How Vivec Defeated the Dwemer - 36 Lessons of Vivec EXPLAINED - Sermon 3 - Elder Scrolls

[@DrewmoraYT]

Sanity Level: Struggling

[@Im-Not-a-Dog]

Hang in there, bud. Stepping up and helming your own channel is gunna vastly up your workload. And lets face it, you're not exactly tackling a clear and simple subject with topics like the 36 Lessons. This is gunna take effort, but we know you can do it.

[@mancitypj]

We are behind you 100%

[@thepopemichael]

You should consider putting these in a playlist. It'll put more eyes on the videos AND make them easier to watch.

[@Mary_Beth_Reimer]

Go visit Sanguine for a few hours!

[@MrHanderson91]

Something tells me that may be embellishing his origin story a little.

[@Camelworks]

May your sanity survive this series ❤

[@dragonrykr]

Spoiler alert: It didn't

[@Im-Not-a-Dog]

Drewmora; Come for the Lore, Stay for the Milk Fingers.

[@kingdavey90]

Delicious milk fingers 😋

[@herewardthewake13]

Isn't it insane how a video game has birthed a world and lore that in my opinion stands equal with some of the best fantasies written. So well written you get sucked as its a real history. Even the inconsistencies are written as its a scholars interpretation and not to be fully believed. Fucking love it. Love your work gets me through my day

[@BandenIndarys]

Morrowind lore is both familiar and unique at the same time. It borrows elements from past myths and fictions, but presents it in a way that is it's own unique myth. In a way it continued where Daggerfall left off. The secret of who built Great Numidium, it's original purpose before Tiber Septim used it to conquer Tamiel, how the tribunal became gods and so on.

[@msb539]

Although it's fiction, I am more interested in the elder scrolls god's than those of the real world.

[@MikeTooleK9S]

its a box of toys. your brain brings it to life. THE MAGIC OF MORROWIND IS THE GAMERS DREAM

[@BandenIndarys]

@@MikeTooleK9S Couldn't explain it better myself. The godhead of Morrowind is the player themselves living their dream world through the various heros of Tamrielic legend. Only thing missing are plumbers and shyguys. ;)

[@Schwitzmaul]

A shame bethesda games rott dekline and killed all in more redcons. Same with fallout. Good fight loot and explore games. But no rpg anymore.

[@Xolcm]

Reman Cyrodiil: *born from the earth itself when his father made love to a hill* Drew: This obviously wasn't meant literally. Vivec: *this video* Drew: Seems legit.

[@justme0910]

I understood the "We must misinterpret this" line as referring to the Dwemer trying to rationalize what has happened and come up with a "logical" explanation for something that defies the very logic they hold so dear. Basically resorting to pseudoscience (interpreting the evidence in a way that fits a predetermined conclusion rather than following the evidence wherever it leads) to explain a supernatural miracle.

[@leonardcsapo416]

Please continue this series

[@jeremykelker8908]

I think the line "We must go and misinterpret this" is meant as a slam on the Dwemer and their wisdom. I take it when the Dwemer says "Nothing is of any use" that they are saying it rather moronically; he's knocking them. It's similar to when Vivec stares in Sermon 5 "the Dwemer in their haste built [the Simulacrum] shoddily' which is something we know the Dwemer didn't do: shoddy work. It's an insult or a sneer.

[@DevinDTV]

i also think it's likely that the line was meant to mock the dwemer, not something they really said. "quick, let's go be idiots!" basically

[@ddewcifer]

I wish you’d continue this series

[@jalongraves3353]

Drew just casually dropping "dwemer technology is fueled by the life blood of Lorkan" like its no big deal! *mind blown*

[@RealMeditativeGaming2023]

I really hope you do Sermon 4 soon!

[@fabiansw8]

It would be awesome if you could continue this series! Its really cool for someone whos only Morrowind is ESO. You could put multiple lessons per video

[@realzachfluke1]

Reading, studying, and absorbing these lessons, which is definitely an in-progress & bit by bit thing that happens over time (and only after repeated listenings or readings) regarding the absorbing part, for the first time has changed my life. I have Drewmora to thank for providing the spark, the spark of interest that soon became a burning fire of passionate dedication, and I'm grateful for it. He couldn't have known the effect his 36 lessons videos would, or even could have on anyone out there, a fact that further reinforces the power of it. Sermon 4 is +everything+ to me hahaha

[@DrewmoraYT]

I appreciate you, mate. The lore is vast, and my channel exploring it is still in its infancy. More lessons will come, but right now I'm in the grip of another 2+ hour leviathan. Support like yours is what lets me keep doing this. Cheers, Zach.

[@amyduncancinder]

Mr. Drew, I still love to hear your "telling" of the things we've all read (and, speaking for myself alone) never understood. With your help, things become a little clearer. For that, I thank you sincerely.

[@NOHTenma]

3rd Sermon, and I've just Zero Summed for the weekend 😔 I'm gonna need the next one. I'm going to achieve Chim, the next go round, I swear!

[@gerbenvanegmond4007]

I'm starting to really feel these sermons. Epic video Drew

[@Nayphun]

I love the subtle jokes you lace your videos with. So good

[@willlowtree]

PLEASE MORE IM BEGGING AND SHAKING AND CRYING thanks for the video

[@Awesomewithaz]

You hate to see Drew give up because he realized you can't stretch out 20 minutes for every single lesson. Not enough resources

[@CrimsonKLake]

I just wanna say thank you for delving into Vivec and his story, it’s always nice to get an outside perspective in the things we don’t understand

[@BaronVonKenny]

I think the "misinterpret this" thing is, like Vehk's insistence the Dwemer don't know love, simply his disdain for Dwemer culture shining through in his writings.

[@VLarraechea]

Oh yes, more of Drew embarking on more 36 Lessons shenanigans. This should be extremely interesting. Never tire of listening to all this. Dunmer literally have the best lore in TES.

[@RoyalMudcrab]

I have always loved Vivec's lines about love. And you explained them beautifully, Drew.

[@cammyshill3099]

I'd love to see this continued.

[@East16]

Bros sanity was so fucking destroyed he stopped making them

[@Whayles]

Yes Drew! These are so great to listen to in the background or watching directly, the visuals are great. I usually listen while walking the dogs, house work, tedious jobs and playing Skyrim! I like listen while exploring or grinding in Skyrim, it’s like channelling the elder scrolls universe

[@tonraqg]

Drew, where are the rest of it? I can't keep going without you! 😢 imma zero sum like this

[@msb539]

I think Heimskr 's teaching is more my wavelength. AYE... LOVE! TALOS THE UNASSAILABLE.

[@sirreginaldfishingtonxvii6149]

"Nothing is of any use, we must go and misinterpret this" is a fantastic, and also kinda funny quote.

[@kisamano3684]

Can't wait for Sermon #4 !! This was a beautiful experience

[@bluelacie1204]

My current interpretation of "Nothing is of any use. We must go and misinterpret this." is as follows: When faced with "nothing" aka not getting any answers while probing our minds and the external world for the TRUTH of everything (whatever that is or if it even exists), humans tend to "misinterpret" rather than have nothing. Because you can take nothing and make anything out of it (if that makes sense) thus nothing can be of "any use". So in a very funny, sarcastic way, I feel as though the Dwemere are being self-aware and breaking the fourth wall here. Misquote: "We've got nothing. So let's go ahead, take the info, and twist it however we want." Listening to a lot of Elder Scrolls lore, I've started to see the Dwemer like a big metaphor for humanity's search for meaning through science. So when faced with something that is beyond their comprehension or interpretation through scientific means, they go ahead and try to interpret the info through that same limited lens anyway. Vivec's egg could be a metaphor of the TRUTH, or everyhing that exists/its source, and meaning. It was mentioned somewhere that Vivec wanted to be everyhing all at once: all genders, races, species, etc. This is just a possible interpretation. I went ahead and misinterpreted. ;)

[@nicolasnamed]

Holy shit I didn't even see the notification it just appeared under my fingers from a random tap on my phone! Seems it's my destiny to watch this video RIGHT NOW

[@WarlockCD]

this is hands down the best reading of these lessons, both actual reading and interpretation

[@burnedbread4691]

Continue this series, please. I'm desperate

[@zetsumi4160]

It's important to keep in mind the context the 36 sermons are written in. I don't feel lines like 'we must go and misinterpret this' should be taken as things the dwemer literally said. This is a parable vivec is presenting to his people. He is showing that the dwemer ignore that which they cannot explain, and search for ways to logically interpret it rather than accepting it.

[@feyfolken1655]

Yeah, I've always just taken that part as a snarky jab at the dwemer.

[@zetsumi4160]

@@feyfolken1655 Out-of-universe it probably is. In-universe it's probably more intended as tribunal propaganda, considering they stole their divinity from the heart of Lorkhan using methods devised by the dwemer, it'd make sense they wanna portray the dwemer to their people as 'unenlightened' and discourage people from learning too much about them.

[@feyfolken1655]

@@zetsumi4160 exactly

[@DavetheNord]

Brilliant video sir!

[@silverkleptofox]

3 down 34 to go. I’ve got the alarm bell on for this playlist

[@JayPeG._]

Thank you for the content you make Drew. I love watching your stuff and how in depth it goes. Most lore channels are not nearly this engaging. You have a special talent for this my man, I’m always eagerly awaiting your next video to drop, keep it up!

[@carolynr570]

Brilliantly written!!

[@mancitypj]

I love listening to you Drew. Thankyou so much.

[@realzachfluke1]

Alright now that we've hit 3, this finally feels real to me. Like...we're actually doing this, guys. Drew's _REALLY_ taking us on this spiritual journey. I wouldn't want it any other way, and there's no other group of people I'd be more honored to share in the enlightenment of these sermons with than all of you, here in our budding lil community 🤜🤛😎 Edit: 19:08 lol the sass

[@MvRcscIsM]

Thank you King, you're a true scholar.

[@XnecromungerX]

I watched this the first time for the lore, clicked replay for the life lessons and philosophy. I bow in thanks.

[@Raphentei]

8:44 : I first misheard as "toe nail magic"

[@regrettablemuffin9186]

Are there going to be more of these? I really love them but I see that it’s been three months since this one. Hopefully you’ll keep going with them!

[@patron8597]

It's been a year and you still got 33 Lesson to go. You'll nevermake it in the Tribunal Temple like this!

[@Kucoz]

These are very interesting philosophical things to talk about. Im learning so much. Cant wait for the other lessons

[@Xs2865]

Drew please keep going with the lessons these videos are Godlike

[@organicketchup5171]

This was great. I lost track of all the interesting and creative concepts introduced.

[@axolotlonzo2683]

i swear to almsivi this is the best series on youtube

[@mister_anomaly]

Class is in session , thank you Drew

[@probablymisseshisoldglasses]

Yes, love it. Thanks for continuing with this fantastic journey, I’m really enjoying it.

[@savag3salad813]

More please!!!

[@macmusic3217]

Looking forward to lesson 4! I have to watch each episode twice to fully understand and I’m still kind lost lol

[@meditativegaming5925]

Can't wait for the next video, i'm gonna subscribe for this series!

[@aran.m977]

Done with my exam and now I can enjoy this

[@pitpotputpet]

18:12 "feelings don't care about your facts" - Vec Shapiro

[@Playaplaya18]

Outstanding work! When all the Lessons have been completed, might I dare to request you recite the poetic Edda for us? Lol I've never heard the full thing in its glory, and I'm sure you've got contacts somewhere in Oblivion with access to it's entirety.

[@oldmanodin3521]

Been patiently waiting for this!👍

[@finlay9616]

I love your content Drew, and honestly I'm learning so much about the Elder Scrolls Universe. I had no idea the Dunmer laid eggs... huh.... Maybe that's why they hate the Argonians so much. Different eggs.

[@MisterVarlet]

Are you doing more of the sermons?

[@crabbuckets7506]

Highlight of the week! Either this or the fact I managed to order a ps5 today haha.

[@kajetanmazurkiewicz5459]

I'm loving this so much!

[@jukuren2969]

Love this series

[@salti1976]

Oh man, you only made it through 3? I see your sanity level here but you're doing so great! I've really enjoyed the last 3. Have you checked out Rottendeadite's The New Whirling School? That might help. Some of your insights echo his, but some are really new and thoughtful. I would love to hear more on this series!

[@izenai3122]

Dwemer, incapable of love/lacking understanding of love... trying to use a Heart to create their god. Irony?

[@alanlay337]

keep these coming. love to here you explore such a wonderful part of the lore

[@Urgelt]

It is a conceit of poets that their art presents the highest of truths - and that truth and beauty are fused in their scribblings. Well. The beauty part is there. Great poetry is... great. Wonderful. Delightful. Strikes a nerve. Conveys deep meanings - layers and layers of deep meaning. I'm a fan. But the 'highest of truths' claim is a scam. Vivec knew it, too, and used it to his advantage when building his religion from scratch. Vivec presents his poetic 'lessons' to create for himself legitimacy that he did not earn. He was not a god in the womb but a mortal Chimer; he acquired godhood through an act of betrayal and murder and by using Kagranac's tools, as recommended by Sotha Sil, his conspirator. His powers were stolen - but one does not create a religion by admitting this, does one? It is the height of folly to take seriously Vivec's lessons, whose purpose is to justify his godhood to his worshipers, not to explain what actually happened. It's all poetic lies.

[@Chaosticks148]

Please finish this series

[@thenewwaydevil]

Love the content drew, u were the best part of Muppet

[@stevemitchell4663]

yah i definitely want more of this.

[@twilso12]

Why’d you stop these?

[@AGS363]

"Put down your ardent cutting-globes, Nbthld. Your Aldmeris has the correct words, but they cannot be properly misinterpreted." - Dwemer Comment in the Hanging Gardens of Wasten Coridale

[@waah5901]

Drew pls finish these videos my guy

[@Mary_Beth_Reimer]

Playing these again, because I need something saner than the real world. 💙

[@realtourdreams9655]

The netcherman’s wife could also be analogous to a Mary figure. Mary was blessed with perfection and salvation from birth as a result of her future duty of birthing the Son of God. Her pregnancy was protected from the arch-rival of the supreme angel Lucifer who could not bare that a human woman would be elevated to a role above his and be crowned the queen of Heaven. Jesus exercised love with His life by the ultimate example of lying it down for the world. He was also radical in preaching love in those days. Just something I noticed.

[@jeffreylebowski4556]

I love you, Drew. Edit: I've never gotten a heart comment from any content creator. Makes me feel all......warm and fuzzy 😁

[@ChristAliveForevermore]

I downloaded the Books mod on Skyrim PS4 version, which adds all of the old books from the previous games not included in Skyrim, including The 36 Lessons of Vivec. Then, I lined my Tundra Homestead with his Lessons and adopted some children. Now my children are constantly found reading in front of that bookshelf and I have to imagine in my mind that these little girls are gonna achieve CHIM before they're teenagers at the rate they're reading 😂

[@dukecesareborgiaofvalencia]

The Tribunal also took the idea of the living gods of Valenwood. A Bosmer Nerevarine would realize this.

[@Fuzzycuffsqt]

Oh good you're still doing it :)

[@jalongraves3353]

not mad at all that these vids are coming more frequently, not mad at all! keep churning out mindblowing content! I always enjoyed your vids the most on fudgemuppet, and am absolutely *stoked* to see you have your own channel now! great job!

[@dukecesareborgiaofvalencia]

A Redguard nerevarine would be interesting, I think he would join House Redoran because of the similar ideals they share with the Ansei. I think they would also kill Vivec, for everything Vivec stole from the Yokudans, put that in with all the lies Vivec has told about Yokuda and the Redguards. A Redguard Nerevarine would read the sermons and interpret it as Prince A'tor watching over him.

[@shahhaque5242]

the first sermon I had chimmed the second sermon I had zero zummed in this sermon I am about to chim again... what is this cycle of chimming and zero summing?

[@azadisoleil6319]

Sermon 3 and you don’t sound like you’ve gone insane yet, congratulations man!

[@TylerHellums]

I call bull, Vec!

[@alexbencic3044]

When is the next sermon?

[@_KillerD_]

What is a milk finger

[@lazilycatharticone4191]

*"You don't wanna know. TES Community, don't tell him. You shouldn't have told me, but you did, and now I'm telling you, you don't wanna know"* -Redguard mercenary, Words of Wisdom, Volume VI

[@the36lessons11]

@@lazilycatharticone4191 When a Hermaphroditic-Mortal-Made-God-Blessed-By-CHIM loves someone...

[@badluck5647]

They are what you get when you dunk your Oreos too deeply.

[@Super50ldier]

@@badluck5647 Lol

[@Super50ldier]

@@lazilycatharticone4191 Yeah, he doesn't want to know.

[@rijona7575]

I wish I could like a video a million times..

[@jakesmith5713]

Just an idea but could the sermons have been talk both about vivec and the heart of lorkhan

[@GrinningGameMaster]

Michael Kirkbride you doth set the bar high....

[@veldrensavoth7119]

Finally my DREW CANNEL

[@studcummings230]

Incredibly enjoyable

[@andrewpowell4184]

"Vivecs feelings didn't care about the dwarves facts"

[@snakebatch4527]

8:38 shoutout to the excellent @AllINAllmusic

[@adventuremontage5992]

Drew, formerly the most handsome member of fudgemuppet.

[@hipsnowsis7374]

drew i just wanna say thank you for this series, im currently facing a broken computer for the second time in 3 months that'll take 2 weeks to fix whilst I'm hopelessly hyperfixated on TES, and this is literally keeping me going at the moment

[@shawnnerenberg661]

Personally, I think Vivek was hoofing on skooma when he wrote the 36 lessons.

[@elvenatheart982]

Epic !!!!

[@QuestionableObject]

I guess he zero summed

[@krim7]

Great video!