How will the Russia Ukraine conflict end? | Professor Lawrence Freedman

"It's still a very formidable army, but it's hasn't been deployed very effectively... they've underestimated the scale of resistance they would face."
Jenny Kleeman and Luke Jones talk to war studies professor Sir Lawrence Freedman on Russian army tactics and potential invasion outcomes.
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[@merylburke9137]

The professor gives me hope. Thank you so much for posting this interview.

[@trevorcrook5753]

Accept the professor hasn’t a clue what’s going on

[@stogies3]

@@trevorcrook5753 “Accept”?

[@stogies3]

I think he suggested that there is no good outcome of this, because Putin manuevered himself into a corner from which he can not come out without being either humiliated or going totally crazy on the ukrainians,the alternative to that would be total capitulation, ie.the current Ukrainian government going into exile and the russians installing a new puppet regime,for which currently there is zero chance. So i think you are reading too much into his opinion.

[@gus892]

Nato is made up of people who hate or distrust Russia. Russia is destroying itself.

[@stogies3]

@@gus892 Nevertheless Russia is doing an excellent job at creating it’s own image.

[@yetidodger6650]

The Russian armies heart isn't in it. They don't want to invade the homeland of their relatives.

[@CRUASSANFAN]

They don't invade anything, they are liberating it.

[@wendyboardman6107]

@@CRUASSANFAN liberating by murdering civilians for Putin's type of freedom and with young soldiers who think they are on exercises being used as Canon fodder? That can't be justified on any level can it?

[@yetidodger6650]

@@CRUASSANFAN strange that the people they're liberating don't want liberating.

[@chesshooligan1282]

@@yetidodger6650 I know little about Ukraine, but you know even less. Either that or you're being disingenuous.

[@devon896]

@@CRUASSANFAN By murdering innocent civilian's? What planet do you live on!

[@richard9480]

Fascinating interview.

[@yogicfire]

The main problem for the Russians as the professor mentions is that you have a huge country with 40 million people. Even if Kiev falls (which is uncertain) you have a very large insurgency to deal with. Weapons are flowing into Ukraine and many are very sophisticated. Some of the Russian weapons like the T-72 tanks are from the Soviet era of the 70s.

[@robmanson2056]

From 1972 in fact. 🤣

[@diannanagelvoortsaltz469]

Reason enough that all countries should have the American 2nd amendment

[@azmodanpc]

Many of the Russian troops are young conscripts that have little training, almost no battle experience, and have friends and sometimes parents in Ukraine. Motivation and morale seems very low. They have numbers but the equipment is not state of the art since they did not expect such stiff resistance. Putin saw the bungling of the US retreat from Afghanistan and made the assumption he could face the same outcome.

[@panchopuskas1]

@@diannanagelvoortsaltz469 ......nonsense......Ukraine doesn't have 2nd A but now everybody has a weapon because there's a war. Every country except one has the same understanding and it works perfectly.

[@noway5347]

@@diannanagelvoortsaltz469 total nonsense..no other sane countries want or need the silly 2nd amendment...

[@harveysmith100]

A lot of the Russian troops were told they were going on exercise. Now they find themselves fighting against a people who are their cousins, many of them are of Russian decent and speak Russian as their first language. Their moral will be low because of these reasons. The Ukrainians have lot's of reasons not to wish to be part of some "Greater Russia," there are few families in Ukraine that don't have relatives who died because of the Soviets. Thousands died in one famine alone. You may defeat a nations army but when all the people are also armed and they are defending the street they live on, you are in one heap of trouble. The Ukrainians are a tough people, just look at all the boxer that have come from just that one country. I have a feeling this isn't going to end as well as Putin expects.

[@markcrisp07]

But as the war goes on and they lose commrads..they'll row hatred for the other side.

[@harveysmith100]

@@markcrisp07 That is true. Or possible they will blame their own government for putting them in that position

[@harveysmith100]

@@jacktravers5049 Thank you for that Jack. That tells you all you need to know about how the Ukrainians must feel about Russia.

[@panchopuskas1]

To be honest EVERYBODY has lots of reasons not to wish to be part of some "Greater Russia" or any other empire for that matter, not just the Ukrainians......

[@harveysmith100]

@@panchopuskas1 You are correct Tom, I was just referring to the context of the subject and the history of the Ukrainian people.

[@whiskeytango9769]

The old adage, "No plan survives contact with the enemy" seems rather apropos here.

[@mikev4621]

'Shock and Awe ' went ok

[@JamesC785]

Jenny Kleeman's closing remark sums it up. 👏👏👏

[@jerryrichardson2799]

Lying to your troops, huge mistake. Sometimes the line between dishonesty and stupidity is pretty thin.

[@kevindunne5753]

The professor is giving great hope for the Ukrainian people and forces, I am optimistic that Ukraine will emerge possibly battered and bruised but free from Russian troops, there are a lot of people that seem to pour doubt that the Ukrainian forces will win it's a war and war is brutal if the Ukrainian forces can send the Russian military back to Putin in ruins,( the Russian economy is on the verge of collapse because of Putin, and most of the world is supporting Ukraine, this is NATO's WMD heavy sanctions against Putin and those who are involved with him, sooner or later the people of Russia will rise up despite the crackdowns on protesting,

[@alejandroluisful]

Normally, strategics mistakes cant be resolved by operacional o tactical measures.

[@bigblue6917]

Considering the poor state of the Russian economy is part of the problem that Russia has not been able to train up their troops to a high enough degree to fight this war.

[@markcrisp07]

Yeah...it doesn't look as good as I thought it was. Looks a bit old.

[@Realist-sh3dg]

Russia remains financially stable thanks to its international reserves and low level of debt, the Finance Ministry in Moscow said in a statement Saturday, responding to announcements by the ratings companies.2 days ago

[@bigblue6917]

@Josef James interesting that you have to resort to abuse. Says a lot about you that you cannot express yourself without it. Obviously your a prime example of the Dunning-Kruger effect.

[@bigblue6917]

@@Realist-sh3dg Russia has a population 2.5 times that of France but its economy is less then that of Italy. It relies on gas and oil exports but needs western companies to build the processing plant. Orders for its military jets are being cancelled because they are so out of date. And I wonder why you think Moscow is telling the truth

[@alfredttarski4521]

There is no need to train them to any high degree. Russia has plenty of cannon fodder to replace them.

[@kathystewart8871]

His troops are stuck in the mud. Prayers for peace.

[@bell1095]

Amazing host lady

[@Robert-uo6qi]

Stay Strong Ukraine!!!

[@RegularJoe419]

That’s what happens when a gangster thinks he can run this type of operation

[@barryc1968]

You cannot form a strategy based on lies. Thankyou.

[@brianpreval5602]

80% conscripts - they are never any good because they don't want to be there!

[@michellebrown4903]

Russian memory seems to be very short. They seem to have forgotten when they pushed armoured columns into Grozny , The young ,poorly trained Russian troops were decimated. And here they seem on the cusp of making the same mistake again.

[@LyutoCo]

??? They've lost more than 1200 land vehicles of all types, several dozen helicopters and SU type fighters, several ships and particularly noteworthy was the downing of 2 large paratrooper planes carrying 300-400 troops (at the same time). They've lost 96 Tanks in a single battle. If you're going to make analytical statements at least get a reference point...

[@rogerwilco2]

The rulers do not care. It is the only way they know how to fight. And if things don't go their way, they will turn to terror tactics, like they did in Grozny, Aleppo and Afghanistan.

[@chongxina8288]

@@LyutoCo It’s hard to trust anyone’s numbers right now. But the Russians have sure taken some losses. More than they’ll admit to. It’s a total clusterfuk.

[@bobmorane2082]

The first time they learned after and the 2nd time they bomb it to ground

[@brickhunter9537]

Russia always send in canon fodder first.

[@blackknight3496]

Putin will lose whatever happens here! A sad end for someone who could have been a great leader of a great country! Human nature! Money! Power! And corruption will always end badly for anyone

[@haroonmarikar]

A spy who was in a organisation which spied on his people should get the end he deserves . lynched by russians . he will be when economy crashes

[@karadiberlino]

@@haroonmarikar 💯💯💯

[@rullangaar]

@@haroonmarikar I agree with your sentiment, however it seems the Russians love their despots. Weird.

[@haroonmarikar]

@@rullangaar it comes in cycles there , I mean when economic crisis occurs they turn against the rulers . It happened many times in Romanovs time . Also communism which was the biggest killer of their own people finally went away . But yes they have some sort of affinity to people who keep them under a tyrannic rule . Some group psychology thing

[@videopyc]

@@rullangaar Russians are brainwashed by Putin regime propaganda, so they dont know better. People who can always leave Russia and to start a new life in countries where they are free and happy,

[@Barryferg100]

The conflict (sorry been away since 2014) does it have anything to do with the fight for freedom?

[@glassandmetal2456]

Yes I could

[@patricelauverjon3177]

There is a virtual trend towards Humanism and a technical trend towards destruction!

[@wobblechopps2010]

Russia constantly escalates, if you do this, if you do that it will be WW3 . Sets up nuclear weapons on Poland's border. He's increased his demands wanting Poland and Romania out of NATO , threatened Sweden . I'd love peace but he has no compromise! He only understands aggression and I want I get . Time to push back !

[@trevorcrook5753]

Russia is not escalating anything . They are tip toeing into Ukraine . Pushing back will gives us escalation of a nuclear kind . Nato will do nothing I assure you

[@wobblechopps2010]

@@trevorcrook5753 tip toeing ? Are you literally serious right now ? They have logistics problems, spread to thin and are regrouping . But they are most definitely escalating ! Went from shelling anti air and military targets To destroying civilian buildings! Their demands also escalated too ! They are in response to stiff sanctions and Ukraine not rolling over . Oh and that Russia are using old Soviet tanks, inexperienced soldiers and Ukraine is putting up a better fight than predicted. So yes.. they are! Oh and Belarus .....

[@trevorcrook5753]

@@wobblechopps2010 They have not used their airforce heavy weapons and are wary of civilian casualties . That is top toeing You seem to know what the Russian plans are more than they do . You must Take into account that what you are hearing from the Media isn’t true If civilian buildings are being destroyed it’s not by the Russians . How would they benefit ? They are winning of course they demand more . But Their demands are pretty basic Demilitarising the Ukraine . Recognition of the Donbass region . And no joining Nato This could have all been avoided if Ukraine had declared themselves neutral and stopped attacking the Donbass

[@wobblechopps2010]

@@trevorcrook5753 it isn't the media getting it from and I didn't say they were escalating full scale ! And yes they have held back but also had coordination in the air attacks . This has nothing to do with taking out civilians! This is taking out military air defence which to a degree has failed . So yes they have escalated. I don't watch western media .

[@trevorcrook5753]

@@wobblechopps2010 I saw a Ukraine drone destroying a column of Russian tanks . Turns out the footage was from Syria’s several years ago . We are being fed BS. Be aware of that next time you hear about Russian casualties and how bad things are going for them

[@patrickdoyle9369]

Can someone tell him to sit bloody still he's making me feel like i am on a ship, i feel so dizzy now.

[@JO-mg6xc]

It is in the United States and Europe best interest to degrade the Russian army in Ukraine. You need to give Ukraine modern fighter planes and retired pilots flying under the Ukrainian flag. This was done in the second world war helping China against Japan with the famous flying Tigers

[@MrJonnyl123]

It’s not in the best interest of Ukraine tho. Ukraine will be a pile of rubble by the end of it. They need a peace agreeement probably ending with partition of the country

[@honved1]

@@MrJonnyl123 how is losing half their country in their best interest?

[@SL_eWorld]

?

[@SL_eWorld]

@@mariotubegr so does The USA, England, France, India, Pakistan, China, Israel should I keep going? Who is the winner here

[@bi1iruben]

@@honved1 West arming Ukraine when in reality can not win against larger forces of Ruissia will just lead to Russia using their usual approach - weak(ish) ground forces and so shell & bomb population into submission (Chechnia, Georgia, Syria).

[@drdavidfoo6632]

I think they will fight to a standstill...

[@goodbarbenie5477]

The Greatest Victory... Requires No Battle...Lao Tzu...

[@AncoraImparoPiper]

But requires a lot of wisdom and intelligence.

[@casparnigell5510]

So this is 2022 and so many people including INNOCENT men, women and children will die because of one man's ego? Sad. Very sad. Can someone in Russia please save us from this catastrophe?

[@susannamarker2582]

The Ukraine's neutrality was fine until the EU and NATO decided to use the Ukraine as a battering ram to anger Russia. The Ukraine should never join the EU or NATO.

[@casparnigell5510]

@@susannamarker2582 why is Russia angered? Russia is not a baby

[@susannamarker2582]

@@casparnigell5510 Don't you read the papers ?

[@JediJide2]

@Susanna Marker You sound unhinged; Ukraine is an independent state and can join any groups it wants to. Russia will come out of this with a massive bloody nose. Watch this space.

[@karadiberlino]

@@susannamarker2582 You read the wrong papers. Do some actual RESEARCH! 🤓 You sound like a Trumpist... 🤡

[@johnvine5731]

Well, that could have gone on longer, and they could have got more information from the professor to enlighten us further. I guess they had a 'radio' point to make!

[@williehenton8154]

Awesome

[@simontemplate]

Super calm commentary - thank you Professor Freedman!

[@gogrape9716]

This is the guy who said russia would not invade a month ago just before the invasion.

[@ltyrell405]

As with the Irish troubles, there was a lot of guerilla warfare in urban situations, and very hard for the British Army to get control of, and it went on and on.

[@captainloaf4767]

Britian could of won a lot faster had they used there Air Force and navy to just obliterate Ireland but they didn’t Russia arnt the same and they are doing that it’s only a matter of time but I pray for them the ukraines have been and are very brave

[@jackreacher5667]

My friend served in Northern Ireland and he told me Army intelligence knew every Paramilitary from both sides, and if they had been allowed to take them out, the "troubles would of been over in a day. Ps the war in Ireland was not about "Guerilla Warfare", just "Terrorist attacks", to even contemplate the Paramilitaries as soldiers is wrong, for the most part they were thugs and murders.

[@ltyrell405]

I never said they were soldiers, I said guerilla warfare which includes anyone, including paramilitaries and civilians.

[@jackreacher5667]

@@ltyrell405 I know you didn't, but so what, to be honest it was a throw away remark, but there are many people (on both sides ) in the North who see them as soldiers,(as they do them selves) in some instances. In reply to your comment perhaps if the military had removed the Para military's and had a zero tolerance the troubles might of been over a lot sooner. Also unless you wear a official uniform/ or belong to a recognised combatant unit, you can tried and shot as per the rules of war.

[@patrickmccutcheon9361]

The contexts are different. In NI the troubles started when the nationalist community wanted an end to discrimination and got beaten up by the police when demonstrating. The army was sent in to keep peace and to maintain the status quo. This meant they were not equidistant from the two sides. In the Ukraine, there is a Russian concern that the Ukraine was moving out of the Russian sphere of influence and that the Russian minority in Eastern Ukraine was against this. Here lies the contrast. Russia does not want Ukraine to be promesso independent. The UK, well England mainly as the UK as such includes NI, would happily be shot of NI.

[@brendanbehan2289]

Another Afghanistan for Russia.

[@dolphin069]

Mountains of body bags.

[@kimchi2780]

Its obvious Putin's cancer or Parkinson's rumors are true because he's out of his mind. The Russian economy was in shambles before this war started and the Russian army is not this force it used to be.

[@austinmerrigan3404]

Make no mistake russia will take ukraine and it aint going to be no afghanistan its on putins doorstep

[@austinmerrigan3404]

Make no mistake russia will take ukraine and it aint going to be no afghanistan its on putins doorstep

[@dolphin069]

@@austinmerrigan3404 Dude. We in Europe are going to make sure it’s grand dads last stand.

[@thegreenmanofnorwich]

He interviewed me when I applied for a politics and war studies degree at KCL. Really sharp mind, incredibly analytical, but didn't jump down my throat the way that some interviewers do. While I went elsewhere in the end, I did read one of his books and it was ever so good. He seems to be one of the best people to ask about this sort of thing.

[@EvoraGT430]

Yet some YT commenters are convinced they know more.....

[@jonathanwardle2052]

Thought you meant Putin for a second 🤷🏽‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️😬😂

[@MrKips1]

Fetching in more Russian troops will be that much more difficult due to the amount of wrecked equipment now blocking the routes into the cities. Backup will not want to loiter, clearing the way, making themselves easy targets.

[@claudiomarangone614]

The new equipment that is said to be delivered to Ukraine- With all of the logistical issues within the country now, how can the new arms be delivered to the military that needs it in the locations they need it and how can they be trained in the midst of all this? Too little too late?

[@sandybird5785]

Where there is a will there is a way.

[@sandybird5785]

Never to late.

[@fongy200]

Hopefully not in a Mushroom cloud.

[@andygordon3133]

My X-wife & 10 year old son are in Sumy Ukraine & are living in a public bomb shelter as tgeir apartment building was bombed. My X-wife is ethnic russian & russian is her native language . Sumy is in control of the russian military & has been for the last few days. Please stop this war!

[@jmyers9853]

it will never end,memories last after thet russians leave.

[@susannamarker2582]

The Ukraine should be a neutral buffer state, like it was before the EU and NATO decided to use the Ukraine as a battering ram to anger Russia. The Ukraine should not join the EU or NATO. Zelensky is acting too hastily.

[@Scoopster]

The buffer is another ruse by Putin. He wants the gas in the Black Sea with Putin’s EEZ, he also doesn’t believe UKraine is a real state and is an imperialist who wants to restore former Russian glory with old empire. The gas fields in Ukraine’s EEZ mean Ukraine could become the sole petrochemical state rival and break Putin’s monopoly supply with Europe. NATO is a defence pact they are not a threat unless you invade one of the NATO states. The threat is democracy, this is a real threat for a dictatorship. No dictator can break the will of free minded people. He has no right to dictate other countries policies. This is a war of freedom and the rule of law against a dog eat dog world.

[@ccarter1378]

what did she cut him off at the end and not let him finish his point

[@juleshorse9056]

The main problem, as the questioner asks, is that Putin will never adopt a reconciliation strategy that sees him losing face. Having dealt with the Russian, never underestimate the issue of face and how it drives actions.

[@user-rg1dp9eh8b]

Putin wants to control all the access to the Black Sea. If Ukraine is forced to surrender and it turns into a guerilla war the neighbouring states will be drawn in. We are all assuming the end of this war is the end of the problem. The end of Putin is the only real end to the problem. He’s a fascist,

[@patriciapalmer1377]

3 weeks later, the Ukranians are still fighting and Kiev hasn't been taken, God bless them.💪

[@pkjkok9216]

🙏

[@kofferfischii]

A movement as in Carl Schmitt. Friends and enemies. Without any clue.

[@johnnyfrisco5354]

Why is this being called a ‘conflict’?

[@robobrain10000]

invasions are indeed conflicts. So, not technically wrong.

[@johnnyfrisco5354]

Can’t find that one anywhere. If the unelected Russian had a soul, a conscience or compassion the only conflict would be with himself.

[@stuartsoll3254]

I think the UN should send in a massive amount of peace keeping forces.

[@sirrathersplendid4825]

The Russians would shoot them too. Only time the UN could deploy would be after an armistice.

[@Peter-un8no]

You mean like in Korea...LOL

[@j4v-cyberpunk-music]

Three options: 1. The Russians on official UN recognised territory of Ukraine get minority rights, their own nation or become part of Russia. 2. NATO Vs Russia anytime soon, but classic ware fare style. 3. Grid lock. Ukraine turns bad land. The Russian troops stand still, some forces will secure western boarders from the West unnoticed from the media and all in arms and Ukrainian Legionnaires have a feast creating a new level of Mercenaries operating for the highest price soon world wide after they tasted first blood and at some point Ukrainians get back control eventually. #cyberpunkcoltoure

[@WilkinsMichael]

All are possible but I think some version of 3 is the most likely. I was listening to a security expert recently. He said in a stable society you need about 2 security personnel (police) for every 1000 people to maintain order. In a high conflict situation, you need roughtly10x that so 20 per 1000 people. That means Russia would need about 900,000 troops to maintain control, undoable. Even half that would be impossible so eventually I think Ukraine will go back to the Ukrainians even if it is devastated first and/or some of the ethnically Russian areas are lost.

[@j4v-cyberpunk-music]

@@WilkinsMichael That was Putins official statement to secure the Russian minoritis and have a political change in the Capital City. Russia is no Sowjet anymore and the Stalinists left a long time ago. While over here we still have not cleaned out our closet, unfortunately. So, the Russians got rid of their tyranns of all the same by force, but here the same form accumulating capitalism is still in place that is unfair to humans und harmful to the globe. How many bossed did you have that got better pay based on some degree, but were factually useless?

[@barbaraaimson2100]

If its putins war let him go fight it

[@joevandijk2284]

FREEDMAN sounds like a arm chair expert who has mastered the obvious.

[@creative-renaissance]

I'm not convinced about this notion that Russia's progress has stalled. They have moved to the outskirts of Kyiv in 2 to 3 days, Putin could be delaying the final push into the city to secure his supply lines and get more troops into place. Thats what I would do, but then I'm no expert.

[@dieterhoffmann6449]

@Sauce der gute Herr Professor ist ein totaler Vollidiot, ein englischer college professor Gockel... jeder weiß es und die Ukrainer wissen es wahrscheinlich am allerbesten, dass die Orangene Revolution ein Putsch der USA war. Die Ukrainer haben das hingenommen, weil sie die Hoffnung hatten als Teil der westlichen Wertegemeinschaft Wohlstand zu erringen. Mittlerweile wird im letzten Ukrainer klar geworden sein, dass sie für die USA den Frontstaat gegen Russland spielen sollen. Ich glaube die wenigsten Ukrainer die einigermaßen klar in der Birne sind, haben da Bock drauf. Ich glaube die meisten haben mittlerweile von den USA die Schnauze voll.

[@creative-renaissance]

@Sauce My comment is not based on intuition but on historical facts and the so called "experts" are often wrong. I think you are misunderstanding my point. The Ukrainian forces are obviously doing an incredible job, but the western media is portraying the Russian army as being incompetent. This is very dangerous. Doing so, they may be creating a false sense of security, which could be catastrophic for the Ukrainian people.

[@Chipchap-xu6pk]

I suspect experts are wrong less often than random social media commenters. They also have a habit of answering with nuance rather than absolutes.

[@brendanbeirne2]

@@dieterhoffmann6449 Dies ist der beste Kommentar, den ich auf KZbin zu dieser ganzen Situation gesehen habe. "Der Professor und die Nachrichtensprecherin sind beide Idioten. Einige von uns in den Vereinigten Staaten können sehen, was vor sich geht. Leider sieht unsere Regierung das nicht.

[@davedaniels8211]

@@dieterhoffmann6449 actually Ukrainians are leaving EU to fight. Germany finally meeting its 2% NATO commitments. NATO and EU United.

[@davidwoo2590]

Could Putin lose Belarus if this goes badly enough for Russian military forces?

[@sirrathersplendid4825]

There are reports of senior Belarusian officers resigning and lower ranks refusing to fight. But Lukashenko remains Putin’s puppet for the time being even though most of his own people hate him.

[@irynasakharchuk7044]

''do you believe supplying more and more weapons,intelligens,and treining,anti Russian propaganda to that serves to prolong this war more unnecessary loss of life on both sides in the best interest of Ukrainian people?''

[@edward9862]

When the troops stop entering the other country. Duh.

[@stgeorgeist]

Armies need supplies fuel food water? Time wastes uses resources equipment

[@dwightparkman5475]

He is giving the people a chance to leave they need to listen and go because that’s there only real safe future. He is waiting from them.

[@elephantwanderer6576]

Your a fool!!!

[@emm_arr]

I think the Chinese now have a better idea about how well Russia would be able to defend its eastern borders and Siberian petrochemical resources.

[@paul1979uk2000]

Yeah, I'm actually surprised by the Russian military, it seems weaker than many of us expected it to be and I know Russia is holding back but the amount of problems they are having is quite shocking, the west and I suspect China are watching Russia's military capabilities here, probably more so China because they likely see an opening to take advantage of Russia in the long run because the sanction the west are putting on Russia are doing a lot of damage, that could push Russia under the thumb of China which I doubt the Russia government or people want that but Russia is being weakened a lot here.

[@wypkewypkema6306]

You say Russia has lost the initiative, I don’t think so look at history

[@yogicfire]

If you want to talk about an end game I have read that in Russia they are talking about splitting Ukraine up into three parts. A little Russia, a white Russia and whatever else they call the last part. You can perhaps see that the eastern part will include the expanded new Russian republics. Something in the centre including Kyiv perhaps. Western part of Ukraine next to NATO borders. I have no idea if this is true but you can see how something like this may come into being.

[@dericofdorking]

Belarus president gave the plan away with his giant map on TV 😆

[@SteffiReitsch]

The former Ukraine will be divided up into several Russian provinces.

[@petersummers5728]

The war will end

[@bigdaddyrat7854]

When Putin threatens nuclear war, I can't help thinking that the running paper tiger is chasing his own tail.

[@leeengelsman1855]

We need to tell Putin 5hat he is bluffing with his threat to use nuclear option since this would mean the end of all life on earth.

[@boykovasilev8834]

no Putin, no problem 😎

[@trevorcrook5753]

No Putin no Russia

[@kristine8338]

In peace ☮️.

[@ralphdavis9670]

With a little help from their friends, Viet Nam beat a very powerful country.

[@preciouspups4116]

After all this ends hopefully very soon.would nato want the Ukrainian country in nato

[@0bzen22]

Split Ukraine in two, grab nice chunks, consolidate, and then negotiate. In spring, it's gonna really kick off.

[@charlesscottkelly]

I predict the USA weapons suppliers will get rich . Russia can not lose this.

[@mekonking]

The first days were a disaster for the Russians, but the Russians have adapted and changed their mistakes. If you look at what's going on in Bahkmut you will see my point. I feel sorry for the Ukrainians having lost so many men totally out gunned and chewed up. Poor leadership across the board, this should never have happened.

[@Savetheplanet802]

Not possible to tell Putin that he won but need to leave Ukraine with his troops.just like trump let him think he won.

[@elizabethhabib7327]

Stop calling it a conflict. It is a war period. It was a conflict before the invasion, it turned into a war when Russian army took the first tank over Ukraine borders.

[@elizabethhabib7327]

@Junior when did that happen? My friends who lived in Donetsk didn't say anything about aggressors until the Z tanks showed up and started shooting and booming? That was when they left.

[@barriewise211]

Evil never wins

[@ivanostry3359]

We can only wish.

[@richarddixon4474]

How it ends, either one side withdraws or the other side capitulates - really these guys get paid for saying this stuff!!

[@jeffdady864]

When ever the war ends Russia must pay full reparations down to the last brick and road repair, l think we should start by taking all Putin's money and yachts and houses to help pay for what he has done.

[@mexicantextiles6093]

Just a guess - once Kiev falls the Russians will fall back to the east bank on the Dnieper River and occupy that region.

[@sirrathersplendid4825]

So far though haven’t advanced as far as the Dniepr in the centre of the country! But yes, that would be the logical halt line. Also has the advantage of being the historical dividing line between Russian-speaking and Ukrainian-speaking halves of the country.

[@matthewmallan1164]

I think it should end with a chorus of Agadoo?

[@rolfewert6154]

I think his view is quite weak. Ceasefire never final. The real question is: will Ukraine belong to Russia or will it go on independent from Russia.

[@lillyshi2705]

Go neutral is the best. No Russia and no NATO. So, the world can have peace. They get on with work, no increase in inflation. Combat COVID

[@akht5143]

Neutral would help everyone but looks like its not going to end well for any one, sad times for everyone people who think one side or the other will win are delusional

[@10Tabris01]

There is no way Russia is going to hold on to Ukraine, in any shape whatsoever, permanently without a significant investment of resources and men.

[@lillyshi2705]

After through, Ukraine belonging to Russia. Ukrainian need to understand Russia is their parents. They are their grow up son. Been given / gifted properties (land) by their parents. Be grateful and understanding that their parents still got younger children/ siblings to look after

[@10Tabris01]

@@lillyshi2705 They don't seem to want to be Russian though

[@MrAndrew941]

It's time to spend 3% GDP on Britain's forces, Russia is only going to get more aggressive towards the west and they aren't that far away from us, they already have tried getting near UK strategically sensitive bases with their naval vessels.

[@lindakoester8799]

Thank You Lord for all of our blessings. Thank You for sacrificing Your life that all believers may live eternally with You in heaven. Lord of David who champions those in need please be with the people of Ukraine as they face their Goliath, President Putin and his Russian army. The peaceful people of Ukraine need a miracle only You can bring. Just as David slew Goliath, if it be Your will, let the people of Ukraine against all odds champion Putin and Russia and continue their peaceful life as a free nation. Please cause Putin to pause and realize a way to live peacefully with the proud people of Ukraine. I pray for a peaceful resolve that meet the needs of both countries, and save the lives of Ukrainian citizens and Russian soldiers. Lord, You caused the walls of Jericho to fall, You freed the Israelites from their Egyptian captors and if it is Your will You can free Ukraine from their tormentors. Please protect Ukrainian people and provide for them in their time of need. Amen 🙏

[@rogerhearn5243]

Just put your hands together and recite from the bible. Talk to yourself and do nothing because it makes you feel warm and fuzzy.

[@alfredttarski4521]

Please see a shrink. 🙏

[@paulcroxton6047]

More NONSENSE from someone who believes in a RECYCLED storybook.....

[@jackdaniels3573]

Well depending how you see it. Russia could be David as it is only one nation compared to Ñato that could be Goliath since it is many nations. So you are definately wrong.

[@gavinmc5285]

the proud mr. vladimirovich entered the ukraine stiffly. after subsequently realising that the consent at home and abroad was not instantly forthcoming he sought tealeaves to hide the flacid rejection that all who observed could see.

[@wallyp_l_z6329]

It's not going to end their's just to much profit. Or hopefully until enough people on both sides are sanctioned to appease these psychopaths. It's nothing personal It's just good bloodlust business.

[@charlottegude4204]

As long as the war doesn't mutate into a Vietnam. Can Russian people tolerate their son,s dying. That could cause mass riots in Russia.

[@starseed462]

He’s got that Cheryl dictator now the man eater!

[@adamday2067]

Ceasefire ??? Not a chance.

[@tominnis8353]

This is only the first wave: young lads; 'canon fodder'. The next wave will be very much more formidable.

[@janetblanc7658]

It's heartbreaking to think of so many young lives on both sides being lost senselessy.

[@geraldperyman6535]

Tom,the next wave probably more informed.Woodwork/experts.

[@tominnis8353]

They haven't a chance against such might. I certainly admire their tenacity though . . . .

[@kathystewart8871]

Pray for more mud.

[@brendanbeirne2]

I never see an ounce of evidence for the idea that "they've underestimated the scale of resistance they would face" -- the amount of conjecture masquerading as expertise here is breathtaking.

[@olic7266]

Rush B

[@dannyc.jewell8788]

This guy know's a little , not a lot , not far fron click bait .

[@EvoraGT430]

Sir Lawrence David Freedman, KCMG, CBE, PC, FBA (born 7 December 1948) is Emeritus Professor of War Studies at King's College London.[1] He has been described as the "dean of British strategic studies"[2] and was a member of the Iraq Inquiry.[3]

[@michaelh.sanders2388]

Putin Delenda Est

[@perimetrfilms]

I don't think he knows very much.

[@jimrogers5774]

It may end, (and hopefully) with a brake down, or a shift in policies of Russian security systems and its people, after all they too are Russians with families and will suffer, in the long run, (they are not daft)! ànd that has happened in the past in the Kermlin. In time this may happen.(hopefully sooner then later) After all you have Surbian people fighting Surbian people, and brother fighting brother that dos end well! (YOU CAN DEFEAT YOUR ENAMY WITH POWER AND STRENGTH BUT YOU WILL NEVER DEFEAT ITS PEOPLE, You will be just holding a viper in your hands saying you have won, till it bits you back! He should have read the Toest book The art of war, still studied today). It also states that the only winners in wars are those that do not fight in them, the Chinese know that and use it, by letting other fight them for them. The best thing the West can do is to give Russia or Putin what they call a goldern bridge, that is means of getting out of this mess with out losing face.

[@williamthompson7829]

Anybody who thinks the Ukraine is gonna repel a Russian invasion is very very naive. Putin is holding off hoping Ukraine leadership will capitulate. If they dont capitulate, that 40 mile long tank convoy makes its move on Kiev.

[@MikeJones-su3cj]

Yes you're absolutely right. Putin is indeed holding off and Russian military is busy setting up command and logistical support areas outside the major Ukraine cities. People forget the massive Russian offensives of WW2 that obliterated the Germans from 1943 onward.

[@WilkinsMichael]

America is stronger than Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan but they had to leave all those countries. Russia will crush the conventional Ukrainian armed forces unless there is significant outside help but can the Russians hold a huge country with a hostile population, supported by the outside world? I doubt it.

[@OldHeathen1963]

@@WilkinsMichael I agree.

[@drunio1504]

Russian troops are too young & inexperienced to be Putin cannon fodder. Ukraine army has modern weapons,, great spirit and ability. David defeated Goliath.

[@Evermoregreen23451]

Hahaha the size of France not easy to occupy. That’s exactly what happened to France in the Second World War when the cowards capitulated. Ukraine is not France.

[@herbayum76]

Where were in june 1940 Herr Wiestort, and where were you in May 1945 as Germany surrendered so cowardly? Arent somewhat of a fool...

[@rudyxrudy]

RIOTS AROUND THE WORLD???????

[@icetroll734]

Radio? Ah, um, ah, um um ah..it it, when when, ah, um.... That isn't how to talk, is it

[@fredmidtgaard5487]

Almost hilarious how wrong they are. It is ok we all were wrong.

[@keithmarshall7084]

it can only end in one way its in the book or future he wont think twice of pressing the big button or give orders to but will they listen to the order

[@johnhewlett525]

This will not happen

[@johnrogan9420]

Brilliant...not.

[@hhyling8483]

Ukraine will "win"this war

[@kimchi2780]

Even if Russia wins this war now it will lose in the long run. Russia will be shut out from the rest of the world.

[@descartesdonkey4291]

Yes Moscow will fall to the Waffe. Ss

[@edwardhannahsamuel730]

Putin isn't going to stop at Ukraine