absolutely see Asajj being a Jedi Ronin, going her own way, doing her own thing, following her own path and how it has led her away from the pain and suffering she's endured towards something better... the Light Side of the Force.

[@lordescanor8232]

Then in the end vader arrives and finishs the circle, by killing ventress!

[@2003zq8]

Vader making a cameo appearance in this final season would be a cool.

[@grandinquizitor7412]

I'm so glad she's back and with the hairstyle I like.

[@OldHenryLee]

I feel like her role might be similar to the novel. Maybe sacrifice herself for the greater good whilst freeing Omega? If it ends up as being a minimal role, it'll mean that they're saving her for something else down the line. Either way, that trailer looked GREAT 🤠

[@watsupdoc]

So does that mean Mother Talzin is alive aswell? Would Son of Dathomir be retconned? Talzin and Maul bringing Savage back to life (knowing disney, no one dies by light saber) and building Crimson dawn?

[@Gufupandi09th13]

Not talzin she no lightsaber wielder

[@darylsdesigns6679]

Sees the thumbnail Me: “Wait…what?”

[@grimthehaunter1330]

Ventress lives Fandom: how how how is she alive no I don't tell me she got stabbed and she lived from it

[@arisuaozora]

In the disney world, yes. People are surviving lightsaber stabs.

[@grimthehaunter1330]

@@arisuaozora I'm going to get soon enough that all the characters are just going to be immune to lightsabers and then we're just going to move on to swords

[@Galactic_caveman]

Dude, I’m really looking forward to the possibility of more ventress merch! Especially a hot toys 1/6 figure of her new outfit!!! One of my favorite characters!

[@xanatoselite6078]

Never stop for amazing me! How i really don’t know how you get all this information so soon

[@aster4jaden]

Remember how they axed the EU to make a more cohesive Universe? Funny how that turned out.

[@Artorion]

Right

[@GalvatronStudios]

Because Disney doesn’t believe many people read books or comics when it comes to Star Wars. So they retcon them.

[@Artorion]

@@GalvatronStudios And their the biggest assholes for it.

[@nicklibby3784]

​@@GalvatronStudios Ventress did fake her death in the EU - legends though. She literally faked died in Obi Wans arms, using a sith technique to slow down her heart rate and then using a dark side power to enter in a hibernation healing trance that looks like death - even to a jedi. After ventress faked her death, obi wan put her "body" on a Republic medical cruiser. Then ventress awoke from her dark side healing trance, took over the ship, and escaped. Maybe Disney is just trying to copy the old legends EU stories of ventress faking her death 🙄

[@Rypanda1]

There was No Retcon. read the offical Disney Post.

[@lextonwilliams2627]

Wow i didn’t see this coming i hope this season is good

[@sethbieber5127]

Last year i met the woman who voices asajj, and she is so sweet and eccentric :) shes a proffessional poker player also! Shes a really cool person, in person!!

[@MnDakota37]

You got a very rare chance to see her, she almost never goes to conventions

[@sethbieber5127]

@MnDakota37 really! She was going to appear, then dropped out cause she had a poker tournament. But that fell through, so she's like, hey can I still join the voices against cancer convention? So she was there for just like 2 hours. It was Ian's last last convention he will go to. Also called Anthony Daniel's Ian by accident and cause I was in shocked, so he had to wear a "I am not ian" sticky note the whole day, lol, his wife was also lovely.

[@MnDakota37]

@@sethbieber5127 that's awesome! You had an even rarer chance then! She also voiced the main character in Dead Space Downfall!

[@ninomitchell2039]

If anything, I'm just happy to see ventress alive. She was a personal favorite of mine during the clone wars, and could be a good foil to our heroes, especially if she meets Echo and/or Rex again.

[@jeffcordova9633]

I was screaming as I saw her Appear on screen Her character goes back with my to my childhood with anakin in the clone wars 2003 series on Yavin 4

[@funnature8679]

This is massive. Ventress and Obi-wan Kenobi dynamic is really interesting and often really funny. Ventress is capable of grabbing Obi-wan kenobi with telekinesis, when she she feels something that elevates her(something that makes someone feel a upsurge of great waves of relaxation, or makes her feel more vibrant than dubstep music, or the invincibility power-up music from some platformer games).

[@dans5662]

I think we all wanted to see assajj, maul, and savage all team up and do the crimson dawn thing

[@MatthewHWise]

Bad Batch's writing is well executed and I don't have any doubt that story of Ventress will not compromise her character. Although this is speculation it could be possible for her and the Emperor to go one on one sacrificing herself to save the Bad Batch even if that means she has to sacrifice herself. It would be interesting to see a battle between Dooku's apprentice and the Emperor, but we'll see what happens once the episodes come out.

[@cambuxton6835]

Welcome back Ventress . I missed you so much.

[@marshalllatta2073]

AM so Happy Ventress is still alive l miss her so much can't wait to see her back in action

[@jed_5124]

Dave filoni try not to retcon everything challenge (IMPOSSIBLE)

[@_BenJaminCroft_]

It could be a flashback of some sort. Because we were first introduced to the Bad Batch during the Clone Wars and they even fought along side Anakin too. So it is possible that the Bad Batch ran into Asajj before her death.

[@MrBone-qv5tz]

I’m assuming she was brought back through some Nightsister voodoo. I’m glad to see her again regardless.

[@rockybalboa1653]

Yeah, what if Merrin from Fallen Order found her body and brought her back?

[@nickshug7671]

All the nightsisters were destroyed by the separatists

[@nicklibby3784]

​@@nickshug7671 no, it is well established in Canon that the nighstisters exist even beyond the primary galaxy that we know of in star wars. Plus mother talzin has been up to stuff after the clone wars ended - but she's more of an entity and she could be dead dead this time. My point is, it is established in the lore that the nightsisters exist beyond the primary galaxy. So there is tons of potential with them still. They are not extinct.

[@Automaton2337]

​@@nickshug7671no Morgan is still alive and most likely resurrected her to bring more night sisters into the Galaxy.

[@GeneralKenobi10]

speaking of which how did morgan survive without merrin knowing bc as far as we know, she thinks that she is the only survivor@@Automaton2337

[@TheLegendofQ]

She could have been reborn on Dathomir

[@milocorrigan7128]

Grevious wiped out all the night sisters though

[@Redjack10]

@@milocorrigan7128 I mean we know that’s not the case.

[@nicklibby3784]

​@@milocorrigan7128 the canon lore has well established that the nightsisters exist beyond the primary galaxy we know of in star wars. The night sisters are one of the most ancient force wielders we know of. They are certainly not extinct yet.

[@DarksideGmss0513]

​@@milocorrigan7128 did you watch Ahsoka? The night sisters are very much still alive.

[@sagebaker6426]

@@DarksideGmss0513in a different galaxy. So unless you’re talking about the nightsister in jedi survivor, they’re all dead

[@phoenixgaming20]

I’m not surprised the comics and books have always been seen by Dave as true from a certain point of view until he gets around to it on screen

[@kermi4]

NOOOOOOOO Her death 💀 was soooooo sad 😢 and I wouldn't change a thing.

[@corndizzle25]

They already said her death isn’t being retconned everything in the novels and her death will still be cannon

[@mijimonmaster]

Here's something to think about. It's stated that Ventress is buried on Dathomir. Now that Grand Admiral Thrawn is on Dathomir with three night witch mothers as per Ahsoka series, will we be seeing a zombie Ventress?

[@lamborghinimercy5737]

If they kill her and give her a meaningful death, I hope we don’t see her again personally.

[@TheWall3003]

Nice, i hope they make a live action series of her

[@user-qp2jp7zb6l]

Just had a force vision that I hope comes true but all I can say is I hope this is a sort of Easter egg for a show with her and quinlan vos and the underground passage

[@dianesinger9729]

I can't wait to see what role Ventress will play I loved her character she was so sassy and misunderstood

[@themutualfriend5286]

Im glad shes back and i wish we get to see Quinlan Voss.

[@kingshadow8782]

Woah!

[@scottmarchand2646]

im ngl that book was nothing short of amazing and her end was absolutely beautiful and so fitting , i hope they do her justice and im going to be honest , I hope her and Quinlan Vos are a thing in this new future

[@colethelin9203]

What an interesting Story of Ventress The Star Wars Stupendous Wave.

[@BRaNMcFebail]

On the 1 hand, I'm kinda sad they did away with her orginal passing. Loved that arc. On the other hand, I luv her character - one of my favs - so I'm thrilled to see her back in action. Would love to see her in live-sction, too :)

[@DeoAlong]

Man, i loved the Dark Disciple.

[@somehowpalpatinereturned-ig9qb]

"Somehow Ventress returned" - Someone, probably

[@djmoonbass]

It's so good to see her! She looks healthy and strong.

[@PhoenixDawnX77]

Filoni retconns everything. I'm very glad to see Ventress still alive, but he never should've killed her. She should have set up a bounty hunting agency with Ashoka. I loved their chemistry.

[@justinfarnell2284]

Filoni stuffs up another great character yet again!

[@thegamerboneless2864]

I love ventress, and happy she is back.

[@anthonyp6896]

I really like this think Ventress was one of my favorite characters

[@Trujones]

Oh boy theres gonna be ALLOOOOOOT of Asajj costplay at the comic cons 😅

[@Idkidkidk716]

Yay can’t wait I’m obsessed with the clone troopers

[@CojaGamez]

Ok ngl usually I hate retcons but we really need more ventress

[@bodycount450]

Havent seen this mentioned much, but before the Disney cannon Ventress "died" originally after redeeming herself somewhat and helping the Jedi, telling Obi-wan with her dying breath to "defend Coruscant." She however used a healing trance and faked her death and used the opportunity to escape the war, the Jedi and, the Sith. This part of her story was retconned by the Dark Disciple novel. So would this not then be a return to her original story?

[@DIONYSUS5378]

I've always liked Ventresse. Nice to know she's still alive and leaning towards the light 👍🏾

[@nickiana4759]

I hope they make it so that the explanation of her survival has to do with nightsister magic. It would make her death in dark disciple canon but it would make sense of her return and the nightsister lore is also very interesting to see again

[@shermanpeaslee658]

Her death isn’t retconned. There’s an article on Twitter explaining the whole thing

[@guybunchofnumbers123]

Link?

[@GalvatronStudios]

Clearly, they didn’t read Dark Disciple because it's blatantly obvious that the whole story takes place roughly 6 months before ROTS. Bad Batch season 3 literally takes place way after the rise of the Empire. The book was retconned.

[@nicklibby3784]

​@@GalvatronStudios why do you keep posting spamming about the timeline as if that makes it impossible for ventress to be alive therefore the book must be retconned? You do realize that in the canon & legends lore it is well established that the nightsisters and Dathomirian force magic has many abilities revolving around life, death and rejuvenation right? We've seen examples of the nightsisters Magicks & force abilities rejuvenate people, revive people, raise undead people. Etc. etc. And the Dark Disciples book *_explicitly_* states that the pool Ventress' body was laid to rest in was infused with Dathomirian force power, the spirits of nightsisters & Magicks. Also, the book says the pool glows at the end. It seems REALLY *_OBVIOUS_* that she is going to be revived or rejuvenated by the Dathomirian force power & nighsister spirits & magicks infused into the pool that she was laid to rest in. OR she will have faked her death as she did in the EU - legends version of ventress. Or she will be clones. All 3 of those options make MUCH MORE SENSE compared to your logic of: Disney retconned something without realizing it, even though they specifically said they did not retcon it and the story will align with the books building off it rather than contradicting it. So that must mean Disney just did not read the book, and said they didn't retcon it without checking first, for no reason. Your logic has no reason behind it. Whereas the 3 possibilities I listed have tons of reason behind it. Use your brain bro. They can obviously, easily, bring ventress back without reconning the book. Reviving her, faking her death like in Legends - EU, or cloning her. Those are the 3 clear options. Almost everyone thought Ezra Bridger was dead and that he sacrificed his own life to save his friends & home, just like his own master Kanan sacrificed his own life to save his friends. But as the Ashoka TV show showed us, it turns out Ezra Bridger actually survived his stunt in the rebels finale. Almost everyone thought Darth Maul was dead in episode 1. But he was brought back in the clone wars TV show. Your logic right now implies you also believe Disney retconned Episode 1 the phantom menace because in the Solo movie Darth maul appears - which takes place AFTER the clone wars, and in episode 1 it shows maul dies BEFORE the clone wars starts. Just because maul survived and appears in the Solo movie which takes place after episode 1 does not mean they retconned Episode 1......this is your logic. Like you can't comprehend people can be revived, rejuvenated, fake their death, or be clones - which has all been shown to be possible in canon in this universe.

[@GalvatronStudios]

@@nicklibby3784 you should write a book because that's a lot of words you could’ve just summarized into one paragraph, not a whole essay.

[@Rypanda1]

You Truly Suck. Your the issue with the fanbase, cry over stuff you have no idea about then yell in a comment section like anyone gives A SHIT. Get A Life. Im tired of stupid fans ruining star wars. it was a trailer. we will see how it will play out. @@GalvatronStudios

[@phantom115cw]

Remember Quinlan vos was mentioned on Obi-wan kenobi bi-wan kenobi show.

[@chuckrothans7535]

I'm very surprised to see ventress alive especially considering that the book star wars Dark Disciple which was supposed to have been made into a 3 part episode in clone wars, an she died in the novel. I was honestly hoping that they would make Dark Disciple into an animated story, like perhaps in a new season of tales of the jedi. I'm sad that the book is no longer Canon, but I'm still happy to see her return.

[@tenacious10s85]

I see this making its way into ahsoka kinda weird that asajj comes back all of a sudden as they introduced the nightsisters into the show we may actually see a live action venturess 😊

[@darthsidious1158]

Vader: The apprentice lives. If he appears alongside Sidious. And somehow they BOTH meet Ventress, my ass is launching off the coach and into space.

[@edwinalawrence7650]

I cant beleive it shes back!at last

[@DarksideGmss0513]

On the official website for this trailer they said the book is still canon and they are sticking to that. So this could either be a flashback or possibly a clone of Ventress

[@Darth-vade123]

They nerfed Vader to let obi wan beat him I'm not surprised

[@emanuelrodriguez9044]

He lost to Obi-wan in the prequel trilogy as well. It wasn’t just in the Obi-wan show.

[@Darth-vade123]

@@emanuelrodriguez9044 it makes sense cause Anakin was being arrogant which led to his defeat

[@Darth-vade123]

@@emanuelrodriguez9044 but in Kenobi it makes no sense as Vader literally minutes earlier killed Kenobi's ass

[@emanuelrodriguez9044]

@@Darth-vade123 What do mean minutes earlier? Vader doesn’t kill Obi-wan till the original trilogy.

[@Rypanda1]

BRUH. vader was also leting his emotions get in the way of his judgment. vader isnt All Powerful. stop finding stupid ways to attack shows @@Darth-vade123

[@dremias]

I always liked her character. One of my favorite moments is when she got uppity with Master Yoda.

[@fearthepiggaming2998]

MY GIRL IS BACK!!!!!

[@GuardianKyle]

I'm down to see Ventress transition from animation to live action. That is if she survives season 3 of Bad Batch.

[@BinksTheSith]

PLEASE NO they will figure out how to make it shit

[@jimalexander687]

I am sick to death of retconning. I didn't like it when Marvel said Phoenix wasn't Jean Grey. I wouldn't even go see episode IX when I heard Palpatine was back. Now, this destroys one of the best story arcs of TCW (albeit never finished in film, great in novelization). I content myself with the DVDs, comic books and novels of Star Wars which were actually good. Disney can take a running leap if they think I'm going to consume any of the garbage they're throwing at us now.

[@Fledor.]

Someone might already have written it, but Nightsister Magick can be used for resurrection and maybe this is why she was able to return?

[@kingshadow8782]

Heck Yeah!,,

[@RaphBlade7]

I imagine both Sidious & Vader would want Ventress eliminated due to their history with her (Vader seeing her as someone who could potentially replace him were Palpatine to reconsider eliminating her as with Dooku gone, he might view her as a replacement for Vader or elect to have her become an Inquistor)! Palpatine however might decide she is too dangerous to let live especially with Maul still alive (both had a connection with Mother Taozin and both have a common enemy in Sidious & the Empire, as well as both have a history working within the criminal underworld!

[@lordescanor8232]

I dont think palpatine would think of recruiting ventress, especially atfer their history, she was never considered as an apprentice, at this point she is just meat for vader, in this case vader will arrive and finish her she is also to powerful to be an inquisitor and the history and knowledge of hers will make both vader and palps want her death, for vader she is someone who knows anakin and fought, another puzzle piece that he has to destroy!

[@user-bean-ys8uz9fz4x]

ventress would never join sidious

[@user-bean-ys8uz9fz4x]

@@lordescanor8232 but maybe vader and sidious are never going to find out that she is alive

[@elliotgreen2279]

I'm so happy we finally get somewhat of an ending to ventress's story arc, but I have a feeling we may get her to face off against Darth studious briefly

[@BinksTheSith]

Then she'll die

[@elliotgreen2279]

@@BinksTheSith maybe....

[@ebonykitsune5031]

That story better play out here in the Bad Batch. The timing is right in my opinion, I’d love to see her sad love story play out. Ventress is my favorite Star Wars character 💕

[@gameco5162]

Ventress's return is super exciting

[@themasteroffear2041]

I think Vos might be the one appearing in the bad batch and her appearance are flashbacks he has

[@Cirex2118]

I would love to see her meet Ahsoka again in the future somehow at some point.

[@matthewsands3591]

The constant retcons and resurrections are ridiculous.

[@Michael-yg9xl]

Honestly, I’m glad that they change this. They took Voss’s story from legends change the woman he was in love with to be a Ventress. And kind of zombied, the storyline between Voss and Duku and his lover,

[@TheFukkles]

Interesting... That lightsaber hilt appears to be Count Dooku's (or at least constructed to be similar). It's also curious that she's not sporting a red blade, indicating either her stance in the force has changed or she simply chose not to bleed another crystal.

[@lamborghinimercy5737]

The last time we saw her in the clone wars she already seemed like she was heading for a change so I wouldn’t be surprised.

[@disneyboy3030]

Actually the director said they do have an explanation that won't counterdict Dark Deciple. It probably has something to do with the Water of Life she was laid to rest in reviving her.

[@soularprimestudios5930]

Comic nerds are gonna really hate Faloni for this....

[@yonghunoh354]

I’m positive that Dubey will make sure Ventress dies to some blaster bolt from a character we never even heard of

[@customsforthekid]

I wouldn't go as far as using the word "retconned" considering she was laid to rest in the Nightsisters "Water of Life" pool. The book ends with a wink wink hinting she could return because of this. The Book left the door open for her return. That is the same water that restored Maul.

[@wernercedillo8797]

I hope it was more of a resurrection story vs scrapping the old story

[@kinglionheart450]

Well I wonder where the bad batch is going to end up since they're not in Rebels or anything else in the future of Star Wars what would be a cool ending for me personally and I think for a lot of Vader fans if Darth Vader's call to destroy the bad batch along with asajj Ventress

[@swaggyg247]

I would like to see Maul vs Ventress

[@mdrake36]

Very cool ventress is alive i like to see and asoka team up and fight. palpertine

[@keybladegames_real]

"Eh we already broke canon sooo fuck it let's retcon more things" edit: imagine she's gonna have cybernetics in her gut like that one bounty hunter to explain how she survived edit 2: they may have retconned it but might keep the book version somewhat alive. I wouldnt be surprised if she got her own show, met Vos (who is still alive) and ends up helping him, falling in love and basically recreating that plot from the novel. What happens to her I dont know since Dooku isnt around but im sure they'll be running from the empire.

[@JADub87]

I'm happy to see her return but if I was a SW book reader, I'd be pissed...it seems like they always change the book material.

[@sisbrolife8183]

Wouldn’t be surprised if they ran out of ideas