How Walking Compares to Cardio

[@deanhenry4668]

I was a runner for 30 years, and I have arthritis in both my knees, bone on bone, I’m 62, and now I walk 45 to 60 minutes 5 to 6 days a week, my knees feel so much better as well as my body in general, no more pounding on my body.

[@MrCageCat]

I used to run, do mini marathons, up until my right hip started giving me issues. Now I walk as well the last couple of years.

[@TruthAngelx]

Absolutely

[@shivvashishthabhargava4600]

You got it. 💞💞❤

[@simonrankin9177]

Sounds good dean im now 61 i think ill take your advice

[@s9209122222]

How fast do you walk?

[@fb1473]

I have tried many forms of exercise in my over 50 years of living..the one exercise I feel I will always need in my life is walking.

[@timmyturtles9670]

Having dogs has been such a blessing for not only a handful of other things but walking them everyday reaching 10k steps a day is effortless. Its a win win for both me and my dogs it keeps them happy and keeps me stronger .

[@afrankiuk78]

Walking has really worked for me. I've gone from 263 lbs. to 195 lbs. over the past three years (I am 6' 1"). I've increased my strength during this time as well. I can relate to what is being said; for me walking works because it is SMART (Specific, Measurable, Achievable, Realistic, and Timely).

[@MAN9027]

did you lose muscle as well or did you just shed the extra fat

[@afrankiuk78]

@@MAN9027 I maintained my strength by doing daily pushups.

[@8255ariel1]

How long do you walk for??

[@i_am_wi11_]

I’m 6’0 started at 295 now at 266 and counting just lifting and walking.

[@skd]

Walking is great for fat loss. When you decide you want to lose weight and go on a deficit, walking makes that deficit easier. 5km/day on a treadmill walking on 5km/h with a low to medium incline will burn enough calories to squeeze in one more meal and feel full. This alone is enough to make fat loss sustainable. You are not hungry anymore because walking doesn't make you hungry and you still get to eat a lot and keep your deficit. I lost 40kg just by walking and eating healthy every day for 1 year and I feel great. Johnny Walker was right...

[@guitargeeknwa]

I'm astounded that people ask if walking is cardiovascular exercise. Seriously? People have been misled. A brisk 60-90 minute walk with hills and stairs included is fantastic cardiovascular exercise. Every runner I know has experienced chronic injuries to hips, knees, ankles, shins (me included). It's so hard on the body, yet so many people think they have to do it. I enjoy the topics you guys cover in the podcast. Thx and best regards

[@kodyramon]

Sure but even that gets easy and then people want to know how to push themselves harder. Myself included. I walk all day at work and go for a leisurely walk after work to wind down. None of this pushes my body at all. Walking is great exercise for many, but not for those who are already doing physical activity all day, every day lol

[@dianevancleave6484]

Agreed. Knowing how to increase your heart rate and respiratory rate is key.

[@hopefulforhumanity5625]

@@kodyramon That is an excellent point. In fact I have never heard anyone explain this more simply or clearly. Your point is that walking is very good for the body but if you are doing it every day it doesn't require anything special from the body because the body already adapted long ago. And if you want to see physique changes, you would need to add something different in.

[@AnthroGuitarist]

@@hopefulforhumanity5625 If you live near mountains then hiking up and down steep trails or even going off trail can add a massive challenge even if you are walking slowly. The terrain differences and obstacles force you to think and to adapt and overcome

[@sophiawoods6748]

We live in this modern bullshit of no pain no gain cultural mentality.

[@AnnnnnaQ]

I've been doing interval incline walking and I've dropped pounds faster than when I was running. Also previously after my runs, I was ravenously hungry like a wild bear....after the walks, I was only thirsty.

[@richJimZ888]

I ran from early 30's to age 59 and I was burned out and sore. Ran 5k, 10k and 1/2 marathons and then it wasn't fun any more. I walked and eventually walking 3-5 miles. I found a gym and dumb bells and what a game changer! I also swim 2-3x a week and I'm loving it all at age 65.

[@bjbrunetti]

Work out a few days a week and walk every day and you are set for life, for ever.....

[@evergreenthunder]

FOR-EV-VER 🙌⚾️

[@Santana_Art]

Perfect that’s what I’ve been up to the past few months.

[@a-terrible-fate532]

as simple as that.

[@Jabari10]

3 years later and this is still the greatest fitness advice

[@ienjoyapples]

I go for a short 5-10 min walk down the block every hour or so when I'm working at my desk. Doing this has been a game changer for my health, body comp and happiness. If you're sedentary all day you just feel like shit, and a long bout of exercise at the end of the day doesn't help much.

[@nymphinthewind]

anytime someone gets to walk is good. not everyone has your schedule

[@dianevancleave6484]

Cardio is anything that raises your heart rate and respiratory rate. As long as the cardiopulmonary system is being improved its cardio. So each individual persons fitness level determines what is cardio. Over weight and new to exercise walking is cardio.

[@SurfyStories]

Beating yo meat raises your heart but that ain cardio

[@shadesonsurfer]

if you beat your meat for 30 minutes and you get up to 50-60% of your max heart rate, it's cardio brother@@SurfyStories

[@ericg649]

Exactly: goals must be obtainable but life changes must be sustainable!

[@keywestfan2503]

Walking is the way and the truth. Best exercise hands down

[@berternie6181]

Ive never been in as good shape in my life as i was when i was doing two 45 mins of a walk twice a day and lifting 5 time a week

[@Stalker950-l3x]

Sounds good. You just have to manage your daily time properly to be able to do the things you mentioned.

[@Rara-pr9wg]

So true ppl tend to think running is better because its more exhausting but walking is the absolute best

[@funnygirlever]

I agree. I use to walk 6 days a week. I walked about 10 to 15 miles a week. I felt great and I looked healthy tone. I loss like 60lbs. It was definitely fat weight. I worked out 3 to 5 days a week. Anywhere from 30mins to 2 hours but it was light work outs. I'm working to get back to that lifestyle. Best feeling ever. Good luck to anyone who is wantin, lookingforward, and currently on that walking goals to making life better.

[@mr.b1613]

"Walking is the best medicine" - Hippocrates

[@arunavsrivastava1387]

Did he say so ?

[@foryourgloryministries9564]

It’s laughter. And the bible say so. A merry heart do good like a medicine

[@mounirjamaaoui9780]

Walking is a good start. Running needs preparation and time. Combining both is a blessing. Just don't overdo it

[@SSchithFoo]

Yeap, I know a guy who said he could run for like 5 hours continuously but now he has knee issues. Another one I know has hip fractures. Running sux and people back in the pre agricultural age only did it if they had to.

[@KJ-ym1qg]

4 10 min walks after meals will help keep blood sugar low.

[@MattDyke]

Golf. Carry the bag. Walk for 6, 9, 15 or 18 holes among the trees surrounded by nature. Good cardio for your heart rate and for your mind.

[@SiLoMixMaster]

True, but I used a push trolley with a heavy golf bag on it, saves lower back strain/pain. Lost 77lbs in a year along with diet and swimming a few times a week too.

[@Chubbylito11]

I feel better walking because i get to appreciate the view and something i look forward to unlike running which i used to dread. i still insert some short burst of run from time to time but at least i dont feel pressured to do so. walking and resistance training i learned to love

[@williamhauser3686]

In what world is walking NOT considered cardio? If you walk fast enough, especially on hilly terrain, it will get your heart rate up just like running, stepping or classes. It absolutely is cardio.

[@darylfields]

I walk 2.5 miles a night at a fast im overweight cancer survivor and i pneumonia kinda wrecked my lungs so working out isn't easy as it use to be

[@FIGHTCLUB25]

Keep it up. And have faith in God my brother.

[@pyellow08]

You got it bro! You’re already built different for being a cancer survivor! Just keep pushing and take it one day at time 💪🏾

[@morganrobert2826]

God bless

[@sfrealestatedealmaker6001]

Also 👉🏼 Eat LESS carbohydrates and MORE vegetables. 100% CHANGED my life for the better 💪🏼

[@thilyponce6426]

@@sfrealestatedealmaker6001 vegetables are carbohydrates...

[@pearl6038]

Totally. I don't drive. I rarely use public transport because I incorporate my exercise into the daily tasks I have to do. I wall a few kilometers a week carrying groceries etc and this counts as lifting. I'm very fit.

[@evergreenthunder]

Mike Tyson said he would walk for hours a day in addition to his training emulating great Roman warriors of the past. 🥊🥊🥊

[@JavaughnJPorter]

Really?

[@evergreenthunder]

@@JavaughnJPorter yerp. 100%.

[@evergreenthunder]

@@JavaughnJPorter the other example that comes to mind is all the damn golf Michael Jordan would play on top of his training. Like 18 holes a day sometimes.

[@geraldshields9035]

Well, at least 10,000 steps everyday. Yes, do Strength Training, and even some HIIT or/and cardio. But I try to get those "steps" in if I can.

[@lokerola]

Back in college I walked everywhere with my 10lb backpack full of books. I was rucking and walking without even knowing it! And that was the best shape I was ever in.

[@Lrussell6871]

If your lower back can handle it- rowing is also a great option for cardio I think a lot of people overlook

[@oldradio3092]

I love rowing! I call it the row row row your boats haha

[@oldman6536]

yes i turn on an audio book and row very enjoyable

[@TheInsaiyan]

I'm unable to row slow enough for it to be steady state cardio. For whatever reason, idk. If i do 2k after it I'm basically dead but a 5k or 10k row? Might as well just walk

[@Lrussell6871]

@@TheInsaiyan rowing is a combination of stroke rate and leg drive. If you’re interested I would suggest just slowing down your recovery. Walking is great if you’re just trynna burn calories, but as a rower, it’s what I enjoy lol

[@Mickc934]

​@@TheInsaiyanTurn the drag factor handle on the side to 5, slow down the stroke rate to between 18 and 22 but drive harder with your legs, 70% of your power should come from legs don't arm row as you'll tire faster aim for a stroke rate of 20 and you'll be able to go for an hour

[@dolphinsmadden]

You can make walking intense by increasing incline. I do most of my zone 2 by walking.

[@MindPumpShow]

💪

[@FitnessAtHomewithClintGrimes]

For cardio, I do Tabata intervals 3 days a week but I walk for at least 40 minutes every day. I love the combination especially using walking as a cooldown for both Tabata and for lifting.

[@Lieutenant-Dan]

Walking can definitely be cardio, especially if you make it a brisk walk with hills, your heart rate gets up there.

[@tylerandleahcanadian3888]

Mine used to get up there now I gotta like speed walk to get a heart rate I wonder if its needed or if I can still just walk

[@spitalhelles3380]

I love HIIT. best feeling ever

[@jerrythomas608]

A hummer is up there too!

[@a-terrible-fate532]

said no one ever

[@calebcicero7727]

I walk about an hour and a half a day I burn like 600 calories

[@a-terrible-fate532]

ive been doing some high intensity cardio for the bast 5 weeks or so and I am absolutely burned out of that crap, time to fall back to my daily steps and 3 times a week weight training 😤

[@Noneofyourbusiness-rq9jq]

Anytime your heart raises moving under your own steam is cardio.

[@christophermallett8166]

Running is necessary if your overall energy expenditure is not high each day. Sure if you have time in the day to walk for an hour or two then fine, running isn't necessary. But if you don't have the time, walking isn't going to burn the calories necessary to make up your lack of activity.

[@DEEZEEMTB]

I am extremely lucky that cycling became my passion in the late 1980’s. I am 60 and ride my mountain bike 3-4 times a week. Low impact and so much fun.

[@eyekandy3000]

Walking is cardiovascular exercise. I think some people feel that they have to walk longer distances and spend more time as it becomes easier, but you could also just walk faster pump your arms, hilly terrain, as long as your heart rate is where it’s supposed to be for moderate intensity activity you’re doing 150 minutes a week of that you’re doing pretty well for maintaining health. now weight loss is another story that might be more about calorie Restriction

[@keithw8286]

Hang on, I walk, on a 10 degree incline at 6kph for 30 minutes. I hit a heart rate of 170. I’m male, 62. That’s a workout, I’m drenched in sweat by the end of it. Not cardio?

[@giovannirojo28]

What about hiking because I am always climbing is it more of a workout ?

[@Perryspowerhousefitness]

Works the same!

[@joechurch78]

Does walking build stamina?

[@lumpeegrendel1636]

Started walking in Jan and do about 12-14 miles a day now. Was so out of shape that there was no other way to get started beside just MOVING. I've lost 45lbs since then by just keeping carbs low as well. It's been life changing. Problem is that it takes like 3-4 hours a day to walk that far, but I was sitting for that long either way before. I'm not going back!

[@715SuperMan]

What do you think about riding a bike? Does 10km a day do anything significant?

[@miatodorovska5924]

Its definitely beneficial

[@guitargeeknwa]

Better for the body than running thats for sure

[@BrianJHilliard]

Walking is cardio, because it’s a physical form of aerobic exercising.

[@austinblair9869]

I'm on this video because I pace around my yard like a full time job

[@stevewitt3697]

Walking is da bomb. We were designed to WALK!!

[@kamalahmed5057]

Not designed to run?

[@stevewitt3697]

@@kamalahmed5057 Running is great too, if you have the right body and place for it. The beach and XC are da bomb for jogging!

[@kamalahmed5057]

@@stevewitt3697 I agree in that the surface is important, but for those of us that live in cities with only the road, can the choice of running shoe not make up for the lack of “softer more cushioned” surfaces to run on? Also Whats an XC?

[@stevewitt3697]

@@kamalahmed5057 XC Stands for cross country. Like running in the woods or on dirt roads. I guess in the city a park might work? Good road shoes definitely help. Some folks jog on the track at their local high school.

[@tayzk5929]

What about weighted walking, like with a heavy backpack? Is that more efficient/healthier/ does it make you stronger? Is it bad for your back/posture or good for it?

[@klausmaccus4397]

I wouldn't do it. I used to ruck march like that all the time in the army and it takes a toll on your back and shoulders and probably the spine. Walking without extra weight is enough, just walk fast for like 30 - 60 minutes without stopping. It makes you feel great.

[@ThanosMahomes]

How many miles are we talking for a daily walk? Pretty much described how I like to look with the “healthy, lean” remark. I like to get 2-3 miles in, should I increase or decrease.

[@r.e.4640]

Power walking is the VERY BEST!!!

[@Wargwarn]

Also looks gay as fu....

[@a-terrible-fate532]

@@Wargwarn yeah I would be power walking early in the morning when it's dark and no one could see me there's no way in hell that I would power walk in public in front of other people.

[@fellowdanbarber3323]

Walking isn’t cardio if you’re not doing THOUSANDS of steps. It really is just walking.

[@NicholasWarnertheFirst]

As a 64 fat lad who used to be very fit I started walking and it has been revelatory.

[@carlosdmc5395]

Excellent comparison at the end "slow death"

[@nygiantschamps9340]

Yup ... including the hamster comment. so true

[@bbbt8090]

I tried to run 1.5miles every day 4-5 days a week for 2 months but my left heel started hurting on day 3-4 of each week. Now Im doing body strength training 3 times a week and running 1.5 miles twice a week

[@nardoharold7017]

I don’t do cardio. If you can see the lining of your abs don’t do cardio just walk. Don’t destroy your bone density by running everyday.

[@TheBuckMuscles]

Any athlete trying to use walking for cardio is making a huge mistake. I tried this for six months, at 15,000 steps a day. My cardio went into the gutter.

[@princearos]

Keeps cardiovascular system healthy but isn't cardio? What is cardio short for again?

[@tone3560]

Its not cardio but it keeps your cardiovascular system healthy...hmm that doesn't make sense

[@adritrace88]

He didn't want to explicitly disagree with him as it could have been sort of disrespectful

[@tone3560]

@@adritrace88 they need to define cardio then

[@emanlifts7888]

Exactly wtf🤣🤣

[@latreyork1266]

I walk 3 hrs a day way better then running and injuring yourself 🤟🏿

[@theakiwar9118]

Walking is Cardio medically speaking. If you walk at least 5-6 kph on hilly terrain. It keeps you healthy however isn’t suited for building up stamina

[@ZameerHJ]

Do we differentiate between walking and cardio as below or above the lactate threshold? So zone 2 training we put in the same category as walking here.

[@justinestes6400]

I give!! If I buy the full boat Crossrope package will I stop seeing their continuous adds?!?!?

[@Moonface00z]

So walking at 6km/h or cardio at 8.5 km/h better?

[@damnhomey26]

As a trainer these guys are well in tune and just know their shit 💯💯💯

[@mortenlarsen7220]

You say that yet they say walking does not count as carido, yet goes to say it keeps your cardio vascular system healthy.

[@jasonburdette6921]

Walking is great!

[@SSchithFoo]

People who can't run can do speed walking which gets your heart rate high like 160+. Try that and tell me it's not cardio.

[@MindPumpShow]

Absolutely.

[@aqua123670]

i run for the runner's high

[@anonymousraz0294]

Me too! I like runners high. I get runners high at 20 mins lol

[@gabrielalmeida6085]

I'm doing 3 days of workout and 2 days of football (soccer), for me as a skinny guy it's enough

[@onsenguy]

walking can be cardio if it's done right. I walk briskly, 4 mph, and include hills. my HR is really up there, even though I'm fit. steadystate for 80 mins is a great workout. Iost 30 lbs of fat and I've got frog legs.

[@thelarson1000]

Doesn’t aerobics utilize all body parts?

[@xaviersoto3978]

Walking is cardio though? Low/medium intense cardio doesn’t decrease muscle mass at all. Running decrease muscle mass though

[@xaviersoto3978]

@@Adam-nu9gu Cross country runners? Sprinters only run 2 -3 times a week. They are mostly in the gym weight lifting. This is wrong

[@Astrologcomedy]

Is 5 miles a day too much. I’m overweight strength training 5 days a week

[@sambland3903]

I'd recommend 3 but then again, I'm just some internet dude.

[@nygiantschamps9340]

sounds like it if its higher intense cardio. Depends on what ur goals are mainly cardiovascular or strength. if u want to be stronger mainly weight train and focus on ur metabolism . Our metaboilsms are the furnace for fat burning. You will be able to eat more cause u burn more . (clean calories mostly ) . We all underestimate the importance of REST.... Its when we recuperate . The constant need to do more is actually the opposite of what we really need to do. Ran way too many years was up and down in weight for decades. Wasn't sustainable. Also so much cardio made me eat way more than I should have. Pay attention to your hunger signals . All I do now is walk everywhere and on weight training days with a slight incline 20 or so minutes and I've been able to keep my weight stable while getting stronger.

[@hsteeves]

I work at home depot, (so interesting right lol) my job consists of lifting a ton of products, push loads of carts, I often average 20K steps each shift. I didn't know how much I weighed beforehand, but I have lost quite a bit of weight. In my thighs, around my stomach. In April of this year, I got 600K steps just from working. I understand that that's not an ideal number to but for most people unless they're walking constantly like I am, but walking definitely helps.

[@aleco678]

That job is tough hang in there used to work there

[@hsteeves]

@@aleco678 haha I'll try thanks, I have back problems every other week :(

[@SolitarySoldier]

Thoughts on HIIT for getting shredded? Before or after workouts for athletes that play baseball football and or basketball?

[@jerrythomas608]

Diet. Can out train a bad diet.

[@acdcbrody]

I enjoy cycling but I don’t enjoy weight lifting lol this is funny because how you’re talking about people and cardio is me and weightlifting. I’m strength training because I have to

[@MericaFurst]

The meathead who says walking isn't cardio is lumping all walking together. When I do 45-60 minutes at 3 MPH on a 5-degree incline, my heartrate and sweat let me know it's cardio. It's much more intense than the walking I do throughout the day.

[@jrudymorganclark2072]

I always was right when I used to go to the park with a group of people they start to run right away and when I see them running it's just ridiculous they way they were running all out of shape, me on the other hand I just started to walk.

[@stonitangawizi1252]

I power walk on the treadmill for 1hr twice a week then do full body workouts thrice.

[@ariannaswift1137]

If i want to gain max muscle and lose really low amount of fat how much cardio i need? .. I train strength training 3times a week, 2 times a week yoga/pilates, 1 day complete rest, 1 day cardio in gym with abs.. Should i walk everyday? Or it will be too much.. Plss help i am so fucking confused

[@trkddy]

Walk backwards as well

[@KetoJames]

How long should it take to walk 10k steps. I just started every morning and in 45min I'm at 6500. Guess I'm walking to slow?

[@dr.natashakhallouf6416]

It takes me about an hour and a half

[@gafrancisco]

I always belived in nature ... and nature made us to walk the plains of Africa for days tracking prey ... with small sprints. And humans evolved for millions of years doing this. So this is what i do.

[@barcaman1013]

Start with steady state then agter fatigue start walking

[@bccoleman8678]

0:44 everyone runs growing up no? Sports, school, play.

[@naomiblackerby6780]

Is Doug wearing a U-Dub hat? Doug RULES!

[@jaredhemingway6078]

I enjoy lifting weights and running. It tires me listening to strength trainers put down running like it’s bad. “We don’t grow up running” Bullshit, you didn’t play sports as a kid or run around the block with your friends? No we didn’t do long distance running. BUT, running is a skill, sound familiar? Trainers also like to preach about efficiency. Running is the most efficient form of cardio, not even debatable.

[@ithinkthereforeitalk935]

Yes, some of the points he is making are just plain ridiculous. Running has been a common form of aerobic activity for hundreds of thousands of years - evolutionarily our bodies are built in a way that allows us to run from dawn to dusk. And as you have mentioned earlier, as kids we can run effortlessly but when we grow up we tend to lead a sedentary lifestyle, develop severe muscle imbalances and simply forget what it means to be running. On top of that, modern running shoes exacerbate these problems allowing people to heel strike and internalize wrong movement patterns... As for walking, the guy saying that walking is not cardio just doesn't seem to understand what cardio really is. Walking is the purest form of cardio. It's the best way to actually lose weight as bodyfat melts away at a fairely low heart rate (115-130bpm) which can be easily maintained while... well, while walking.

[@stylezhiiipower]

Sick of hearing these pseudo trend methods for weak folk always looking for an easy route. Everyone would be lean and in shape if they just had to walk.

[@gm836]

Walking with a weighted vest any good?

[@mjg29x]

Yes

[@louise8737]

Walking is the best cardio - Sun Tzu, Art of War

[@JJ-ix4zr]

I’m training since I’m 13 now in 34yo 80kg I’m around 20% body fat 1,78 cms I started implementing cardio walking on inside treadmill at home fasted 7-8am and weight at 6-7 pm I’m leaner I lost around 4-6 kg but I also feel bigger bigger muscles , also my calves are growing ( I always split train twice a week legs ) both days I do calves but after I used treadmill this last two months I feel tigher calves and growing almost weekly I have been getting compliments lately 😅also upper body feels bigger it’s surprising for me due to my years training natural after 20+ years training you kinda stop gaining muscle that fast , compared to the first 5 years of training

[@dominicpurnell2899]

It’s funny you say that about running because I have ran across this with clients they don’t know how to run . Doing track in high school I didn’t realize during warm ups these were the mechanics to running

[@JRH6271]

10k in 45 minutes is at least jogging speed. That's like a 9 minute mile pace, normal people aren't walking that fast. 45 minutes of walking will net close to 4500-5000 steps, maybe a little more if your pace is faster, but definitely not 10k steps.

[@emmanuelalva6597]

I walk 7 miles daily for work. I can’t add cardio if I wanted to my legs can’t recover

[@Nuckabuc]

For the love of Glob man! Millionaire hoy stretches, he's got 30 and 60 minute videos, at least once a week or you're going to murder your hips and lower back, plus leave the rest of your leg muscles unhealthily hard as rocks

[@mightydook]

Walking with a weight vest ?

[@michalus09]

Weight vest has no legs...

[@mightydook]

@@michalus09 good one

[@adritrace88]

@@mightydook You could maybe use light ankle weights

[@mightydook]

@@adritrace88 good idea

[@user-dx5wt1hx9t]

Walking doesn't get you to zone 5 and doesn't work on your VO2Max, which is #1 important factor in your longevity

[@ZigZagXL]

I walk minimum 10000 steps to 20000

[@prayerblack]

I Walk 9 Miles A Day To Even Out Paul Saladino's Macros On My Caloric Load 🚶🏽 Testing If Metabolism Increases

[@stickyicky669]

10,000 steps in 40 minutes? I would have to sprint to get that. it takes me two 40 minute walks to get to 10,000 steps. 3:09

[@joshyrtt]

GO DAWGS

[@ericzellershow]

Totally true that most people run with poor form.

[@genreartwithjb5095]

My wife is a molecular geneticist and she says if you are going to do cardio the best cardio to do is walking

[@MindPumpShow]

Awesome!

[@ArmandoKozomara]

You need fucking cardio to be lean and shredded. I see too many dudes just lift and they look fat and out of shape and their body isn't as healthy as it could be if they played a sport and ran much more. But you also don't wanna be a classic skinny ass skeleton runner