How We Misunderstood Roman Britain. The Exeter Story

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Paul Whitewick

Paul Whitewick

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@ncammann
@ncammann Жыл бұрын
The phrase "Orient the map" means "To point towards the East" i.e the Orient. or Where the sun rises. The Romans would have used the sunrise as their Datum mark. Hence the layout of their map. Laying maps to the North/South only came about much later, after the discovery of lodestones and then compasses, and magnetic North.
@Hairnicks
@Hairnicks Жыл бұрын
As a Devonian I really enjoyed that, thank you Paul.
@MasLikesThings
@MasLikesThings 5 ай бұрын
Same❤
@BillSikes.
@BillSikes. Жыл бұрын
Theres a Roman road marker stone at Tintagel, i came across it by accident, its on the footpath leading up to St Necterns Glen
@smallsleepyrascalcat
@smallsleepyrascalcat Жыл бұрын
The amount of research done for your videos is incredible. I look forward to them in anticipation every Sunday. ^^
@pwhitewick
@pwhitewick Жыл бұрын
Thank you Kia
@richardmorgan9273
@richardmorgan9273 Жыл бұрын
As Paul mentioned, the tin and other minerals from Cornwall would have been a valuable commodity, so you'd expect a more obvious Roman presence. A few thoughts/guesses for why there's little trace: 1. The tin/minerals would probably have been exported by sea, so major roads were unnecessary. 2. Cornish tin had been mined and used to make bronze since the Bronze Age, so presumably the trade routes would have been well established before the Romans, so little need to upgrade - it'll be the same people mining and trading the tin, just the government had changed. 3. The local tribe (the Dumnonii) appear not to have resisted the Romans unlike the Durotriges to the East, so no need for a heavy military presence. Anyway, an interesting and thought-provoking video!
@peterthorpe8104
@peterthorpe8104 Жыл бұрын
Nice to see you down our way highlighting our fantastic historic city of Exeter (Isca). There is a walk around some of the remaining wall and gates, you can get a map from the Exeter Museum. This news from Exeter University using the LIDAR results etc. is great. As you mention in your video, when you have resources, towns and markets build up around them.
@norsehall309
@norsehall309 Жыл бұрын
G'day from Australia, l Married a wonderful Girl from Exeter and the first time in that City l walked through an arch in a quiet thick wall next thing my wife said you know that's a Roman wall, l went back and hugged it, no history like that in OZ, cheers mate, keep doing what you do best, Neil 🤠.
@imagseer
@imagseer Жыл бұрын
Interesting, we need more on this topic from you. There is a video in the Royal Albert Museum in Queen Street which shows Exeter's journey from South of the Equator 300 million years ago to where it is today; that museum is well worth spending 2 or 3 hours in. A Roman road and location of a fort settlement were unearthed at Okehampton 22 miles West of Exeter recently when they were building a new housing estate and they have left part of the road exposed and fenced off so that people can take a look. I think we should also remember that transport by rivers a sea were the only practical means of moving anything heavy until the Industrial Revolution.
@neiloflongbeck5705
@neiloflongbeck5705 Жыл бұрын
Whilst there probably just one major route in to Cornwall it'll probably be somewhere north of the Tamar estuary. Most of the mines were probably linked to the closest port and didn't use this road, just like some of the coal mines in county Durham where linked by rail to the nearest North Sea port.
@superted6960
@superted6960 Жыл бұрын
I also think it unlikely the Romans would have had multiple roads beyond the main links. Outside the forts the countryside would have been relatively lawless, with travellers prey to bandits, unless well protected. I know little of Roman Britain but suspect they would have preferred to protect a lesser number of main routes rather than spread themselves too thinly
@neiloflongbeck5705
@neiloflongbeck5705 Жыл бұрын
@@superted6960 there would have been, but probably little more than dirt tracks that had been in use prior to the invasion.
@rialobran
@rialobran Жыл бұрын
I concur, which is why the only known Roman forts in Cornwall are at the high tide range of the rivers in the mining areas. None of them were long lived, Calstock was occupied 30 years maximum and Roman Villas there are but one, and that was a Romano British copy.
@kernowboy137
@kernowboy137 Жыл бұрын
I agree, there is so little evidence of Roman occupation aside from a couple of forts in East Cornwall and a Villa near Camborne that the expense associated with an extensive road network seems unlikely. Indeed, given that most of the Cornish trade in metals was exported by sea a simple track network would surely have been adequate. Cornwall’s history of trade with the mediterranean also suggests that the Roman’s used a light touch on the local inhabitants to ensure this trade continued unmolested.
@rialobran
@rialobran Жыл бұрын
@@kernowboy137 There are too many assumptions being made off the back of LIDAR and small excavations. At Calstock fort they found a road heading out of it going west, a short section. so assume it went into Cornwall. Yet any fool can see even the Romans couldn't have gone east or north without going west first from the fort, the valley is almost as steep as Cheddar gorge. It's pretty well accepted that the old A30 is probably the Roman road, and I'm pretty well sure I've tracked the road from Calstock to Okehampton, but nothing to the west.
@t.a.k.palfrey3882
@t.a.k.palfrey3882 Жыл бұрын
As usual, an excellent and highly informative video, for which many thanks. One of my grandsons, a 13-yr old history nut who lives north of Brisbane, loves your channel and uses some of your topics as themes for his boarding school history projects. Over Zoom yesterday, he did remind me that Exeter was not the westernmost fort in the Roman Empire, however. That was Segontium, today's Caernarfon in Wales. It's great to learn from or be reminded by one's grandchildren! 😅
@douglasfleetney5031
@douglasfleetney5031 Жыл бұрын
Wonderful as ever Paul. One minor point: Port Lympne is pronounced as Limm. the Y becomes an I and the PNE are silent. Just another of those weird Kent places like Trottiscliffe pron Troysly, don't ask, please don't ask...
@pwhitewick
@pwhitewick Жыл бұрын
Ah thanks. I'd never even knew it existed until this video. So had no clue.
@tolrem
@tolrem Жыл бұрын
Reminds me of an old map showing Brighton as Brighthelmstone.
@paulberen
@paulberen 4 ай бұрын
Goes for Chittlehamholt and Chittlehampton, two villages close together north-west from Exeter, and Woolfhardisworthy, North East Devon; Viking occupied area; though Wolf Hardis Worthy is pronounced Woolsery.. For a favourite would have to be Mytholmroyd, West Yorkshire; pronounced My-them-royd, and 'should be' Myth Holm Royd.
@robinbennett3531
@robinbennett3531 14 күн бұрын
Nice! Thanks Paul, Exeter is lovely! I love the speculations about the faint traces we see of the olden days
@gertrudehumpadink1405
@gertrudehumpadink1405 7 ай бұрын
I’ve lived in Exeter since 2017 and I must say, it is a wonderful place to live. I quite regularly frequent a coffee shop that sits directly opposite this wall, and ponder its history. Fascinating video Paul. Subscribed.
@xPyroxx
@xPyroxx Жыл бұрын
2:25 hahaha, "is quickly working to address these concerns" those have been up since 2019 I think. I'm from Exmouth, and grew up in and around Exeter as a kid and a teenager. My grandad helped with the rebuilding of the wall where you can walk ontop of it back in the 80's.
@pwhitewick
@pwhitewick Жыл бұрын
Oooops
@davestevenson9080
@davestevenson9080 Жыл бұрын
house prices gone down yet? I grew up in Exmouth too, would love to move back...
@ashmaybe9634
@ashmaybe9634 9 ай бұрын
@@davestevenson9080 Haha you're kidding right?
@paulberen
@paulberen 4 ай бұрын
@@davestevenson9080 Sorry, 11 Months later, still the same. Devon still has it's own exclusive, above all other areas, highest house prices; and difficult to get any sort of housing, unless you're an illegal immigrant; being put by governments now into Devon and other places towns' hotels..
@bobn450
@bobn450 Жыл бұрын
The Romans did pop down to Plymouth, but soon realised what a depressing place it was. They quickly returned to Exeter and formed the mighty Exeter City Football club. The Roman Emperor Septimius Severus was a keen city fan and was indeed a season ticket holder. The rest, as they say is History! Robert d'Exeter
@tomrainboro
@tomrainboro Жыл бұрын
"The rest", as they say, is that they play outside the Roman city and are nicknamed the 'Grecians'! Dave of the Deep Valleys
@jamiewood4280
@jamiewood4280 Жыл бұрын
And the rest as they say is history as they languish in league 1, whereas the mighty Argyll enjoy championship football.
@thra5herxb12s
@thra5herxb12s 7 ай бұрын
I thought it was the Greeks that brought footy to Exeter 😁
@Dave5843-d9m
@Dave5843-d9m 6 ай бұрын
Exeter City was doing well until the manager walked out for a career move. It’s a shame he failed to arrange a continuation of the excellent coaching he had developed at the club
@jumpferjoy1st
@jumpferjoy1st Жыл бұрын
Nice video. Even in alleged well known and well researched areas, new roads are being found. Remember a friend of mine was part of a team that found a new road in East Sussex around 2010, using the ground penetration radar.
@catherinegrimes2308
@catherinegrimes2308 Жыл бұрын
It is good to hear about Exeter University, I went to there from 1979 to 1982 and loved it there.
@timelordtardis
@timelordtardis Жыл бұрын
The underground passage tours in Exeter, which incorporate the aquaducts, are very interesting but don't go if you suffer with any form of claustrophobia.
@66kbm
@66kbm Жыл бұрын
They are from the Medieval period. 14/15 century
@kategleason6908
@kategleason6908 Жыл бұрын
Yes my daughter and I visited the underground passage tour 😊
@austinhallmark7060
@austinhallmark7060 Жыл бұрын
Thanks
@pwhitewick
@pwhitewick Жыл бұрын
Much appreciated
@greentravels2850
@greentravels2850 Жыл бұрын
Another great video to illustrate why I love this channel; a great history lesson, lovely views of the UK, questions and answers, and great hosts. Keep up the good work!
@Sim0nTrains
@Sim0nTrains Жыл бұрын
I really do like Exeter. Very nice video Paul
@shirleylynch7529
@shirleylynch7529 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting. What a work you put in to your videos. Thank. You. Most enjoyable.
@martinjolly8351
@martinjolly8351 Жыл бұрын
Great video, really good to learn more about a fascinating, historic and often overlooked city. So much more there - the bridge itself is really interesting.
@davidhcobbald3632
@davidhcobbald3632 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic video as always! I live in Exeter and it was really cool seeing you out and about in familiar places! I sadly must admit that I did not know how much Roman archaeology was all around Exeter...but now I do! 😀 As soon as I heard about the amazing discoveries by Exeter University about all the Roman roads, I wondered if you guys would investigate and make a video!
@lindamccaughey6669
@lindamccaughey6669 Жыл бұрын
Loved that thanks Paul. Thanks for taking me along. Please take care
@jordesclark
@jordesclark Жыл бұрын
I was very excited seeing this research a few weeks back. I live in North Tawton, and the study placed the town in a very important position. Nemetostatio, as the Romans named it, could be much more important than we first thought. And thanks to your video, I may just begin doing my own research into the area, and the roads. Thanks Paul, for another great video
@cooper68ns
@cooper68ns Жыл бұрын
I said it once before but I am going to say it again. I have been really enjoying your videos lately. Not so rushed and so well done thank you so very much for all your hard work. Cheers
@RichardFelstead1949
@RichardFelstead1949 Жыл бұрын
Another well produced video Paul and Rebecca. Greetings from Australia.
@billwright5228
@billwright5228 Жыл бұрын
There is a Roman Rd( route of) marked on os maps at Newton Abbot, also on this route the remains of a Roman bridge at Teignbridge. The causeway is thought to be Roman too.
@martinross5521
@martinross5521 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for a great video and the new LiDAR analysis has really lit up the research. Good to see you exploring in our part of the country!
@davie941
@davie941 Жыл бұрын
hi again Paul and Rebecca , interesting as always , really well done and thank you both 😊😍
@glyn829
@glyn829 Жыл бұрын
Nice film Paul you sure put some work into your research made a very interesting film 👍 regards Glyn
@iancharlton678
@iancharlton678 Жыл бұрын
Paul, great work…….. I long since stopped watching the TV…… ironically, having invested in a gigantic 65” monster - which I never watch, apart from the odd film. Your narrative, camera work and editing rival any documentary content I had previously watched…… I wait for each new video 🥳🇬🇧 Do please carry on the pair of you…….
@rutabagasteu
@rutabagasteu Жыл бұрын
Interesting. Thanks.
@hond654
@hond654 Жыл бұрын
Excellent presentation about new data, thanks!
@pwhitewick
@pwhitewick Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@WILLIAM1690WALES
@WILLIAM1690WALES Жыл бұрын
Living just on the Welsh side of the border. Chester is about 6 miles away and it’s amazing what I’ve seen the similarities with Exeter
@davidguerin2921
@davidguerin2921 Жыл бұрын
Hi Paul. I chanced upon your site just a few weeks back...loving it!!....and have joined the RRRA on your recommendation. Keep up the good work!!
@PipBin
@PipBin Жыл бұрын
How do you both manage to create these each week!? Such great content and entertainment.
@pwhitewick
@pwhitewick Жыл бұрын
I'm not 100% sure. 🤪
@angelaknisely-marpole7679
@angelaknisely-marpole7679 Жыл бұрын
Excellent, thank you!
@michaelmiller641
@michaelmiller641 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting! Paul. Thankyou
@66kbm
@66kbm Жыл бұрын
Depending on your Roman knowledge of Devon and your contacts within the Archaeological community, it was, not is, well known that many Roman sites existed/exist beyond Exeter. Looking at your road maps of recent info shared on the internet, most of that is already known, it just took 1 person to put the pieces of the puzzle together. II AVG in AD50 was camped in the region of North Tawton where a massive temporary Legionary Fortress was uncovered.....over 30 years ago. Sooo as i said, most is existing info, someone decided to put the pieces together. Good on them.
@pwhitewick
@pwhitewick Жыл бұрын
Agree with all that! Lots more to do I feel
@davidmarsden9800
@davidmarsden9800 Жыл бұрын
It may pay you to check where II Legion Augusta, with Vespasian under Plautius, went in AD43 after crossing the Thames onto the triangular island that now has the Houses of Parliament on, the invasion force split into 3 if I remember correctly and the legion that Vespasian was in went south west down to that area which might help you find where they ended up. As with many sites they were after resources like lead, silver, gold and probably most relevant for you, tin. They knew from trade that the resources were here and where they were. They reached Cornwall but didn't have a large presence beyond Exeter for whatever reason. Puzzling, as tin etc from there would have helped finance the invasion in addition to the glory for Claudius.
@ncammann
@ncammann Жыл бұрын
There is an excavation of a Roman fort overlooking the Tamar river at Calstock in Cornwall very close to the highest navigable point up the estuary. OS Grid Ref: SX 43665 69203 Very close to the Tin/Copper Mines of Morwelham and the Devon-Great-Consuls, and many others nearby. Although the "Recorded History" of these mines was very much later, it is likely there was small scale mining much earlier in time.
@theoztreecrasher2647
@theoztreecrasher2647 Жыл бұрын
Sounds like an eminently reasonable assumption.
@paulberen
@paulberen 4 ай бұрын
@@theoztreecrasher2647 Some of the tops or fault lines in Cornwall can be seen by lines of dips in the ground, in fields; which were a first ancient and prehistoric locations of mining; the metals being dug out just on the earth surface.. Mines would open and close, and also get re-opened again, as areas of underground mining grew and expanded.. Numerous Mines in the Carnon and Poldice Valleys area of Cornwall, south from Redruth and Camborne, were amalgamated into just one: Carnon Consolidated Tin Mines Ltd, for example; now a largest derelict mines area of all of Europe. A part of the South Crofty, (Camborne) - last working Mine of Cornwall, and that was shut for over a hundred years, was re-opened to dig up radiation rich rock for Marie Curie's experimentation with Radiation. These can be accessed - not recommended without a geiger counter - through some of Redruth town's groundwater / rainwater drainage system manhole / access covers, while the old Mine workings underneath the town are used for the drainage..
@andrewlamb8055
@andrewlamb8055 Жыл бұрын
Terrific Paul! Well done and keep these instalments coming please, if you can mate 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🇦🇺👍👋👏💫⚔️
@colcester
@colcester Жыл бұрын
Back on May 5th to May 8th this year, my friend and I drove the entire length of the Fosse Way, sticking as closely to the route as it would allow for a vehicle. We decided to use Exeter as a hotel stop but actually started our journey properly from Seaton which is where OS Maps show the Roman Road originating from. Whilst there is a road from Exeter running through Honiton and onto Dorchester we suspected another route ran via Ottery St Mary and past Blackbury Castle Hillfort down to Seaton and Beer, possibly an early anchorage site for the Roman fleet before they used the Exe Estuary and certainly an important place for cargo what with Beer Stone quarried locally and all the rich Somerset villas like Lopen and Dinnington and the products coming from Ilchester and the Mendips all easily exported out from Seaton rather than back tracking to Exeter. I suspect though that the River Exe and Exeter became more important to trade from Devon and Cornwall after the town was developed following the military use and the river became the main site for cargo for these areas, hence the extensive road network located by Exeter University.
@paulberen
@paulberen 4 ай бұрын
Exeter also has the first Ship Canal to be built in the UK - Did some of the Fosse Way, from Bath; where from Bannerdown a car can get along just the strait line, with a few (original, Roman) kinks for valleys, etc; and without a break; up to Cotswold Airfield, Cirencester.. This is the maybe the most recommendable for a road route, drive; while it is solid enough and level, but not tarmac, and not used except by local farmers.. North from Cirencester most of Fosse Way is A-Roads and B-Roads, up to near Leicester, and mostly the same on up to Lincoln, with some diversions though, and busy roads, in the wrong time zone, so to speak..
@mkendallpk4321
@mkendallpk4321 Жыл бұрын
Your videos were very good before you slowed down. Now they have improved greatly! Excellent work, please try to keep it up. I really do appreciate all the work you put into each video. Just don't burn yourself out.
@adamg393
@adamg393 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video paul
@richardwakelin843
@richardwakelin843 9 ай бұрын
I grew up just east of Exeter near seaton, there are roman remains at seaton, also a place called foss court, said to be part of the foss way. There is also parts of a straight road which i have followed . Its easy to pick up from the A3052, it crosses more modern roads, it goes through an old area used to be known as sandpits, now filled in, then it goes down through the woods and crosses the river coly in between colyton & southleigh, up over the other side of the valley to the top to a place known as sutton thorn & another sandpit/ quarry. it then joins what is now the A30 which joins the A303 & goes up to London. Within an distance of about 20 miles of colyton i counted i think 15 iron age hill forts also.
@davidbassett4577
@davidbassett4577 Жыл бұрын
Fascinating video Paul .. think Devon & Cornwall has many mysteries to be uncovered not just from The Roman Empire Days! My grandfather on my father’s side was born in St Dominic Cornwall .. and retired back to Devon after he retired .. he is buried in the cemetery behind the church at Mary Tavy on edge of Dartmoor .. spent many happy summers staying down there in mid 1960’s … the history and beauty of both those magical counties have always intrigued me .. there is also a monument to a very distant relative at Carné Brea just outside Illogan in Cornwall (Basset monument) .. my middle name is in honour of my grandfather & a good old Cornish name too .. “ Edgar” .. hope to see more of your videos (abandoned railways & tramways possibly? ) from that neck of the woods as I live over 200+ miles away in Buckinghamshire!!
@paulberen
@paulberen 4 ай бұрын
Cornish man Trevethick - inventor connected to the mining world in Cornwall, found that the horses needed to pull up mined material were expensive, so he decided to put one of the massive pumping house engines with pistons 80 plus inches diameter, on their side, and reduced in size, to be used as locomotives, to replace the expensive horses. He made a show of his creation along a street in Cambourne, (town next to Carn Brae, hill); and then set up a competition up north, to select a steam engine design for use on overland railways - Stevenson's Rocket famously won the competition; while mine owners saved a lot of money while injured horses were expensive to replace. The first commercial railway, then - The Middleton Railway - was built to haul coal to the Yorkshire Leeds ship canal; from Mines on Middleton Moor; and still runs trains at weekends, steam engines included. Town end station and museum & cafe is at Moor Road, Hunslet Carr (moor), Hunslet, South Leeds - also famously producing machines and locomotives* in use all round the world. *[ HUNSLET Engine Company ].
@leeclift4666
@leeclift4666 Жыл бұрын
Interesting Paul thanks for posting 🙂
@eucharistodeo
@eucharistodeo Жыл бұрын
I've always said our Roman mapping was downright stupid in places. Decades ago i would look at the same maps of the SW & ask, so how did they get the tin & lead out? Fly it to Exeter? & If that really was the western most place, why on earth does the road continue? It wasn't walled off! Yet why could no one see these inconsistencies? Same with the A5 at the NW end & be all those myths! I'm so glad you're doing these videos to work on seeing the record straight. The Romans were just as, if not more logical in their thinking & practicality than we ever will be, that's why we miss so much! Straight (minimum bend, etc) saves, time, 💰 & makes a statement; unlike after they left if someone winged about a road through x, it went around, hence lots of the bends! (Compare that to much of the modern trunk road & railway building in France & Germany) just like was done with the settle to Carlisle railway, a line on a map! It works, with just kind to iron out later! Why on earth would you stop at Exeter when all the lucrative mines are in the next 150+mi further W? You need a network of roads to get that stuff out! It's simple logic! & As much to ports as roads inland given Rome had a navy & merchant ships! The CB used Dover & Chester & got there going past Cornwall! Logic says there should be ports in that area! This needs shouting about much more! Thanks & well done!
@paulberen
@paulberen 4 ай бұрын
Isn't the low arched and slightly sloping bridge in the vid a Roman bridge? It's to the West, towards Cornwall, from the Fort and City, and originally crossed the River Exe, so it wasn't going nowhere, but with a road heading on Westwards, towards Cornwall.
@malcolmrichardson3881
@malcolmrichardson3881 Жыл бұрын
Really interesting video which raises a lot of questions. Exeter was also a major port (via Topsham) and Roman supply route. This might suggest its importance as a transit hub within the Roman system of communications - internally and externally. As you suggest, it would be surprising if there were no Roman settlements of significance west of Exeter and a road network connecting them. Another point might be that although we know something about the main arteries of the Roman network, we seem to know less about its 'local stubs or branches' - if such there were. Your call to 'get to grips with the parts we don't know about' should be welcomed.
@paulhardingharding3192
@paulhardingharding3192 Жыл бұрын
I enjoyed that, I live in Exeter Devon.
@paulharvey9149
@paulharvey9149 Жыл бұрын
Fascinating as always, Paul. I wonder if Exeter's role was similar to the much shorter-lived Bertha - i.e. the most westerly (and northerly in Bertha's case) permanently occupied place - from which various sorties to further afield might have been launched? That might help explain the fragmented routes in North Somerset, Mid-Devon and Cornwall - especially if they pre-existed in some form already, and the Romans therefore improved only their worst stretches for ease of access/egress - but they didn't become proper Roman Roads because there were no permanent settlements in those areas to the west of the Exe? My interest in Bertha is because I'm a native of Perth, incidentally!
@markstuartwakeley
@markstuartwakeley Жыл бұрын
My home City interesting they have found new temporary forts at the Bus Station and Topsham road and still the earliest roman mosaic found in England from the bathhouse I believe??
@alexritchie4586
@alexritchie4586 Жыл бұрын
Fun Fact: Northernhay Gardens where the opening shot is is the world's first public park, granted by the City Fathers to the city's citizens in 1612 😁
@andrewgraham4372
@andrewgraham4372 Жыл бұрын
And you put Axminster on the map so to speak, my home town 🙂 Exeter is a great small city and you’ve made an excellent interesting video 👍🏻
@mjwemdee
@mjwemdee Жыл бұрын
Terrific video. How often I’ve driven round the old Exe bridge and mourned the covering-up of history. I live in the Netherlands now but still Exeter has a place in my heart; my alma mater. Lived in Torquay too: but the Romans seem to have avoided that one.
@pwhitewick
@pwhitewick Жыл бұрын
Or did they....
@notmozart1
@notmozart1 Жыл бұрын
Welcome to my stomping ground. I thought you were going to suggest the route went further West to North Tawton as the Exeter Team have recently suggested.
@MrGreatplum
@MrGreatplum Жыл бұрын
Exeter will always have a special place in my heart as that’s where I went to uni and met my wife. Everywhere you showed was familiar to me. I wonder why they haven’t found more archaeological evidence further west? Cornish tin was much sought after by the Roman Empire - Exeter would have been quite a port before the weirs on the Exe - I wonder if much of it travelled by boat rather than road? As ever, a very interesting video!
@llywrch7116
@llywrch7116 Жыл бұрын
The presence of an archaeological find is often the result of active searching. In other words, the more archaeologists looking for something in a given area, the more likely something will be found. Cornwall most likely just needs more people prowling about the countryside for Roman remains.
@xlithoplatemaker
@xlithoplatemaker Жыл бұрын
Nice one!
@sj257257
@sj257257 Жыл бұрын
It is a shame that Cornwall are building a road over the marching camp discovered in Roche. I suspect there is more to the story than revealed to locals. The field it was found in was called the post field by the farmer as there was a modest standing stone that the cows liked. I wonder if Goss Moor stopped them or slowed them down, being on the edge of the camp.
@highpath4776
@highpath4776 Жыл бұрын
With Roman sail going up the Bristol Channel (for the Severn Gloucester etc and S Wales) I would imagine that the Cornish were not seen as needing overall "control" , mostly due to the weather and maybe compliant (or males taken for Roman Army service in the Med ) people. A lot more sea routes meant roads less needed
@WestCountryClegg
@WestCountryClegg Жыл бұрын
Thanks Paul Cleggy
@christophernoble6810
@christophernoble6810 Жыл бұрын
A big clue is that for moving heavy objects the roads would have been unsuitable. The rivers were used instead. That would certainly explain the lack of Roman roads west of Exeter.
@gevetsrm
@gevetsrm Жыл бұрын
As someone from the heavily recoded Roman Kent I found this video completely fascinating
@theoztreecrasher2647
@theoztreecrasher2647 Жыл бұрын
"Recoded" or "recorded"? Possibly a lot of the problems with the reliability of older sources might be due more to the diminishing cognitive abilities of the Old Fart transcribers than any other factor? 😉
@paulberen
@paulberen 4 ай бұрын
Seen written somewhere that the first place the Romans landed at in England was at Richborough, near Deal, Kent coast. There's a partly eroded into the sea / coastal marsh, Roman Fort there: Richborough Roman Fort..One of the google streetview spot locations has the fort as it was in Roman times, including it's grand 'Triumphal Arch'. Kent's one major straight Roman Road (Straight / Street?) Watling Sreet, is visible and driveable from nearby Canterbury, and via Rochester to Greenwich, close to the London Docks area, and heading for Westminster.
@Bender24k
@Bender24k Жыл бұрын
I've got some very nice maps of Rome, New York. That's as close to a Roman Road as I'm likely to see! Thanks Paul (and Rebecca) super enjoyable as usual!
@Noway600
@Noway600 Жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@bill8784
@bill8784 Жыл бұрын
Fascinating insight into something I have long wondered about (the real actual extent of Roman rule particularly in the south west and Cornwall). Thank you.
@theoztreecrasher2647
@theoztreecrasher2647 Жыл бұрын
Those dastardly Romans "spread the benefits of their civilization" to the savages of Briton for the same reason that later Brits painted the maps red - to snaffle up resources. The tin of Cornwall was a major priority so it's hardly likely that the area wasn't under their iron grip. But ore and ingots being weighty items, they were much more likely to develop shipping facilities than long distance wagon roads. Also the folks who were assigned to do the digging then were not today's FIFO budding millionaires and so there was no need to provide flash villas and bath houses for them - just a place to dump the bodies when they had been worked to death, Mein Centurion! 😱
@nozrep
@nozrep Жыл бұрын
hey that was great. I am Texan and I do not know much about this type of history. But I sure do enjoy learning! And as a Texan, I think we also have an American Exeter? maybe. And I think if memory serves they are like, good at basketball in American college and university sports. The NCAA, as it were. Well I’ll have to google it to remind myself. But yah I have always heard the word or name, Exeter, and like, just always like the sound of it. Pure and simple, without knowing anything else at all, I just like the sound of its pronunciation. Is that weird?😅 Probably. Anyways great video, glad it came up in my recommendeds.
@nozrep
@nozrep Жыл бұрын
replying to myself…. nevermind there is no American Exeter. haha I totally made it up didn’t mean to. But there is some old private high school called Phillips Exeter somewhere in New Hampshire.
@alexandertolano9666
@alexandertolano9666 Жыл бұрын
The kingdom of Dumnonia (Devon and Cornwall) was a Roman client state (like the Iceni) and as long as it served its purpose it was unmolested. The earlier society that had built Stonehenge bequeathed good droving tracks made by herds of Aurochs, so the Romans didn't have any need to upgrade them for several decades. Also, much of the metal ore was exported from Cornwall by sea, a trade route that Julius Caesar had seized during his conquest of Gaul a century before the Roman invasion of Britain. Only ore required domestically needed to travel by road.
@stephenchappell7512
@stephenchappell7512 Жыл бұрын
Yes indeed the Romans could be a pragmatic bunch
@Fozz84
@Fozz84 Жыл бұрын
Great video. I live in torbay. So much history here hidden.
@Simonsvids
@Simonsvids Жыл бұрын
It is highly unlikely there were no Roman roads in Cornwall further west than Exeter. I remember in the 70's it was believed that there were no Roman roads further west than Carmarthen (Roman Moridunum) in South Wales. Excavations in the last 25 years have shown otherwise.
@nontimehistory5679
@nontimehistory5679 11 ай бұрын
I’m trying to work out king street and mareham lane. I think the agger has been completely ploughed out 😞 I’m also currently creating a 3D virtual road of king street and mareham lane. Now imagine walking that Paul.
@highpath4776
@highpath4776 Жыл бұрын
Google needs to add the Roman Map to its GPS map views !!
@jgodfrey546
@jgodfrey546 Жыл бұрын
Surprising Norman's bits lasted so long on the wall...
@paulberen
@paulberen 4 ай бұрын
Norman Architecture is called Romanesque because it was based on Roman Architecture(?)
@zengintepe
@zengintepe Жыл бұрын
Great video, thank you Paul. One of your very best IMO (although as I live in Exeter I may be a tad biased!)
@malcolmdalrymple1779
@malcolmdalrymple1779 Жыл бұрын
Fascinating. Thanks.
@pwhitewick
@pwhitewick Жыл бұрын
Our pleasure!
@simonwood1402
@simonwood1402 Жыл бұрын
It like the London Underground Map 🚇 some stations appear to be close by when in fact they are far apart.....
@SteamCrane
@SteamCrane Жыл бұрын
4:59 - R TREWMAN Esq RECEIVER - what did he do? In the US, we now associate Receiver with bankruptcy.
@Lichfeldian--Suttonian
@Lichfeldian--Suttonian Жыл бұрын
Many thanks, Paul. This was fascinating. The amount of research that you do is magnificent. I didn’t know about the existence of that volcano! As a rock collector on my youth, I should know better! Roman existence west of Isca Dumnoniorum? Why not? It does seem though that in history, the Cornovii foreigners (“Corn” & “wall”) - to quote the English - are kind of autonomous: language etc. We even have a “Duke of Cornwall” which appears to separate it, and parts of Devon, from the rest of England. More research wanted for sure.
@janecapon2337
@janecapon2337 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting video. If Exeter wasn’t the last city west, which city was? Great movie footage, and really expert editing. Thank you for all the hard work!
@pwhitewick
@pwhitewick Жыл бұрын
Thanks Jane.
@smogthehorse9409
@smogthehorse9409 Жыл бұрын
​@@pwhitewickIf I remember correctly a substantial roman settlement or part of one was discovered in the 80s during a construction of a new road layout in Newton Abbot, also its claimed Totnes has a roman pas
@paulberen
@paulberen 4 ай бұрын
With sea travel included; Plymouth at the Tamar Estuary; and Truro in Cornwall would be crucial, as would Penzance; with it's natural sheltered harbour location including the ancient first settled place of Penzance next to it. Any number of landing places would be included, as convenient nearest places to sources of metals, for example. Devoran, on the Carnon Valley estuary, for example, that in Roman times was a harbour further inland, at Bissoe, while the Devoran estuary is now silted up and ovegrown, thanks to the Mine working up-river. (a Beware of the Water, here, because a Mine close to Bissoe had Miners working there with wooden nails in their boots, because the Sulfuric Acid in the mine melted metal, and still flows out from an Adit / tunnel; and straight into the river, stream. Doesn't Newquay on the Atlantic Coast have some Roman connection? There's also an irresistible 'High Road' Ridge Route - Hatherleigh : Highampton : Holsworthy : Stratton and Bude.. Bude a coastal, sea travel location; with the Stratton on the main Atlantic coast road; sounding suspiciously Roman, especially being on the 'Street' / Road that is known locally as Roman in origin; or at least a part or parts of it, (the A 39 Road; itself a natural ridge route along the high ground dominant along the north Cornwall and Devon coast). In the Exeter Fort / Castle area / compound, there are some very old Holme Oak Trees, that have been 'DNA'd as Roman origin.. (Holme Oaks are coastal Oaks most common on the north Mediterranean Sea coast areas, and called Holme Oaks in England because of their lower leaves resembling the shape and form of Holly Tree leaves). There's also a very old massive 'inland' Holme Oak Tree, in Somerset, at Highfield House(?) on the main road near Holme, a Church, with seven big Oak Trees around the Churchyard. The lady living in the cottage next to the Church explained that the Church was once surrounded by Oak Trees, an Oak Plantation, for Oak Timber.. Meditterranean Holme Oak - Italy / Rome - Roman Oak Plantation?? The Romans introduced Wine to Spain, France and England; though first accessed in Moldova and Georgia where it was grown for 4,000 years before the Roman Empire / or 6,000 or more years ago. What Romans grew in Britain, like the Wine Grapes they introduced into Europe; would be another 'Roman Roads, Routes and Roots' connection to look at...
@stevemarshall3481
@stevemarshall3481 Жыл бұрын
Please do come to Cornwall, the only place I know of where there was roman activity is Calstock, I've been told there's a roman road right next to what is now the main road into Calstock, apparently you can see the contours if you stop your car and go into the field, I've never stopped as I'm always working when I'm that way but would love to know more about roman Cornwall, I'll do some digging on the net, see what I can find 👍
@llywrch7116
@llywrch7116 Жыл бұрын
About your comment that we don't know the Roman names for their roads in Britain. I have a theory that the name for Akeman Street derives from the Roman name for Bath, Aquae. Thus ad Aquanam (if I remember my Latin correctly), or "to Bath". Unfortunately, the earliest mention of this road is post-Conquest, so even if plausible this is not conclusive. I connected the points many years ago, but this is the first opportunity I've had to share it with anyone who might be able to confirm my theory. Thanks for that opportunity.
@damianbutterworth2434
@damianbutterworth2434 Жыл бұрын
I live next to the FossDyke in Saxilby Lincolnshire. I thought the A46 Foss way went up to Grimsby, going through Lincoln.
@MichaelCampin
@MichaelCampin Жыл бұрын
The Fosse Way bypass
@Brix96
@Brix96 Жыл бұрын
it`s been known for a long time that the romans came further than Exeter ,in Brixham theres a Cavern where a number of religious artefacts were found.
@rogerwilco2
@rogerwilco2 Жыл бұрын
6:26 This sounds like such a British way of doing this.
@robinhayhurst5943
@robinhayhurst5943 Жыл бұрын
"Let's go back 285 million years when this hill ...was a volcano...and the Romans had been here for 140 years"... I didn't know the Roman Empire went that far back!!! Well... you learn something new every day!
@markfeldhaus1
@markfeldhaus1 11 ай бұрын
Sorry, but you parsed the sentence incorrectly.
@margaretcook560
@margaretcook560 9 ай бұрын
Try listening to what he says.
@LordoftheBadgers
@LordoftheBadgers Жыл бұрын
You know they found a sizeable fort when they did road improvements at Roche in Cornwall? It's on a Digging For Britain episode
@Phillip-tw1yh
@Phillip-tw1yh 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for your Isca story?
@tomrainboro
@tomrainboro Жыл бұрын
Don't underestimate the difficulty of building roads in the south-west! Check out Bury Barton at Lapford and Roman marching camp at North Tawton. My guess is that Exeter would feel very much like the edge of the Empire in the first phase of the occupation (43 - 70).
@mphys5370
@mphys5370 Жыл бұрын
I was taught in School that the Romans left the west off their maps because they didn't want others to find out about the large quantities of tin they were mining.
@hanzzarkov7690
@hanzzarkov7690 Жыл бұрын
Each time I think on it, it's surprising how long the Romans occupied Britain. Always fascinating to see late stage Roman occupation in these 'borderlands', and appreciate how ingrained it became.
@totoro123
@totoro123 Жыл бұрын
Nostalgia... I went to Uni at Exeter
@minui8758
@minui8758 3 ай бұрын
Do Leicester one day. We’ve got a continuous history from AD 60ish or so until today. Also a Fosse Way city although not quite as important as Lincs or Exeter
@davidtomsett
@davidtomsett 11 ай бұрын
I have the OS Roman map, it’s brilliant
@pwhitewick
@pwhitewick 11 ай бұрын
Absolutely agree
@alexblacksmith5605
@alexblacksmith5605 Жыл бұрын
Hello Paul I live in the village of Gittisham, Devon is that any relation to the Gittisham you mentioned?
@curlybrownliz
@curlybrownliz Жыл бұрын
Yes, there was a Roman Fort in the area of modern day Gittisham and the 'old A30' incorporates several stretches of Roman roads
@Astro_Gardener
@Astro_Gardener Жыл бұрын
Exeter, best city in the country. I would say that as I was born there.
@tjp3800
@tjp3800 Жыл бұрын
Your video thumbnail has Exeter somewhere over towards Honiton.
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