How We Created Mark of the Ninja Without (Totally) Losing Our Minds

[@SmartAim33]

I would love to see a sequel/prequel to the Mark of the Ninja!

[@SamuraiExecutivo]

Dosan's Tale is kind of a prequel, i supose

[@AdamHawkesDeveloper]

How did the audience not burst into applause at 2:30? Using "art" as an excuse to grind and crunch is a serious problem.

[@peterjaschkowske8416]

Great talk! Really made me respect Klei. Not only does this approach help you stay sane it also makes sure you create a good game.

[@booketoiles1600]

I'm a simple man, I see a talk on my favorite game, I watch it.

[@XyntXII]

In case you don't know: There is DLC consisting of Dev Notes in the levels. It is great.

[@booketoiles1600]

Yup, totally worth replaying the game.

[@elintepic9154]

glad to see another person who agrees that this is the best game theyve ever played

[@NinjaReyman]

It’s crazy they didn’t do a sequel immediately. Such a great game

[@Deillum]

01:29 "It's basically an edible..." Fuck yeah !

[@mikeyoung9810]

Love game dev stuff on GDC

[@NasSombras]

I need Mark of the ninja 2 please

[@alr2157]

great essential talk!

[@AAron2020xydfg]

Came here after watching the making of the halo games and bungie's massive push and massive amount of overtime when getting close to release and I really like how these guys think. Huge hours like that are unsustainable and terrible for anyone who wants a good work to life balance. It still looks great at both companies though nothing but respect for all my favourite developers.

[@Largentina.]

I guess that explains why Bungie has like no original members anymore and Klei still has the founding members working there.

[@unleashthedog]

To me feels like they actually lost a bit their minds as it seems there was a lot of failure and stress in the first part/concepting/research...

[@Ayoul]

If failure is part of the process, then you don't lose your mind.

[@mahrcheen]

The more failures you get early on development, the clearer the path you must go appears. Imagine a failure at the end and scrapping 80% of stuff you built on wrong assumptions.

[@lukky6648]

One of the dev notes mention how the dev had an awakening moment when one of the playtesters used a guards body to disable the lasers (which they didn't intend for) , he mentions how that made him finally believe that they have reached a point where their puzzles could be solved by players through logical conclusions and natural experimentation , which is a huge deal in the stealth genre.

[@orelyosif5852]

Gladly Mark of the Ninja wasn't too ambitious of a project. Those guys would have killed themself for art

[@Netherfly]

[@vfps4796]

Waiting for a Shank collection, or a Klei entertainment collection. Stop sleeping on your product.

[@cirodefagot8554]

Subtitulos en español!!

[@karry299]

But they DID lose their minds, after all - after Ninja they degraded to ugly crap like Dont Starve and No Oxygen. Such a great step down...

[@TheAlison1456]

Don't Starve isn't bad. It's just not the same kind of game as Ninja. Now, No Oxygen i don't know anything about - but it's interesting that they decided to make another survival crafting game right after Don't Starve.

[@SDKSeizO]

In the end, what to do is studio's decision. Each game has it's nice ideas and quirks.

[@samkern108]

Oof. Harsh. I don't personally enjoy Don't Starve, but why shit on something so many people like?

[@kaukolsothy9919]

I don't like don't stave and no Oxygen but they are both really well made and interesting in their own way and add new interesting twist to the genera.

[@coldDrive]

The games you mention are good, and Invisible Inc is probably my absolute favourite Klei game. I can't follow you.