How well would the Xenomorphs survive in Warhammer 40K?

[@christophertryhorn784]

Honestly on a human hive city they would probably be a massive threat before anyone noticed but then it’s basically fighting the tyranid but easier so other then having to stay stealthy for basically ever they would get wiped everytime a hive is discovered but other then that they would be a minor threat really

[@thebigbadevilguy71]

That’s pretty much my thinking is they will survive by just not being noticed for as long as possible, but eventually their luck will run out

[@tidehunterzamora9315]

A Single Exterminatus will literally Kill all of those Xenomorph if they find out how dangerous the threat is.

[@Heraldofnagash]

Yeah they are Tyranids that cannot create genestealers.so what would happen if your precious queen eats an exterminatis to the face or get kidnapped by dark angels or an inquisitior? queens can't do anything against a squad of space marines.losing men means nothing to the imperium because they have another one on the way.if they get involved with the eldar,the eldari are a race of psychers short term space wizards.they are so flexible that if a human tried to move like an eldar all of their bones would shatter.i can imagine the xenomorphs getting slaughtered by the eldar.orks don't care about losing or winning all they care about is fighting which if they do it more often they get very strong although a facehugger can just oneshot an ork warboss I doubt the pain Boyz will care about the warboss's life mite than that interesting alien.dark eldar use Tyranids as wild beasts in gladiatorial arenas so xenomorphs are not getting anywhere yet.necrons stomp xenomorphs because they are made of metal,acid doesn't bother them that much they just heal it off and they dissentigrate anything using a simple gauss cannon even the Tyranids get stomped,the xenomorphs are getting stomped harder.the only race they are strong against might be the humans because their hice cities are massive and they are very ignorant of everything.chaos would be like hmmm interesting.khorne gets more skulls for his throne,nurgle gets to spread more plagues,slaanesh gets nothing and tzeench can influence the queen because tzeench has manipulation.overall I think xenomorphs would be just a small threat.ohh I forgot the Tau yeah the Tau have long range weapons,they suck at melee tho.the xenomorphs would be scattered everywhere but will be just local wildlife for some people

[@nialljones3227]

@@Heraldofnagash There are two other stages to the queens life the empress a large queen who controlls all the queen on a planet and the queen mother a being who i think is capable of telepathy the queen mother controls all xenomorphs. And also the xenomorhps dont need genestealers they take on the traits of their hosts so if they infect a being capable of a feat that is just a natural part of their bodies and species then the xenomorph will inherit it and if the resulting xenomorph becomes a queen there face huggers will have similar traits. So if a facehugger attacked and managed to impregnate a space marine you'd have a massive xenomorhp which has the base strength of a xenomorph plus a space marines strength so they would be pretty massive

[@Heraldofnagash]

@@nialljones3227 wait wait wait.i just got an idea.what if you let a facehugger hug the god emperor. He is really strong,a nerd,has psychic abilities and immortality. Imagine a xenomorph queen with the DNA of the emperor.my throne.

[@Miraihi]

Xenomorph's largest weakness is the inability to independently travel through space. As fearsome as they are, there are plenty of similarly terrifying alien animals on many death worlds.

[@guywholikesgoodmusic]

This is the key, really. Interstellar travel is the single greatest contributing factor to a faction becoming a big player in literally any scifi universe. Xenomorphs would be solely reliant on other species to do anything. Might end up occupying a few planets over the course of millennia, depending on who picks them up, but that's the extent. I love xenomorph lore, but they're genuinely just a non-issue for anyone with half a brain to stay away from them.

[@thewanderingfool4435]

In our universe Alien/Xenomorphs are terrifying, in the Warhammer 40k universe, Aliens/Xenomorphs are a mild irritation, like a mouse nest in your house wall or floor cavity, irritating yes!! But very easy to deal with.

[@xxXBig_BenXxx]

@@thewanderingfool4435 well, still a tragedy to have to blow up a planet over, but like you say, manageable

[@glizzy2.O]

100 percent. Without this they have nothing in 40k.

[@lordhelwintr283]

@@xxXBig_BenXxx well depends on who comes to the planet’s defense first. A space marine chapter would send a company or two with support from the PDF to eradicate the infestation. But you could also get a Inquisitor that has better things to do so he orders exterminatus.

[@dragonlord498]

I really think all factions in 40k would fairly easily wipe out any alien nests or infestation that pops up given how low tier aliens are outside their verse

[@legendaryfrolox6285]

Idk man if a facehugger could potentially get an ork wouldn't it also gain the ability to produce through spores as well?

[@dragonlord498]

@@legendaryfrolox6285 probably not given seems from what I know orcs for one thing too strong for a facehugger to over power even with surprise, nor do xenonorphs from my knowledge inherit more then fairly basic physical traits and if they could inherit other means of reproduction they wouldn't a species that is dependent on other species to reproduce parasitically by now so I feel that it's 100% unlikely in the off chance a facehugger did manage to implant in a orc it wouldn't inherit the spore reproductive method

[@malaysiaball4084]

​@@legendaryfrolox6285 possible but if an ork thinks they can't get impregnated then they can't.

[@jakelevinson7802]

I think it’s your needs are almost like glass. Cannon swear if they get lucky. Thay can just annihilate everyone very fast but if whatever faction find them are able to act quickly, yeah they could tear them up to shreds, but be fun to see what would happen if they were able to get a terinida or if theterinds to get them, forgive my spelling, I’m really dyslexic

[@Strawberrymilkdrink]

​@@legendaryfrolox6285 nah orks are massive the facehugger just wouldnt fit and would probably get eaten. their best bet would be to get on a gene stealer hell it would only be an upgrade for the xenomorph. although who knows how they would react to the hive mind

[@threshngo]

In short: Tyranids but easier to kill

[@thewanderingfool4435]

A lot easier, even the weakest form of Tyranid would pose a massive threat to an Alien/Xenomorph.

[@threshngo]

@@thewanderingfool4435 When other future sci-fi series trying to compare itself to 40K, I'm like: "Yeah, that's cute."

[@thewanderingfool4435]

@@threshngo Exactly!! I love a lot of other sci-fi franchises, but nothing else compares to the brutality & menace of the Warhammer 40k universe and i don't say this because 40k is my favourite sci-fi franchise! But lets be honest though nothing is as badass as the 40k universe, everything in 40k is devastating, brutal and overpowered and the whole universe is literally a living Hell compared to other sci-fi's. lol

[@threshngo]

@@thewanderingfool4435 The Emperor Protects!

[@thewanderingfool4435]

@@threshngo And "Death to the Heretic!" lol👍

[@flithbrin]

I think they'd be a play thing for the orks similar to the predators. the orks would probably make xenomorph ork queens on purpose for fun

[@ds2781]

If the xenomorph were to get the orks abilities they would quickly become a very serious problem for everyone with their mob mentality reality warping abilities and the fact orks reproduce using spores . With the ork spores they would no longer need host's to reproduce and orks never stop growing in size , strength and intelligence .

[@flithbrin]

@@ds2781 I never said it was a good idea or not a problem, I just said that I think orks would do it on purpose for fun.

[@Engifarting456]

@@ds2781 let also give em tyranid dna and demon dna (even if its not possible) because why not. so they can be even more united and everytime one dies it comes back while still reproducing 😃

[@ds2781]

@@Engifarting456 If they get the ork spore's and they work similar to the xenomorph spore's in Alien: Covenant they will automatically win whenever they get on a planet , unless they are burned out immediately . The only way you would be able to stop them would be to vaporize whatever part of the planet they are inhabiting at that time . Because the orks are constantly releasing their spore's when they are alive and they release a huge burst of them when they die . The xenomorph's would be increasing their numbers from the spore's that would grow in the ground and from the spore's that get inhaled by any person or animal . This would lead to an absurd and horrifying number of variant's amongst the xenomorph's that could quickly lead to them becoming and even greater threat than even the tyranid's .

[@kg3451]

The orks would definitely find it hilarious if a big worm looking thing burst out of one of the boys chest out of nowhere.

[@peterwhite6415]

Yeah i honeslty see the Xenomorph just becoming a "Pest" problem in WH40K. Eldar would likely use them to try and farm Royal Jelly (a material if used in large amounts can potential create a royal facehugger or allow a pratorean to evolve into a Queen), thou the Jelly would likely become a drug in the Imperium aswell, at least in the blackmarket. Tyrannids would just a tiny boost but we problaby have a similar situation like in the "Genocide" comic (2 difernet hives at war). Beyond that, Xenomorphs are vulnerable to sonic weapons, certain diseases and spores (Wich weve seen at least 2 examples of it in the comics) and other chemical weapons. Only side that wins from the xenomorph addition is maybe Chaos: - Khorne gets warriors who bleed acid and pretty fucking brutal - Tzeetch gets a hivemind to play covert games and fuck with people - Nurgle gets new plague carriers that can spread like wildfire (a single Xeno is a problem) - Slaanesh... Yeah, your answers is in R34 Xenomorph section.

[@Korija2029]

As Slaanesh follower, nice!

[@Korija2029]

Just imagined nurge follower with xenomorph growing out of them like tumour.

[@Miraihi]

Rudy Giger would approve Slaaneshi xenomorphs

[@aprinnyonbreak1290]

Orks would benefit, too. Dem spindly xenogitz is right crunchy and spicy, even bettah den eatin' squigz.

[@sebastianrubin7476]

I would argue that Xenomorphs just aren't numerous enough, nor would they have the psychic footprint, to actually add anything of note to the Dark Gods' forces.

[@pixelgun4789]

Honestly I think they would die out fast. Unless they would be in hive city. Chaos would be counterblock. If chaos daemon dies, his esence returns to the warp. If daemon would get chestbustered, newly born xenomorph would be controlled by their patron god for sure. Chaos xenomorphs would be different threat if they would really exist. But then I do not see any facehugger impregnating greater daemons or lesser daemons to be honest.

[@braindent6464]

idk, it could happen. they could underestimate the little dude on a first encounter and lean too close. maybe greater daemons could shrug it off, but a lesser one might fall prey to it

[@jacksbob8746]

A slannesh demonette might be impregnated but im more horrified how it will happened than the actually violence a xonemorph demom hybrid can cause.

[@ScarletL1on]

Basically, giant rats))

[@dantewilliams2757]

Literally no daemon would be impregnated they are made of pure warp stuff they don’t have the same anatomies of mortal creatures any embryo that somehow does get inside a daemon would simply be mutated, rotted, burned ,or simply disintegrated

[@rory8182]

@@jacksbob8746 a slaanesh demonette may be intentionally impregnated

[@DefinitelyFroggyDioBrando]

They're also rather vulnerable to fire from what I remember, so salamanders might just hunt these guys if they're found

[@Commander_Boreale]

a single lasgun shot is enough to pop a xenomorph, they aren't very durable in the lore. You would need a plasma/melta gun for the Praetorian, but they are very few.

[@alienstar2088]

Let's be honest, Orks are definitely the first species Xenomorphs are going to sprout from. They already have face eating Squig competitions, they'd probably just put a facehugger on themselves to see if they can eat it before it impregnates them - or I guess they'd just wait for the chestburster to pop out to make it a fancy scarf. Orks are weird.

[@epicwaba6424]

Orks are just better Xenomorphs. Tougher, better tech, and don’t need a lengthy hosting process to reproduce. Both are bioweapons, ironically.

[@unnamed1613]

I wonder if Xenomorphs could even impragnate Orks since they are technically plants, not meatbags.

[@alienstar2088]

@@unnamed1613 Well, considering that Genestealers can infect Orks, I assume Xenomorphs can as well. Remember, Orks are just as much animal as they are plant.

[@theenderdestruction2362]

​@@alienstar2088genestealers are also from an ever evolving thing

[@alienstar2088]

@@theenderdestruction2362 I mean, I would doubt that just because Orks are technically fungi that that would stop a Xenomorph from spawning from an Ork. After all, the individual Xenomorph is just as adaptive in it's infancy as the entirety of the Tyranid Hive Mind. We see Xenomorphs from many different creatures including those of alien origin so, I would imagine XenOrks would be a thing.

[@evolve117]

Best place xenomorphs can be on is a Space hulk. They just become glorified genestealers. Although they are on a space hulk and will need to fight against the Genestealers in order to survive until Terminators appear.

[@aprinnyonbreak1290]

Mmmm. Genestealers getting facehugged. Xenomorphs getting their genes stolen. Those terminators will be lucky if there's not already a Keeper of Secrets online when they get there

[@Michael-bn1oi]

Much weaker than genestealers

[@louiscypher4186]

@@aprinnyonbreak1290 I don't see the Genestealers getting facehugged. Not only their face full of teeth, but in the space hulk game they are able to operate in areas without atmosphere. So they wouldn't black out from being strangled.

[@relativelylucky1454]

@@louiscypher4186 people who are face hugged pass out not from strangulation but because the facehugger releases a sleeping agent through its skin

[@ImperialHell172]

In case no one knew, there’s actually a small reference to the Xenomorphs in Battlefleet Gothic 2. Basically the planet description says that the Imperium found a very parasitic life form during the great crusade and was only able to completely eliminate it through sustained orbital bombardment

[@347Jimmy]

"Take off, nuke the entire site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure."

[@lolstalgic9602]

Australian Spiders?

[@trevordenver9877]

Deathwatch: hold my beer

[@davidhytha9828]

Xenomorphs are also vulnerable to certain strain of spore, it was with Church character if i am not mistaken. So bio-weapons against them are a valid option. They could bully some unknown empires and lesser races for sure, but no major leagues.

[@kingmasterlord]

what if they're able to grow and spread unchecked to at least the point of forming a hiveworld with a Queen Mother?

[@ByTheThroneworld]

@@kingmasterlord Inquisitor: looking happiely at the exterminatus button :)

[@noobatgames3321]

​@@ByTheThroneworld a space marine strike team would work fine to kill thw queen

[@guywholikesgoodmusic]

@@kingmasterlord Then they're still less of a threat than the smallest hive fleet of Nids...

[@Korija2029]

Laughs in enthopic, field gene absorbtion, mass mind control, etc.. even minor races are ridicolous.

[@SmolAndAngyyy]

The two main factors would definitely be how strong the acid blood is translated into the 40k universe and, more importantly in my opinion, what kind of horrifying monstrosities could be created if a facehugger could impregnable say someone of the chaos faction for example.

[@aprinnyonbreak1290]

I... don't know if a xenomorph could infest a demon. Xenomorph infestation entails tapping nutrients from the host to foster growth. I don't know if daemons have anything that qualifies as nutrition in their bodies. Nurgle might feed one anyways. But. An Ork, Squiggoth, or maybe a Knarloc would make something interesting though, for sure

[@MD-yd8lh]

Xenomorphs better stay away from chaos 😊

[@updfdrakkell143]

see my lil rant above

[@Jalbesbe]

It really depends on what mutations they will get from their host. Say if they impregnated an ork, they might get the spore ability of the orks and have a new way of reproduction, spores infecting other living beings. Maybe they get the Waaaagh and have some other weird stuff happen. Xenomorphs are already telepathic to eachother, if they impregnate an eldar they could boost this ability ten fold. If they just stay as they are now they would just be a minor inconvenience. However they do have something that would make the Tyranids more deadly. Since Xenomorphs can basically make biomass straight from the queen basically consuming energy, as their entire hive structure is usually made around an energy source and it begins to build its flesh from that. Tyranids consuming xenomorph essence would added to the Nyids spawn rate, they might even begin eating stars for the energy.

[@sleepyspartan1367]

I don't know. Depending on the race they might actually become a galactic threat. If a xenomorph got access to the web way, demons ability to phase in and out of reality or the waa energy then there's a chance. The only issue is they aren't intelligent enough to use space travel. But if they found something that could open physical paths then there'd be trouble

[@GM-vt6is]

Im fairly certain a xenomorph couldnt use a deamon to spawn from, as deamons arent really 'there', nor do they have any organs or substance - they are just undifferentiated matter, until they decohere (im not talking about possessed here, but straight up deamons like bloodletters or plaguebearers).

[@sleepyspartan1367]

@@GM-vt6is I personally haven't seen whether read or seen anything where you fight demons (probably only know like 5% of whammer 40k lore, i.e. enough that friend was surprised when I said I wasn't an expert) but if you recall any chest burster scene then you'll remember that you only die after they burrow out of the chest. Meaning the demon has a physical for the time they are incubating. As for flesh, I don't think a xenomorph cares. To them food is food. Also, I feel anything Nergual would kill any embryo

[@amazingdoorbob5458]

Orc, psyker, and Tyranid xenomorphs would all exist, and the would all be terrifying. Don't forget the acid shower that follows anyone using melee on them. I don't think they would pose a massive threat to any faction, but they wouldn't just get mowed down and be done with.

[@epicwaba6424]

Psyker Xenomorphs couldn’t exist. Psychic powers are based on emotional “soul power”, something simple creatures like Orks or most Tyranids don’t possess. I’m not up on my Alien lore, but I believe they do not have a LITERAL hive mind like Tyranids. Xenomorphs are compelled to collaborate and can communicate nonverbally, but they are all individuals. Tyranids are almost all under direct mental control, and when that is severed they go feral. Point being, Xenos have much weaker minds and could not draw much power from the Warp.

[@amazingdoorbob5458]

@@epicwaba6424 uuuuum all orks have latent psyker powers, they just can't control it. Red things actually go faster for orks because that's what they believe, that's been confirmed to be a latent psychic ability. Weirdboyz are the only ones that can actually use it though. Also, there have been xenomorphs with psychic powers, it's in one of the many crossovers. A bunch of super powered individuals become infected and each xeno gets, not only the power of the host, but they are very good at using it. True their limited intelligence would hinder them quite a bit, but a queen could help them focus their abilities, as the queen has been shown to be just as intelligent as a human.

[@epicwaba6424]

@@amazingdoorbob5458 A single Ork has a very weak soul, but there is never just a single Ork. Their reality manipulation abilities draw from "Waaagh energy", which is the collective "pool" of all Ork souls in their warband/Waaagh/general vicinity. Even outright Ork psykers like Weirdboyz are simply drawing from that pool, not from their own souls like Aeldari or Human psykers. I'm not sure if we should count the many crossovers as canon, but this video is referencing Colonial Marines which is movie universe canon. If we're going off crossover rules, then sure, Xenomorphs could get psychic abilities. It's just a bit of fun, but I like overthinking these things. Whether psychic abilities are a purely genetic trait is a bit ambiguous in 40k. There are definitely genetic aptitudes toward it, which Xenomorphs could copy. They could also copy warp-related mutations like the Navigator gene. But I think even if they copied a heavily psychic race like the Aeldari, the soul of a drone would be even weaker than an Ork. Orks talk, have emotions, have culture, and have a sense of self preservation or greed. These traits give them some potency, even if they are all so simpleminded. A baseline Xenomorph would be comparable to a Genestealer in intelligence, which makes sense considering Xenomorphs were the direct inspiration for them. But you make a good point about Queens having more intelligence. Maybe in a way similar to how Genestealers are not psychic, but Patriarchs are. If a Queen gained an understanding of how psychic abilities worked and managed to take a psyker alive, it could impregnate it with a Royal Facehugger and likely create a psychic Queen. But perhaps that would open them up to the influence of Chaos...

[@chrisdam4027]

Tyranids going, 'Yo, free biomass'.

[@whydontyouhandledeez]

I barely remember Covenant but if Xenomorphs are implied to still be able to evolve based on who they pop out of you could get some interesting combos if a facehugger managed to throatpie like an orc or a tyranid or something.

[@347Jimmy]

Variation in the adult based on what chest it popped out of goes back as far as Alien 3, what with the weird dog-xenomorph, so it should be canon regardless of the prequels or AvP films 🤷‍♂️ It's definitely a thing in other materials (books, comics, etc)

[@american_jackal5956]

The fact that there are multiple instances of Nids being defeated pretty much closes the case. Nids are xenomorphs kicked into 12th gear, and even they get overwhelmed (though admittedly, they probably win most of the time, and the word just never gets out because they just eat the entire planet).

[@khazngray]

I think they would pop up, cause havoc, get wiped out when the guard show up, but a few guard get facehugged, and it starts all over. They wont stand up to any real imperial attention but theyds always sneak through the cracks to try again.

[@tau-5794]

Except any guardsmen who gets seen with a facehugger attached is getting shot, and anyone who reports getting face hugged is also getting shot, or isolated. Unlike genestealers, xenomorphs don't have the luxury of mind controlling whoever they infect to forget about being infected, so unless it's against people who have literally never heard of them, the xenos won't get far.

[@enzotoro791]

An Inquisitor of the Xenos horde: Damn these things are so annoying, just call in a Culexus assassin or an Everson and get this over with fast

[@enzotoro791]

For Context: Everson's Assassins are know for having more drugs than blood in there bodies and if You Kill one of them, they just explode a miniature sun in your face. Culexus are just Torture, they are called "The physical manifestation of evil", been just in the same room with a Culexus is so unbearable that an imperial guard preferred to blow his brains out rather than continue to close 1 second more to the assassin

[@-AxisA-]

There already are Xenomoprhs in the 40K universe. They're called the Tyrnaids😄

[@Korija2029]

Just genestealers.

[@inguunenkhtaivan9146]

And even the Tyranids know how to use ships and cannons.

[@gottagofastest]

@@Korija2029 Not just that they're all doing chestburster shenanigans, Zoanthropes are using Eldar DNA, Tyrant Guard from Space Marine DNA, Biovores use Ork DNA

[@Squishysforbreakfast]

Worst case scenario would be them getting into the webway and able to manipulate it so they can pop up in different parts of the galaxy. I could see the dark eldar really liking them and that could be their way in.

[@Korija2029]

Dark eldar taming Xenomorphs? Sounds like 40k alright and it would be even possiblr with all the other nasties they tamed (looks at mind controlling parasite causing extreme pain, with brain transfers all those sensations to one who ate it).

[@Squishysforbreakfast]

@Jakub Kořínek maybe not train in this case but they have like a gladiator arena in commorrogh. Plus their acid blood could be used for different things.

[@Korija2029]

@@Squishysforbreakfast you clearly did not seen dark eldar bestiary, and some of their troops are their tortured victims. And they would nit care about losses of life as they can ressurect themselves as long as they leave part of themselves at their resident mad scientists, i can see them torturing queen to obidience, or bribing her, and any eldar based xenomorph would be most likely quickly grabbed by slaanesh. Heck i can see them using facehuggers as recreation. Remember they consider eating thing that beams to your brain decated of torture gourment food. And some gets their personality and individuality wiped for sime time for kicks.

[@DefinitelyNotAMachineCultist]

@@Squishysforbreakfast No, they can absolutely be tamed/trained if we're counting the comic book versions here. There's one story with a human military officer having his troops hold a queen and her eggs hostage. Burning one egg every time a Xenomorph is not obedient (there's a lot of eggs). That works until some other humans botch the plan IIRC. Dark Eldar would be more competent and sophisticated with their methods. They could absolutely tame those things. They also have easy access to interesting prisoners/hosts. Remember the Predalien? Now think of what could occur if a facehugger reached a captured Space Marine Librarian, Eldar Psyker, or humanoid Chaos abomination. The Dark Eldar even (probably) have access to the corpse or wounded body of the Custodes Navradaran. Can't imagine any number of regular Xenomorphs bringing down a Custodes, but imagine if Dark Eldar tech could bring the corpse or a clone of it with a disabled nervous system to a point where it could be impregnated? Custodes-Xenomorph and Psyker-Xenomorph hybrids would be terrifying. Plus, I can imagine the Xenos capturing some hapless human psyker in a hive city by themselves before the black ships could kidnap them.

[@Squishysforbreakfast]

@DefinitelyNotAMachineCultist I could see them biting off more than they can chew and the xenomorphs getting the upper hand. Just before Jhagatai Khan gets to Comorragh

[@LamborghiniDiabloSVPursuit]

The funniest part about implanting an Ork is that, because of their physiology: its entire possible for the chestburster to rip themselves out, and the Ork in question will survive and just treat it as a minor inconvenience, before chasing the chestburster by mistaking it for a new type of squig.

[@epicwaba6424]

I never even considered this, but you’re totally right. Orks don’t need an intact stomach or chest.

[@RJALEXANDER777]

"Huh. Dat smarted sometin' fierce. Betta go to da pain boy 'bout dis 'ere 'ole in me front."

[@curts7801]

Because of the shiny new orkoid DNA now a part of them, the xenomorphs would literally be a new strain of squig. And every squig, no matter how savage and mighty, can be domesticated. Give it a few years and the Orks would deploy their shiny new xenomorphs into battle right alongside the boyz. The smarter bosses would deploy them as black ops forces. I’m telling you, the Orks domesticate the xenomorphs, and the xenomorphs become far deadlier (and safer) for it.

[@dickassley5171]

I think that like genestealers they would eventually be a pest found in all corners of the galaxy in the bowels of hive cities and space hulks, but they wouldn't really be able to rise to being a real galactic power, more so an incredibly deadly inconvenience

[@epicwaba6424]

Genestealers are smart in ways that Xenomorphs just aren’t. When connected to the hive mind they can subvert entire societies, even Astartes homeworlds. While they’re similar in physical ability, Genestealers have goals beyond simple reproduction.

[@thatfiremanguy3033]

It’s like a really big ant in the WH40K universe

[@90skidcultist]

@@thatfiremanguy3033 Genestealers are actually a major threat, though!💀

[@Engifarting456]

imagine the tyranids getting dna of xenomorphs

[@thewanderingfool4435]

The Tyranids already create corrosive bio-weapons & forms, they also create energy & projectile weapons and create faster, stronger, smarter, more versatile soldiers, plus they have flying forms and can independently travel through space. Tyranids are also way better at multiplying as they don't require a living host, they just require bio-matter living or dead and from any source; Aliens/Xenomorphs are cool but would add nothing to the Tyranids gene pool, nothing that they don't either already have or have a better version of IMHO. Still love the Aliens/Xenomorphs though.😃👍

[@matthewgibbs6886]

they already have muhahahahaha

[@Whitewing89]

I can't think of anything xenomorphs do that tyranids can't.

[@thewanderingfool4435]

@@Whitewing89 Xenomorphs are Teddy Bears compared to Tyranids and i say this as a huge Xenomorph fan. Xenomorphs would just be Biomass/food for the Tyranids if they ever encountered each other.

[@phil3751]

@@Whitewing89 the acid blood of xenomorphs is several times stronger than the tyranids

[@zacharyzier314]

Basically a main character Space Marine who is too cool to wear their helmet could make one of the most lethal types of Xenomorphs out there. Imagine a Xenomorph with the powers of a hyped-up Astartes, terrifying…

[@enzotoro791]

Try with a Eldar Phoenix Warrior, they are like Primarcs but Space Elf instead of Space Traumatized Humans

[@yamato9753]

Or even worse, imagine they get their facehuggers on a custodes.

[@whitemiasma5288]

Na, Space Marine's metabolism too high.

[@epicwaba6424]

@@enzotoro791 Don’t think that a Xenomorph would get any of the psychic abilities of their “host,” since that’s tied to their soul

[@Dragunov0511]

First of all, i doubt a facehugger is strong enough to impregnate a Space Marine, even if it got close enough, which is unlikely to begin with, an astartes would just take it off his face easily. That's assuming that the space marine doesn't have a helmet. Second, astartes have extremely evolved immune systems, which would probably just eliminate the xeno embrio. Third, all astartes have the black carrapace, and extremely strong bones, not to mention fused ribcages, so the alien couldn't get out. Also, it's very likely even if an astartes would get, somehow impregnated by a facehugger and the alien would somehow get out, it's very possible the astartes would survive the alien birth and just kill the embrio when it hatches.

[@Blundabus1337]

I'd like to see a chest burster attempt to burst out of a astartes in power armor.

[@elgrun2913]

It would burst through ceramite with ease. If facehugger impragnates a Space Marine then you get a Space Marine Chestburster. So let's say that Xenomorphs are 10× stronger than the host. Now you have a xeno 10× stronger than an Astartes.

[@darklight79797]

​@@elgrun2913 that's seriously scary to comprehend

[@elgrun2913]

@@darklight79797 Yeah, that's basically their only redeeming quality - they take OP things from nature and make them 10× more OP. In 40k they would be seen only as pest or cattle, unless they can lay hands on some OP creatures from the universe.

[@goatmagnum]

The biggest issue is their capabilities of intergalactic and warp travel, or lack thereof. On isolated planets with little to no means of outside contact, they would dominate easily. However, that's easily fixed with a single exterminatus.

[@MrGustavevil]

'Nuke the whole site from orbit' is pretty standard for 40k.

[@gmanplaysgames256]

Xenomorphs modus operandi is pretty similar to that of Genestealers so they'd at least be able to subsist off of hive cities and space hulks

[@brobasticbroham446]

Imagine a xenomorph hatched from a Custodian.......yeah shit just got real.

[@ggrimmfield5529]

Ya but when i saw more of 40k's freakin op creatures that also already killed by Imperium, Xenomorphs are like a cake walk. Tbh honest i believe they can be a major treat at first but then ya discovering more 40k stuff that kinda blur out to me.

[@barbatosmcmurderton4209]

Literally any Death Watch Kill Team: "Hey, was it just me, or did that nest of pure strain Genestealers seem extra weak to everybody else too?"

[@epicwaba6424]

"I agree brother, it was strange how the Patriarch was stuck to the walls. And it didn't even use its psychic abilities!"

[@kamikaze4172]

I'd think they'd be pretty well off. Until they get hit with the Exterminatus (I'm not sure how that's spelled). But any of those armored behemoths sent down to deal with them are good if using range, and the aliens were smart enough to know their blood can cut through metal

[@some_shitposting_idiot3023]

Everything the xenomorphs can do the Tyranids do infinitely better So they'd be slaughtered pretty easily no matter how smart they are since they are 100% not even close to the Tyranid hive mind in intelligence

[@Kertierain]

You got it right

[@fireteamomega2343]

They are certainly smart enough in resurrection they killed one of their own just to melt through the floor to escape.

[@NotALot-xm6gz]

“Brother, fetch the Heavy Flamer!” Xenomorph problem solved in 30 seconds.

[@MrDerekdef34]

Xenomorphs(while nothing to scoff at)would be a pest at most. Pretty much every faction is more than capable of destroying or at least, curbing the population.

[@GiRR007]

It depends where they land I think. If they are put on a hive world that world is done for.

[@Korija2029]

​ necron cults, burried necron tombs, genestealers, rouge servitors, genestealer cults, chaos cults, scrap code infected machines, possesed machines, semi-hererical imperial cults, mutants, mutated animals, orks, mechanicum forces and overarmed gangs, lots of augs (cyborgs), yea i dont see that happening, just another danger to fight down there.

[@Aurea_Astrae]

The point is: unlike Tyranids, Xenomorphs can't form hive fleets, so they wouldn't be able to independently travel across the galaxy. Best they could do would be having a royal facehugger hide on a carrier and wait to reach the destination, but that could happen maybe a couple times before this was acknowledged and they were kept in check

[@Zilegil]

Genestealers are literally meant to just be Xenomorph. They procreate through other species, they're fast, stealthy, bulletproof. Originally they were meant to be completely separate from Tyranids - with nids being more like Zerg and Genestealers being more like Xenomorph

[@SarajevoKyoto]

Zerg originally WERE Tyranids until the Starcraft devs lost the 40k license, and both Tyranids and xenomorphs are based on the work of HR Giger.

[@RhantheSlayer]

Catachan: You call that a deadly species? My mum's squished bigger with her boot back home

[@jbark678]

There's a ton of similarly dangerous organisms in 40k. They'd probably do okay chilling on a few death worlds, maybe a couple of underhives. If they got their hands on an Ork, Eldar, or Astartes, they'd probably get focused by those factions and wiped out.

[@DemitriVladMaximov]

Small arms fire can't kill a xenomorph, in fact their exoskeleton can stop a 44 magnum round easily. The reason the Colonial Marine's guns worked was they fire armor penetrating explosive rounds that not only could get through the exoskeleton, but also did massive internal damage underneath the armor. As for lazguns, the crew of the Nostromo had laser weapons and were going to use them in some scenes where it did cut through the alien, but the alien not only was unaffected by the damage but healed what little damage it got. Now this was retconned in Aliens: Fireteam Elite as you can use the laser pistol, but if any energy weapon is used it needs to not only slice through the xenomorph, but also cause massive internal damage like microwaving a cockroach.

[@SarajevoKyoto]

So lasguns may or may not be effective, but bolters oughta work just fine

[@DemitriVladMaximov]

@@SarajevoKyoto Commissar Gamza did a fantastic breakdown on how terrifying a xenomorph outbreak would be in Warhammer 40K. Bolters would work better than lasguns, but the reproductive rate mixed with the weakness of the sheer size of the imperium makes xenomorph terrifying. Remember it takes a lifetime to make a genestealer, but only a day for a xenomorph to go from facehugger, through chestburster, to full grown xenomorph.

[@chaimafaghet7343]

@@SarajevoKyoto Lasguns would absolutely be effective. They're only weak by 40K standards. On the armour side thick enough kevlar can stop a .44 mag, i.e. the shitty flak vests the Guard get issued en masse and in 40K are literally less protection than praying.

[@robrib2682]

the assassins accidently made a smart version of this. it stole a ship and we don't know where it is until it becomes not cannon, because it learned how to pilot a spaceship over a few days. Edit: but I feel these things would fall under "gribbly xenofauna" and if 40k had them, the imperium would use them on alien planets as a "come back in 300 years" way of dealing with xenos worlds or harvest them for the royal jelly (remember what it made unaugmented humans capable of from the drugs they made of that) and for their acid blood

[@enzotoro791]

You mean the Tyranid-Human Hybrid that almost Kill Lysander and get dusted by his cool Black sword? :0

[@ryanhampson673]

“They could stick around for the long haul” Heresy HERESY!!! EXTERMINATUS!!!!!

[@icspps]

You're comparing them to the heavyweights of like Space Marines or the Imperial Guard. Yeah, they'd struggle against a fortress world, put Xenomorphs into a hive world, and they can end the planet before humans even knew what was happening.

[@Korija2029]

You dont know what is crawling at bottom of hive worlds do you?

[@NyokaPyre]

Even if a Xenomorph gets lucky and only has to deal with a Hive Worlds inhabitants, no GSC, no Guard, no nearby chapters and/or it's in a High Terra blindspot, or it's not a secret Tomb World or anything like that, you're talking about a single planet threat. And that's the best case scenario. The second a Xenomorph comes into contact with any other faction, that's pretty much the ballgame. Acid blood is nice but definitely not a new concept in the 40k universe. The only way they have a 'lasting presence' is if Trazyn happens upon one and whisks it away to his museum. An interesting footnote and nothing more.

[@NyokaPyre]

Power levels in 40k scale, at minimum, galactically.

[@phil3751]

@@NyokaPyre xenomorphs are smarter than you give them credit Their queens have an IQ of 275, they'll sneak an egg or drone on a trade ship and the cycle starts again, that's how they spread

[@chaimafaghet7343]

@@phil3751 In 40K the Alien is just a dumber, weaker Genestealer without any psychic powers.

[@boomsticknation4306]

“The Praetorian is the strongest Xenomorph” my nerd is going off.

[@DLAJester]

I’ve always felt like Tyranids are essentially militarized xenomorphs. They operate extremely similarly, but the Tyranids have multiple castes that are specifically for all out war. Xenomorphs are terrifying in our universe (especially because as an organism they are actually pretty scientifically realistic). But in the super war-torn far flung fantasy future of Warhammer 40k, they probably wouldn’t last very long…

[@Cavscout5096]

One word for a planet infested with Xenomorphs.... EXTERMINATUS.

[@ParkerDai]

Good content, subscribed

[@thebigbadevilguy71]

Thank you 🎉

[@TTTac]

Not gonna lie I was looking for 'Ribbed for your pleasure" joke on the xenomorph evolutions

[@ronindraco4194]

It has Xeno in it’s name… it aint gonna survive for long…

[@dog_boy5123]

Does anything NOT supernatural even surive that long in 40k?

[@enzotoro791]

​@@dog_boy5123 No, even the humans have machines that rejuvenate them so they can live longer

[@SarajevoKyoto]

What about the multiple xenos empires happily existing in the 41st millenium? Necrons, T'au, Orks, Aeldari, Drukhari, Tyranids, all more or less thriving

[@helvis7336]

christ, can you just imagine what a xenomorph would look like if it had a genetically altered space marine as its host!

[@ChaseDaOrk3767]

How might the Necromorphs fair well in 40k?

[@thebigbadevilguy71]

I have a video on them too

[@ChaseDaOrk3767]

@@thebigbadevilguy71 Nice, I'll be sure to check it out

[@ChaseDaOrk3767]

Also do you plan on making a video on how might The Flood from Halo could survive in 40k?

[@TronUse999]

If they even been noticed they will be considered invasive wildlife at best

[@ricaroanimar6695]

I wonder if Orks would be more help or hell for them They regrow indefinitely wich is unending food But also unending war on the nest. And Orks are beefy and get stronger the more they fight They might breed the strongest Orks since a long time.

[@curts7801]

Because the xenomorphs incorporate their hosts genes to an extent, the resulting xenomorphs would be partly orkoid in nature. Every last orkoid can be domesticated. The xenomorphs would be domesticated, partly as a source for violent high stakes fights, and partly as a legitimate weapon of war. Breeding the biggest and meanest praetorians and queen mothers would be a source of pride and achievement for the Snake Bite clans. Not to mention that the new orkoid xenomorphs would be able to spread new xenomorphs by spores alone. Xenomorphs and all the rest of the orkoid species.

[@somehistorynerdsalt7932]

I feel like one thing people don't note is: What if a Facehugger managed to impregnate a Space Marine, because imagine a Xenomorph birthed from a Spacemarine

[@ciceroblackthorne3607]

I wonder if the xenomorphs could be infected by tyranid spores. Could queens fall to chaos? Imagine a khornate hive lol

[@epicwaba6424]

I think Xenomorphs would get folded into the Tyranid hivemind pretty quickly. Remember there are no true “natural” Tyranids. They don’t just use biomass, they take genetic information and copy traits of different species. In that way, the two are very similar to each other. Xenomorphs may even willingly join the Hive Mind, considering it’s a win-win. All they want is to reproduce, and as part of the Tyranids they would expand immensely. But for that reason I don’t think Queen could fall to Chaos, even if we consider them to have a human-level intelligence and soul. Queens don’t have many emotions, they just want their hive to expand. Sure, they may get angry when threatened, but that’s hardly self-destructive Khornate bloodlust.

[@SwordTune]

Xenomorph nest pops up The Imperium: Another one? Add it to the queue.

[@AlphariusXX426]

Yeah that makes sense but warhammer 40k is more dangerous than any type of sci-fi universe they have chaos god and big ass bug and the hive mind which is the most godlike entity I have ever read about so the xenomorphs will not survive in 40k and the Egyptian space robots will just kill them those things never die😮

[@davidhytha9828]

Necrons would get nefred again before that would happen. I was told good old Fabius chestbursted out of necron lord and i am to scared to fact check with lore out of fear it was true.

[@Dan-zc3ou]

People be talking about crossover fanfics without realizing it

[@ethanpitts1184]

The notion of a psyker alien scares me.

[@Venim85]

Salamanders be like, "let me introduce you to fire."

[@razorhollow4936]

Fun fact about the royal facehugger. It Has multiple Embryos within it so It can create drones to protect the queen before the queen develops. Since the queen takes significantly longer to develop than Drones.

[@roysmoothfinger]

I love the idea of them and the predators being on a small system not able to do planetary travel locked in perpetual war and some visitors bringing a facehugger back to a human planet for a side story. Kind of the normal movies but in a hive city

[@target4all766]

Spacemarines:oh come on!(sighns) WE have to do Pest control duty again!?

[@chickenjoe427]

to be honest xenomorphs would just be unnamed xenos in this universe

[@vltraviolence7640]

Hive mind: immediately gives the queen seizures

[@CyberController-]

Sounds like a family hunting trip on Catachan.

[@15DEAN1995]

i never really thought about it but yeah the xenomorphs are probably the most influential aliens in fiction

[@thehermitman822]

I figure Ork-Xenomorphs would wind up killing each other from constant in-fighting and acidic blood mishaps.

[@HiddelS143]

The only thing necromorphs and xenomorphs have in common is the fact that their names end in morph and they like to crawl around in vents.

[@smartyshorts3733]

Canon wise, they are pretty tough. The weapons used by colonial marines arent regular small arms. The pulse rifle in alien lore has armour piercing exploding rounds. So even the bolter was possibly inspired by Aliens. This is the reason you can't kill the xenomorph in alien isolation. Not even the shotgun is strong enouph. Also, they take the traits of the host species when reproducing. Sooooo, honestly the skies the limit with what crazy shit they might become using traits from 40k. Chaos psyker xenomorphs, I dunno.

[@delta8989]

Remember that the xenomorphs can be “easily” taken down by our guns, in warhammer the weapon that all guardsmen use and refer at is as “the flashlight” due how useless it is against the threats they face can rip of limbs in a single shot, so the xenomorphs would quickly go extinct

[@fireteamomega2343]

Assuming you get a chance to shoot at them before they drop on you. Guerrilla tactics will always even the technology gap.

[@MyManMako]

I think that even a gene sneaker cult could deal with this sort of competition.

[@Dinosaurman34]

Xenomorphs are essentially low tier tyranids. I think they’d survive fairly well, especially in a hive city or if they’re integrated into the tyranids. Imagine if they get their hands on a psycher.

[@voin5371]

Honestly, I see their greatest strength being the under hives or isolated planets, but once they’re discovered as a infestation all it’s gonna take is some human bait and a Taurantula turret to deal with them. And unlike in the Alien universe, most of not all factions are ruthless enough to wipe them out and not worry about a few casualties to scorching the planet cause it’s easier that way, I wouldn’t even be surprised if say, the Necrons, hunted them for giggles

[@mikewaterfield3599]

Not well, the Imperium already believes in nuking sites from orbit. “It’s the only way to be sure.”

[@chaimafaghet7343]

Nuke EVERY site from orbit and ignite the atmosphere, it's the only way to be sure.

[@mutanthybrid3466]

This is why the Tyranids were developed.. Something Alien-like that had more depth and greater threat level due to an overarching hive mind across the entire species.

[@informationyes]

They would only surive as a hidden threat, as a frontal threat they would just get ripped to peaces

[@envynemo4170]

one of the novels touches on the fact they do have psychic abilities too.

[@gabbagoulianmafia]

They get a single orc they win, they then just manipulate reality

[@55elledge]

Any face hugger can probably produce a queen. It starts as a regular xeno, but without a queen, if produces royal jelly via hormonal changes.

[@ScarletL1on]

They would basically be pests. Like the ant colony that crawled in the house

[@codyt.1905]

As a writer, you can plot your way into anything. Have a queen face hugger get something truly powerful, and you just get a different flavour of the tyrannids, sort of like a tyrannid origin story.

[@l.pricetag.5207]

There was actually one comic where three xenomorph queens ran a hive in unison...

[@shadowjack239]

2:54 I give them 9 - 12 *years* on a small backwater, and 9 - 12 *weeks* anywhere else. I give them 9 - 12 *minutes* if the Space Marines find them, and that includes the Marines breaking for lunch.

[@The_Dying_Rose]

This would be a neat army. Eggs are landmines that kill opponents stuff and give you more Xeno (literally) they would be best in combat, and getting killed is also part of their gameplan, because you can get new ones from the eggs, damage enemies with acidic blood(kind of like an explosion, but smaller and almost everyone one of them dies) the only downside would be low health, and lack of good shooting stuff. I'm sure they can spit acid or something, but that isn't really that helpful when your opponents are firing redbull can sized explosive bullets at you. The xenomorphs would make a neat melee based faction. The queen could even create more eggs on the battlefield, and if an egg/ face hugger kills an enemies it could gain a boost or melee style of that enemies.(like attacking as if it had a chainsword, but it's not holding a real chainsword) the only thing needed would be to buff up their health so they don't get killed by a glancing look from a space marine

[@DarkCatfish]

Would probably thrive in 40k but it definitely has competition

[@537monster]

The thing that xenomorphs do that’s actually scary in the 40k universe is their ability to alter their genome by impregnating different species. The ones we see in the universe of Alien only come from regular humans, but imagine what would happen if they somehow impregnated an Astartes or Eldar… that would be some scary shit.

[@Tucher97]

Before the video start, the question is dependant, as on a hive city the Xenos would spread to a considerable threat before the entire area is put under exterminatoous, however the choice of hosts is very limiting and at best may get consumed by hidden tyranids. So at the end of the day by Warhammer standards, its like stomping out some infectious roaches.

[@Stronghand-yw1lk]

Xenomorph: see tyranids codex.

[@skibidibopmmmdada946]

Tyranids: yum yum spicy food

[@42Nightsyesterday]

Just the fact that they don’t have interstellar travel I think knocks them out from having any chance at all

[@ToxicBastard]

As soon as they infest the locals it's going to get complicated. Xenomorphs have a LOT of alternate subspecies in the various canons, with so many hosts it could get weird, like those Kenner toy ads.

[@kingj521]

I had to break up with my ex. Because one time we was watching Alien I forgot which one but I noticed whenever she seen that elongated head. She would look super excited. Then when she looked at me she looked disappointed. So I had to call that off.

[@kennethpaschall6811]

Thing is the first one of the new variant becomes a new queen and they keep getting stronger with every generation from every species they get ahold of

[@tempestflare4339]

This is literally just the tyranids xenomorphs and the tyranids are literally a one-to-one analogy

[@cheekguardian1378]

This thing was taller and stronger than even a predator Cupcakes : Oh no

[@SomeRandomVergilFanboy]

People are saying that any faction could easily wipe out a Xenomorph hive and all it would take it 1 Space Marine to kill a Xenomorph Queen, but you guys clearly don't understand how Xenomorphs work. They don't have a set power level, instead the power of a Xenomorph is determined by how powerful the host was. Whenever a Xenomorph hosts something in canon, they will adapt the hosts most important traits and make them better in every way, essentially meaning that a Xenomorph that comes from an Orc will automatically be at least 3 to 5 times the power of that Orc, and same goes if a Space Marine was to become a host. People are also saying that they are just a weaker version of Tyranids, but the thing is if just one Facehugger was to host a generic Tyranid then the resulting Xenomorph type would be able to kill 5 Tyranids by itself before being taken down, and that's even if it was just a Drone and not even a more powerful variant. The Xenomorphs don't only just become far stronger mutant versions of the host, they also take some of its traits, meaning that if a Xenomorph hosted a Tyranid then it would become immune to Tyranid spores just like the Tyranids are. Another thing is that Facehuggers are very stealthy, so if a Royal Facehugger was to sneak in and host someone very powerful like the Emperor and make a Emperor Xenomorph Queen, then that alien alone would be incredibly difficult to kill and they would literally have to nuke the thing.

[@chaimafaghet7343]

Maybe you don't know but entire planets being scorched down to the bedrock from orbit and rendered permanently uninhabitable is a regular, routine protocol in 40K designed to counter possessed space wizards sucking the planet into Space Hell, or bigger, nastier Giger Aliens calling in giant living spaceships to eat the planet and every other planet they encounter on the way there. The BEST case scenario for the Aliens is they get nuked from orbit, that at least means they did well enough to infest one entire planet. They're probably just going to be viewed as another variety of Space Rat you don't want on your ship.

[@ajente2o254]

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