You are correct in leasing the land. For your lease to be valid for 30 years you have to have the lease in your name. After you have the lease you have to go with the property owner to the local land office and have the 30 year lease registeted on the chanote, or deed. That would cover you for the land. Then to own the house you also need to have a right of superfices also put on the chanote, or deed to own the house. Only then are you completely covered and can't be thrown out. If there is a new owner in the future the new owner is legally required to honor the lease for the full duration. Also there is only a 30 year lease, renewals are not automatic. This is according to the Thai land act, section 540. The lease can be renewed again at the end but has to be agreed to by both parties and re-registered on the chanote, or deed.
@HereComeTheParkers3 ай бұрын
Thanks for your comment. We did everything you mentioned. That's why we used a lawyer whom we have been using for years.
@BraveFartz2 ай бұрын
But as I questioned before , what if the owner in 30 years does not want to renew the lease .? Do you lose your house which you were probably leaving to one of kids. Or will the owner offer you a ridiculous amount of money to buy your house , fully knowing that if he doesn't renew the lease then you have to move out and he can knock it down.
@oldthaiexpat2 ай бұрын
@@BraveFartz if you are worried about leaving a house to children you are in the wrong country. You should be living where you can own land, or seek Thai citizenship. As for the lease, if the owner doesn't want to renew then yes, you would have to either sell your house to him, remove it, or just desert it. If you are older and won't outlive the lease what does it matter?
@HereComeTheParkers2 ай бұрын
@@BraveFartz As far as we know at the end of 30 years they cannot sell the land and we cant sell the house. So the agreement is passed down to the respective families on both sides.
@classiquehairstyling16223 ай бұрын
Hey Parkers, I'm so thrilled others are starting to catch onto one of my favourite channels. Your down to earth approach to life and video creating is an absolute joy. Hopefully the new mattresses are more comfy than the AI generated ones that came with the house. Highlight of my day is seeing a new video pop up from your guys, many thanks 🤗
@HereComeTheParkers3 ай бұрын
Thank you for watching and commenting. You have been a great supporter of us and our channel and we genuinely appreciate it. The new mattresses are excellent!
@lynnbrooks55033 ай бұрын
Nice to see you all settled in your new house. It looks really nice and I hope you’re very happy there. I have found a reasonable rental on Soi 102 so I’m settled now as well.
@HereComeTheParkers3 ай бұрын
That's fantastic Lynn. Still hope to see you around at some stage.
@garycromie90923 ай бұрын
Thanks for the family background story, guys - very interesting indeed. When I watch your videos, I see two honest and authentic people who are sharing valuable insights into purchasing a house and retiring & living in Thailand. Your work is appreciated. As for the 'funny' comment, welcome to the weird and wonderful word of the 'comments section'. Have a wonderful day and keep up the good work!
@HereComeTheParkers3 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for your kind words.
@DianeCooper-y7q3 ай бұрын
Congratulations on your new home! Thank you for all the good information!
@HereComeTheParkers3 ай бұрын
Thank you and thanks for watching and commenting.
@Swimallsummer3 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing your house hunting and now purchase videos. Very useful information. 🙏
@HereComeTheParkers3 ай бұрын
Thank you and thanks for watching and commenting.
@tuckerdart3 ай бұрын
You are both so awesome..Loved your video, you both explain everything so well. I wish we were in a position to move to Thailand. Sounds wonderful.
@HereComeTheParkers3 ай бұрын
The crazies would love it ! Although it is very hot.
@Video-tu4vn3 ай бұрын
Congratulations and best wishes with your new home. I have been considering the same myself in retirement in a few years time. I would be highly unlikely to be around by the end of a 30 year lease so assuming I have a property there that is part of my estate, I wonder if it is sold with the remaining time on the lease eg, 10 years, in which case it would be less desirable to many purchasers, or does the lease get renegotiated for another 30 years. Have you had and discussions regarding this?
@HereComeTheParkers3 ай бұрын
Thank you for your comment. Please get your own Thai legal advice. We are not experts. Estate law in Thailand is something we know nothing about. Sorry, we are not qualified to comment on something as critically important as this. We have had no discussions with anyone on this matter because we don't care what happens after we die.
@Jon_the_Pom3 ай бұрын
Hey guys, first of all many congrats on the new house, looks amazing!!! Just wanted to apologise as I said I would take you guys out for a meal in April but we all got the dreaded tummy bug which lasted for many days for some of us. We are back in July next year and will defo see you then!
@HereComeTheParkers3 ай бұрын
No worries Jon. Nothing worse than getting sick on holidays !
@touchoflifeorg3 ай бұрын
Very useful video. Thank you ❤
@HereComeTheParkers3 ай бұрын
@susanlark23193 ай бұрын
Congratulations, it looks great.
@HereComeTheParkers3 ай бұрын
Thank you! Cheers!
@karllarsson44693 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing. I've appreciated your videos. I've lived in Phuket for 2½ years, but I'm getting sick and tired of it. Moving up to Hua Hin in October with my thai wife.
@HereComeTheParkers3 ай бұрын
It is so much quieter here that's for sure. Good luck with the move.
@karllarsson44693 ай бұрын
😊🙏
@PaulRLight3 ай бұрын
I lived in Karon for 18 months. I'm very happy to be out of there.😂
@domi95773 ай бұрын
I always laugh when I read about people complaining about busy phuket so moving hundreds of kilometres away. Most of Thalang District (which makes up the northern half of the island) is fairly quiet. Hua Hin is horrible every weekend when hundreds of thousands travel down from Bangkok
@hobo17043 ай бұрын
@@domi9577better than millions of Russians..
@Traveler-PKK2 ай бұрын
Rent your house out in your home country and us the funds to live in a nice house in Thailand. This is called opportunity cost! We are always tourist in Thailand. If they require medical insurance or screw with the O Visa your could have an issue in your latter years. If you got the money to spend no worries.. always have an exit plan ... we are only visitors. I know people who have spent most there life in Thailand with no worries, but always have an exit plan. Don't sell out in your home country - always have a soft or hard landing if you need to go back home!
@RicardoFernandes-v2f22 күн бұрын
Perfect advice 👌
@anthonycarney78499 күн бұрын
Very good to hear you both explain it I am irsh I hope to retire in 2yearsi want to retire in thiland the way I look at it is I will be 66if I get another 15years to live I won’t have to worry about the land I can’t take it with me 😊😊
@HereComeTheParkers6 күн бұрын
We said the same thing!😁
@All-THAIed-UpАй бұрын
Thanks for your VERY valuable info re buying. We (my Thai partner and I) have built a house in Ratchaburi province, way out in the sticks, but I love Cha Am and plan to rent something there because it's way cooler (temp). I own and live in Hervey Bay QLD but plan to live most of my life in Thailand. Question: I'm not able to find your email address? Sorry :(
@HereComeTheParkersАй бұрын
Thank you watching and commenting. Cha Am is a great spot as is Hua Hin. You can't access the email address if you're using a smartphone / iPad / tablet. You have to use a computer PC or Mac. This is a KZbin issue.
@sompobutama37613 ай бұрын
Hey Parkers congrats on your beautiful new home good size of land how far your house from CHA AM beach and local market look forward more videos of new homes have wonderful day thanks for sharing 🙏
@HereComeTheParkers2 ай бұрын
Thank you for taking the time to comment. Our house is approx 12 klms from the beach. We have a local 7/11 and hardware store 900 meters down the road. Also a little local restaurant which we are yet to try.
@paulannamaher9065Ай бұрын
I from Melbourne and have been married to a Thai lady who has been living in Australia for 16 years. She is an Australian citizen and does not under any circumstances want to return to Thailand to live permanently. Ironically I am 54 and would love to retire to live in Thailand in the next 5 years or so and being married to a Thai would make the process easier when it comes to owning land etc. Australia is getting way to expensive and our retirement would be much easier in Thailand.
@HereComeTheParkersАй бұрын
Perhaps you could try living here for six months and Australia for six months and your Thai wife may accept that?
@paulannamaher9065Ай бұрын
@@HereComeTheParkersYes that would be ideal but we have 2 cats and my adult daughter is happy to stay at our place to look after them. The issue is they are my wife’s babies and she doesn’t want to leave them for too long. As long as I can at least escape the Melbourne winters I will be happy.
@HereComeTheParkersАй бұрын
@@paulannamaher9065 Can understand that completely !
@desmcleod26043 ай бұрын
Thank guys love watching your vlogs real down to earth Lots of interesting information Carnt wait to get there in acouple months I hope you’re real people lol if you know what mean Nice to get some information how you got there 😀
@HereComeTheParkers3 ай бұрын
hahahaha thanks Des !
@CaledoniaScotland3 ай бұрын
Hi guys, great house, great video. One question - can you confirm what amount would be required to be paid at the 30 year point to extend the lease? Is it a nominal fixed payment agreed in advance, is it the same amount paid at the beginning, or is it some sort of market valued amount?
@HereComeTheParkers3 ай бұрын
Thank you for watching and commenting! It is not something we are concerning ourselves with because we will most likely not be in this world any more (90+ years old) when it comes around.
@BM-zj3hy3 ай бұрын
Im hearing you can own 10rai if you invest 40mil bht in thai government bonds. Thailand is open for business but to hi net worth individuals
@HereComeTheParkers3 ай бұрын
Thanks
@walailuckkreigsman68653 ай бұрын
Good to buy
@HereComeTheParkers3 ай бұрын
That's what we think too.
@EmodChannelClassics3 ай бұрын
Great house
@HereComeTheParkers3 ай бұрын
Thank you !
@HairyPixels3 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing. My only question is how freehold can become leasehold. If any Thai person can issue a lease then they're wouldn't be a difference. Property developers may be given some special rights or the entire property market would open to foreign ownership via leases. Is that you're understanding, that only certain properties can be leased?
@HereComeTheParkers3 ай бұрын
The entire property market is open to Thais and foreigners equally. Thais get to own the land the house sits on. Foreigners get to lease the land the house sits on (from a Thai person who owns the land). I guess there will be some sellers who do not wish to sell to foreigners but given that right now foreigners are the only ones with money and Thais are not buying it's not a great strategy. Remember we are only talking about the land here. There are no restrictions on foreigners owning the actual house.
@HairyPixels3 ай бұрын
@@HereComeTheParkers I guess you would need to ask the seller if they're willing to lease. It would be some extra work for them and I bet most Thai's never knew about leases. I've bought land recently but it's just in my Thai wives name so tied to the marriage and I bet I'm lucky to get even 50% if we split up. Never thought about leasing the land but I don't figure I could get away with that since i'm married. :)
@HereComeTheParkers3 ай бұрын
@@HairyPixels well given that under no circumstances can foreigners own land it would follow that any separation will mean she gets 100% of the land. The house will probably get split 50/50 but I'm only guessing.
@HairyPixels3 ай бұрын
@@HereComeTheParkers I think they give you 12 months to sell the property and split the profit. Not sure if that actually happens in practice though.
@steampunk8883 ай бұрын
@@HereComeTheParkersThat's because the "actual house" is a depreciating asset.
@Freedom-333 ай бұрын
What kind of guarantee do you have on that lease contract though? Say the owner of the land has a forced bankruptcy + liquidation. His bank can’t take that land from him? Your contract is protected from that? I get that it’s easy to setup the lease and purchase the home / pay for temporary use of the land but my biggest concern is over the lifetime of the lease, what are the potential ways it can be broken. None of those were covered
@HereComeTheParkers3 ай бұрын
If it happens we will be sure to let you know.
@oldthaiexpat3 ай бұрын
If the lease is registered on the chanote, or deed, the new owner is legally required to honor it.
@steampunk8883 ай бұрын
There is no way to do it like this without pissing away the money. Both the structure and the lease constantly lose value.
@Freedom-333 ай бұрын
@@steampunk888yea when I watched the video I actually did some napkin math on it. It ends up being twice as costly as renting when you add in home maintenance, repairs, insurance, etc over the 30 years. Plus you are locked into one specific location. Financially it absolutely doesn’t make sense but from a peace of mind perspective and if you don’t need the money, I can see why people would do it. My napkin math ~ Based on 3% inflation 7.6m / 30 years rent 21.2k/month which is starting from 12.5k which is equal to 4.5m initial price of house and land today 4.5m initial cost to buy house / 30 year lease land. Opportunity cost of that 4.5m at 3% is 10.9m over 30 years Renting saves 3m thb over 30 years. That 3m compounded at 3% is 5.13 million (doesn’t include extra costs of owning a house, savings are likely 7-8million over 30 year renting vs owning Average home owning cost per month is 30.2k (owner needs to cover insurance, taxes, repairs, upgrades Average rental cost is 21.2k (renter pays no additional fees)
@oldthaiexpat3 ай бұрын
@@steampunk888 lose value in what way? They get the lease on the land for 30 years. They also own the structure and can do as they wish with it. I would think if you do the math it turns out far less expensive then renting and the person on the lease has full LEGAL protection for 30 years. They can't be evicted. How is this "pissing money away"?
@zedbou50403 ай бұрын
How much will the lease renewal cost? These things are rarely done without a charge. For the more unscrupulous landlords in the west, it's an opportunity, and if the renewal charge is deemed over the top by the lessee, then it's arbitration time.
@HereComeTheParkers3 ай бұрын
We are not going to concern ourselves with something that may happen after we die. Couldn't care less. Life too short.
@urquhmc3 ай бұрын
Foreigners can buy freehold "property" such as condominiums (up to 49% of condo building/project) and houses but not the land on which it sits, in Thailand. There are some very, very, very rare exceptions to this. Recently, the Land Department proposed to allow legitimate foreign heirs of landholders to inherit land. And depending on some investment schemes, foreigners can hold up to 1 rai of land for residential use or 10 rais for agricultural purposes. There are quite a few places in "Western" countries where lease-holding is common. The UK is a prime example; huge parts of London is held by trusts controlled by the Duke of Westminster owning the land on which houses, stores and businesses, that he does not own, are built. In any transaction, consult a licensed and reputable real estate lawyer. Creating Thai companies, using Thai nominee shareholders to own 51% of the company, can be considered illegal. Phuket is now (June 2024) cracking down on this activity, as lots of illicit activities are happening with these companies owned by foreigners using the nominee shareholders to circumvent the law. I suspect this scrutiny will move across the country soon, as land prices have increased dramatically.
@brendankelly86063 ай бұрын
You can own land if it’s worth more then 40 million baht and only 1 rai in size
@HereComeTheParkers3 ай бұрын
Thanks.
@martinwicky3 ай бұрын
Hi do you pay ever 30 years what the land wealth to the land holder thank martin
@HereComeTheParkers2 ай бұрын
No you pay up front.
@BraveFartz2 ай бұрын
What would happen if in 30 years you wished to renew the lease for another 30 years but the owner chooses not to renew and wishes to use the land for his family or relatives or sell the land , what would happen to your house then ? As far as I know legally you are covered for the 30 years but that is the end of that agreement.
@HereComeTheParkers2 ай бұрын
Well we won't be here in 30 years. But we can renew it for our kids. If you are younger than us we suggest that you consult a lawyer. Thai laws change all the time so who knows what will go on.
How can you sell the house? I think you can not sell it.
@HereComeTheParkers3 ай бұрын
We did not buy it for an investment.
@granti46283 ай бұрын
Hi, I’m trying to find your email address but am having difficulty finding it. I’ve looked under the “about” section of your homepage but I can’t see it anywhere. Can you please point me in the right direction. Thanks.
@HereComeTheParkers3 ай бұрын
The “About” section is only available if you access the channel on a desktop computer or laptop. It is not available on a smartphone or tablet. It’s a KZbin thing. I don’t know why it’s that way.
@granti46283 ай бұрын
Oh ok. Thanks for that. That explains why I couldn’t find it haha
@HereComeTheParkers3 ай бұрын
@@granti4628 that problem trips everyone up. I wish it wasn't like that, but this is KZbin! I should have mentioned the problem on camera.
@steampunk8883 ай бұрын
The land is the part that retains value. The structure loses value constantly. All Thailand would have to do to safely encourage wealthy foreigners to come to Thailand is: 1. Restrict ownership to 2 or 3 provinces only, likely the tourist zones. 2. Impose large inheritance and transfer taxes on foreign owned property, which is generally how to insure that landed property is sold on the death of the owner, i.e., in order to pay the tax.
@Traveler-PKK2 ай бұрын
Hey... keep this on the down low... it could be on the next tax law that comes out, if it get out.
@Thestathamfamily3 ай бұрын
Hi there I’ve looked for your email address on your page I can’t see it I have a few questions about your new property
@HereComeTheParkers3 ай бұрын
You can’t see the “About” button when using a smartphone or tablet. You have to use a laptop or desktop computer PC or Mac.
@tylertippenАй бұрын
Couldnt fine your email. Please advise
@HereComeTheParkersАй бұрын
You can't see the "About" section if you are using a smartphone or iPad / tablet to access our channel. This is a KZbin issue and we don't know why it's like this. Every channel is the same not just ours. You have to use a laptop or desktop computer (PC or Mac).
@chilled-out-on-lantau3 ай бұрын
omg AI generated house..I'm dying 🤣🤣
@HereComeTheParkers3 ай бұрын
hahahahahaha . He or she must need glasses I think
@ozpilot80833 ай бұрын
and now the Thai government knows about you - silly!
@HereComeTheParkers3 ай бұрын
And?
@beezelyparker96953 ай бұрын
🫶
@HereComeTheParkers3 ай бұрын
@HisHimmer3 ай бұрын
Please dont buy House s in Thailand...youll thank me later😂😂😂😂. Condos are OK .
@HereComeTheParkers3 ай бұрын
Well we have a family of five and 6 cats. Some of us are not suited to live in a condo.
@HisHimmer3 ай бұрын
@@HereComeTheParkers Thai govt doesn't want Foreigners buying up their Land is the Issue.
@HereComeTheParkers3 ай бұрын
@@HisHimmer yeah I guess they don't want Thailand ending up like Australia where no one can afford a house. But who knows. It is what it is.
@zedbou50403 ай бұрын
@@HereComeTheParkers I would think that it's more about control, and retaining Thailand as a Thai country. I live in Vietnam, which being Commy, is pretty much the same.
@HereComeTheParkers3 ай бұрын
@@zedbou5040 that's definitely true as well.
@joemachado3163 ай бұрын
Hey guys, you said that on your about Pages where your email is don’t see it. I’m the only thing I see is at here comes the Parkers but it says it’s an invalid email address. Could you send me your email address? Thank you.
@HereComeTheParkers3 ай бұрын
The "About" button I mentioned is not available when you access KZbin from a smartphone or a tablet. You have to use a desktop or laptop computer (Windows or Mac) to access the "About" button. This is a KZbin thing. I don't know why it's like that.
@joemachado3163 ай бұрын
@@HereComeTheParkers is it possible for you just to send me your email address