How will the UK solve the Windrush controversy? | Inside Story

They are called the "Windrush generation". That is a refefence to the ship, the Empire Windrush, that carried the first wave of immigrants from the West Indies to Britain in 1948.
Many arrvied as children on their parents' passports - and have lived in the UK for over 70 years, paying taxes and insurance, but never formally becoming British Citizens.
Now, as the government tightens its immigration rules, those without the proper documents are being denied services and could even face deportation.
Some are calling it 'cruel and inhumane' treatment.
The government has apologised and it's promsing an investigation. But will that be enough?
Presenter: Peter Dobbie
Guests
Sally Daghlian - CEO of Praxis, an organisation that provides assistance to people affected by the Windrush controversy.
Clive Foster - member of the Nottingham Citizens Group.
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[@livelife5947]

Every time the media invite an Asian to speak on this they change the subject from Windrush to immigrants in general. They’re two very different things, stop inviting them on if they can’t focus on the subject.

[@owwyhero9720]

Simple these Asians don't like blacks just racist folks.

[@henrywalker6194]

Windrush passengers weren't asian! They were Jamaican? So what did you say the subject was?

[@V21IC]

True. Those affected or are empathetic can understand & speak from experience. Others, who are mainly intellectuals and uninterested only theorize and speak from a position of hypothesis or utopia. Illegal alien is someone who visits a country and who is given a set time for to stay by the immigration department. When the time expires the visitor should leave or may apply for an extension of time from the immigration. With Winrush, the situation was different. It's like a slavery 'by invitation'! Visitors were invited however, they were not given a 'set' time to stay by the immigration department. They were providing patriotic service to the 'mother land'. As humans, they have family and will have family. Having these generations of children is right. Why wasn't documentation required back then? I heard that documents/records were destroyed. It's that simple to 'shred' responsibility! At birth, children do not choose their nationality, language nor religion. It all shows how shallow many politicians think. They think about their term in office and never the future. Parents cannot have children illegally since it can't be a crime to have children. Children are born wherever the mother may reside. If all these people are illegal why didn't deport them when they were 2 years old? If a child can't deport all by himself/herself then why should they them as adults? The British has once again robbed generations of their 'roots' and want to 'transplant' them.

[@Rambo-du6pu]

Nobody ever asked the English people

[@henrywalker6194]

British!

[@adetolaayodele7790]

Just like nobody ever asked Africans if they wanted colonisation

[@Yamaguchi2Chris]

Give them their TAX MONEY back

[@jeffreyfrancois3875]

Kriz Yamz yes but the dogs will never do it

[@mrman6267]

Give them their tax money and a plane ticket free of charge.

[@Jahcure1fan]

I heard they gave the Jamaican government 20,000 uk pounds per person it’s the Jamaica government keeping it for themselves when they should give it directly to the person

[@ellataylor6060]

And a bill for all the dole money, education, NHS, policing the crimes they commit. I know lots of people who would happily chip in to buys tickets

[@mikemcqween3155]

Mary D Antoine

[@lidiasoloman1042]

Jamaica & the Caribbean islands need to really join the African Union, like Haiti. Africa is booming in economy & these Island should join this process or will forever be victims. The Caribbean gov. Doesn't have enough pull globally. I'm sure they wouldn't do this to Nigerian citizens.

[@georgeorwell3532]

Haiti tried application rejected.

[@lidiasoloman1042]

Zagga Zou I believe only 50% ofAU is funded by African countries. Ethiopia, SA & Nigeria have said it will be fully funded in 10 yrs. basically the west still involved in the AU. I believe in the future it will connect with Haiti. And Cuba, which reached out to Africa & has no protection. No one want AU to have Caribbean countries as members, bc that will wake up 100million black Brazilians living in military state in one of the richest countries. So if not this year, in the future Haiti will apply again. Haiti is always a symbol in change, the west don't want

[@princessCaribou1]

Lediya Soloman Theyve been deporting Nigerians too. Probably not the older generation but definitely the ones recently coming over and applying for indefinite leave to remain. Within 48 hours theyre returned post haste without any explanation. The government just takes their fees and returns them. It's a good money making scheme they have going on.

[@cheddarman2634]

I believe Caribbean nations should forget about Africa and focus on closer ties with the USA, Canada and other nations in the Americas. Culturally we have more in common with that part of the world and if the true be said, the Americas are a far more stable part of the world than say West Africa, a part of the world that can at a moment's notice erupt into the most sickening forms of violence at the drop of a hat.

[@princessCaribou1]

no thanks I will try Africa, our distance from the continent is the reason we are in this mess. The Western world is too deceitful.

[@moosaiqbal7651]

Uk govt. is doing so wrong. these people have right to citizenship and stay in uk !

[@Yamaguchi2Chris]

Moosa Iqbal law is racist

[@polenit6390]

West Indies were invited to Britain 🇬🇧should be able to come and go as they wish this is madness common sense must win

[@Rambo-du6pu]

Pole Nit ..nobody ever asked the English people.

[@MsJay-cr1id]

Sultan - Input and/or permission isn't needed from the collective. That's the cost of imperialism.

[@henrywalker6194]

One question for you? invited? by whom?

[@o13sweetboy]

Carribean people boycott the Commonwealth games. Seriously.

[@FRESHDON.]

Daniel Bailey That goes for all sports on a national level!

[@best349]

haha the only people who told the Commonwealth where to go where the Irish but Carribean people are always at the commonwealth so stop talking rubbish

[@Melissiabeats]

yes clive!

[@mustia3540]

70 years and u couldn't get the money for a passport come on with this bullshit

[@surgeknight5725]

This is just a tip of an ice berg, besides the Windrush generation what about other victims from the rest of the commonwealth who have been detained and deported and are now stuck outside the UK. , is there a helpline number for them?

[@alistairgibbons9482]

Cough..cough we've been here before...

[@ronkodak3470]

Babylon be still

[@fitzgrant4404]

They not sorry...

[@johno4521]

Fun fact; Immigrants over this period weren't the only nationality affected. They weren't even the largest group affected. That description goes the the Canadians. Why does nobody ever mention them? Why don't we call it 'The Canadian Controversy, or 'the Canadian Scandal'?

[@jeffreyfrancois3875]

We from the Caribbean still getting a hard time to enter into England wow .... it's still happing a day like to day

[@tophealth429]

Haha I wouldn't be surprised. I come from a family who served for the British army and according to the history, people from my country and Brits have over 200 years of friendships. Still we were only allowed to be in this country from around 2008. Isn't that such a great friendship? You and me my friend, will always be seen differently no matter how nice we are. But that should not suggest that hate is the answer though. we just need to be more and more aware.

[@henrywalker6194]

It isn't England? It's called the UK!

[@lionokodell2065]

I'm completely onboard with the British Government's plan to move forward with deportation of Windrush passengers and their descendants ... but under one condition. That condition, repatriation of all English and their descendants from Canada and Australia. It stands to reason that laws should be consistent in their implementation.

[@pedrodeeg3893]

simple...contribute positively to a society, you get the privileges of society...its called meritocracy

[@carole8850]

Are you not listening? They have worked for over 40 years, so clearly they have contributed

[@petervankas1352]

GET THAT BOAT BACK ! WE HAVE MADE A MISTAKE

[@rogerdewhurst5750]

Rudd and May must resign or the Queen must sack them.

[@Unseentoyou1]

I can't find the words what this has done for the families of the windrush. Now you can see the riots that were happening for a lot of reasons. Anxiety and fear have been embedded throughout a lot of these generations and disabled proper flow of functions in families. I can speak from my experiences growing up and born in 1987. It's not been an honest journey for our people.

[@chrrylocks]

after all these emotional stories have been told, bottom line this is a civil rights issue your fight not kinship... it's citizenship!!! no law no citizenship no protection no state... smh emotions vs laws...

[@Greatnews4me2]

West Indians from middle America have been in the uk for more then 70 years time to treat them like citizens . England invited these people remember that.

[@henrywalker6194]

The government of the time invited them? note that!

[@AD-mh4zy]

Let me get this These people wanted compensation also take homes schooling employment and medical care from innocent population of Wales Scotland and England

[@davidedbrooke9324]

Easy, you have records, show them and all is fine.

[@zivkovicable]

Do you have your records from every decade since the 1960's? I certainly don't.

[@davidedbrooke9324]

zivkovicable yep if it’s important.

[@zivkovicable]

That's not what I asked. Do you have records that go back decades, ones that you maybe didn't realise were important at the time? Because It only became important in these cases when the rules were changed in 2012, If these records are so important, why did the government destroy all their landing records?.

[@alibabasaed3426]

The UK gov is 2 blame.When u live in the UK legally 4 5 yrs u can apply 4 British Passport.Why the older generation apply 4 it ? .

[@josephjohnson701]

What become of the "Enough is Enough" opposition to racism when it is the REAL racism of the Tories against British citisens of colour?

[@leightoncooke]

Why has my country become so inhuman?

[@samwright4420]

there was no malice towards the windrush generation, the UK govermernt is taking action to make things right

[@Ricanae205]

Thats why labour party should be in charge

[@georgeorwell3532]

An Englishmen amongst Arabs an Arab amongst Englishmen! An Englishmen amongst Jamaicans a Jamaican amongst Englishmen. Englishmen amongst amongst Indians an Indian amongst Englishmen!

[@mustia3540]

You should have applied for a passport long time ago. Is common sense

[@carlosemartinez1114]

THE COLONIES SHOULD ALL ASK FOR REPARATIOM

[@goldenoatie]

We owe these parasites nothing. It is those that should be on blended knee thanking for us for a life that through Wokism often gives them priority over the English taxpayers.

[@thomasreed49]

The jokers we were the victims having to leave near them. AgainAnother video says they were invited they were never invited they were never wanted by the government or by the general population So why and earth should you pay compensation to people you didn’t even want in the country is ridiculous. It’s true to say they force themselves upon us it was plain to them they were not wanted.

[@kristawalters9162]

So racist they target Caribbean n Asian his been British need contact with the news reporter....racist is big in U.K...

[@jayachelliah4067]

This whole Windrush comedy is misleading. Many West Indians KNEW that they need to get their papers together and there were TWO deadlines and the last one was in 1998 which I was involved with. Immigrants were asked to submit their papers which I did and got my Settled Status with absolutely no questions. I applied for Naturalisation a year later and became British. Asians and Pakistanis KNEW but how come the West Indians did not. There is a problem somewhere. Many Windrush Persons had a good level of education and their standard of English was good. ALAS, the West Indians could NOT been bothered. The Children of the Windrush had difficulties with the English School System and many had dropped out of the system. Children were not able to help. PROBLEM is the West Indians had a poor grasp of the Laws of Immigration. EVIDENCE is there . You have a NI Number and paying your contribution. Doctors can confirm your registration and appointments. Windrush Children have the evidence and West Indians are MISLEADING the British Public.The FIRST thing Asians did was to get their PAPERS Right from the earliest possible time. IF some West Indians did not do that.... we have this problem with the Immigration Laws since 2013. All RECORDS are online at the Home Office. I know this as a fact. when I was interviewed by the Home Office at Croydon. I will be surprised if the British Government is going to BEND or CHANGE the Immigration Laws just for the West Indians and others. West Indians will have to gather their evidence and put them IN ASAP. There is NO such thing as AMNESTY. I call on every one who is caught up with this scandal to get HELP and DO IT NOW.