How We Built Our General Purpose Rifle Setups

[@SunshineAcresAerialPhotography]

“Things are going to get HEAVY” was the most underrated statement in this episode. Great job on this one guys!

[@barrelandhatchet]

thanks Josh!

[@bulljohnson6635]

@@barrelandhatchet What twist did you guys go with? I have a 13.7 that's a 1/7 but I'm seriously considering switching it to a Criterion 13.7 223 wylde with a 1/8. I stock pretty much m855s. I'm also building a ln 11.5 with the 223 wylde too. What are your thoughts?

[@lthomaston401]

@@bulljohnson6635 my 13.9 balistic advantage hason barrel 1/8 is my most accurate rifle

[@ErickChurch-gz4jn]

@@lthomaston401 I have a few B.A. barrels and have been VERY happy with their stuff. Especially like the 20"

[@IntellectualTerritory]

@@bulljohnson6635 criteron makes barrels that fuck couldn't go wrong but if you already got a 13.7 barrel may want to spending that money elsewhere

[@admmfg]

Great job on the video! We are glad to be a part of it to help teach both new and seasoned shooters on the "Why" behind specific rifle setups and not just cloning what everyone sees online.

[@barrelandhatchet]

AMEN to that!!!!

[@ACGBLR]

Nice!

[@jerrymandarren]

I believe rucking/ training with your armor/ PC is an essential workout that is lacking in a lot of regiments.

[@barrelandhatchet]

agreed, train with all of your Kit, see what works and what doesnt

[@warlord2pfa]

@bLackstar negative blackstar, you just have to be smart about it. Just like anything in life; stupid hurts. If you train stupid, you're gonna get hurt.

[@TheLoneRanger745]

Without water it's over.

[@chrisquintana3877]

Agreed, but we have to be careful, they will use it against us. Stay fit in body and mind. But dont attract attention by learp'n around public land. Do it on private property.

[@2salty239]

Agreed . I train both ways it’s a little different moving around in full kit compared to edc clothing and if your not use to carrying that extra weight and bulk it gets tiring real quick

[@asundaydrrive]

Great video guys. The “why” behind gear and philosophy is one of if not the most important aspects that most novice shooters and enthusiasts need to understand. You nailed it in this one.

[@barrelandhatchet]

thank you sir and also thank you for the support

[@jaredplayer7]

I really like these episodes, the amount of B roll makes them much easier to watch. Keep it up!

[@barrelandhatchet]

Thanks Jared!! You're the best

[@D.E.Williams]

Not only easier to watch, but doesn’t lock you in to/force you to watch it! It allows you to play it in the background and doesn’t make you feel like you’re missing some aspect of the video!

[@barrelandhatchet]

@@D.E.Williams 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

[@barrelandhatchet]

@@D.E.Williams thanks for the support and hope you enjoy our future content!

[@MrMcGuy]

I have many thoughts about how excellent this video is, but this particular section stuck out at me: Fitness. Thank you for coming out and saying essentially - if you can't carry your rifle, there is a problem. I elk hunt with a group of guys at 7-10K feet in 10-70 degree weather (fluctuates insanely during the days) with a day pack of around 25 pounds, and a load out of 80+ when we are successful and packing out meat. We hike on average 10-12 miles a day on rough terrain carrying rifle, spotting scopes, tripods, range finder and binoculars, food, water, etc. and our last pack out is everything I listed earlier plus meat & camp (shelter). I'm 5'8" and I'm 42 years old. If I can do that, no one needs to be moaning about GPR weight. Time to hit the gym guys. You don't want to be the fat guy getting clapped cause you're winded and couldn't move to cover in time, or worse, put your entire squad in jeopardy because of your lack of mobility. You guys put it much more delicately than I did, but the fact remains - if you're not in shape you are a liability to yourself and those around you. And for those of you reading this, if you don't hunt big game out west, start your preparation for that now and make it happen. You will learn an immense amount about navigation, field survival in harsh conditions and long range shooting that is practical and transferrable to scenarios such as these with modifications for your state of residence. Final note, I hope you guys are aware how luck you are to have the firearms culture specific to this video available to you. I have many firearms enthusiasts in my area, but they don't think like you do, and it's insanely difficult here to find anyone who is in shape and wants to train with kit. I'm flying solo for now and just hoping to be a community asset if things get sour. Outstanding video guys. Thanks for your time.

[@barrelandhatchet]

AMAZING COMMENT and great points and knowledge drop, Yes you hit the nail on the head! Keep it up!

[@HoundDogDefense]

Actually in the process of building my GPR now. 3 years of trying different stuff, preferences and learning new things every day have shaped my GPR into what it’s gonna be. Ultimately ended up going with a red dot and magnifier just because chances of me shooting past 300 are very slim in my environment, mostly up close to 200.

[@barrelandhatchet]

there you go! love your implementation of the thought matrix and utilizing your environment to dictate how you build!

[@mtnbound2764]

same here, but for me its hard to argue against a 1-6 or 1-8 lpvo. the major drawback is weight

[@mynamejef7963]

@@mtnbound2764 and like the entire point of this video is uhhh hit the gym pal 😂

[@mtnbound2764]

@@mynamejef7963 cool story bro

[@Char-nu9ir]

My plain old carry handle 14.5 with CCO is what I came back to for a GPR. I can maintain proficiency much more simply with it with the limited training time I have

[@TheLoneRanger745]

I think the primary Arms ACSS is perfect , designed for 55 gr. Range finder reticle is awesome (out to 6 max ) and a dot on the side is perfect for closer . You guys are AWESOME !!! Get some floppy hats w/ a band so you can plant stuff on it, brake up profile , silk never wilts, gilly cover in those woods... never be seen. No one trains like this where it's one hundred an fifteen. Get water on your back.

[@skylarwilson9680]

Can't lie, as the guy who was asking how you guys felt about 2x10s on GPR a while back, (I forget it it was your original gpr video or one warrior one sword) I think it's awesome to see you both have came around to the same Idea! Keep it up! I love your guys content! Looking forward to the next evolution of things!

[@barrelandhatchet]

thanks so much for the support and we are always growing and learning ourselves!

[@shaolinwarriormark]

​@@barrelandhatchetim looking at athalon 2-12 ffp mil or 2.5-15

[@Andrew85or]

Mid range scopes with a top mounted red dot or canted dot really check a lot of boxes. I run 4-16x on my 16" .308, keeping it at 4x unless more magnification is needed. Though when I build my AR15 I like the idea of a 2-10x, though a 4x or 6x ACOG is tempting.

[@Rebel_Spirit_Operations]

Pickles!!! I'm late but man just wanna say how happy I am yall are teaching. Some of us are teachers & I definitely look to yall for helpful tips and knowledge to pass along.

[@mattfleming86]

KP15 lower, and a skinny Hanson 16" tube. 1-4 triji. For my area, my terrain, (and us also having a farm for immediate needs) it's perfection. I reload so I have 62gr gold dots loaded aplenty. Very accurate rifle and very light to have an LPVO.

[@barrelandhatchet]

very very nice

[@teaganwindago3132]

I'm so glad I found you guys! @ 45:23 of this video I have to say. (As an instructor) I always tell my students the only dumb question you can ask is the one you DON"T!!!!!!!

[@chrissavage8107]

I ABSOLUTELY LOVE THE MIX/MASH OF DIFFERENT TYPES, COLORS, CREEDS, HERITAGE, RELIGION, ETC….. YOU GUYS REPRESENT IN THE VIDEOS. JUST ANOTHER FANTASTIC ASPECT OF YOUR VIDEOS! Pickles

[@barrelandhatchet]

Thanks so much for the support and you and all of the subscribers and supporters are what makes us so proud to be in this community!

[@gabrielduran8034]

My go-to rifle is is a del-ton lower and aero precision upper 16" 1-7 twist with a atibal 1-8 optic and CZ P10C as a secondary

[@frankcastenza6361]

No one cares.

[@Goldenwithaleash]

Cool video. My GPR is a 14.5” BCM ELW with a EXPS3 and Vortex micro 3x magnifier. I have a 1-6x LPVO on a ADM qd mount that I can slap on, if needed, and it does maintain acceptable zero. My wife is tiny and doesn’t train as much as we’d like so she needs something super simple and lightweight. For her, we went with a 11.5” BCM with a T2 micro. We live in metro Phoenix so I’m trading a bit of magnification for speed as I’m betting likely engagement distances to be within 100 yards. Not saying my setup is perfect, it’s just what we have currently. I have a decent stockpile of IMI 77gr match but I save that for my SPR. Both of our rifles are zeroed for 55gr XM193 as that is what I have the most of and is very common.

[@PapaDon850]

This is exactly what I’ve been preaching to my friends. You need to run a milspec trigger, 55 to 62 grain loving barrel. Train with what you will be picking up. I have a few different setups, but I can pick the majority of any AR and operate it as if it was my own.

[@tomjjackson21]

Trends in the industry are dictated by the current conflict. With the Russian conflict it's really solidified the idea of CQB is a COD pipedream. It's a comically limited circumstance within any of our recent conflicts. As tech progresses as does engagement distance. I recently read an article how the average engagement distance in Ukraine is 450'ish. I really believe the GPR/SPR is going to be the trend for the foreseeable future, and shortly we'll view manufacturers cater products towards it. We'll start seeing some of our Gucci 18' barrels being popularized again, and hopefully we'll get some decent options in a 2-10x optic range. The Credo is about it ATM, and the optical clarity is pretty mediocre, though it is a decent optic. I'm purchasing one for my MK14 EBR (guranteed to trigger someone) and I would be lying if I didn't acknowledge that I feel as if I'm settling. There's really nothing if high quality in the mag range, and unfortunately I'm not brave enough to purchase a $3k+ MARCH from Europe before looking through it. So, Credo it is.

[@sebleonard8273]

CQB shall and is still happening, you can't neglect it. Just look at Marawi, Syria/Iraq etc. Where they were literally breaking walls inside building to switch positions or continue clearing So 14.5s ain't gonna disappear anytime soon. However shorter than 12.5, I can see these starting to become less on the forefront of manufacturers. Nevertheless, you bring up good points

[@PureKrudd]

@@sebleonard8273 we were clearing buildings in Fallujah with M16A2’s, there’s always work arounds for those types of engagements. Obviously we’re talking about optimization, though, and the real reason for those 10.3”s is the utility of adding a suppressor with the same OAL as a birdcaged M4. Right tool for the job. You still see utility in short rifles for vehicular use, specifically. The inside of an Abrams or 113 has practically all of us running handguns. You’re both right, it’s just a matter of whether you’re willing to sacrifice terminal performance or maneuverability.

[@PureKrudd]

@Ghost good enough to survive

[@PureKrudd]

@Ghost I get that you’re being inflammatory for reactions, but for passerbys it’s important to realize that the govt’s objective in that city and the people on ground’s were different Didn’t die? Didn’t lose

[@tomjjackson21]

@Ghost your handsome ass Grandpa was clearing buildings with 24 inch barrel in WWII.

[@sambusak5538]

Love the content you guys put out, it’s nice to hear people talk fact based conversations that lead to critical thinking of philosophy of systems and mindset. As others have said earlier, your very fortunate to be surrounded with likeminded folks , I’ve been trying over many years to network , with minimal success. In the Gestapo state of Jersey , stay free brothers.

[@TheSonOfJohn117]

Great information. Much thanks from Utah.

[@barrelandhatchet]

WOW! That is Awesome !!! thanks for the support!

[@Ikem5546]

Good budget mount that offers same capability as the ADM is the Burris PEPR. A bit heavy but pretty solid and comes with a picatinny top mount for a dot. Can be had for $60-$70.

[@barrelandhatchet]

oh that is something we will have to check out

[@Ikem5546]

I should say similar* capabilities. I’m sure the ADM is a superior mount, just wanted to throw other options out there.

[@DR-hc4im]

Absolutely love the content and setups. Put together a budget optic stack that is working out beautifully. Vector continental 1-6 lpvo (German glass ~$300) in a Burris pepr mount (has picatinny on top $80) Vortex crossfire 2 red dot $100 on top. Entire stack is about $500 out the door. Took it out to 500 with ease. Shout out thunder valley

[@andre3470]

Love this style of my already favorite content!

[@barrelandhatchet]

Your my favorite type of subscriber! Positive and awesome! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽

[@JamesLCunningham0911]

Hey guys love the channel. This is one of my favorite videos. Great to see another TACP out there dropping knowledge

[@BuckFoeJiden]

My go to is quickly becoming my 20" HBAR with KP-15 lower and Magpul MOE handguard. Running a PA 4-14X44 with DMR HUD reticle, and a tube mounted SeeAll Open Sight. I did everything humanly possible to offset the weight of the long HBAR barrel, and I'm glad I went that direction. It's a little cumbersome in close quarters, but it makes up for that and then some at 25 yds snd out, which is the vast majority of my foreseeable use case My next upgrade is gonna be an ultralight MLOK handguard and adjustable gas block. Debating on throwing my PEQ-15 on it too. Going to drop the buffer weight just a little, and hopefully tune the vast majority of what little recoil it has out. Going to shoot for the Smith Vortex FH, too.. though I'm honestly considering an A1 to save on length. Running the two mags of Mock 262s I've hand loaded with BLC-2 and AlcoBullets 77 gr rebated boat tails, it's absolutely capable of touching 850+ yards (2750 fps average muzzle velocity, 0.510 G1 BC) though the energy is pretty abysmal (400 ft lbs at 800 according to my calculator)

[@Hvckman238]

Great example of how to “peel”/ shoot move and communicate in a small team setting!

[@MTMILITIAMAN7.62]

My dilemma right now is choosing between a 16 inch AR15 with an LPVO and a 18 inch AR10 with a compact 2-10. I live in Western Montana. This is Big Sky Country. So once I get outside, on the move, there is the potential for sightlines to get long. And I am not looking to lose the initiative getting decisively engaged. I picture my tactics being that of a light Scout or Recon unit; stay quiet, stay moving, see them before they see you. When you are with your friends and family, the only gunfights you win are the ones you avoid. So right now I am debating whether the close in firepower of the AR15 is more important than the standoff distance and raw power of the AR10. The AR10 has a Proof Research barrel in it, so it isn't that much heavier than my AR15, but I still can't carry as much ammo. I see the utility of the AR15 and 5.56 is everywhere. But I always have this voice in my head telling me volume is fine but accuracy is final, so I can never drop the idea of having a relatively light weight AR10 in .308 that can reach and touch, but still put down some hate and discontent if I need it to up close.

[@lambchop6210]

the ar10 sounds like a winner for me in your area. can also drop some big animals with it when you need too

[@MTMILITIAMAN7.62]

@@lambchop6210 To be fair, it is legal to hunt with .22 cal centerfires in this state, and I have a pretty good string of one shot kills on deer with my 16 inch Colt 6960 just using mostly 62 gr Barnes or 62 gr Federal Fusion MSR bonded JSP. But yes, esp with an 18 to 20 in barrel, the .308 Win is a big step up from the .223/5.56, and allows one to comfortably hunt about anything in the state, including elk and moose. I prefer bullets in the 168 gr weight range. My dad has had good success in his 20 in AR10 with the 168 gr Berger hybrid, and I usually roll with the 168 gr ELDM. If I was looking for strictly hunting, especially bigger game like elk, I would probably go with a 165 gr Partition or 150 gr Barnes, but for all around use, the match bullets offer a good compromise of exterior and terminal ballistics that is hard to beat.

[@daltonpelham1757]

I love these videos and the style of them! More of these B-roll and what if type videos pleaseee

[@barrelandhatchet]

Roger roger

[@dogmush]

Great Video! I need to write out the matrix and start filling in thoughts.

[@barrelandhatchet]

Amen to that!

[@DanielBoone337]

I ran across the Trijicon Credo 2-10 looking for an optic for a SPR build I was putting together. On paper it looked phenomenal but the reviews were mixed then I ran across yalls so I went ahead and picked it up... Now I have a 2nd one on the way it's freakin awesome. Really loving the videos guys keepem coming!!!

[@barrelandhatchet]

We heard the hate on it. We tried it, we FRIGGIN LOVE IT!! So glad it’s working well for you, a perfect DMR/ SPR TYPE optic

[@arkansaswoodsman1582]

Been really wanting 77 gr but your absolutely right 55 GR is the most plentiful and with the right skills the longer shots can be made

[@tylertapp131]

Good stuff, my GPR is a suppressed SOLGW 13.7, runnin a dot and magnifier on unity mounts, with a dual laser and surefire scout vampire. My area doesn't have crazy open long distance spots, most are 300 and in so it works out pretty good for me. I've tested all kinds of ammo from steel case 55 grain all the way to 77 grain BTHP. Havent had a chance to take it past 200 where I am but I know it can all make consecutive hits on an 8 inch plate, without changing my POA. Keep up the good work fellas. God bless from ole Carolina.

[@protectpersevere2030]

I also got a SOLGW 13.7 but still waiting for my can to get out of jail 😩

[@tylertapp131]

@@protectpersevere2030 never fun... but I promise ITS WORTH THE WAIT!

[@TCraig00]

Which Carolina is ole Carolina?

[@tylertapp131]

@@TCraig00 north.

[@markymark9359]

Amazing content, as always. Keep it up! PICKLES!

[@barrelandhatchet]

you know what Marky Mark, You are awesome YEEET!!!

[@protectpersevere2030]

Been waiting a while for this one! Been putting in work with my SOLGW 13.7 with a PA 1-8x and 407c rds piggyback on top. Also really digging the sniper veil. Thinking about cutting part of it to wear as a hood/face concealment like you did but shock cord a long strip over muzzle, rail, and scope like in Act of Valor. 🤙

[@barrelandhatchet]

They work great and have so many uses, filtration, get it wet and it can cool you off, wear for camouflage, cover your gear, etc etc

[@Charles-tj8ol]

What is the sniper veil you are referring to? Is that a product they sell? I’m new here

[@protectpersevere2030]

@@Charles-tj8ol It’s a common lightweight cotton netting (scarf) that can be worn over your face or rifle to break up your silhouette. Also it’s nice it hot weather bc you can get it wet and wear it around your neck or head as a “swamp cooler”.

[@barrelandhatchet]

@@Charles-tj8ol we totally might look into selling them, however the hood is called a cobra hood is a partial grille, which you can buy on amazon

[@tstrongarm77]

You guys are my kind of people.

[@barrelandhatchet]

THUG LOVE 😎😎

[@dilinger5566]

Awesome topic guys!! Keep em coming.

[@auditransporter4760]

Love your guys content!, keeps me motivated to keep training hard and be an asset in this crazy world.

[@IronAndInstinct]

Couldn’t have said it better myself

[@michaelpro2800]

Pickles part duex lol love the content and videos great stuff guys looking forward to getting out there one day to JTAC Range I’m here in Miami but you know work work work. One day!!

[@barrelandhatchet]

Cannot wait and thanks for the support Michael!

[@averycole1408]

I’m in Tampa, been thinking about trying to get out there but I heard it’s near impossible

[@barrelandhatchet]

@@averycole1408 Try checking out the website, JTACranch.com there are new slots and availability for memberships, also they host their own training courses which are open to the public

[@Countryguy5967]

So, I personally went with a 18inch barrel. I life where there are towns, forests, farms, and wide open areas. The 18 inch didn't add too much going from a 16. And the slight extra muzzle velocity especially in the more open areas does help. Right now I'm trying to figure out what optics I want. I have a LPVO but I haven't been really enjoying it. Not much a fan. I can generally do better with irons and holographics better than a LPVO. What do you guys think about running a Eotech with a magnifier?

[@Staravora]

As a Midwesterner, I'm surprised there isn't a higher preference for AR10s over here given the likely increased engagement ranges and to compete with the likes of hunting rifles and also the abundance of ammo for .308, speaking from a shtf perspective of course

[@skitsofraniac123]

midwesterner as well. currently building an ar10 for long range precision

[@rudrashakti108]

Agree with you. That's why I bought a sig tread 716i a few years ago just for the reasons you mentioned amongst others.

[@barrelandhatchet]

the big reason is AR10 are very harsh on parts and unless you build its hard to find a reliable and accurate system without breaking the bank, we are actually talking about doing a AR10 DMR build video

[@MrRhsmike189]

@@barrelandhatchet true that! I just did one with a slr ar-10 lower upper and hanguard combo, Noveske 16" barrel and I had them headspace match 1 bolt and carrier and a back up bolt (a must with any ar-10). Loved the fact the bolt had dual ejectors. Did a a5 tube with a Tubbs ar-10 flat wire and h3 buffer. 1000 hard rounds later and 1 class(half surpressed)still running strong.

[@Icybones000]

One reason is ammo, actually huge, you can carry way more 5.56 ammo at a lighter payload then 308, that is something to think about, weight matters, not to mention how heavy that AR 10 is going to get lugging around.

[@TexasSurplusPro]

Glad you guys hit on the quality control issue as of late.. I had a premium rifle completely crap out on the first magazine. I also had some issues with reputable ammunition that could’ve been catastrophic. The Q/C is worse IMO then we saw around 2012/2013.

[@Godawfull]

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[@Godawfull]

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[@Godawfull]

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[@LRRPFco52]

Great episode again gents. Enter the mv into your program for an 18" SPR and then do a 14.5", shooting the same load. There really isn't a practical ballistic advantage. It's slightly in favor of 18", but nowhere near what you might think. But you do have a weight and length penalty 100% of the time with an 18" SPR.

[@barrelandhatchet]

however there is also increased points for cool factor with SPR as well lol, thanks for the support!!!

[@LRRPFco52]

@@barrelandhatchet SPR is much easier to shoot from bipod/prone and have high hit probability, just sucks to carry and try to shoot alternate positions with, other than tripod supported. They are great to train with for new shooters who are learning, that will benefit from a stable, heavy platform.

[@christopherpena921]

Where could one go to find the data tables if going down the “rabbit hole” is something a nerd wants to do? I’ve been going back and forth between barrel length for an actual GPR build as opposed to just a rifle with irons

[@LRRPFco52]

@@christopherpena921 Pull up any free online ballistics calculator. Hornady has theoretical drag model and Radar drag model real world available on their site. You can even select from a laundry list of bullets they have Radar track data on and put them through. For 18", enter 2750fps with a 77gr SMK. For 14.5", enter 2580fps. The real differences are in rifle weight, configured. A heavy AR of any barrel length is a lot easier to shoot from bipod prone-supported or bench supported. A lightweight AR is easier to carry and shoot from other positions.

[@jordang6454]

Keep them coming and thanks for the knowledge

[@barrelandhatchet]

thanks for the support!!!

[@student1979oct]

Had to come revisit this vid. I'm looking pretty close at the Tract 2.5-15 for my 14.5 build.

[@owenricker5626]

Thank you for these why videos. I’m looking forward to some gear ones too! Pickle’s

[@barrelandhatchet]

we def will be hitting on gear in some episodes coming very soon!

[@wolfman4lph4]

I have a 16" midlength PSA carbine with a front sight block, upgraded to an Aero free-floating quad rail, it has a Troy rear sight and PA micro red dot on a co-witness riser, and a CAR15 stock because esthetics, so far been working pretty well, granted I can't exactly financially afford, nor do I have the time most of the year, to go out and train like I should, but still

[@brianl1813]

2x10 is great for florida. I know many think of florida as everglade swamps, beaches, jungle, and palm trees. There's a lot of wide open land down here where I live in sw florida. I'm sure central fla. is the same prob with some rolling hills. I live around as much open flat land as I do forrest land. Anyway, good content and nice setups.

[@stephengalindo6340]

Great stuff guys! I need to get out to the ranch to put some rounds downrange

[@barrelandhatchet]

amen to that, they have classes that are open to the public which will be the best route to go, they are a member based facility, but if you take a class with them that will qualify you for membership!! hope to see you soon!

[@alexanderoneal6553]

love these long format discussion videos not enough of them out there

[@taylorjensen6178]

Great episode guys, great knowledge and it made me think about stuff a lot more. I will definitely look into the Trijicon Credo optics thought.

[@richardacosta2297]

pickles!!! Plus I love your content and the last thought process behind the GPR. Great stuff guys, keep it up.

[@barrelandhatchet]

Thanks Richard and you sir are awesome

[@M4tt925]

Picklescast always bringing the fire. Great to hear your thoughts on GPR builds!

[@throttletherapy273]

Phenomenal quality boys

[@barrelandhatchet]

Thanks brother

[@joquin4618]

Excellent content. I got several rigs that I’m trying to get squared away… love the GPR concept! but I must agree, always invest in training and ammo!

[@barrelandhatchet]

Amen to that. Remember you are the most important asset, not the tool you buy. Invest in you!

[@NateKing5oh]

Pickles! (I really hope someone already got this giveaway, since the video is a year old...) Love the content. Thanks for educating and encouraging. I'm a central FL boy (Sumter County) currently in VA for law school, and I've been amazed at how different the 2 places are for how I setup rifles & how I try to camo everything. I actually found y'all through your camo video because I'm trying to find the most effective way to understand camo in varying terrains. Now, I'm a faithful listener. Keep up the good work!

[@RouseDas]

Pickles and a shirt. I know I'm late. Can't wait to go up there next month for my eval.

[@barrelandhatchet]

Cannot wait to see you, come introduce yourself if you see Eric or Roy!

[@Fatties09]

Thank you for the podcast episode drop!

[@barrelandhatchet]

Thank you for the supoort!!

[@sneakytails1724]

Florida is going to be fine i think. You guys seemed stacked.

[@jiujitsuforall8627]

I absolutely love your point about not only involving spouses, even kids, and for me, grandkids, with shooting but as finances allow, perhaps purpose-building an AR platform to fit THEM! I'm in the process of doing exactly that right now. I've found that what I would pick for them isn't necessarily what THEY would pick after being exposed to several different barrel lengths and even PCC's. So now I'm in the process of spec'ing out and building a few variants of the AR platform. All will be in 556 or 9mm (Glock mags). As you might of guessed, they don't have to twist my arm that hard!!! Great content, guys!

[@loganmays8481]

Y’all should do a short video on the kit y’all are running in your packs and on your bodies for this concept

[@mrBlakout]

Pickles. Lol. First time listening to you guys. Enjoyed this talk.

[@barrelandhatchet]

Welcome!!

[@SchwererGustavThe800mm]

30:08 "Get fit enough to carry your rifle." *Looks at the Ohio Ordinance 1919 BAR in the corner of my room*

[@randelldarky3920]

My 16" has a 4X ACOG, My 14.5 has a 1-6XACSS and My 20" is a 1-8XACSS. Love the Primary Arms.

[@RollingRigTraction]

Having carried the M-14 the majority of my time and qualifying primarily on M-16 A1-A4 rifles in the interim. The weight isn't horrid, at this point I have a plethora of AR-15 uppers the last three devised primarily to shave weight which haven't been shaken oit for zero at the range yet. However, stating that fact, shortly after my Dad passed Mom gave me an M&P15 Sport II rifle which was "on special" at Cabela's right then and it's a heavy barrel model not the M4 profile and it's beyond stupidly precise straight out of the box. It has consistently given 1/4 MOA 3 shot groups dead on the bullseye at 100 yards. It's a 1:9 twist barrel so I don't expect it to stabilize heavier bullet weights but for a semi automatic coyote control rifle it's absolutely worth it. I've had clowns talk all sorts of smack about my "cheap AR-15" from lil shits who have pink Hi-Point 9mm pistols as "high speed"😂 I've acquired a Centurion MKXII SPR and havr built a longer range capable MKXII SPR clone with many of the same components and a plethora of other longer range capable rounds; mostly the 6.5 Grendel. I'm just not bothered with the weight all that much on any rifle(except the 36lb .50 BMG I have zero intentions of running and gunning with😂.) At this point, for lightweight and close in go to war work I'm seriously leaning towards the Mean Arms ball bearing delayed 9mm upper on a standard AR-15 lower and I fully expect with a Fultin Armory binary trigger it will be a serious contender for 1-300yards and suppressor capable with even better capabilities for noise mitigation.

[@jgesler1]

I enjoy the content, it would be cool to see how you would set up an ar10 platform and go over the gear you guys use.

[@Imtheeyeti]

Love this channel, love the content and respect you guys opinion! Only thing I’d recommend if I may is seeing your guys faces while your talkin!

[@barrelandhatchet]

we will be doing more Barrels & Brain episodes which will show our lovely faces more

[@Edaveragejoe6390]

Will you guys repost your plate carrier video ? I would like to watch it agin

[@barrelandhatchet]

We will do another video on just armor

[@michaelgee7509]

Pickles or not… love you guys videos. I am asking my friend who is the head of internal medicine at Tampa General to contact y’all. He needs training. He was my college roommate and is a doctor. Has the guns, and the gear I set him up with but needs a group. I am in Colorado so can’t do it. But this guy is a doctor and has done heart surgery. Hoping you guys connect

[@barrelandhatchet]

yeah share this content with him and tell him to hit us up in our email [e-mail]

[@jasonmpd2946]

Good conversation. 👍🏻

[@anielparache]

Great video very informative thank you

[@chucknoris7648]

Can you guys do a tip’s video about noise discipline and glint off scopes and lights

[@barrelandhatchet]

we do a little bit of glint control in our camoflauge episode, however we can def do a KZbin Short episode on how to make one

[@yourdad4627]

Went with scar 17, vortex razor 1x10, reptilillia mount with rmr until acro p2 shows up, mawl, surefire vampire, surefire rc2

[@barrelandhatchet]

that is a very solid and accurate setup plus .308 hits like a freight train!

[@DMH707]

I’m down town St. Petersburg. I’ve been running a 12.5 with a 1-6. But Im planning on building out a centurion lw 14.5, 1-10 razor, and a surefire mini. Like yeah im in a city. But when you start thinking about how quick you can got from 5 yards to 600, 700, 800. It’s really making me debate my go to gun. I plan on running a 1-10 and centurion lw barrel to try to keep weight down.

[@connorburns8447]

im thinking of using my ddm4v7 to be my gpr as im moving to colorado next month. I think the 2-10 would work nicely for that role, both in the urban area of colorado springs and in the mountains. what about dill pickles?

[@barrelandhatchet]

that is a good rifle and 2-10 makes sense for that setting, I would go with that type of setup for sure

[@bestkoolaid1835]

Hey guys love the content. If you guys drop some shirts I’m definitely going to pick some up. I’m looking into getting an ADM lower due to me being left handed and from the good things I hear from you.

[@barrelandhatchet]

a fellow lefty!! and the shirts will be up on the site soon and the new website will launch very soon

[@BassMan-wr3lq]

So in a shtf scenario I'm picky about what rifle i would grab, but I'm taking at least 2 with me and a good shotgun full of birdshot. How many rifles i can throw in the the truck depends on the urgency of the situation, but good chance im grabbing 2. I have a bunch of gear in a rolling tote so everything else is just greb n go, and if im making 2 trips im grabbing everything useful towards my situation in those 2 trips. could be fighting an invasion or making an evasion but i have most of the stuff i need in one tote. Rifle and tote one one trip, 2 rifles and a shotgun on the 2nd. But ultimately it depends what i actually need for the situation. Im not grabbing a spr to do a DMR's job. Just know the deeper I reach into my safe the more worse off we are so of course there's levels to it. I pray we never experience this type of stuff but hats off to those who have and are sharing knowledge 🤘

[@dondobbs7722]

Excellent video with great content.

[@dowlingc2]

If you like the vudu 1-8, but want a mil grid reticle, you have GOT to try the new vudu 1-10. Its incredible

[@willevans7841]

You guys need more subscribers , I thoroughly enjoy your content.

[@barrelandhatchet]

thanks dude! you are awesome!

[@TakeitEasyG]

Hey guys great video and framework for building a fighting carbine. With the credo and a laser mounted on top do you get any sight occlusion?

[@barrelandhatchet]

thanks for the support and actually you don't see it or have any visual impairment especially when you increase the magnification

[@ronsmith9251]

I haven’t found a LPVO that I like 100%. I feel a mid range scope (2-10 or 3-15) with a red dot is the way to go.

[@sa-amirel-hayeed699]

Primary arms 1-8 ACSS is the way to go for me, just got a laser for close range indoors stuff.

[@barrelandhatchet]

@@sa-amirel-hayeed699 have you tried out the new Primary arms LPVO with the new Mil Reticle by Chance?

[@sa-amirel-hayeed699]

@@barrelandhatchet unfortunately not, this gear is quite expensive in my country so I had to save up a for a while before buying the scope and mount but I've been able to easily make shots on 8" square steel plate at 500 yards with 55gr fmj using the acss reticle so I don't personally feel the need to look at other scopes

[@barrelandhatchet]

@@sa-amirel-hayeed699 fair enough and also yeah its good to settle with something that is working well for you!

[@caseymoore4759]

Just got my first lpvo coming from a eotech exps. I went delta Stryker hd 1-6 and love it. It was a easy transition

[@clintdodson44]

I've been watching all this video all the way through y'all have a great little video going I like the way y'all communicate with each other I do a moa and I have a bad astigmatism so I shoot a prism sight they're heavy but they do the job I'm old so I can't run around like ya'll do can't get down on my knees

[@edgaresquivel2147]

Type A Rifle 11.5 SBR with Shadow Systems XR920 as secondary.

[@derkeiler6811]

Pickles 🤣🤣🤣 but I‘m late here in Germany 🇩🇪. Have a great one and thanks for your work. My current GPR is a 12.5 Haenel. In the US it’s imported and labeled by B&T. Why so short? Because it‘s designed for the woods, urban environment and around vehicles.

[@barrelandhatchet]

Wow! Thanks for the support from Germany and they GPR sounds awesome Der Keiler! That makes sense. We actually have a Soft spot for 12.5

[@sage_n_cedar]

12.5 is 🔥. I am running the same with a micro on top of a 1-8 lpvo. Good in the foothills, confident accuracy to 600, perfect length imo

[@sage_n_cedar]

For those that are interested in ballistics and don't have a chrono, i chrono'd 3 barrel lengths yesterday. 14.5 mid hanson w/pinned block=2854fps, 12.5 carbine bcm gov w/pinned block=2748fps, 11.3 hanson w/pinned block=2634fps. Using xm193 fmj. Plenty of variables to talk about as far as ballistics but this was my data based on the conditions at the time of testing, where i am.

[@macgriff1179]

@@sage_n_cedar what's your elevation??

[@sage_n_cedar]

@@macgriff1179 6500ft

[@Crazycapo88]

I’m building mine for South FL being that’s where I live, being able to blend in and not stand out to much, lol

[@Kyle.Hoskins.Official]

You guys are in my neck of the woods 👍🏻

[@RomanicusSparticus]

My GPR is a 12.5” in 6.8SPC. Part of my personal thought on it is, I can basically carry the same amount of ammo but with more performance. Either I’m a good enough shot to eliminate the threat and I have their stuff at my disposal… or I’m not, and it’s a moot point.

[@barrelandhatchet]

very good points

[@natewahl9873]

American defense for the win💪🏻💪🏻. Love mine!

[@barrelandhatchet]

bling blam bang! American Defense Manufactering is AWESOME!!!!!!!

[@Andrew85or]

Yep! Have their 34mm Heavy mount with the rmr footprint top mount.

[@murph240]

you guys should check out the new Primary arms compact 1-8 im super interested in getting one myself. pickles me plz.

[@shootscoot883]

Serious question!!! How do yall not have more followers???? Good shit guys!!!

[@barrelandhatchet]

Hahaha we are new, but tell you frenz we be here

[@jonwebsterabbott]

Great video, Eric and Roy. Gives me a lot to think about. This is especially true for what ammo I zero my rifle on. What would you consider zeroing on? I was personally going to rezero everthing to 55 grain and then use 62 grain to see how much the POI changes. I would then put this into a separate dope card for the rifles with capped turrets and a dial adjustment on those rifles with those kind of scopes. Your feedback would be appreciated.

[@barrelandhatchet]

Yea to everything you said dude, that is exactly what we do, and whatever you will use most of the time is what you zero with. The second most used option you build dope for that as well and remember your holds!

[@jonwebsterabbott]

@@barrelandhatchet Mahalo! I cant remember shit so I had better right it down!😂. Cheers to you guys🥃🥃

[@barrelandhatchet]

@@jonwebsterabbott cheers homie!

[@frankopanklaric]

I have a16 inch m&p 15 sport 2 with a 1-6x lpvo with a streamlight. Can't have short barrels here.

[@TexasSurplusPro]

Great video guys! Question for y’all.. With the proliferation of night vision, do you see the laser’s maybe becoming obsolete in the near future?

[@barrelandhatchet]

I don't believe so, they will always be a source of communication and marking to enhance SA, however the use of them strictly as aiming devices I feel will go away.

[@Kiite702]

If you don't mind my two-cents; everything can be a double-edged sword in the sense of context. Tracers are a good example of that in the sense of knowing where a target lies, but it knowing where you are too. Night vision and lasers (in my experience) are surely a double-edged sword depending [again] on context (Working in rural or urban environments? Mountainous or flatland? Are electrical services still on and are they stable?) I wouldn't say obsolete but the use of them will definitely be shoved into a box labeled "How should I use this?" and that's a box filled with too many questions that you need to know the answer to in-advance, or in-the-moment you'll learn quickly and painfully. Personally I don't use them, but I was lucky to learn from the mistakes of others and develop methods around the loss of a tool (it may be slower, but it isn't as pronounced as a laser. A double-edged sword in and of itself.)

[@SuperHeatherrussell]

I'd grab my 16' super duty and it has an acog, back up irons, sling and surefire scout. Really simple setup and can get everything I need done.

[@codychadwick7227]

You have a firearm that is 16 feet long?

[@willfarrell6083]

@@codychadwick7227bro 😂😂😂

[@shyloevans9241]

I live in a super flat green place. I went with a compact 3x9 with offset red dot

[@mtnbound2764]

great video, good discussion, for me its way optic heavy for a 14.5", but hey, whatever works for you.

[@sokyoutdoors588]

24 hours later...PICKLES!!! Did a quick look through and did not notice anyone saying it.

[@buellboy007]

Having moved back to Florida to Ocala where is a good place to go rifle shooting

[@non-binaryjesus]

So lots of paint and flashlights. A whisper pickle and a 2k optic. ✔️ 😂

[@barrettanderson2781]

The reason mpvos (while having a red dot on the rifle) are so much better than lpvos is because due to them using less jumps in magnification, they have a larger exit pupil. Which leads to a larger eye box. A 2-10 only has five magnification steps. A 1-10 has ten. Even a 1-6 has six. This alone makes mpvos easier to get behind than lpvos in almost all cases. The faster you can get in the eye box, the faster you can get positive ID, the faster you can shoot. Use a dot out to fifty yards and start at two power beyond that. It's the ideal setup.